GOP rep says he believes Epstein files were destroyed

[candycorn]

So........the premise of your worthless thread is based on an unfounded conspiracy theory. Imagine my surprise. Do better.

The longer it drags on, the more the blob looks like a diaper sniper.

 

[presonorek]

So you support abortion on demand for convenience…good to know.

How many times did republicans have the house, the senate, and the presidency from 1973 -2018? Republicans had plenty of time to address the abortion issue effectively but instead they gave speeches. That has nothing to do with my views on abortion, Nancy Pelosi’s view on abortion, your view on abortion, or Donald Trump’s position on abortion. Republicans had the capacity to address rhe issues many times but instead of doing something they held microphones. My views are 100% irrelevant and so are yours.

 

[j-mac]

How many times did republicans have the house, the senate, and the presidency from 1973 -2018? Republicans had plenty of time to address the abortion issue effectively but instead they gave speeches. That has nothing to do with my views on abortion, Nancy Pelosi’s view on abortion, your view on abortion, or Donald Trump’s position on abortion. Republicans had the capacity to address rhe issues many times but instead of doing something they held microphones. My views are 100% irrelevant and so are yours.

Well, Trump returned it to the states where it belongs. You want it to be an actual right? Start a push for an amendment. Because, until you convince 2/3 of Congress, and get 3/4 of the states to ratify, it’s right where it should be.

 

[AntonToo]

Well, Trump returned it to the states where it belongs.

Why the hell does does it "belong to the states"?

Do we have maybe people have different bodies in different states? Maybe murder is not murder in different states?

 

[j-mac]

Why the hell does does it "belong to the states"?

Do we have maybe people have different bodies in different states? Maybe murder is not murder in different states?

If it is not specified in the Constitution, either directly, or by amendment, then it is up to the individual states. Didn’t you learn this in school?

 

[AntonToo]

If it is not specified in the Constitution, either directly, or by amendment, then it is up to the individual states. Didn’t you learn this in school?

...? There are alot of federal laws not specified in constitution.

Constittution doesn't outlaw discrimination by race, sex or religion....Civil Rights Act of 1964 did that.

 

[Foxfyre]

Rep. Tim Burchett (R-Tenn.) said Wednesday he believes a client list associated withdisgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein once existed but was “destroyed” by the Biden administration.

“I think the files existed at one time,” Burchett said in an interview on NewsNation’s “On Balance” with host Leland Vittert. “I think they were destroyed in the previous administration.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5393787-tim-burchett-jeffrey-epstein-files-client-list/

Well, finally. We have a Republican ready to give progs their own medicine….

It’s a fair conclusion, Garland was probably on the list.

I probably already responded to this but can't remember if I did or not. But since ya'll resurrected the thread today I'll make sure I get my two cents in.

I've said all along the Biden people had the Epstein files for four long years and you KNOW they had been through all of them. Anything incriminating re any Democrat was almost certainly destroyed on their way out the door. Anything incriminating any Republican would have gleefully been leaked to the media long ago.

All the bruhaha about releasing the files now is a pure straw man to use to attack Trump.

As for the states, there are no federal laws dictating what is and is not 'murder' in any state or how any state must handle that issue. Until the gay marriage issue--that will likely be given back to the states--there were no federal laws defining marriage or what the laws must be regarding marriage.

The current SCOTUS has a majority who are keenly aware of judicial overreach and are doing their best to correct past court rulings that engaged in that and not commit it themselves.

I'm pretty sure they would rule that the President or those he designates have the authority to classify or declassify whatever documents they deem necessary. And that would include the Epstein files.

 

[j-mac]

...? There are alot of federal laws not specified in constitution.

Constittution doesn't outlaw discrimination by race, sex or religion....Civil Rights Act of 1964 did that.

And there are purists that would argue that the civil rights act was unconstitutional….Democrats did during its passage.

 

[Foxfyre]

And there are purists that would argue that the civil rights act was unconstitutional….Democrats did during its passage.

The act itself was not unconstitutional and it did some good. I approve it being illegal to discriminate against citizens on basis of race, color, religion, sex or country of origin.

But it also opened the door for the EEOC created by Kennedy's EO to become another 'woke' institution and bloated bureaucracy establishing ridiculous rules and regulations that employers had to follow. Standards were lowered so more minorities and women could be employed. Aggressive affirmative action became its own monstrosity doing irreparable harm to millions of minorities and women.

And as usual government turned a blind eye to the consequences, effect, results of its policies and initiatives. If the title or stated intent looked good, they didn't care how effective, efficient, or valuable it was or wasn't. The significant negative consequences were ignored.

And all those now clamoring to see the Epstein files--files they weren't at all interested in until Trump became President--are not only intellectually dishonest, but they honestly don't care who among the innocent it might hurt to release the files.

The worst of government is not caring about the consequences of what it does.

 

[presonorek]

Well, Trump returned it to the states where it belongs. You want it to be an actual right? Start a push for an amendment. Because, until you convince 2/3 of Congress, and get 3/4 of the states to ratify, it’s right where it should be.

My point isn't about what I want. My point is that Republicans had the power many times and did nothing on the abortion is. That's just facts.

Now if you want my opinion then I think Republicans strategically did nothing about it because being on the "losing" side of abortion was a very effective strategy for winning elections in the south and the midwest.

If you want to know my views on abortion, then I have one of full-blown apathy which pro-life people says that means that I support abortion. However, if abortion was made 100% illegal then I wouldn't care either. Abortion is like the transgender nonsense. It is so rare that it is a non-issue yet politicians jump all over it because both issues invoke ridiculous emotional responses from idiots. Idiots are a HUGE voting block.

 

[AntonToo]

And there are purists that would argue that the civil rights act was unconstitutional….Democrats did during its passage.

So if Alabama bussinesses want to have a policy to not hire blacks, so be it, it's not for America as a whole to have a law on.

Right?

 

[j-mac]

So if Alabama bussinesses want to have a policy to not hire blacks, so be it, it's not for America as a whole to have a law on.

Right?

WTF are you talking about? What businesses are refusing to hire blacks?

 

[j-mac]

My point isn't about what I want. My point is that Republicans had the power many times and did nothing on the abortion is. That's just facts.

Now if you want my opinion then I think Republicans strategically did nothing about it because being on the "losing" side of abortion was a very effective strategy for winning elections in the south and the midwest.

If you want to know my views on abortion, then I have one of full-blown apathy which pro-life people says that means that I support abortion. However, if abortion was made 100% illegal then I wouldn't care either. Abortion is like the transgender nonsense. It is so rare that it is a non-issue yet politicians jump all over it because both issues invoke ridiculous emotional responses from idiots. Idiots are a HUGE voting block.

The Guttmacher Institute today released new data showing that in 2024 there were 1,038,100 clinician-provided abortions in US states…

Guttmacher Institute Releases Full-Year US Abortion Data for 2024

www.guttmacher.org

Somehow I think you’d have a different response if over a million individuals were killed under Trump …

 

[AntonToo]

WTF are you talking about? What businesses are refusing to hire blacks?

Seems fairly straight forward what I'm talking about.

Again, if there was no Civil Rights Act then a bussiness can legaly have a policy to not hire blacks, unless there is a state law against it.

Does that belong with the states as well?

 

[j-mac]

Seems fairly straight forward what I'm talking about.

Again, if there was no Civil Rights Act then a bussiness can legaly have a policy to not hire blacks, unless there is a state law against it.

Does that belong with the states as well?

If wishes were fishes…

 

[AntonToo]

If wishes were fishes…

Yep, can't answer.