GOP Lawmaker Wants To End Higher Education To ‘Save America’ From Liberals

[progressive hunter]

Yeah, because having no doctors, no engineers, no teachers, and no lawyers will make us such a great country, right?

It always amazes me when elected officials fear elections.

those are just trade schools

I would love to see you try tell my daughter the doctor that she just went to a trade school.

she better hope he did and doesnt just have a general education degree

 

[BULLDOG]

Yeah, because having no doctors, no engineers, no teachers, and no lawyers will make us such a great country, right?

It always amazes me when elected officials fear elections.

those are just trade schools

I would love to see you try tell my daughter the doctor that she just went to a trade school.

she better hope he did and doesnt just have a general education degree

That's the dumbest thing have read all week.

 

[progressive hunter]

Yeah, because having no doctors, no engineers, no teachers, and no lawyers will make us such a great country, right?

It always amazes me when elected officials fear elections.

those are just trade schools

I would love to see you try tell my daughter the doctor that she just went to a trade school.

she better hope he did and doesnt just have a general education degree

That's the dumbest thing have read all week.

so your OK with doctors having just a general education degree??

 

[WinterBorn]

Yeah, because having no doctors, no engineers, no teachers, and no lawyers will make us such a great country, right?

It always amazes me when elected officials fear elections.

those are just trade schools

I would love to see you try tell my daughter the doctor that she just went to a trade school.

she better hope he did and doesnt just have a general education degree

That's the dumbest thing have read all week.

so your OK with doctors having just a general education degree??

Do medical schools accept students with a general education degree?

 

[progressive hunter]

those are just trade schools

I would love to see you try tell my daughter the doctor that she just went to a trade school.

she better hope he did and doesnt just have a general education degree

That's the dumbest thing have read all week.

so your OK with doctors having just a general education degree??

Do medical schools accept students with a general education degree?

what does a medical school teach??

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And uneducated people struggle in every society.

I agree. It's a shame that higher education is producing uneducated drones. Vocational training leads to better paying jobs without a huge debt load and no indoctrination.

It would make sense to check the job market before starting a higher education course in some fields, but to imply vocational training is a good replacement for engineers, doctors, and scientists is just childish.

A young neighbor of mine was going to college, racking up debt, and he asked my advice. I suggested a vocational school.

He found one that interested him, paid the tuition with a loan. And immediately upon graduation had a job offer of 24 an hour with benefits.

He took that job, and after one month, once they saw he was good, he was bumped up to 28 an hour.

Yes, there is a need for engineers, but not everyone is suited to that profession.

Many kids go to college, who shouldn't.

You all like to point to Germany and it's free college, but you ignore the fact that they only allow a small number of people into college.

I agree that vocational school is great for some people, but to advocate vocational school to replace higher education is stupid. There can be no rational discussion that would include such a premise.

When higher education is churning out degrees that have no value, yes, the discussion needs to take place.

I see kids all over Reno working jobs that will never pay enough to pay off their student debt.

That is criminal. Far better for those degrees to have never been created.

So, you do not believe in personal responsibility? When did you become a liberal?

 

[progressive hunter]

I agree. It's a shame that higher education is producing uneducated drones. Vocational training leads to better paying jobs without a huge debt load and no indoctrination.

It would make sense to check the job market before starting a higher education course in some fields, but to imply vocational training is a good replacement for engineers, doctors, and scientists is just childish.

A young neighbor of mine was going to college, racking up debt, and he asked my advice. I suggested a vocational school.

He found one that interested him, paid the tuition with a loan. And immediately upon graduation had a job offer of 24 an hour with benefits.

He took that job, and after one month, once they saw he was good, he was bumped up to 28 an hour.

Yes, there is a need for engineers, but not everyone is suited to that profession.

Many kids go to college, who shouldn't.

You all like to point to Germany and it's free college, but you ignore the fact that they only allow a small number of people into college.

I agree that vocational school is great for some people, but to advocate vocational school to replace higher education is stupid. There can be no rational discussion that would include such a premise.

When higher education is churning out degrees that have no value, yes, the discussion needs to take place.

I see kids all over Reno working jobs that will never pay enough to pay off their student debt.

That is criminal. Far better for those degrees to have never been created.

So, you do not believe in personal responsibility? When did you become a liberal?

thats not what he said,,

 

[MindWars]

They really went after the blacks and yet you dumb fks keep voting democrat and for educational bs because once again the POWER OF EDUCATION GETS TO DUMB U FKRS DOWN even more.. each generation they make mortars out of all you dumbasses who can't seem to figure out how . DUMBING DOWN AMERICA " WORKS IN THEIR FAVORS!!!!!

THE MAP TO YOUR ENSLAVEMENT IS IN PLAIN VIEW AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN DUMB FK LEFTIST AND SOME RIGHT you just keep letting it all go right over your heads.......






“The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America — A Chronological Paper Trail”, will change forever the way you look at your child’s education. Written by whistleblower Charlotte T. Iserbyt, it is the result of what she discovered while working in the US Department of Education and her subsequent research on the subject. First published in 1999, the original edition of the book contains 743 pages replete with documentation of the policies, conversations and events that led up to the way our educational system is run today.

“Exposing the Global Road to Ruin Through Education” is an 8-DVD/CD Set containing speeches and round tables featuring Charlotte Iserbyt with some of the country’s foremost education researchers. It covers everything from one teacher’s experiences in the globally-controlled classroom, to a speech by Rosa Koire, author of “Behind the Green Mask”. Koire spoke on the dangers of regionalism. Regionalism is the path to globalism, and an attempt to replace local control and influence every aspect of our lives.

Predictions made in this book — “Back to Basics Reform or OBE Skinnerian International Curriculum” — published in 1985, 1993, and 2004, have come true. The book — which spells out clearly how OBE, Goals 2000, No Child Left Behind, and School-to-Work would be implemented — was boycotted by major conservative organizations. Read it and ask yourself “Why?” The book has sold 50,000 copies to grassroots organizations.

“Soviets in the Classroom” — first published in 1989 — is an important piece of work which outlines the agreements made between our government and the Soviets with regard to education. Included is a timeline starting from the 1930s on, which lists important events related to this transformation.

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The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America, Revised and Abridged Edition (2011-05-03) by Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt

Welcome to the “little edition” of the “big book” — The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America: A Chronological Paper Trail. Since the original publication of the 743-page, 8-1/2″x11″ tome, readers have requested a smaller, lighter version. This new version is in response to those many requests. The afterword, glossary, resources, appendices and index have all been removed from the 2011 version. Of utmost importance is the addition of “Update” which covers the final, but long-planned, institutionalization, since publication of the original book in 1999, of three activities, relatively new to the reader: (1) the use of unconstitutional tax-supported (public/private partnership) charter schools run by unelected boards. These schools use non-graded Skinnerian computer instruction to train for the planned economy (school to work); (2) global values-changing education, including International Baccalaureate programs and (3) restructuring of our nation’s representative governmental structure, using regionalism (socialism) with its unelected councils (soviets), and communitarianism.


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[WinterBorn]

I would love to see you try tell my daughter the doctor that she just went to a trade school.

she better hope he did and doesnt just have a general education degree

That's the dumbest thing have read all week.

so your OK with doctors having just a general education degree??

Do medical schools accept students with a general education degree?

what does a medical school teach??

So you admit your "so your (you're) OK with doctors having just a general education degree?" was a stupid question?

 

[WinterBorn]

It would make sense to check the job market before starting a higher education course in some fields, but to imply vocational training is a good replacement for engineers, doctors, and scientists is just childish.

A young neighbor of mine was going to college, racking up debt, and he asked my advice. I suggested a vocational school.

He found one that interested him, paid the tuition with a loan. And immediately upon graduation had a job offer of 24 an hour with benefits.

He took that job, and after one month, once they saw he was good, he was bumped up to 28 an hour.

Yes, there is a need for engineers, but not everyone is suited to that profession.

Many kids go to college, who shouldn't.

You all like to point to Germany and it's free college, but you ignore the fact that they only allow a small number of people into college.

I agree that vocational school is great for some people, but to advocate vocational school to replace higher education is stupid. There can be no rational discussion that would include such a premise.

When higher education is churning out degrees that have no value, yes, the discussion needs to take place.

I see kids all over Reno working jobs that will never pay enough to pay off their student debt.

That is criminal. Far better for those degrees to have never been created.

So, you do not believe in personal responsibility? When did you become a liberal?

thats not what he said,,

He seemed to be blaming the college for the student's choice in degrees. So yeah, he kinda did say that.

 

[westwall]

I agree. It's a shame that higher education is producing uneducated drones. Vocational training leads to better paying jobs without a huge debt load and no indoctrination.

It would make sense to check the job market before starting a higher education course in some fields, but to imply vocational training is a good replacement for engineers, doctors, and scientists is just childish.

A young neighbor of mine was going to college, racking up debt, and he asked my advice. I suggested a vocational school.

He found one that interested him, paid the tuition with a loan. And immediately upon graduation had a job offer of 24 an hour with benefits.

He took that job, and after one month, once they saw he was good, he was bumped up to 28 an hour.

Yes, there is a need for engineers, but not everyone is suited to that profession.

Many kids go to college, who shouldn't.

You all like to point to Germany and it's free college, but you ignore the fact that they only allow a small number of people into college.

I agree that vocational school is great for some people, but to advocate vocational school to replace higher education is stupid. There can be no rational discussion that would include such a premise.

When higher education is churning out degrees that have no value, yes, the discussion needs to take place.

I see kids all over Reno working jobs that will never pay enough to pay off their student debt.

That is criminal. Far better for those degrees to have never been created.

So, you do not believe in personal responsibility? When did you become a liberal?

I've always been a classical liberal. Kids today are propagandized so the don't know what the value of the education they are given is.

The colleges are guilty of educational malfeasance.

 

[progressive hunter]

she better hope he did and doesnt just have a general education degree

That's the dumbest thing have read all week.

so your OK with doctors having just a general education degree??

Do medical schools accept students with a general education degree?

what does a medical school teach??

So you admit your "so your (you're) OK with doctors having just a general education degree?" was a stupid question?

misquoting me doesnt help your POV

and correcting a brain fart makes it worse

 

[progressive hunter]

A young neighbor of mine was going to college, racking up debt, and he asked my advice. I suggested a vocational school.

He found one that interested him, paid the tuition with a loan. And immediately upon graduation had a job offer of 24 an hour with benefits.

He took that job, and after one month, once they saw he was good, he was bumped up to 28 an hour.

Yes, there is a need for engineers, but not everyone is suited to that profession.

Many kids go to college, who shouldn't.

You all like to point to Germany and it's free college, but you ignore the fact that they only allow a small number of people into college.

I agree that vocational school is great for some people, but to advocate vocational school to replace higher education is stupid. There can be no rational discussion that would include such a premise.

When higher education is churning out degrees that have no value, yes, the discussion needs to take place.

I see kids all over Reno working jobs that will never pay enough to pay off their student debt.

That is criminal. Far better for those degrees to have never been created.

So, you do not believe in personal responsibility? When did you become a liberal?

thats not what he said,,

He seemed to be blaming the college for the student's choice in degrees. So yeah, he kinda did say that.

blaming the college is the opposite of personal responsibility which proves he didnt say that

 

[Lysistrata]

Tennessee lawmaker Kerry Roberts calls for removal of higher education | TribLIVE.com
NASHVILLE — A Republican Tennessee lawmaker says he supports getting rid of higher education because he argues it would cut off the “liberal breeding ground.”

They should remove it , this has been nothing but a Gov. scam from day one.

I agree with Kerry Roberts. We're paying for our children to be turned into communist robotons by out-of-control leftist history rewriters who have an agenda of chaos to confuse before making socialism/communism seem so right. I keep countering here with the treachery of the Soviet Socialist Republic against their own citizens whom they starved to death in WWII when other countries were busy fighting off Hitler's Nazis. Also, Mao was on his own killing spree at the same time, taking advantage of the Iron Curtain to rid himself of all opposition in China. Both countries of socialists/communists of the day had brutal death tallies.

President Trump, somewhere in the second half of this speech brought forward students who'd been attacked by students/professors/universities for their religious or conservative views, that in the future, schools who sponsored retributive behaviors against student would no longer be receiving any kind of government grants. It's in here, but it's near or past the middle, somewhere I think:

Edit: he starts bringing college kids who've had bad experiences in school for their conservative political beliefs around the time of 22:00 (Twenty two minutes) There are 3 or 4 kids who've truly been silenced by schools through professors or by omission of disciplining offenders against students who are conservative in their views..

​

Challenging students to defend their beliefs is a major part of developing students' critical-thinking skills. It's not an "attack." If a person cannot support his or her views with reasoning, maybe this person should re-think them. If you go into law or journalism, or many other fields, you have got to learn to defend yourself. No responsible court in the land is going to allow an attorney to answer a question with a simple statement of "well, because . . ." without any follow-up.

The Socratic Method | University of Chicago Law School

This ancient teaching method is not just used in law schools. It's used all over and has been since ancient times. This little idiot at this trump rally is pledging to "stand up" for his beliefs. But apparently he cannot defend them because he doesn't know how to cope with being asked questions.

When I got my degree in history, I not only had to pass written comps, I had to stand before a panel of history professors, including one that was a Catholic monsignor and another who went on to become president of one of the Seven Sisters, and answer any question that was put to me.

I think that this kid can't take the heat, but wants to stay in the kitchen.

 

[westwall]

A young neighbor of mine was going to college, racking up debt, and he asked my advice. I suggested a vocational school.

He found one that interested him, paid the tuition with a loan. And immediately upon graduation had a job offer of 24 an hour with benefits.

He took that job, and after one month, once they saw he was good, he was bumped up to 28 an hour.

Yes, there is a need for engineers, but not everyone is suited to that profession.

Many kids go to college, who shouldn't.

You all like to point to Germany and it's free college, but you ignore the fact that they only allow a small number of people into college.

I agree that vocational school is great for some people, but to advocate vocational school to replace higher education is stupid. There can be no rational discussion that would include such a premise.

When higher education is churning out degrees that have no value, yes, the discussion needs to take place.

I see kids all over Reno working jobs that will never pay enough to pay off their student debt.

That is criminal. Far better for those degrees to have never been created.

So, you do not believe in personal responsibility? When did you become a liberal?

thats not what he said,,

He seemed to be blaming the college for the student's choice in degrees. So yeah, he kinda did say that.

No, I didn't. I said that colleges push students into buying worthless degrees.

The colleges neglect to inform the prospective students that particular degree fields are next to worthless.

 

[westwall]

Tennessee lawmaker Kerry Roberts calls for removal of higher education | TribLIVE.com
NASHVILLE — A Republican Tennessee lawmaker says he supports getting rid of higher education because he argues it would cut off the “liberal breeding ground.”

They should remove it , this has been nothing but a Gov. scam from day one.

I agree with Kerry Roberts. We're paying for our children to be turned into communist robotons by out-of-control leftist history rewriters who have an agenda of chaos to confuse before making socialism/communism seem so right. I keep countering here with the treachery of the Soviet Socialist Republic against their own citizens whom they starved to death in WWII when other countries were busy fighting off Hitler's Nazis. Also, Mao was on his own killing spree at the same time, taking advantage of the Iron Curtain to rid himself of all opposition in China. Both countries of socialists/communists of the day had brutal death tallies.

President Trump, somewhere in the second half of this speech brought forward students who'd been attacked by students/professors/universities for their religious or conservative views, that in the future, schools who sponsored retributive behaviors against student would no longer be receiving any kind of government grants. It's in here, but it's near or past the middle, somewhere I think:

Edit: he starts bringing college kids who've had bad experiences in school for their conservative political beliefs around the time of 22:00 (Twenty two minutes) There are 3 or 4 kids who've truly been silenced by schools through professors or by omission of disciplining offenders against students who are conservative in their views..

​

Challenging students to defend their beliefs is a major part of developing students' critical-thinking skills. It's not an "attack." If a person cannot support his or her views with reasoning, maybe this person should re-think them. If you go into law or journalism, or many other fields, you have got to learn to defend yourself. No responsible court in the land is going to allow an attorney to answer a question with a simple statement of "well, because . . ." without any follow-up.

The Socratic Method | University of Chicago Law School

This ancient teaching method is not just used in law schools. It's used all over and has been since ancient times. This little idiot at this trump rally is pledging to "stand up" for his beliefs. But apparently he cannot defend them because he doesn't know how to cope with being asked questions.

When I got my degree in history, I not only had to pass written comps, I had to stand before a panel of history professors, including one that was a Catholic monsignor and another who went on to become president of one of the Seven Sisters, and answer any question that was put to me.

I think that this kid can't take the heat, but wants to stay in the kitchen.

I agree . Today's colleges REFUSE to allow opposing thoughts, thus no critical thinking occurrs.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Tennessee lawmaker Kerry Roberts calls for removal of higher education | TribLIVE.com
NASHVILLE — A Republican Tennessee lawmaker says he supports getting rid of higher education because he argues it would cut off the “liberal breeding ground.”



They should remove it , this has been nothing but a Gov. scam from day one.

Education is the greatest enemy of modern American conservatism. So not surprised.

Actually, right now it is the greatest enemy of freedom. Brainwashed kids are great for tyrannical governments, but struggle in free societies.

Not even a good lie. Anti-Intellectualism is the greatest threat to humanity. Want to see a brainwashed fool? Look in a mirror.

 

[BULLDOG]

I agree that vocational school is great for some people, but to advocate vocational school to replace higher education is stupid. There can be no rational discussion that would include such a premise.

When higher education is churning out degrees that have no value, yes, the discussion needs to take place.

I see kids all over Reno working jobs that will never pay enough to pay off their student debt.

That is criminal. Far better for those degrees to have never been created.

So, you do not believe in personal responsibility? When did you become a liberal?

thats not what he said,,

He seemed to be blaming the college for the student's choice in degrees. So yeah, he kinda did say that.

No, I didn't. I said that colleges push students into buying worthless degrees.

The colleges neglect to inform the prospective students that particular degree fields are next to worthless.

That is a problem with mostly "for profit" colleges. Seems like I heard something about making the discredited ones maintain a higher standard. You can't compare legitimate institutes of higher learning with the fly by night money machines of for profit colleges.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Colleges today are indoctrination centers that hand out worthless degrees. The college graduates clings to their degrees in Comparative Religion and Art History. Question the use of higher education for such bunk and the student will indignantly respond "you don't want any doctors or engineers."

Meanwhile what really goes on is intense leftist indoctrination.
'Kill them all': Iowa professor resigns after his comments about evangelicals revealed

At least until caught.

 

[progressive hunter]

When higher education is churning out degrees that have no value, yes, the discussion needs to take place.

I see kids all over Reno working jobs that will never pay enough to pay off their student debt.

That is criminal. Far better for those degrees to have never been created.

So, you do not believe in personal responsibility? When did you become a liberal?

thats not what he said,,

He seemed to be blaming the college for the student's choice in degrees. So yeah, he kinda did say that.

No, I didn't. I said that colleges push students into buying worthless degrees.

The colleges neglect to inform the prospective students that particular degree fields are next to worthless.

That is a problem with mostly "for profit" colleges. Seems like I heard something about making the discredited ones maintain a higher standard. You can't compare legitimate institutes of higher learning with the fly by night money machines of for profit colleges.

all colleges are "for profit" colleges,,,