GOP Rep. Madison Cawthorn Warns Of ‘Bloodshed’ While Repeating False Election Claims

[Lakhota]

The countries with the least corruption use Proportional Representation. It's not a coincidence, Proportional Representation leads to a more open system.

In Germany they vote PR and FPTP on the same day. In 2017 the CDU/CSU (equivalent of the Republicans) gained 37.2% of the vote with FPTP and 77% of the seats.

With Proportional Representation they gained 33% of the vote, 4.2% chose to vote for another party because they didn't feel restricted by FPTP's limits. And they got 34.7% of the seats.

Which is fairer? 33% of people getting 34.7% of the seats, or 4.2% feeling they have to vote CDU/CSU when they'd prefer to vote for a smaller party and then 77% of the seats go to this party anyway?

The FDP, center right party got 7% of the votes with FPTP, and they got zero seats, simply because the system said "no". With PR they got 80 seats with 10.7% of the vote, or 11.2% of the seats. Why should 10.7% of the population get ignored because the system says "no"?

Also Germany has 6 political parties. This is because they have a 5% cut off. Meaning any party with less than 5% gets no seats. They could still get FPTP seats though, but it's harder to get FPTP seats.

In Denmark they have a 2% cut off, and they have 10 political parties.

In the US you have a farmer in Wyoming and a farmer in California. Perhaps they feel the same about policies. But in California the farmer will get totally ignored. It's the largest Republican state (at the 2020 presidential election at least) and all the Republicans got ignored at the presidential election.

But with PR the Wyoming farmer and Californian farmer could vote for the same party and their vote would count the same as everyone else's vote. Perhaps only one person in Wyoming wants to vote for this party, his vote still counts. He doesn't get drowned out by those around him.

You then have sensible politics. Instead of Democrats trying to attract more than 50% of people, parties would focus on core areas. Farmers, urban areas, liberals, fascists, whatever. They'd represent these people properly, if they didn't..... they'd get kicked out.

In German (again), they have the AfD. The AfD, a further right party, was founded in 2013. In that year they won 4.7% of the vote, not enough to get over the threshold, but a decent number of votes.
In 2017 they got 12.6% of the vote and became the third largest party taking a lot of votes away from the CDU/CSU (who had 41.5% of the vote in 2013 and then 33% on 2017). They got 91 seats.

In the UK, which has FPTP only, UKIP, a further right party, was founded in 1993. By 2015 they managed to get 12.6% of the vote (how ironic) and got one seat.

So, in Germany when people get fed up with a political party, they feel they can vote someone else and their voice will be heard. It means that politicians have to listen to the people, and they have to be on the ball.

With FPTP they don't need to, it takes small parties a long time to gain enough support for people to feel like they're not wasting their vote. Because when 12.6% of people vote for you and you get one seat, and almost no voice, but the Tories, who a lot of people wanted to punish, go on to form the government, only because the system says "yes", it's ridiculous.

Question is, who do you want to decide who represents you? You, or the system?

Election "officials" said there was no election corruption or fraud.

 

[meaner gene]

Election "officials" said there was no election corruption or fraud.

Election officials take their jobs seriously. Their main concern is to make the election run as smoothly as possible, and to have the integrity to instill public confidence in the system.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Election "officials" said there was no election corruption or fraud.

Doesn't matter. With Proportional Representation you withdraw the need to commit fraud.

Fraud within a smaller area is more profitable.

If you can change 10,000 votes in an areas of 50,000 voters, that's massive. You change 10,000 votes in an area of 150 million people, it's nothing.

PR stops a lot of corruption and adds way more oversight with more political parties.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Doesn't matter. With Proportional Representation you withdraw the need to commit fraud.

Fraud within a smaller area is more profitable.

If you can change 10,000 votes in an areas of 50,000 voters, that's massive. You change 10,000 votes in an area of 150 million people, it's nothing.

PR stops a lot of corruption and adds way more oversight with more political parties.

Also counting tens of millions of bogus votes as valid might just have an effect.

 

[lennypartiv]

But there were no anomalies.

Just ballots appearing out of nowhere in the middle of the night.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Also counting tens of millions of bogus votes as valid might just have an effect.

Perhaps, but it'd take corruption on a much larger scale to have the same impact, and the larger it is, the easier to find it.

Also, if you have more than one party working in an area, then it's harder to do anyway.

 

[Lakhota]

Just ballots appearing out of nowhere in the middle of the night.

Proof?

 

[Lakhota]

Cawthorn needs a head doctor.

 

[Smokin' OP]

The lesson to be learned:

Massively fraudulent elections have consequences.

Sure they do, it gets retards elected.

Clinton- 65,844,954 votes.
Trump- 62,979,879 votes.

 

[MinTrut]

Sure they do, it gets retards elected.

Clinton- 65,844,954 votes.
Trump- 62,979,879 votes.

Ah - more Democrat hate speech & bigotry; call me unsurprised.

Biden's not intellectually challenged; he's just a demented rapist and child-groping, incompetent career criminal.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Ah - more Democrat hate speech & bigotry; call me unsurprised.

Biden's not intellectually challenged; he's just a demented rapist and child-groping, incompetent career criminal.

Trumptards are just like their dear leader.
Making baseless claims with no proof.
Why haven't the RWNJ's shown those videos or evidence to any RWNJ prosecutor?
Why hasn't that RWNJ prosecutor shown those videos or evidence to ANY RWNJ judge for prosecution?

Your 'feelings,' aren't proof.

 

[Batcat]

He isn't the problem for folks like yourself. You seem perfectly confident that Trump lost in a landslide and the anomalies that were brought up and dismissed without any real investigation mean nothing to you. Except, they DO, and whether you accept the belief of tens of millions of Americans who disagree, they WILL BE HEARD.

Trump voters had to endure 4 solid YEARS of investigations and claims that he was illegitimate and there was never any real proof. When one investigation failed to remove him, you just moved on to the next. NOW you seem so entitled as to really believe that because your media tells you what you want to hear, that you have the power to actually dictate reality to the rest of us. This is a VERY dangerous path you're on and unless we join together to perform audits to prove nothing happened, the last tie that binds us together is going to dissolve.

Your choice. Choose well, because once it begins, none of us will benefit.

I agree that a violent insurrection would benefit nobody. In order to stop that from happening we need to make damn sure our elections are not being rigged. Otherwise this nation will split apart hopefully in a peaceful manner but the split might easily be bloody.

The result would no longer be the strongest nation in the world by any means.

Perhaps that is the final goal. The Globalist win and we have “a new world order.”

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[MinTrut]

Trumptards are just like their dear leader.

More bigoted Democrat hate speech and delusional claims.

Making baseless claims with no proof.

Ironic; see above.

Why haven't the RWNJ's shown those videos or evidence to any RWNJ prosecutor?

What are you spewing about?

Why hasn't that RWNJ prosecutor shown those videos or evidence to ANY RWNJ judge for prosecution?

See above.

Your 'feelings,' aren't proof.

The massive proof is proof; feelings aren't relevant.

 

[Smokin' OP]

More bigoted Democrat hate speech and delusional claims.

Ironic; see above.

What are you spewing about?

See above.

The massive proof is proof; feelings aren't relevant.

Where?
If the proof "massive', then it should be easily be provable to some RWNJ judge, right?

 

[surada]

Somebody cares what you choose?

MSN

The list is said to be evolving and could be added to as the investigation steps up. As of now it includes Republican Reps. Lauren Boebert of Colorado, Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, Jim Jordan of Ohio, Andy Biggs of Arizona, Paul Gosar also of Arizona, Mo Brooks of Alabama, Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina, Matt Gaetz of Florida, Louie Gohmert of Texas, Jody Hice of Georgia and Scott Perry of Pennsylvania.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

“If our election systems continue to be rigged and continue to be stolen, it’s gonna lead to one place, and it’s bloodshed,” the Republican told an audience.

During his speech, he repeated Trump’s lie that the 2020 election was “rigged” & warned it would result in violence.

At a local GOP political event in his home state on Sunday, Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-N.C.) warned of “bloodshed” over the 2020 election and called people arrested and charged for the Jan. 6 Capitol riot “political hostages.”

The far-right lawmaker made the comments during an event hosted by the Macon County Republican Party in Franklin, North Carolina, that the group streamed to Facebook. The post has since been removed.

During his speech, Cawthorn repeated former President Donald Trump’s lie that the 2020 election was “rigged” and warned that it would result in violence.

“If our election systems continue to be rigged and continue to be stolen, it’s gonna lead to one place, and it’s bloodshed,” he said.

He then advocated for “election security,” saying, “And I will tell you, as much as I’m willing to defend our liberty at all costs, there’s nothing that I would dread doing more than having to pick up arms against a fellow American. And the way that we can have recourse against that is if we all passionately demand that we have election security in all 50 states.”

Rep. Madison Cawthorn Warns Of ‘Bloodshed’ While Repeating False Election Claims​

This man sounds deranged and dangerous to me! What do you think?

He was just being sarcastic.....just simple locker room banter

 

[MinTrut]

Where?

Everywhere.

If the proof "massive', then it should be easily be provable to some RWNJ judge, right?

I have no idea what you're raving about; post in English & I'll reply.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

“If our election systems continue to be rigged and continue to be stolen, it’s gonna lead to one place, and it’s bloodshed,” the Republican told an audience.

During his speech, he repeated Trump’s lie that the 2020 election was “rigged” & warned it would result in violence.

At a local GOP political event in his home state on Sunday, Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-N.C.) warned of “bloodshed” over the 2020 election and called people arrested and charged for the Jan. 6 Capitol riot “political hostages.”

The far-right lawmaker made the comments during an event hosted by the Macon County Republican Party in Franklin, North Carolina, that the group streamed to Facebook. The post has since been removed.

During his speech, Cawthorn repeated former President Donald Trump’s lie that the 2020 election was “rigged” and warned that it would result in violence.

“If our election systems continue to be rigged and continue to be stolen, it’s gonna lead to one place, and it’s bloodshed,” he said.

He then advocated for “election security,” saying, “And I will tell you, as much as I’m willing to defend our liberty at all costs, there’s nothing that I would dread doing more than having to pick up arms against a fellow American. And the way that we can have recourse against that is if we all passionately demand that we have election security in all 50 states.”

Rep. Madison Cawthorn Warns Of ‘Bloodshed’ While Repeating False Election Claims​

This man sounds deranged and dangerous to me! What do you think?

I think you're a useful idiot for an out of control government

 

[Lakhota]

Cawthorn needs a shrink.

 

[lennypartiv]

Cawthorn needs a shrink.

Cawthorn needs a promotion.