Goodbye CDC, Goodbye Country

[CrusaderFrank]

Why did the CDC suppress the connection between Hep B Vaccine to kids under 2 and increased autism?

 

[SweetTea]

There is basically no difference between MAGA Republicans and Islamic fundamentalists. They are both radicalized, crazy, religious groups that don't believe in science and are still stuck in the 9th century.

Don't believe in science? You mean like a boy thinking he is a girl is just a variant, like being left-handed, vs a mental disorder? Right, we don't believe that because we aren't naive. Don't think for one minute that ideology doesn't play into today's science.

 

[Marener]

And yet you refuse to retort or answer it, because your SJW hivemind forbids it.

Because it’s a pointless distraction about an issue you fully understand.

Even if you find both statements equally bizarre, why do you support RFK Jr when he says something on the level of the idea of being transgendered?

 

[Marener]

Don't believe in science? You mean like a boy thinking he is a girl is just a variant, like being left-handed, vs a mental disorder? Right, we don't believe that because we aren't naive. Don't think for one minute that ideology doesn't play into today's science.

As anyone can tell you, there’s a massive difference between psychology and harder sciences like microbiology and immunology.

Yes, politics plays a part for some people, but not all. By the time someone has devoted the vast majority of their life to a particular topic, politics is not an issue.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Don't believe in science? You mean like a boy thinking he is a girl is just a variant, like being left-handed, vs a mental disorder? Right, we don't believe that because we aren't naive. Don't think for one minute that ideology doesn't play into today's science.

No, like you bumpkin imbeciles not believing in life-saving vaccines.

Go back to your 9th century cave, MAGA troll.

 

[martybegan]

Because it’s a pointless distraction about an issue you fully understand.

Even if you find both statements equally bizarre, why do you support RFK Jr when he says something on the level of the idea of being transgendered?

And an issue you guys dodge like a dodgeball. Then you dip, duck and dive.

and dodge.

I don't have to support every single thing he says to support other things he is doing. Thats a false standard you idiots apply all the time.

 

[Hafar1014]

Lawsuits and prosecutions of Trump were based in fact.

Not that you guys know anything about that.

You believe any of the crazy shit on the internet.

So how come they all collapsed or were dismissed. The only fact was democrats used the law to stop a candidate they feared to support a candidate with a damaged brain. So how did that work out

 

[SweetTea]

By the time someone has devoted the vast majority of their life to a particular topic, politics is not an issue.

It most certainly is when they have been indoctrinated by a specific political ideology since grade school, particularly in the field of psychology, which, as you point out, is not a hard science.

 

[Marener]

It most certainly is when they have been indoctrinated by a specific political ideology since grade school, particularly in the field of psychology, which, as you point out, is not a hard science.

Simply blaming “political ideology” is just such a lazy way for you guys to ignore anything you don’t want to believe.

In truth, you don’t know anything about the people you’re accusing nor do you have any actual knowledge of the work they’re doing, it’s strengths or weaknesses.

All you really know is that you don’t want to believe it so you slap a label on them and ignore it.

The right, especially MAGA, is largely intellectually bankrupt.

 

[SweetTea]

No, like you bumpkin imbeciles not believing in life-saving vaccines.

Go back to your 9th century cave, MAGA troll.

I believe in medicine and vaccines in general. I am not however naive enough to believe that they are not guided by money. You and your ilk are. You blindly follow, like good little lemmings.

 

[Marener]

So how come they all collapsed or were dismissed.

Two reasons. One, Trump’s loyal judges changed the rules to suit Trump and two, he won the presidency which means that the DoJ is not allowed to prosecute Trump.

 

[Marener]

I believe in medicine and vaccines in general. I am not however naive enough to believe that they are not guided by money. You and your ilk are. You blindly follow, like good little lemmings.

Medicine does than any other field to strip out the bias induced by money. The current crop of cranks and wellness influencers that seem to dominate the Trump administration’s department of health are equally driven by profit motivation, it’s just that they pretend they aren’t.

 

[Marener]

And an issue you guys dodge like a dodgeball. Then you dip, duck and dive.

and dodge.

I don't have to support every single thing he says to support other things he is doing. Thats a false standard you idiots apply all the time.

That’s exactly the kind of standard you apply to others. You feel justified in ignoring anything anyone says if they simply support gender affirming care.

It’s why you’re obsessed with bringing it up anytime anyone says anything you don’t agree with.

 

[martybegan]

That’s exactly the kind of standard you apply to others. You feel justified in ignoring anything anyone says if they simply support gender affirming care.

It’s why you’re obsessed with bringing it up anytime anyone says anything you don’t agree with.

I don't apply any standards to anyone, I just refute your bullshit.

I bring it up as an example of your hypocrisy and inability to respond to the statement.

 

[SweetTea]

Simply blaming “political ideology” is just such a lazy way for you guys to ignore anything you don’t want to believe.

In truth, you don’t know anything about the people you’re accusing nor do you have any actual knowledge of the work they’re doing, it’s strengths or weaknesses.

All you really know is that you don’t want to believe it so you slap a label on them and ignore it.

The right, especially MAGA, is largely intellectually bankrupt.

Look, most psychiatrists identify as leftists. They have been following the lead of the left-wing ideology for years. Much like leftists Supreme Court justices, they start with a conclusion and cherry pick evidence to support that conclusion. Their reasoning is selective and politically motivated.

 

[Marener]

I don't apply any standards to anyone, I just refute your bullshit.

I bring it up as an example of your hypocrisy and inability to respond to the statement.

It’s your attempt to change the subject away from something inconvenient to an entirely different topic. We can be talking about anything and your response will be to ignore anything I’ll say because of transgender policy.

It’s intellectual dishonesty you’re engaging.

You can’t defend RFK Jr so you’ll change the subject.

 

[martybegan]

It’s your attempt to change the subject away from something inconvenient to an entirely different topic. We can be talking about anything and your response will be to ignore anything I’ll say because of transgender policy.

It’s intellectual dishonesty you’re engaging.

You can’t defend RFK Jr so you’ll change the subject.

No, it's my go to for pointing out you idiots when you scream science as a talisman, then ignore basic biology.

So far he is just talking about doing stuff. I want to see what results he gets.

 

[Marener]

Look, most psychiatrists identify as leftists. They have been following the lead of the left-wing ideology for years. Much like leftists Supreme Court justices, they start with a conclusion and cherry pick evidence to support that conclusion. Their reasoning is selective and politically motivated.

Do you think MAGA doesn’t do that? Do you think RFK Jr doesn’t do that?

Medical science isn’t perfect, but the truth wins out almost always. It’s well designed to correct itself. It’s not always quick, but it gets there.

RFK Jr isn’t a medical professional. He’s a lawyer. A lawyer is trained to pick a side and defend it. That’s exactly what he’s doing. Vaccines cause autism. That’s his side. They blamed thermisol. When they took it out of vaccines and autism still occurred at the same rate, his response was, well it’s something else in the vaccine then.

This is the guy who is running the CDC and firing anyone who won’t agree with him.

 

[Marener]

No, it's my go to for pointing out you idiots when you scream science as a talisman, then ignore basic biology.

So far he is just talking about doing stuff. I want to see what results he gets.

But we aren’t ignoring basic biology.

RFK Jr isn’t just ignoring basic biology, he’s just making up biology and we are supposed to pretend that is normal. Putting a crank in charge of HHS is not a “wait and see” kind of thing.

 

[martybegan]

But we aren’t ignoring basic biology.

RFK Jr isn’t just ignoring basic biology, he’s just making up biology and we are supposed to pretend that is normal. Putting a crank in charge of HHS is not a “wait and see” kind of thing.

Yes, you are.

A crank like the guy who didn't want to say "hey maybe cool off on the gay orgies" during monkeypox?

The CDC’s in-your-face double standards lost America’s trust — winning it back will be tough

This is a man who made himself famous by posing on a magazine cover wearing a leather pentagram harness, and showed off his bondage-gear collection in numerous publicly distributed photos.

Daskalakis ran the Biden administration’s weak response to the monkeypox outbreak — pushing to rename the illness “mpox” for reasons of political correctness.

Although he and other government experts were aware that the disease was spreading mostly via sex parties in the gay community, they chose to downplay that fact for fear of “stigma” and pretend that every American was equally at risk.

“Political correctness and a desire not to offend drove the messaging and public health response,” the Oversight Project, a government watchdog, found in 2023: “Officials were primarily concerned with not stigmatizing (mpox carriers), the exact opposite of the COVID response.”