GOP ideas: “old and out of shape”

[citygator]

My wife and I would fall into the upper middle class demographic, but we are not millionaires and we were helped by some of the Trump's and Bush's policies. What exactly have the Democrats done to not help the wealthy? You constantly hear them talking about "paying their fair share," and greedy CEO's and a multitude of other slogans to drive class warfare, but what has your party actually done about it other than just talk?

You know who butters your bread as much as the GOP does.

Well. Reversing the Trump gift to the rich is a start.

President Biden’s FY 2025 budget again calls for corporate and individual tax increases

President Biden on March 11 sent Congress a fiscal year 2025 budget that proposes to increase taxes .

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President Joe Biden on March 11 sent Congress a fiscal year (FY) 2025 budget that proposes to increase taxes by nearly $5 trillion for corporations and for individuals with incomes above $400,000. Many of the president’s tax proposals -- including a proposal to increase the corporate tax rate to 28% and impose a 25% minimum tax on certain high-income individuals – were included in President Biden’s previous budgets. New tax proposals in the FY 2025 budget include measures to increase the recently enacted corporate alternative minimum tax rate from 15% to 21% and to deny business deductions for employee compensation above $1 million.

 

[citygator]

The "new ideas" have gotten Biden high disapproval numbers, about 70% of Americans say the country is going in the wrong direction, and over 70% of Americans are worse off than they were before and can't make ends meet. Time for some old and out of shape ideas.

The data said a record amount of Americans are satisfied with their finances but believe others are struggling. That’s perception vs reality.

 

[DBA]

Their caveman politics is about grievance, rage and retribution.

We need serious conversations on the issues, and they need to have serious input. But right now they're just gone.

Serious discussions with people who go around calling our previous President an orange baboon? Serious discussions with the average 16 year old who suddenly knows more than their parents? Yeah, ok.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Because you're boring. I know exactly how the conversation will go, and that's boring.

Play with someone else.

Oh...I'm "boring"....that's why you don't want to talk to me! Gosh and there I was thinking that you were one more lightweight poster that can't back up what they claim! My bad....

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Well. Reversing the Trump gift to the rich is a start.

President Biden’s FY 2025 budget again calls for corporate and individual tax increases

President Biden on March 11 sent Congress a fiscal year 2025 budget that proposes to increase taxes .

www.pwc.com

President Joe Biden on March 11 sent Congress a fiscal year (FY) 2025 budget that proposes to increase taxes by nearly $5 trillion for corporations and for individuals with incomes above $400,000. Many of the president’s tax proposals -- including a proposal to increase the corporate tax rate to 28% and impose a 25% minimum tax on certain high-income individuals – were included in President Biden’s previous budgets. New tax proposals in the FY 2025 budget include measures to increase the recently enacted corporate alternative minimum tax rate from 15% to 21% and to deny business deductions for employee compensation above $1 million.

So say that were to pass, so what? Are the people suddenly going to have more money in their pockets? Is the middle class all going to be upper middle class?

They'll take that extra money and blow it on their pet projects and war mongering overseas and we'll STILL be racking up massive debts. The regular average American won't see their situation improve one iota. You know it and I know it.

 

[Man With A Plan]

It never let 5,000 people in a day. That right there tells me you’re not serious or simply too stupid to figure out stuff yourself. You might as well be a dog on a leash listening to the commands of morons.

"The new emergency authority could be activated if border “encounters” reach a daily average of 4,000 over a period of seven days and would become mandatory once border encounters reach over 5,000 over a period of seven days or 8,500 over a single calendar day. However, there are several other rules governing the use of the emergency authority, rendering it much less straightforward than the simple mathematics of crossings (for example, the so-called “discretionary” authority at the 4,000/day level would in fact be mandatory for the first 90 days at that level after passage). In addition, the bill defines “encounters” to exclude apprehensions of unaccompanied migrant children."

And what makes THAT laughable is we're supposed to trust Mayorkas to give us the real numbers...the same little weasel that's been lying about the border being "secure" for the last 3 years! Gosh, Gator...why would someone who was serious about securing the border not LOVE that piece of legislation!

 

[Mac1958]

Economic inequality is at its zenith. Agree. That’s a feature not a bug though. Until Americans stop falling for the wealthy arguing everything that doesn’t favor them is socialism Marxism or whatever ism then we are in a circular loop. Masses have to be wise and educated in a democracy and we are failing at that.

Yep, that's why I say we're misapplying capitalism. It doesn't have to be like this.

 

[john doe 101]

I'm financially successful.




The point, of which you are well aware and purposefully glossing over, is that both parties are dependent on the super wealthy to keep them propped up, but since the turn of the century the bulk of the super wealthy have been gravitating towards the political left. This has been more than evident in regard to who they elect to represent them, the causes they support, and who they donate to. It was Obama and Clinton, not McCain, who received three out of four donations from Wall Street, after all. The "Republicans are the party of the rich" is an anecdote left over from the 1970s.

Yes I would agree our political system has been corrupted by campaign laws in regards to funding.

 

[Frankenstein]

Nuance: We support Israel but their attempt to protect themselves by weeding out Hamas is killing too many collateral innocent lives. Find a better strategy. That’s nuance.

Your recap lacked nuance totally.

Negative, the cowards who are hamas will always cause civilian casualties, and lie about the total number. Rooting out and killing hamas now saves lives in the long run!

 

[Frankenstein]

Cracks us up every time you claim your not part of the Dem cult. Hilarious.

Ditto!

 

[Seymour Flops]

The truth is that the Senate bill would have only codified allowing thousands of people in per day, and it would never - ever - have been invoked by this administration to limit the number of people allowed in.

So even the "5,000 per day" was a fake number.

 

[Man With A Plan]

The truth is that the Senate bill would have only codified allowing thousands of people in per day, and it would never - ever - have been invoked by this administration to limit the number of people allowed in.

So even the "5,000 per day" was a fake number.

All they would have had to claim, Seymour was one "slow" day during a calendar week and then they could let in up to 8,500 a day and that's if they didn't low ball THAT number! You trust Mayorkas though...right, Seymour? He'd never lie to us about something this important! The truth is...that bill would have legalized what they were already doing and if Trump was elected he wouldn't be able to change it without going through Congress.

 

[Independent thinker]

The data said a record amount of Americans are satisfied with their finances but believe others are struggling. That’s perception vs reality.

The reality is they can't pay their bills.

 

[citygator]

So say that were to pass, so what? Are the people suddenly going to have more money in their pockets? Is the middle class all going to be upper middle class?

They'll take that extra money and blow it on their pet projects and war mongering overseas and we'll STILL be racking up massive debts. The regular average American won't see their situation improve one iota. You know it and I know it.

Your original argument was that the democrats were cow towing to the rich just like the GOP. I show you they are not the same and are submitting tax increases on the wealthy and now you are moving on to an entirely different line of argument. Let’s agree that there is a difference in how the Democrats want to treat the wealthy vs the GOP and then we can argue on something else - apparently our next line of debate is whether organized government can collect and spend money or should we just implement anarchy and go without government.

 

[citygator]

The reality is they can't pay their bills.

No evidence of that exists.

 

[Magnus]

Last night on his way to raising a record $26M in funds Biden calls the GOP’s platform “old and out of shape” like their leader. Bwahahahaha.

The GOP’s platform doesn’t exist. Here is why you can't actually build a platform on the right. They don’t all want the same things they are just aligned around who they dont like.

The ultrawealthy individuals funding the movement want the kind of tax policies that benefit them. The New Right intellectuals manning the think tanks want to stick it to their “woke” rivals on campus. The Christian nationalist preachers want power, policies that privilege their religious viewpoints, and access to both public and private sources of money. The agendas of movement leaders are often at odds with those of the rank-and-file supporters, who are often being exploited or consciously manipulated.

What really unites them is a fear and loathing of liberals specifically, and the modern world more generally. Try to read descriptions of “the woke” from Christian nationalist leaders or leaders of the New Right and see if you recognize anybody or anything you know. They are united in their stated view that they face a monolithic totalitarian enemy, which includes anyone to the left of them. They really don’t know those who disagree with them politically and appear to have no interest in knowing them.

GOP Platform surrenders to complete Trump

Obama, Clinton and big-name entertainers help Biden raise a record $26 million for his reelection

Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and some big names from the entertainment world have delivered a rousing New York embrace of President Joe Biden at a campaign fundraiser that hauled in a record-setting $26 million-plus for the incumbent's reelection campaign.

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Yup. Their entire GOP platform in 2020 was this statement...

“RESOLVED, That the Republican Party has and will continue to enthusiastically support the President’s America-first agenda.”

In other words, we go with whatever the orange fuhrer wants. And they wonder why people call them cultists.

 

[citygator]

"The new emergency authority could be activated if border “encounters” reach a daily average of 4,000 over a period of seven days and would become mandatory once border encounters reach over 5,000 over a period of seven days or 8,500 over a single calendar day. However, there are several other rules governing the use of the emergency authority, rendering it much less straightforward than the simple mathematics of crossings (for example, the so-called “discretionary” authority at the 4,000/day level would in fact be mandatory for the first 90 days at that level after passage). In addition, the bill defines “encounters” to exclude apprehensions of unaccompanied migrant children."

And what makes THAT laughable is we're supposed to trust Mayorkas to give us the real numbers...the same little weasel that's been lying about the border being "secure" for the last 3 years! Gosh, Gator...why would someone who was serious about securing the border not LOVE that piece of legislation!

I know words will be wasted on you but I will try. The whole fucking bill set up a process on steroids to handle immigration.. more courts, more stringent stay rules, strict timelines for adjudication…billions added to staffing and infrastructure… then… and after the army of legislative proposals to handle immigrants was in place.. the bill said.. hey.. if all that is in place and the border gets bum rushed we’ll take it to the next level.. and it defined the next level.

At zero point did the legislation open fucking borders. However.. because you are just not very bright… a characteristic in legion with millions of stupid fucking right wing idiots… you post stupid shit like you just did.

 

[citygator]

The truth is that the Senate bill would have only codified allowing thousands of people in per day, and it would never - ever - have been invoked by this administration to limit the number of people allowed in.

So even the "5,000 per day" was a fake number.

See above when you get off the short bus.

 

[Flopper]

Last night on his way to raising a record $26M in funds Biden calls the GOP’s platform “old and out of shape” like their leader. Bwahahahaha.

The GOP’s platform doesn’t exist. Here is why you can't actually build a platform on the right. They don’t all want the same things they are just aligned around who they don't like.

The ultrawealthy individuals funding the movement want the kind of tax policies that benefit them. The New Right intellectuals manning the think tanks want to stick it to their “woke” rivals on campus. The Christian nationalist preachers want power, policies that privilege their religious viewpoints, and access to both public and private sources of money. The agendas of movement leaders are often at odds with those of the rank-and-file supporters, who are often being exploited or consciously manipulated.

What really unites them is a fear and loathing of liberals specifically, and the modern world more generally. Try to read descriptions of “the woke” from Christian nationalist leaders or leaders of the New Right and see if you recognize anybody or anything you know. They are united in their stated view that they face a monolithic totalitarian enemy, which includes anyone to the left of them. They really don’t know those who disagree with them politically and appear to have no interest in knowing them.

GOP Platform surrenders to complete Trump

Obama, Clinton and big-name entertainers help Biden raise a record $26 million for his reelection

Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and some big names from the entertainment world have delivered a rousing New York embrace of President Joe Biden at a campaign fundraiser that hauled in a record-setting $26 million-plus for the incumbent's reelection campaign.

apnews.com

Instead of a platform in 2020, the RNC elected to simply express its support for Donald Trump's agenda. It looks like that's going to be 2024 RNC position:

Here is Trump's agenda based on his campaign speeches:

• Stop all trials that threaten the Trump Presidency
• Impeach all federal judges appointed by democrats
• Re-impose the Jacksonian Spoils System immediately.
• Invoke the Insurrection Act of 1807 to deploy the military onto American streets.
• Direct the Department of Justice to go after domestic political enemies.
• Implement anti-immigrant policies and a massive deportation operation.
• Position American Troops on the boarder with a shoot on site order.
• Pursue an isolationist America First foreign policy.
• Repeal the Affordable Care Act.
• Terminate the Department of Education.
• Implement a Climate Change Denial Policy and a Anti-Clean Energy Program.
• Pursue an America First Trade Policy.

Sieg Heil Mein Fuhrer

 

[HeyNorm]

Last night on his way to raising a record $26M in funds Biden calls the GOP’s platform “old and out of shape” like their leader. Bwahahahaha.

The GOP’s platform doesn’t exist. Here is why you can't actually build a platform on the right. They don’t all want the same things they are just aligned around who they dont like.

The ultrawealthy individuals funding the movement want the kind of tax policies that benefit them. The New Right intellectuals manning the think tanks want to stick it to their “woke” rivals on campus. The Christian nationalist preachers want power, policies that privilege their religious viewpoints, and access to both public and private sources of money. The agendas of movement leaders are often at odds with those of the rank-and-file supporters, who are often being exploited or consciously manipulated.

What really unites them is a fear and loathing of liberals specifically, and the modern world more generally. Try to read descriptions of “the woke” from Christian nationalist leaders or leaders of the New Right and see if you recognize anybody or anything you know. They are united in their stated view that they face a monolithic totalitarian enemy, which includes anyone to the left of them. They really don’t know those who disagree with them politically and appear to have no interest in knowing them.

GOP Platform surrenders to complete Trump

Obama, Clinton and big-name entertainers help Biden raise a record $26 million for his reelection

Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and some big names from the entertainment world have delivered a rousing New York embrace of President Joe Biden at a campaign fundraiser that hauled in a record-setting $26 million-plus for the incumbent's reelection campaign.

apnews.com

Must be right. We still believe men can’t get pregnant.