"GOP No Longer a 'Normal' Party" - David Brooks

[initforme]

I would be all for lowering taxes IF it actually created jobs. Fine, lower all taxes but the GOP has got to quit lying about how lowering taxes creates jobs. I would stake everything I own that very few jobs would be created if all taxes were eliminated. Lets eliminate all taxes. That way we dont have to pay for anything including a military that could use some major cutting.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You are STILL following the down path of the false premise.

Everything you mention here is predictaed on the idea that not raising the debt ceiling means we default on the debt by not paying our creditors.

You are willfully ignoring the very real fact that nothing about not raising the debt ceiling in NO WAY NECESSITATES that we cannot pay our creditors as we have MORE than enough revenue to do so.

And so, nothing you mention is at any way a necessary result of not raising the ceiling.

You seem to not understand what happens when we don't raise the debt ceiling by the date. I don't think you understand the implication of S&P lowering our credit rating to D either. Or Moody lowering ours. Even a single day with the debt ceiling not raise will hurt this country and our ability to pay back our debt going forward.

But hey, feel free to ignore all the financial analysts and experts because Ron Paul or the GOP think everything will be a-okay if we don't raise the debt ceiling.

The fact of the matter is when you use the words

So... while not paying our creditors might very well hurt us

in a sentence, that alone tells you why we need to raise the debt ceiling. End of story.

The downgrading and warning started because Failed Leader Obama is spending like a crack ho and predate the debt ceiling talks.

 

[BlindBoo]

LOL, like we are SUPPOSE to now take what some so called "conservative" political columnist says as the gospel..
People better WAKE up and see this is ALL just smoke being blown up your asses by the Obama and his Comrades in arms. IF they were serious, they NEVER would of let this get THIS FAR when they had a MAJORITY..

The commies are out to get you. Go back to sleep.

stupid insults all you got left? That's what you all resort to when you have NOTHING and people DISAGREE with you..

Comrades in arms????? Hahahaha.

But the commies are out to get you......

 

[Mustang]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/opinion/05brooks.html?_r=4&ref=davidbrooks

Thoughts?

A normal political party requires normal core members. The GOP has been chasing the more normal members away for years as it driftted ever further right. Now the base has too many core members who metaphorically ascribe to the insane notion that burning down a house to solve a termit problem is actually a viable solution to the problem.

good gawd, could you please talk NORMAL..we won't think less of you if you do, REALLY..
SHEEEEEEEESH

I never worry about what conservatives think since I don't believe that conservatives really do much thinking. You guys are ruled by your feelings. That's why someone like Rush Limbaugh can manipulate so many people. You see, his intellectual arguments (what few there are) are flimsy. It's his emotional pleas that gets conservatives all worked up.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Only really stupid or totally brainwashed people fall for the Red Scare. One might think of the damage done to American Citizens by Sen. McCarthy, or the cost in blood and treasure defending the domino theory or watching the two largest Communist nations slide slowly into market economies, would disabuse anyone of being scared by a failed economic theory.

Of course these nations do not have and their leadership does not trust the freedoms we, individual Americans, enjoy. The lesson taken should not be to fear a failed economic theory, but to fear the ideology which has taken root in the far Right of America today.

 

[BlindBoo]

You are STILL following the down path of the false premise.

Everything you mention here is predictaed on the idea that not raising the debt ceiling means we default on the debt by not paying our creditors.

You are willfully ignoring the very real fact that nothing about not raising the debt ceiling in NO WAY NECESSITATES that we cannot pay our creditors as we have MORE than enough revenue to do so.

And so, nothing you mention is at any way a necessary result of not raising the ceiling.

You seem to not understand what happens when we don't raise the debt ceiling by the date. I don't think you understand the implication of S&P lowering our credit rating to D either. Or Moody lowering ours. Even a single day with the debt ceiling not raise will hurt this country and our ability to pay back our debt going forward.

But hey, feel free to ignore all the financial analysts and experts because Ron Paul or the GOP think everything will be a-okay if we don't raise the debt ceiling.

The fact of the matter is when you use the words

So... while not paying our creditors might very well hurt us

in a sentence, that alone tells you why we need to raise the debt ceiling. End of story.

The downgrading and warning started because Failed Leader Obama is spending like a crack ho and predate the debt ceiling talks.

Oh I think that we would have been downgraded last decade too if Congress did not raise the debt ceiling 7 times for President Bush.

Does that make President Bush a failed crack-ho leader too?

 

[grunt11b]

I still think "Raising Revenues" is code speak for raising taxes. They just changed the wording on it. We may not see a payroll hike, but we will see it from elsewhere like we have been at the grocery store, gas pump, etc.
You are right, the Republican party is no more, which is why we need to vote them out and replace them with true conservatives like the party was meant to be years ago. But on a better note, at least the GOP has not been completely ransacked by communist yet like the Democrat party has.

 

[Dot Com]

You seem to not understand what happens when we don't raise the debt ceiling by the date. I don't think you understand the implication of S&P lowering our credit rating to D either. Or Moody lowering ours. Even a single day with the debt ceiling not raise will hurt this country and our ability to pay back our debt going forward.

But hey, feel free to ignore all the financial analysts and experts because Ron Paul or the GOP think everything will be a-okay if we don't raise the debt ceiling.

The fact of the matter is when you use the words in a sentence, that alone tells you why we need to raise the debt ceiling. End of story.

The downgrading and warning started because Failed Leader Obama is spending like a crack ho and predate the debt ceiling talks.

Oh I think that we would have been downgraded last decade too if Congress did not raise the debt ceiling 7 times for President Bush.

Does that make President Bush a failed crack-ho leader too?

Yeah Frankie. What say you

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The downgrading and warning started because Failed Leader Obama is spending like a crack ho and predate the debt ceiling talks.

Oh I think that we would have been downgraded last decade too if Congress did not raise the debt ceiling 7 times for President Bush.

Does that make President Bush a failed crack-ho leader too?

Yeah Frankie. What say you

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. ... It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government's reckless fiscal policies." -- Barack Hussein Obama, Failed Leader, Community Organizer and low-level socialist agitator

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You seem to not understand what happens when we don't raise the debt ceiling by the date. I don't think you understand the implication of S&P lowering our credit rating to D either. Or Moody lowering ours. Even a single day with the debt ceiling not raise will hurt this country and our ability to pay back our debt going forward.

But hey, feel free to ignore all the financial analysts and experts because Ron Paul or the GOP think everything will be a-okay if we don't raise the debt ceiling.

The fact of the matter is when you use the words in a sentence, that alone tells you why we need to raise the debt ceiling. End of story.

The downgrading and warning started because Failed Leader Obama is spending like a crack ho and predate the debt ceiling talks.

Oh I think that we would have been downgraded last decade too if Congress did not raise the debt ceiling 7 times for President Bush.

Does that make President Bush a failed crack-ho leader too?

Pay attention, Dear, the talk of a downgrade started only AFTER Failed Leader Obama screwed over GM and Chrysler creditors and AFTER Failed Leader Obama raqn up a deficits greater than any Reagan budget.

 

[Dot Com]

Oh I think that we would have been downgraded last decade too if Congress did not raise the debt ceiling 7 times for President Bush.

Does that make President Bush a failed crack-ho leader too?

Yeah Frankie. What say you

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. ... It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government's reckless fiscal policies." -- Barack Hussein Obama, Failed Leader, Community Organizer and low-level socialist agitator

That was no doubt said after the previous Repub Pres mired the U.S. in two, unpaid-for wars of which the Current Democratic Pres. is attempting to extract us from. I believe our current Pres voted against Vietraq also. What will the final tab be for those two wars , which are far from over BTW, that Bu$h II put on your grand kid's credit card hmmm?

 

[Stephanie]

The commies are out to get you. Go back to sleep.

stupid insults all you got left? That's what you all resort to when you have NOTHING and people DISAGREE with you..

Comrades in arms????? Hahahaha.

But the commies are out to get you......

Oh brother.. Just calling them what THEY ARE. Now you go play with your little buddy who gave you an atta boy, rdd-ddddddd1220

 

[Dot Com]

How will Stephie, Frankie57, & The Rabbi cope when O'Bama is reelected?

 

[whitehall]

It's easy to translate these political catch phrases. "Normal" republicans can be trusted to cave in on issues and chicken out on debates. Other words like "partisan" means those nasty republicans are sometimes confrontational. How annoying for democrats.

 

[hellofromwarsaw]

We seem to have all the whacky 20% right here....a couple of hints: "Revenue increase" means a bit (4%) higher taxes on the bloated rich ONLY, and Obama is offering ALL KINDS of spending cuts. Turn off the BS, sadly misled.Your heroes are bought off swine...tyvm

 

[Stephanie]

How will Stephie, Frankie57, & The Rabbi cope when O'Bama is reelected?

glad it concerns you so.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yeah Frankie. What say you

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. ... It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government's reckless fiscal policies." -- Barack Hussein Obama, Failed Leader, Community Organizer and low-level socialist agitator

That was no doubt said after the previous Repub Pres mired the U.S. in two, unpaid-for wars of which the Current Democratic Pres. is attempting to extract us from. I believe our current Pres voted against Vietraq also. What will the final tab be for those two wars , which are far from over BTW, that Bu$h II put on your grand kid's credit card hmmm?

You Obama Fluffers are so cute when you're making excuses for him!

 

[RDD_1210]

How will Stephie, Frankie57, & The Rabbi cope when O'Bama is reelected?

That's when they'll just switch over to the "Just wait til 2016!" slogan

 

[CrusaderFrank]

How will Stephie, Frankie57, & The Rabbi cope when O'Bama is reelected?

Frankie57 was funny...had to PosRep that

 

[Stephanie]

How will Stephie, Frankie57, & The Rabbi cope when O'Bama is reelected?

That's when they'll just switch over to the "Just wait til 2016!" slogan

you lefties are so cute when you think you know EVERYTHING.