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its not fixable is the problem
/-----/ Where will you get your food - the collective farm?I am indeed. I'm am so goddamn sick of statists who want government running everything. Please, please, fucking stop. How much power is enough for you people?It just doesn't need to be dictated by government. Period.
The chances of an entity that has the number one concern of stock price is never going to do what needs done. People should not have to die because a CEO didn't get a record bonus last year.
And they don't. Next feeble excuse?
There are many people who die because they can not afford preventive care. They can't afford a colonoscopy so their cancer doesn't get detected until it's causing problems. What makes no sense is that then the taxpayers will be on the hook and those costs are far higher than the preventive colonoscopy.
More excuses. It's all about control, so corporations and government can herd us into their pens. Fuck that.
Now you are just ranting.
Get some health care company to not put their stock prices as their number one concern and then maybe you can argue for that.
Never enough, eh?
Your argument makes no fucking sense. You complain because the health care market is dominated by a handful of wealthy corporations - corporations that became wealthy and dominant by colluding with government. Yet these corporations don't, yet, have the power to arrest and imprison people who defy them. Your solution: give all the power to one corporation that DOES have the power to arrest or imprison anyone who won't play along.
NO THANKS.
Actually I support getting rid of those corporations completely.
Where will you get your next PC and cell phone? The dumpster?
Make your own clothes, will ya?
its not fixable is the problem
Something had to be done. And a lot more still has to be done. You have a choice. You can work to fix the ACA like it was intended to be done in the first place (call it a rough draft, if you will) or you can come up with a better solution for the same problems. But it's going to be addressed with or without you inputs.
Complete bullshit. I've never used Obamacare since I'm a vet and have VA. Before I had VA, there was 30 years where I had private health insurance and 5 different insurers. Every one of them covered pre existing conditions.for PECs. They are not only for the ACA, they help all insurances except what tramp came out with short term plans, they only cover you if your young and healthy.
Short term plans were created to help fill temporary gaps in coverage that can occur in certain situations. These types of plans are typically not good substitutes for traditional health plans. They do not have to adhere to ACA standards. They provide limited benefits with generally much higher costs.
What is Short Term Health Insurance? | Cigna
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They are pretty much the same as cobra, except they don't cover you if your have a PEC. I know a lot of you are on Medicare, but don't you want people younger to have PEC's coverage, your children and your grandkids?
Be wary of signing up for Advantage Plans.
Say bye if you vote for tramp.
He doesn't have a plan.
The republicans want to go back to pre the ACA.
its not fixable is the problem
Something had to be done. And a lot more still has to be done. You have a choice. You can work to fix the ACA like it was intended to be done in the first place (call it a rough draft, if you will) or you can come up with a better solution for the same problems. But it's going to be addressed with or without you inputs.
Or you can tell those who presume to offer you a "choice" to go fuck themselves and do whatever you want.
Just don't try to force your will on me, and we'll get along fine.its not fixable is the problem
Something had to be done. And a lot more still has to be done. You have a choice. You can work to fix the ACA like it was intended to be done in the first place (call it a rough draft, if you will) or you can come up with a better solution for the same problems. But it's going to be addressed with or without you inputs.
Or you can tell those who presume to offer you a "choice" to go fuck themselves and do whatever you want.
Sure you can. But when the rest of the world goes one direction and you go another, don't complain when things get a bit dicey.
Just don't try to force your will on me, and we'll get along fine.its not fixable is the problem
Something had to be done. And a lot more still has to be done. You have a choice. You can work to fix the ACA like it was intended to be done in the first place (call it a rough draft, if you will) or you can come up with a better solution for the same problems. But it's going to be addressed with or without you inputs.
Or you can tell those who presume to offer you a "choice" to go fuck themselves and do whatever you want.
Sure you can. But when the rest of the world goes one direction and you go another, don't complain when things get a bit dicey.
Just don't try to force your will on me, and we'll get along fine.its not fixable is the problem
Something had to be done. And a lot more still has to be done. You have a choice. You can work to fix the ACA like it was intended to be done in the first place (call it a rough draft, if you will) or you can come up with a better solution for the same problems. But it's going to be addressed with or without you inputs.
Or you can tell those who presume to offer you a "choice" to go fuck themselves and do whatever you want.
Sure you can. But when the rest of the world goes one direction and you go another, don't complain when things get a bit dicey.
And don't try and force your will on everyone else either. You don't want to participate, then don't. Like the sign is supposed to say, "It's a free Country".
Of course there are all kinds of tests and an annual checkup that are included in obamacare. For free. And 75% of those on the exchanges pay less than $100 a month. Now we need to go after costs with competition and transparency and stop sabotaging it . Not to mention trashing itBecause when they show up at the ER with no or crappy insurance we have to foot the bill.Why should everyone be forced to have the same coverage? Why not let people decide for themselves how to manage their health care? Do we really need government dictating this?
I thought this was clearly understood?
It's understood, as a weak excuse for a government takeover. No thanks.
Crep has a point. Everyone else is already paying for the poor's health care. The crux of the matter is, the poor cannot just up and go to a Doctor for preventive medicine which is cheap. They wait until it's a full blown emergency and then go to the ER which is the most expensive. In a way, we are doing some of what you despise so much with Covid. Walk into any hospital and say that you have all the symptoms that they have posted in that really big poster and, whang, you get medical treatment.
Enjoy going bankrupt and losing all your assets if someone gets sick or has a bad accident....Just don't try to force your will on me, and we'll get along fine.its not fixable is the problem
Something had to be done. And a lot more still has to be done. You have a choice. You can work to fix the ACA like it was intended to be done in the first place (call it a rough draft, if you will) or you can come up with a better solution for the same problems. But it's going to be addressed with or without you inputs.
Or you can tell those who presume to offer you a "choice" to go fuck themselves and do whatever you want.
Sure you can. But when the rest of the world goes one direction and you go another, don't complain when things get a bit dicey.
And don't try and force your will on everyone else either. You don't want to participate, then don't. Like the sign is supposed to say, "It's a free Country".
Just don't try to force your will on me, and we'll get along fine.its not fixable is the problem
Something had to be done. And a lot more still has to be done. You have a choice. You can work to fix the ACA like it was intended to be done in the first place (call it a rough draft, if you will) or you can come up with a better solution for the same problems. But it's going to be addressed with or without you inputs.
Or you can tell those who presume to offer you a "choice" to go fuck themselves and do whatever you want.
Sure you can. But when the rest of the world goes one direction and you go another, don't complain when things get a bit dicey.
And don't try and force your will on everyone else either. You don't want to participate, then don't. Like the sign is supposed to say, "It's a free Country".
Opting out sounds great - but don't tell lies. That's not what you're after.
Yes. I'm saying that your statement - "You don't want to participate, then don't." - is a lie. Or equivocation, or whatever you want to call it. You want to force your ideas about how health care should work on everyone else. You have no idea what "It's a free country" means.You don't want to participate, then don't. Like the sign is supposed to say, "It's a free Country".
Opting out sounds great - but don't tell lies. That's not what you're after.
And now you are telling me what I am after.
Yes. I'm saying that your statement - "You don't want to participate, then don't." - is a lie. Or equivocation, or whatever you want to call it. You want to force your ideas about how health care should work on everyone else. You have no idea what "It's a free country" means.You don't want to participate, then don't. Like the sign is supposed to say, "It's a free Country".
Opting out sounds great - but don't tell lies. That's not what you're after.
And now you are telling me what I am after.
You're an idiot who can't follow a simple conversation. Yet you insist on forcing your idiocy on others. Fuck off.Yes. I'm saying that your statement - "You don't want to participate, then don't." - is a lie. Or equivocation, or whatever you want to call it. You want to force your ideas about how health care should work on everyone else. You have no idea what "It's a free country" means.You don't want to participate, then don't. Like the sign is supposed to say, "It's a free Country".
Opting out sounds great - but don't tell lies. That's not what you're after.
And now you are telling me what I am after.
You can start your own HMO that only people like you use. I'll give it 6 months before you are back begging because the costs will be staggering.
Universal healthcare would actually add to our freedom, not subtract.Just don't try to force your will on me, and we'll get along fine.its not fixable is the problem
Something had to be done. And a lot more still has to be done. You have a choice. You can work to fix the ACA like it was intended to be done in the first place (call it a rough draft, if you will) or you can come up with a better solution for the same problems. But it's going to be addressed with or without you inputs.
Or you can tell those who presume to offer you a "choice" to go fuck themselves and do whatever you want.
Sure you can. But when the rest of the world goes one direction and you go another, don't complain when things get a bit dicey.
And don't try and force your will on everyone else either. You don't want to participate, then don't. Like the sign is supposed to say, "It's a free Country".
You're an idiot who can't follow a simple conversation. Yet you insist on forcing your idiocy on others. Fuck off.Yes. I'm saying that your statement - "You don't want to participate, then don't." - is a lie. Or equivocation, or whatever you want to call it. You want to force your ideas about how health care should work on everyone else. You have no idea what "It's a free country" means.You don't want to participate, then don't. Like the sign is supposed to say, "It's a free Country".
Opting out sounds great - but don't tell lies. That's not what you're after.
And now you are telling me what I am after.
You can start your own HMO that only people like you use. I'll give it 6 months before you are back begging because the costs will be staggering.
Spot on analogy. Insurance covers the POSSIBILITY of getting sick in the future. Pre-existing conditions mean you're already sick. You don't need insurance at that point, you need treatment. There are some things that can be done, like making it harder for an insurance company to dump you if you get sick and they're paying for your treatment, and giving doctors more say in the best treatment for their patients. Instead of him recommending only things that treatment plans will cover, the treatment plan would have to pay for what he recommends, that sort of thing.That's the point of having insurance before something bad happens....
After all, you don't insure your house after it burns down, do you????
Piss poor analogy.
Gone are pre-existing conditions if you vote for trump
See you after the election.
Gone are pre-existing conditions if you vote for trump
Fucking lie. Never gonna happen, Penilope. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW to cut benefits so long as the new plan is enacted within 60 days of ending the old.
Besides, I'd rather DIE free under a proud Trump Administration than to linger oppressed under the communist ministrations of your Biden regime.
