Goodbye CDC, Goodbye Country

[SweetTea]

I don't think being gay means you "have a problem".

I don't know about "a problem", but it is an anomaly. Again, that is rather obvious.

 

[martybegan]

You demand we treat your opinions with respect as though they aren’t coming from a hate filled narcissist.

As you stated, we don’t have to tolerate people like you if we don’t want to.

Where am I demanding that?

toleration is what should be asked, your side demands acceptance and forced celebration.

 

[Marener]

I don't know about "a problem", but it is an anomaly. Again, that is rather obvious.

Calling something abnormal implies it’s a defect and a pejorative.

Human physiology is full of normal variants, things that are different, less common, but function normally.

 

[SweetTea]

Calling something abnormal implies it’s a defect and a pejorative.

Human physiology is full of normal variants, things that are different, less common, but function normally.

Yeah, it most certainly is a defect. Isn't that rather obvious? Men weren't designed to have sex with other men nor women with other women. Again, that doesn't mean they should be condemned necessarily, but to pretend it is normal is dishonest. Normalizing the behavior is not the answer.

 

[martybegan]

Yeah, it most certainly is a defect. Isn't that rather obvious? Men weren't designed to have sex with other men nor women with other women. Again, that doesn't mean they should be condemned necessarily, but to pretend it is normal is dishonest. Normalizing the behavior is not the answer.

I usually use the term "default" condition to describe heterosexuality.

just like the default condition of humans is the humanoid form, (two arms, two legs, two eyes, bipedal etc)

 

[Marener]

Yeah, it most certainly is a defect. Isn't that rather obvious? Men weren't designed to have sex with other men nor women with other women. Again, that doesn't mean they should be condemned necessarily, but to pretend it is normal is dishonest. Normalizing the behavior is not the answer.

What is the problem with normalizing being gay? Seems like it's a pretty good answer to me.

You don't actually think that mental health professionals should be trying to convince gay people they're not actually gay, do you?

 

[SweetTea]

What is the problem with normalizing being gay? Seems like it's a pretty good answer to me.

You don't actually think that mental health professionals should be trying to convince gay people they're not actually gay, do you?

I think that normalizing it leads to more of it. Yes, indeed, they aren't born gay.

 

[Marener]

I think that normalizing it leads to more of it. Yes, indeed, they aren't born gay.

Why are you concerned that there could be “more of it”?

 

[SweetTea]

Why are you concerned that there could be “more of it”?

Because it isn't conducive for a society to be successful. Duh?

Why are you concerned that there may be less of it?

 

[Marener]

Because it isn't conducive for a society to be successful. Duh?

Why are you concerned that there may be less of it?

I’m not trolling. I’m genuinely trying to understand your point of view.

How is being gay not "conducive for a society to be successful"?

I don't think normalizing being gay creates more gay people. I don't think suppressing gay people is good for their mental and emotional well being.

 

[SweetTea]

I’m not trolling. I’m genuinely trying to understand your point of view.

How is being gay not "conducive for a society to be successful"?

I don't think normalizing being gay creates more gay people. I don't think suppressing gay people is good for their mental and emotional well being.

For starters, we wouldn't procreate without intervention. Are you also in favor or incest? Why or why not? It probably wouldn't be good for the mental or emotional well being for those who prefer to practice incest.

You likely believe that gay people are born gay. I disagree. I believe it is triggered generally in childhood, before puberty, but of course there are many adults who have epiphanies and decide they all of a sudden they like men or women of the same sex or both. Of course, many gay people will say they have always known they were gay, but that is because the triggers to make them attracted to those of the same sex were set in place before they even started thinking about sexual attraction. Most certainly, exposure at a young age to that type of behavior can be a trigger. It is pretty clear to me that environmental factors play a large role in sexual development. Normalizing and even encouraging unnatural behavior makes no sense to me.

 

[Marener]

For starters, we wouldn't procreate without intervention. Are you also in favor or incest? Why or why not? It probably wouldn't be good for the mental or emotional well being for those who prefer to practice incest.

You likely believe that gay people are born gay. I disagree. I believe it is triggered generally in childhood, before puberty, but of course there are many adults who have epiphanies and decide they all of a sudden they like men or women of the same sex or both. Of course, many gay people will say they have always known they were gay, but that is because the triggers to make them attracted to those of the same sex were set in place before they even started thinking about sexual attraction. Most certainly, exposure at a young age to that type of behavior can be a trigger. It is pretty clear to me that environmental factors play a large role in sexual development. Normalizing and even encouraging unnatural behavior makes no sense to me.

Sure, gay couples can’t procreate without intervention but we have interventions. Therefore, it isn’t going to be limiting factor.

I take it you believe that legalization and recognition of gay marriage is bad for society?

 

[SweetTea]

I take it you believe that legalization and recognition of gay marriage is bad for society?

I'm not sure how it can be considered good for society.

 

[Marener]

I'm not sure how it can be considered good for society.

What makes you so sure that the existence of gay people is a trigger to make kids gay?

 

[Unkotare]

For starters, we wouldn't procreate without intervention. Are you also in favor or incest? Why or why not? It probably wouldn't be good for the mental or emotional well being for those who prefer to practice incest.

You likely believe that gay people are born gay. I disagree. I believe it is triggered generally in childhood, before puberty, but of course there are many adults who have epiphanies and decide they all of a sudden they like men or women of the same sex or both. Of course, many gay people will say they have always known they were gay, but that is because the triggers to make them attracted to those of the same sex were set in place before they even started thinking about sexual attraction. Most certainly, exposure at a young age to that type of behavior can be a trigger. It is pretty clear to me that environmental factors play a large role in sexual development. Normalizing and even encouraging unnatural behavior makes no sense to me.

Hhhhhmmmmmm.....

 

[Unkotare]

I'm not sure how it can be considered good for society.

Didn’t you say many times here that you are a small woman?

 

[SweetTea]

What makes you so sure that the existence of gay people is a trigger to make kids gay?

What makes you sure that it isn't?

 

[SweetTea]

Didn’t you say many times here that you are a small woman?

I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Marener]

What makes you sure that it isn't?

The fact that lots of gay people have emerged from societies where people weren’t allowed to be openly gay.

But you didn’t answer the question.

Are you just guessing?

 

[SweetTea]

The fact that lots of gay people have emerged from societies where people weren’t allowed to be openly gay.

But you didn’t answer the question.

Are you just guessing?

Nope, not guessing at all. Why do people think they are heterosexual and then later in life decide they are homosexual? Environmental factors are at play, that's why.

You are just assuming they are born that way, because it justifies your argument. The more likely reason, based on evidence at hand, is that it is a learned trait, albeit a subconscious one.