Zone1 Good morning from Europe

[frigidweirdo]

Are you talking to me? Specifically? That's hilarious since my BMI is 18

No, I'm replying to what you wrote.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Well by economy, the UK ranks BELOW every single red state.

List of U.S. states and territories by GDP - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

GDP nominal

UK $4,264,794 million (IMF) or $3,600,000 million by UN and World Bank

US states by GDP

1) California $4,048,108 million. Depending on who you're talking to, California could be ahead or behind the UK in GDP.
2) Texas $2,000,000 million, way behind the UK.


10) North Carolina $893,000 million. Way behind the UK.

According to the World Bank, if the US didn't exist, and it was states, California would be 3rd in the world, the UK would be 6th, North Carolina 31st in the world.

Mississippi would be 95th in the World.

List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Per capita the UK is at $61,056

The World Bank says $52,637

According to the British government it's at £40,591 which is $54,000

Now, the problem here is what does it all mean?

Nominal Gross Domestic Product

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Nominal GDP Explained: Definition, Formula, Uses, and Limitations

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There are four approaches:

Expenditure Approach

GDP Deflator Approach

The Income Approach

Production (Value-Added) Approach

The World Bank uses The International Comparison Program (ICP).

Which is "comparisons of gross domestic product (GDP) are based on the value of an individual item equaling the product of its price and quantity (that is, the identity: value = price × quantity). Once more than one item is involved, the identity can no longer be expressed in terms of price × quantity. Therefore, in ICP terms, it becomes value = price × volume."

The UK government does this:

What is GDP?

It is perhaps the most widely discussed economic concept – but what is it and how do we measure it?

www.bankofengland.co.uk

"1) the total value of goods and services (output) produced
2) everyone in the country’s income
3) or what everyone in the country has spent"

"You get different figures depending on which method you use because there is never enough data to build a picture of the economy that is 100% complete."

So, it's a bit difficult to measure.

Take for example healthcare. A UK person doesn't usually pay for healthcare. So their wage looks much lower. In the UK people have to spend thousands on their healthcare. In fact the US federal government seems to spend more on healthcare than the UK govt does.

So, a US worker needs to earn more to reach the same standard of living as someone in the UK, because they don't need to spend as much each month.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

You do realise it was the Allies who hanged Streicher?

I disagree. We do not have Brown Shirts roaming the streets beating up Jews while police officers stand by and do nothing. We do not have fascists trying to intimidate Jewish quarters of cities

Once again another individual goes to the extreme.

Many many Muslim clerics and lay persons have condemned the actions of Islamic fanatics. But that challenges your prejudices. It was a Muslim that went to the aid of Jews being attacked on Bondi Beach last year and Muslims were among those that rescued and helped Jews during WW2.



Educate and integrate.

Yep, I knew you were just blowing smoke.

You are just part of the Orwellian hive mind.

 

[Hypatia415]

Yep, I knew you were just blowing smoke.

You are just part of the Orwellian hive mind.

Translation: You do not care to see your prejudices exposed for what they are.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Translation: You do not care to see your prejudices exposed for what they are.

You oppose free speech, yet you are using such to promote a subversive agenda that has nothing to do with upholding western values.

Your hypocrisy is on full display.

 

[Hypatia415]

You oppose free speech,

I think free speech has limits. Unless you are going endorse as their right to free speech all those speeches made by Hitler and Goebbels and all that Nazi propaganda equating Jews with bacteria or vermin. Oh and do not forget all those anti-Semitic cartoons that were so popular in Streicher's Der Stürmer

yet you are using such to promote a subversive agenda that has nothing to do with upholding western values.

What are western values?

Your hypocrisy is on full display.

Your bigotry is flagrant.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I think free speech has limits. Unless you are going endorse as their right to free speech all those speeches made by Hitler and Goebbels and all that Nazi propaganda equating Jews with bacteria or vermin. Oh and do not forget all those anti-Semitic cartoons that were so popular in Streicher's Der Stürmer

What are western values?

Your bigotry is flagrant.

If you actually believed speech has limits, you would not be acting as an apologist for the totalitarian ideology called Islam.

That you would call opposing such an anti-humanist and very much supremacist ideology an act of bigotry says all one needs to know about you.

 

[Hypatia415]

If you actually believed speech has limits, you would not be acting as an apologist for the totalitarian ideology called Islam.

That you would call opposing such an anti-humanist and very much supremacist ideology an act of bigotry says all one needs to know about you.

Once again you make sweeping generalisations about a religion that is found in numerous different countries and which, like all the Abrahamic faiths, has diverse opinions and variation among its practitioners.

Should I be as ridiculous as you are being and assume that all Christians across the globe are like Nick Fuentes or Vincent James Foxx who declares that he and those like him are the "Christian Taliban"?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Once again you make sweeping generalisations about a religion that is found in numerous different countries and which, like all the Abrahamic faiths, has diverse opinions and variation among its practitioners.

Should I be as ridiculous as you are being and assume that all Christians across the globe are like Nick Fuentes or Vincent James Foxx who declares that he and those like him are the "Christian Taliban"?

Yes, the speech you wish to criminalize is entirely dependant upon who is saying it and not what is being said.

 

[Stryder50]

Define "legitimate". International law? Geneva Conventions? A particular country's own legal system?

Nominally a country's own legal system since a "soldier" following orders has usually sworn to do so upon joining the military.

Shouldn't be that difficult to reason out if you understand and support individual nation's sovereignty.

 

[Hypatia415]

Nominally a country's own legal system since a "soldier" following orders has usually sworn to do so upon joining the military.

Shouldn't be that difficult to reason out if you understand and support individual nation's sovereignty.

By that logic the Einzatsgruppen and other German death squads were acting under the legal system of their individual nation's sovereignty

 

[Hypatia415]

Yes, the speech you wish to criminalize is entirely dependant upon who is saying it and not what is being said.

Do you think Nick Fuentes or Vincent James Foxx are representative of all Christians across the globe?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Do you think Nick Fuentes or Vincent James Foxx are representative of all Christians across the globe?

They do not follow the teachings of Jesus.

Islamists, on the other hand, DO follow the teachings of Mohammad.

All you know about Islam, though, is that you have been conditioned to defend it.

 

[Stryder50]

By that logic the Einzatsgruppen and other German death squads were acting under the legal system of their individual nation's sovereignty

Correct.
Same with regard to the many anti-Jew laws of the Nazi Regime.

Such is the conundrum of National Sovereignty and the ideal of not "meddling in the internal affairs of other nations".*

There are many nations in the world today which mimic your example, which violate many rights and freedoms established as common to the nations of the World. Basically found in the United Nation's Charter which members are expected to abide with, yet there are many members of the UN who don't, are as bad or worse than Nazi Germany.

BTW, see one of my signature lines.;
*We are all downwind and downstream to each other as we are upwind and upstream.

Very little done within a nation's borders stay within such.
Neighbors affect neighbors.
The eternal debate seems to be turn a blind eye, or intervene. ???

Example, both China and India use a lot of coal burning for electrical energy. Unfortunately they don't treat the flue, allowing real pollution to spread outside their borders and affect the world. A Western world where most apply Flue Gas DeSulfurization systems.
One could claim that China and India are engaged in deploying Environmental WMD since they spread results of their destructive methods around the planet

Flue-gas desulfurization - Wikipedia​

What Is Flue Gas Desulfurization? SO2 Removal Explained​

When used properly, FGD makes burning coal "clean" energy.

 

[Stryder50]

Do you think Nick Fuentes or Vincent James Foxx are representative of all Christians across the globe?

How many sects/flavors of Christians do you know of ?
Why do you lump all that diversity under one broad brush stroke of inaccuracy ?

 

[Hypatia415]

How many sects/flavors of Christians do you know of ?

How many branches of Islam are known to you?

Why do you lump all that diversity under one broad brush stroke of inaccuracy ?

That is precisely what you did with Muslims.

 

[Hypatia415]

They do not follow the teachings of Jesus.

They think they do and they can bring biblical verses to support their views.

Islamists, on the other hand, DO follow the teachings of Mohammad.

And?

All you know about Islam, though, is that you have been conditioned to defend it.

(sarcasm) Come on then "expert" enlighten us all.

 

[SweetSue92]

They do not follow the teachings of Jesus.

Islamists, on the other hand, DO follow the teachings of Mohammad.

All you know about Islam, though, is that you have been conditioned to defend it.

These women are so simple-thinking that all it takes for them is the brown skin and "exotic" outfits and they're slobbering all over Islam. Then get mad about it when the cognitive dissonance becomes too much, so join American forums where they can rag on some obscure pastors no one listens to.

Rinse and repeat.....

 

[Hypatia415]

These women are so simple-thinking that all it takes for them is the brown skin and "exotic" outfits and they're slobbering all over Islam. Then get mad about it when the cognitive dissonance becomes too much, so join American forums where they can rag on some obscure pastors no one listens to.

Rinse and repeat.....

And what do you know about Islam? It is one of the Abrahamic faiths, just like Christianity.

Nor am I defending Islam it has some vile manifestations, as has Christianity and Judaism, but I do not care for those who express Islamophobia; that irrational thinking is too close to anti-Semitism and we all know where that can lead.

 

[SweetSue92]

And what do you know about Islam? It is one of the Abrahamic faiths, just like Christianity.

Nor am I defending Islam it has some vile manifestations, as has Christianity and Judaism, but I do not care for those who express Islamophobia; that irrational thinking is too close to anti-Semitism and we all know where that can lead.

Yes, WE know where it can lead, but OUR people didn't do that. That's all over there on you, Europe. Right? That's first.

Second, since you came here apparently to bag on American "right wing" Christians, please tell us: do you also go to boards in Middle Eastern nations to bag on Islam? Is your time evenly spent, or did I pretty much hit the nail on the head?