Goodbye Proud Boys

[theHawk]

That's not true, I am not an advocate of states based on Sharia laws for example.

If Palestine were to come into existence, like so many of you anti-Zionists want, would it be ruled by Islamic law? Yes or no.

 

[theHawk]

Many Muslim majority countries are multicultural

The only instances that Muslims allow non-Muslims in their countries is when it is under strict oppressive rule, and in a manner that contains them to such a small number that minority can never become a threat, and they always have restricted rights.

Israel technically has Arab Muslims as citizens. Do you call them “multicultural”? LOL.

 

[Hollie]

Another idiot.

Show me the footage from even ONE of those four examples, that shows this gesture being made:



If you do that then I will agree that those other people made a Nazi salute - get to it, lets see what you come up with.

Really, Ahmed. You specifically should understand the video was not a Nazi salute.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

If Palestine were to come into existence, like so many of you anti-Zionists want, would it be ruled by Islamic law? Yes or no.

That isn't what I want.

I'd like Israel to start obeying the law, that's the first ask here, start obeying the law that we expect other nations to obey (and who we bomb when they disobey - like Iraq).

The region is infected by neo-Zionism and that is a huge problem and that is the source of all the violence.

Imagine trying to co-exist with Nazi Germany, was that possible? did we try? what happened when we tried?

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Interesting to see how this thread has devolved into talking about Jews, Zionism and Israel.

 

[Hollie]

That isn't what I want.

I'd like Israel to start obeying the law, that's the first ask here, start obeying the law that we expect other nations to obey (and who we bomb when they disobey - like Iraq).

The region is infected by neo-Zionism and that is a huge problem and that is the source of all the violence.

Imagine trying to co-exist with Nazi Germany, was that possible? did we try? what happened when we tried?

How does anyone co-exist with a politico- religious ideology that wants your destruction? The wars of aggression fought by Islamic nations are a function of islamist ideology. Israel actually does try to co-exist with islamism. It is islamism which is the problem.

 

[theHawk]

Well I could ask what do you think would happen of Palestinian Arabs allowed Zionist Jews to mass immigrate to Palestine? They'd be destroyed and that's precisely what happened if you take a good long hard look at the past hundreds years history of Palestine.

That’s right, they allowed invaders to take over their land, the British. Who in turn flooded it with Eastern European Jews.

They were too weak to defend themselves, so their country stopped existing. That’s what happens when you lose wars and are too weak.

Muslims did it to countless peoples ever since the days of the pedophile prophet. But you’re fine with all the land they conquered with the sword. You’re fine with all the slaves they took. You’re fine with all their bloody history. But for some reason, the Israelis’ bloody history is more offensive to you.

 

[theHawk]

That isn't what I want.

I'd like Israel to start obeying the law, that's the first ask here, start obeying the law that we expect other nations to obey (and who we bomb when they disobey - like Iraq).

The region is infected by neo-Zionism and that is a huge problem and that is the source of all the violence.

Imagine trying to co-exist with Nazi Germany, was that possible? did we try? what happened when we tried?

No one cares what you want. Just because you want something, you think those people are going to listen to you? We saw what “Palestinians” would do if they were allowed to be in Israel, we saw it on Oct 7th. Not just the terrorists that did the raping, kidnapping, and murdering of men, women, and babies, but also all the Palestinians back in Gaza who cheerleading the whole thing. Not one protester could be found in the whole of Gaza.

Israel to obey what law? They are a nation. They do what is their best interest. There is no international police force to enforce any idiotic “international laws”.

The source of violence is their nationalism and wanting to exist as a nation for only their people? LOL. No. The source of violence is that both people want the land, and are willing to fight for it. So let them fight. Oh we have, and Israel won. Losing wars has consequences, namely you don’t get the land you wanted. That’s called reality, you should try accepting it some day.

Not sure what Nazi Germany has to do with anything. Unless of course you are trying to say Israel is no different than the Nazis? But let’s see, do the Jews really want to exterminate people all around them and expand a huge empire? History doesn’t show that. The Muslims on the other hand have acted like Nazis, ever since the days of Muhammed. People tried to live peacefully next to Muslim for hundreds of years, typically doesn’t work out well. I’d say your Nazi Germany comparison is much more applicable to the Muslims instead of the Jews.

I say all of this as a Christian who does not like anti-Christs like the Jews. I think most Jews are godless, Marxist loving commies, who promote “multiculturalism” in the Christian Western nations in order to destroy us. I’d be much happier if they all returned to Israel and left Western culture to us Christians. Maybe that’s why you hate the idea of Israel. You’d rather they stay in Western countries undermining Christian culture and you hope someday they can destroy it with cultural Marxism.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

That’s right, they allowed invaders to take over their land, the British. Who in turn flooded it with Eastern European Jews.

Who "allowed"? Palestine was under Ottoman rule, the British told the leaders of the various Arab clans that Britain would support the creation of an independent Palestinian state IF the Arabs helped take the territory from the Ottomans. But the British betrayed them and instead by the time the British had the mandate (from the league of nations) the Balfour agreement became public and this enraged the Arabs. The British treaty with the Arabs was abandoned, which the Arabs saw as treachery and it was, you can read about the promises Britain made, look for McMahon–Hussein Correspondence.

They were too weak to defend themselves, so their country stopped existing. That’s what happens when you lose wars and are too weak.

I have no idea what "war" you're speaking of. The Arabs were successful in displacing the Ottomans, they won.

Muslims did it to countless peoples ever since the days of the pedophile prophet. But you’re fine with all the land they conquered with the sword. You’re fine with all the slaves they took. You’re fine with all their bloody history. But for some reason, the Israelis’ bloody history is more offensive to you.

You have a poor understanding, you can either educate yourself more about this or you can continue to parrot the cowboys and indians narrative that is the popular view espoused by the Zionist and United States, that's your choice.

A pretty good overview of this history is here, worth reading and cross checking against encyclopedias and so on, as I do.

How Britain Destroyed the Palestinian Homeland

100 years since Balfour's "promise", Palestinians insist that their rights in Palestine cannot be dismissed.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

No one cares what you want. Just because you want something, you think those people are going to listen to you? We saw what “Palestinians” would do if they were allowed to be in Israel, we saw it on Oct 7th. Not just the terrorists that did the raping, kidnapping, and murdering of men, women, and babies, but also all the Palestinians back in Gaza who cheerleading the whole thing. Not one protester could be found in the whole of Gaza.

Israel to obey what law? They are a nation. They do what is their best interest. There is no international police force to enforce any idiotic “international laws”.

The source of violence is their nationalism and wanting to exist as a nation for only their people? LOL. No. The source of violence is that both people want the land, and are willing to fight for it. So let them fight. Oh we have, and Israel won. Losing wars has consequences, namely you don’t get the land you wanted. That’s called reality, you should try accepting it some day.

Not sure what Nazi Germany has to do with anything. Unless of course you are trying to say Israel is no different than the Nazis? But let’s see, do the Jews really want to exterminate people all around them and expand a huge empire? History doesn’t show that. The Muslims on the other hand have acted like Nazis, ever since the days of Muhammed. People tried to live peacefully next to Muslim for hundreds of years, typically doesn’t work out well. I’d say your Nazi Germany comparison is much more applicable to the Muslims instead of the Jews.

I say all of this as a Christian who does not like anti-Christs like the Jews. I think most Jews are godless, Marxist loving commies, who promote “multiculturalism” in the Christian Western nations in order to destroy us. I’d be much happier if they all returned to Israel and left Western culture to us Christians. Maybe that’s why you hate the idea of Israel. You’d rather they stay in Western countries undermining Christian culture and you hope someday they can destroy it with cultural Marxism.

We'll never reach any agreement here, your disdain for international law makes that clear, you're attitude is simplistic, naive and based on nothing more that the "might is right" attitude which ushered in WW1 and WW2, so enjoy your day, I'm done with this fake debate.

 

[tshrimp]

I refuse to show respect for people who debate dishonestly and unintelligently.

So yes, I'll call someone an idiot because I'm not going to get a mature honest discourse but just parroting the same old trumpanzee word games as Trump and Musk and the other lunatics.

Of course I'm "left" in my politics, what of it? this is (was) a democracy.

LOL. So in other words... you have no self respect .

Edit: BTW...we are a republic.

 

[Orangecat]

Another day, another Surecuck irrelevant emo thread.

 

[d0gbreath]

Might I suggest 'The Loser Boys'?

 

[Marener]

And this will last as long as it takes to appeal.

They attacked a banner. That's worth 2.8M?

The decision awarding $2.8 million was in 2023. I’m not a lawyer but I don’t think you can appeal a case that is 1.5 years old.

This case is just about enforcing that decision because the deadbeats didn’t pay their bills.

 

[Delldude]

This is from the law firm that represented the victims:

View attachment 1074427

Paul, Weiss Files New Lawsuit to Enforce $2.8 Million Judgment Against Proud Boys

Paul, Weiss and co-counsel the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law filed a lawsuit to enforce a $2.8 million judgment against the Proud Boys and its leaders. The judgment was awarded in 2023 to our client, the Metropolitan African Methodist Episcopal Church, one of Washington’s most...

www.paulweiss.com

22,000 members, wow..............0.00006666666% of the US population. 7.6% of the population identify as LBGTQ..............

 

[Delldude]

I’m not a lawyer but I don’t think you can appeal a case that is 1.5 years old.

Depends on the SOL in that state.

 

[martybegan]

The decision awarding $2.8 million was in 2023. I’m not a lawyer but I don’t think you can appeal a case that is 1.5 years old.

This case is just about enforcing that decision because the deadbeats didn’t pay their bills.

Appeals take longer than that. far longer.

Like the Guiliani case where they tried to make an 80 year old homeless for 2 years then all of a sudden settled when things had to go out into open court?

 

[Marener]

Appeals take longer than that. far longer.

Like the Guiliani case where they tried to make an 80 year old homeless for 2 years then all of a sudden settled when things had to go out into open court?

Was there ever an appeal in the first place? It would seem unlikely since they wouldn't be having court cases to enforce the ruling in the midst of an ongoing appeal.

Giuliani had already tried to appeal the ruling and it failed. Everything after that was a protracted legal battle where Giuliani was playing games with the court system and behaving in a very unprofessional if not unlawful manner.

Rudy Giuliani Georgia defamation appeal denied: Judge upholds multi-million-dollar ruling

Rudy Giuliani's motion to appeal a judgment that awarded $148 million in damages to two former Georgia election workers for defamation has been denied.

www.fox5atlanta.com

 

[Marener]

Depends on the SOL in that state.

How to Appeal a Decision or Order to the DC Court of Appeals | District of Columbia Courts

www.dccourts.gov

30 days.

Cmon guys, are you really that poorly informed and lack common sense? Do you really just reach for the easiest bullshit line you can think of?

 

[Delldude]

30 days.

Was there ever an appeal in the first place?

If you were referring to filing an initial case, it would depend on the SOL.