Goodbye Proud Boys

[Sherlock Holmes]

How can there be “right and wrong” at an international level, if there are nations that will always fundamentally disagree on what is right and what is wrong?

We get our beliefs of right and wrong from our culture and God.

So why would you say I would regard October 7 as “not wrong”? My law, (God’s law) says that killing innocent women and children is wrong. Your god, says that it isn’t wrong. So how would any court be legitimate with multiple judges?

So you're a pacifist then.

I can form my opinions on any event in the world, based on my beliefs. For example in the case of Israel and Palestine, I believe both peoples are anti-Christs and are only pulling each other down to the bottomless pit. Islamists are the most barbaric, violent people on earth. The Jews are mostly atheist, Marxist types that are pushing their agenda onto the world with their influence.

What bout the US bombing of Laos for example, using your beliefs was that wrong? should the people participating in that be punished?

You on the other hand, appear to believe there should be some international body, comprised of judges from different nations, that would have the right to kill whoever they want.

I have no idea how you formed that belief. The president is the one who thinks he can kill whoever he wants. There is an international body too.

But who ultimately gets the authority? Will it be Iran? Israel? China? Do the small minority countries get a seat at this table?

They are all UN members and can democratically vote on decisions.

It’s all such a nonsensical idea. It’s Tower of Babel absurdity. “We’re all one people!” “Aren’t we great?” “Who needs God?”

Look at South Africa, it was via the UN that that country's leaders were forced to abandon white minority rule, that's an example of the collective use of pressure to bring about the end of an unjust political system, surely that was a good outcome?

Do you think it better to try actively prevent a recurrence of say the holocaust or not? would you say "**** it not my problem" or do you think that some effort could be made to avert such a catastrophe?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

They burned a BLM flag.

Right so what punishment do you think was appropriate for what they did that night?

 

[Foxfyre]

Right so what punishment do you think was appropriate for what they did that night?

The same as for every leftist group out that night. Those committing violence or real harm, charge them. At the very most, if burning that flag was all the Proud Boys did, they should be required to apologize to the Church folks and replace the flag. A $2+ million dollar fine is in absolutely no way appropriate for so little an offense.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The same as for every leftist group out that night. Those committing violence or real harm, charge them. At the very most, if burning that flag was all the Proud Boys did, they should be required to apologize to the Church folks and replace the flag. A $2+ million dollar fine is in absolutely no way appropriate for so little an offense.

So just pay a few bucks for terrorizing black people, that's a great idea, they'd never do that again with that kind of harsh punishment would they.

They terrorized the people in the church - I don't think you have any idea what fear that might induce in black people, what consequences that might have for a community.

The role of punishment is to prevent and discourage repetition of a crime, not make it a pay-to-play parlor game.

Anyway I'm satisfied that you're a racist now, of that I have no doubt.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

To an idiot yes.

Right he's a venture capitalist not a genius.

Newton wasn't a venture capitalist, Einstein wasn't a venture capitalist, Von Neumann wasn't a venture capitalist, Erdosh wasn't a venture capitalist, Michelangelo wasn't a venture capitalist - are you getting all this or am I typing too fast?

When Geniuses Swallow Their Pride, They Choke Their Talent

Corporate patents are Grand Larceny and inhibit scientista' ability to create. Plutocrats throw money at the activities of the truly productive and think they own it. The reason they have to cheat employee-inventors blind is that their many ignorant failed guesses on what to invest in would leave them bankrupt otherwise.

If the inventors got 50% of the patent's value, pretty soon they would be the only investors because only they have the brains to know what to invest in.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

“ZIONISM” is just nationalism for Jews.

Should Jews be allowed to have a Jewish state? Yes or no?

You are fine with Islamic states. We don’t see lefties like you demanding they embrace multiculturalism.

What do you think happens to the Jews if Israel allows Muslims to become citizens and they take on mass Muslim immigration? They’ll be destroyed, and you know it. That’s an odd way to “stand with Jews”.

Allahcaust

He stands with the Jews who waited in line outside the gas chambers.

 

[Foxfyre]

So just pay a few bucks for terrorizing black people, that's a great idea, they'd never do that again with that kind of harsh punishment would they.

They terrorized the people in the church - I don't think you have any idea what fear that might induce in black people, what consequences that might have for a community.

The role of punishment is to prevent and discourage repetition of a crime, not make it a pay-to-play parlor game.

Anyway I'm satisfied that you're a racist now, of that I have no doubt.

There is no evidence anybody was terrorized. There is only propaganda spewed by a media that is far more dishonest than honest.

 

[theHawk]

Look at South Africa, it was via the UN that that country's leaders were forced to abandon white minority rule, that's an example of the collective use of pressure to bring about the end of an unjust political system, surely that was a good outcome?

Do you think it better to try actively prevent a recurrence of say the holocaust or not? would you say "**** it not my problem" or do you think that some effort could be made to avert such a catastrophe

LOL and look how that turned out for South Africa. The nation that white people built has been decimated into a third world shit hole that hunts and kills whites.

It’s the perfect example of what Marxist loving socialists want to do to the whole Western world. That’s why you support importing Muslims and Africans and all non-whites to flood into Western countries. So someday the whites will be outnumbered by non-whites, who will then proceed directly to persecuting whites, stealing their wealth, and eventually genocide them out of existence.

Then you have the gall to ask about “allowing a Holocaust” to happen, when you just defended white genocide in SA. Oh but it’s not genocide because it’s “legal”, right?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Interesting to see how this thread has devolved into talking about Jews, Zionism and Israel.

Afram Hamas

They Jew-obsessed flunkies of the RichKid Reich are trying to hide the fact that the Proud Boys did nothing wrong in punishing a "church" full of bloodthirsty BLM savages and drug dealers. No wonder Shylock supports Hamas.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

LOL and look how that turned out for South Africa. The nation that white people built has been decimated into a third world shit hole that hunts and kills whites.

So you approve of only letting white skinned people rule - fine, that's not a surprise, many white's in the 1950s and 1960s US also warned of the negative effects of eliminating segregation.

It's a tired trope "white people built" when in reality black people did the work under the yoke of the brutal white colonizers. Early South Africa relied on slavery, it's bad enough bringing blacks out of Africa to make them slaves but making black already in Africa slaves, is a new low.

It’s the perfect example of what Marxist loving socialists want to do to the whole Western world.

Please elaborate, what do you mean "Marxist loving" and why is that no better than "Capitalist loving"?

That’s why you support importing Muslims and Africans and all non-whites to flood into Western countries.

Where did I express support for that?

So someday the whites will be outnumbered by non-whites, who will then proceed directly to persecuting whites, stealing their wealth, and eventually genocide them out of existence.

I think I hear a similar view once, yes, it was in Mein Kampf. So how do you propose we - in the USA - react to the growth of the dark skinned population?

Do you think the USA would have been better in some way, if the segregation laws had been kept in place?

Then you have the gall to ask about “allowing a Holocaust” to happen, when you just defended white genocide in SA. Oh but it’s not genocide because it’s “legal”, right?

Well you never answered my question about the Holocaust, you're just using my question as a segue to another fabrication, that I "defended white genocide". Never have I defended genocide, go and look, find such a post.

The Nazis designated the Jews as a threat, they wrote extensively about it just as European Christians had written about it for many centuries. They then acted to address that threat and we know what happened, but anyway, here's the question again:

Do you think it better to try to actively prevent a recurrence of say the holocaust or not? can I get a "yes" or "no" perhaps?

Its clear that your an imperialist and approve of colonization, that's one more thing we disagree about.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

There is no evidence anybody was terrorized. There is only propaganda spewed by a media that is far more dishonest than honest.

The black people at the church witnessed the event.

 

[Foxfyre]

The black people at the church witnessed the event.

Witnessing and being terrorized are two different things.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Witnessing and being terrorized are two different things.

There was also footage.

 

[Foxfyre]

There was also footage.

Then post the footage demonstrating that people were terrified. Should be easy to do if you aren't talking through your hat.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Then post the footage demonstrating that people were terrified. Should be easy to do if you aren't talking through your hat.

The jury saw the evidence, that's all you need to know.

 

[Foxfyre]

Just saw this on Twitter and I missed him all over again. Rush indeed would have some of the best commentary of his life right now if he hadn't left us far too soon. His daily program pulled together all the important political news of the day. Nobody sense has had quite that much of a finger on the pulse of the nation or ability to do that with such entertaining common sense and humor.

Mark Levin probably comes the closest and I love his take on things, but he doesn't have Rush's sense of humor or entertaining delivery. Or Rush's voice.

 

[The Duke]

Maybe these weirdos will get proper jobs now and stop pretending they're Nazi stormtroopers.

Good to see some good old fashioned law and order:

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Far-right group Proud Boys loses legal naming rights to Black church it vandalized

Church said extremist group never paid $2.8m court judgment over 2020 attack during Trump rally

www.theguardian.com

Can it, Bodey.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

So you approve of only letting white skinned people rule - fine, that's not a surprise, many white's in the 1950s and 1960s US also warned of the negative effects of eliminating segregation.

It's a tired trope "white people built" when in reality black people did the work under the yoke of the brutal white colonizers. Early South Africa relied on slavery, it's bad enough bringing blacks out of Africa to make them slaves but making black already in Africa slaves, is a new low.

Please elaborate, what do you mean "Marxist loving" and why is that no better than "Capitalist loving"?

Where did I express support for that?

I think I hear a similar view once, yes, it was in Mein Kampf. So how do you propose we - in the USA - react to the growth of the dark skinned population?

Do you think the USA would have been better in some way, if the segregation laws had been kept in place?

Well you never answered my question about the Holocaust, you're just using my question as a segue to another fabrication, that I "defended white genocide". Never have I defended genocide, go and look, find such a post.

The Nazis designated the Jews as a threat, they wrote extensively about it just as European Christians had written about it for many centuries. They then acted to address that threat and we know what happened, but anyway, here's the question again:

Do you think it better to try to actively prevent a recurrence of say the holocaust or not? can I get a "yes" or "no" perhaps?

Its clear that your an imperialist and approve of colonization, that's one more thing we disagree about.

You make some decent points about the Israel Palestine issue. But all everything else you’re talking about with regards to race you’re 100 years late man. And even then every country of the world in the 1900s experienced problems. Ethiopia an independent African country had legalized slavery until ironically fascist Italy ended it when they occupied Ethiopia in 1937. So that’s just the historical fact.

The modern day Democrat party is feminized, they are very weak, they’re lazy. They want other peoples money. Truly, they’re a disgrace to the great Democrats of history like Franklin Roosevelt or Henry Wallace.

I’m proud as an American to realize that blacks in America were part of the middle class in the 1950s. They worked at Bethlehem Steel and at Ford motor Company. I know this everyone in America knows this who worked the factory jobs or whose older relatives worked at the steel or Auto plants. It’s something to be very proud of. Blacks had managerial top positions at Ford Motor Company in the 1950s.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You make some decent points about the Israel Palestine issue. But all everything else you’re talking about with regards to race you’re 100 years late man. And even then every country of the world in the 1900s experienced problems. Ethiopia an independent African country had legalized slavery until ironically fascist Italy ended it when they occupied Ethiopia in 1937. So that’s just the historical fact.

The modern day Democrat party is feminized, they are very weak, they’re lazy. They want other peoples money. Truly, they’re a disgrace to the great Democrats of history like Franklin Roosevelt or Henry Wallace.

I'm sure there are problems with the democrat party, I have no doubt. But that doesn't mean I must condone what's unfolding now under Trump. He creates chaos, he is a trouble maker and sows confusion rather than clarity, division rather that unity.

I’m proud as an American to realize that blacks in America were part of the middle class in the 1950s. They worked at Bethlehem Steel and at Ford motor Company. I know this everyone in America knows this who worked the factory jobs or whose older relatives worked at the steel or Auto plants. It’s something to be very proud of. Blacks had managerial top positions at Ford Motor Company in the 1950s.

 

[Foxfyre]

The jury saw the evidence, that's all you need to know.

A weaponized government handpicks juries to deliver the verdict it wants. Sorry, you're just not convincing as you seem to have nothing to go on but your own opinion. Do have a pleasant day.