God of the Gaps (well then, how did...")

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Darwinism" is based entirely on the premise that natural selection and not GOD created diversity.

False. It doesn't gives two shits what god did or did not do. You can say natural selection was God's will, if you like. It will have no bearing whatsoever on Darwinism.

You are so far down the rabbit hole of your preferred iron age religion that you cannot view anything through any other lens. You think you and you preferred iron aged religion -- espoused by a only a small minority of people who have ever lived -- are somehow the center of the intellectual universe. All knowledge and belief, in the eyes of a brainwashed person like yourself, must, BY DESIGN, either confirm or deny your magical beliefs. This is absurd. Nobody is paying any attention or deference whatsoever to your iron aged fairy tales, when discovering new knowledge. Ever.

Darwin was a very confused man, who wrote a book and is now dead. According to you and Dawkins ---- DEAD DEAD DEAD! If there is no GOD, it really doesn't matter much to him what you think or say because he is gone and so will you be soon enough.

You sound like the evil little kid next door in an 80s horror movie.

Maybe there is a god. You are the one who has the problem resolving evolution with the existence of god. Why cant you just look at it as "studying god's creation"? Is god not capable of thinking up and making evolution?

 

[Anomalism]

You sound like the evil little kid next door in an 80s horror movie.

Maybe there is a god. You are the one who has the problem resolving evolution with the existence of god. Why cant you just look at it as "studying god's creation"? Is god not capable of thinking up and making evolution?

It's that fucking Bible...

Worst book ever.

 

[Hollie]

Darwinism is based on atheism even though Darwin himself would not admit it. He became agnostic because evolution teaches that there is no purpose to life. It is only to perpetuate the survival of DNA. Today Richard Dawkins has picked up Darwin's ball and ran with it. He says, "Humans have always wondered about the meaning of life...life has no higher purpose than to perpetuate the survival of DNA...life has no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind pitiless indifference."

Evolution states living creatures (but not humans) differ from one another and those variations arise at random, without a plan or purpose. Humans are not included because no one, even Darwin, has showed humans came from apes. It doesn't happen today nor in the past. There are no factual ape-human fossils nor transitional ones except for fake ones.

“Darwinism” is not based on atheism. I understand why you parrot that silly slogan but you present yourself as ignorant and uninformed by doing so.

Your comment about what evolution “states” is not true at all. You present yourself as ignorant and uninformed by doing so.

Humans did not evolve from apes. You present yourself as ignorant and uninformed by claiming they did. There are a great many transitional fossils showing the progression of what was to become modern humans. You present yourself as ignorant and uninformed by denying that progression.

"Darwinism" is based entirely on the premise that natural selection and not GOD created diversity. There are fossils of various animals which have become extinct for one reason or another. There is no proof that various fossils are related to anything alive today unless they look the same as a living organism found today. And true. GOD created the human ADAM from the dust and Eve was created from Adam's bone by GOD. So, obviously man is in no way related to apes nor monkeys.

“Religionism” is based entirely in the premise that one or more gods, using magical / supernatural means, created all of existence. There is no evidence to suggest that your polytheistic gods created existence as opposed to the gods of other religioners. Everything about supernaturalism you attribute to your gods others attribute to their gods. Your claims to supernatural gods are best left to competitions vs. others and their claims to their gods.

“Religionism” has a difficult time with fossil evidence because that evidence points to change in species over massive timeframes. To suggest that there is no proof (science doesn’t deal in absolute proofs but evidence), that various fossils are not related to anything alive today is simply, literally, denial of the available evidence. I could go into thousands of examples of direct links from modern day biology to fossil remains of ancestral forms but that has been delineated before.

The science of biological evolution is not in question. The various claims of religionism are in question. So, it thus falls to you to provide some evidence for your gods and we will hold your evidence to the same standard that we hold science to. That seems fair.

What’s odd is that we have fossil evidence showing clear, intermediate progressions of humans evolving from a primitive ape-like ancestor. Could the various gods have been experimenting with forms of humans? I have to note that the gods of other religions provide entirely different tales and fables of how humans were “created”. If we assume those tales and fables are true, it means that you have inherited the wrong gods.

 

[Hollie]

Speaking of NOAH's ARK, while scientists who once espoused that there was absolutely no proof whatsoever that the entire earth was once covered completely with water (not enough H2O, no evidence whatsoever of a would wide FLOOD, etc.), there is now suddenly a lot of proof that the entire earth was once underwater. YES, yes, these scientists are putting a few billion year spin on this event. They have to. They must. It would ruin their humanistic/naturalistic theories. HOWEVER, it does reveal that scientists can be wrong once again ----- or at least not entirely truthful. And well, it is likely they are just as wrong with their eons of time, especially if one factors in an eternal being called GOD ---- who would have created a fully functioning universe and environment to both reveal some of HIS power and abilities to those HE created and loved. The fact is that GOD is so much more vast and eternal than ever the Universe could appear... 1.5 billion-year-old Earth had water everywhere, but not one continent, study suggests https://astrobiology.nasa.gov/nai/media/medialibrary/2013/10/Cooler-Early-Earth-Article.pdf

You realize of course that a 1.5 billion year old earth is in direct contradiction to the Noah fable and a godly flood just a few thousand years ago.

It’s really stinging irony that those promoting science hating religionism will cherry pick science articles in attempts to prove their religion, while at the same time reviling science as contradicting their religionism.

You do realize that NASA was a co-conspirator in the moon landing fraud, right? Why would anyone cite a NASA article when those evilutionist, atheist scientists are such fakes?

 

[LittleNipper]

Darwinism" is based entirely on the premise that natural selection and not GOD created diversity.

False. It doesn't gives two shits what god did or did not do. You can say natural selection was God's will, if you like. It will have no bearing whatsoever on Darwinism.

You are so far down the rabbit hole of your preferred iron age religion that you cannot view anything through any other lens. You think you and you preferred iron aged religion -- espoused by a only a small minority of people who have ever lived -- are somehow the center of the intellectual universe. All knowledge and belief, in the eyes of a brainwashed person like yourself, must, BY DESIGN, either confirm or deny your magical beliefs. This is absurd. Nobody is paying any attention or deference whatsoever to your iron aged fairy tales, when discovering new knowledge. Ever.

Darwin was a very confused man, who wrote a book and is now dead. According to you and Dawkins ---- DEAD DEAD DEAD! If there is no GOD, it really doesn't matter much to him what you think or say because he is gone and so will you be soon enough.

You sound like the evil little kid next door in an 80s horror movie.

Maybe there is a god. You are the one who has the problem resolving evolution with the existence of god. Why cant you just look at it as "studying god's creation"? Is god not capable of thinking up and making evolution?

God is not capable of lying. JESUS said, "GOD made one man and one woman." And that is that. The Bible clearly shows 6 days of creation and on the 7th day GOD rested. I don't need to resolve evolution. You need to prove that evolution is the way all the various kinds came to be. And so far, you have never been able to do that. Every animal is different in some way from all the rest within its category. No two humans are exactly alike ----- even if twins, etc... However humans remain human, Dogs remain dogs, cats remain cats, sheep remain sheep, bees remain bees, flies remain flies, bats remain bats, bacteria remains bacteria, fungus remains fungi, plants remain plants --------- etc., etc., etc....

 

[LittleNipper]

Speaking of NOAH's ARK, while scientists who once espoused that there was absolutely no proof whatsoever that the entire earth was once covered completely with water (not enough H2O, no evidence whatsoever of a would wide FLOOD, etc.), there is now suddenly a lot of proof that the entire earth was once underwater. YES, yes, these scientists are putting a few billion year spin on this event. They have to. They must. It would ruin their humanistic/naturalistic theories. HOWEVER, it does reveal that scientists can be wrong once again ----- or at least not entirely truthful. And well, it is likely they are just as wrong with their eons of time, especially if one factors in an eternal being called GOD ---- who would have created a fully functioning universe and environment to both reveal some of HIS power and abilities to those HE created and loved. The fact is that GOD is so much more vast and eternal than ever the Universe could appear... 1.5 billion-year-old Earth had water everywhere, but not one continent, study suggests https://astrobiology.nasa.gov/nai/media/medialibrary/2013/10/Cooler-Early-Earth-Article.pdf

You realize of course that a 1.5 billion year old earth is in direct contradiction to the Noah fable and a godly flood just a few thousand years ago.

It’s really stinging irony that those promoting science hating religionism will cherry pick science articles in attempts to prove their religion, while at the same time reviling science as contradicting their religionism.

You do realize that NASA was a co-conspirator in the moon landing fraud, right? Why would anyone cite a NASA article when those evilutionist, atheist scientists are such fakes?

And I'm telling you what may be perceived by some as billions of years old, does not factor in GOD! And yes man went to the moon. I don't see any reason to believe otherwise. Did they come back and say they found life there? No, they didn't. In fact NASA proved that many theories concerning the age of the moon were false. They were concerned that the moon was deeply covered in lunar dust for one. Scientists, are only as correct as they are HONEST with their findings. Speculation isn't fact until proven.

 

[Hollie]

Speaking of NOAH's ARK, while scientists who once espoused that there was absolutely no proof whatsoever that the entire earth was once covered completely with water (not enough H2O, no evidence whatsoever of a would wide FLOOD, etc.), there is now suddenly a lot of proof that the entire earth was once underwater. YES, yes, these scientists are putting a few billion year spin on this event. They have to. They must. It would ruin their humanistic/naturalistic theories. HOWEVER, it does reveal that scientists can be wrong once again ----- or at least not entirely truthful. And well, it is likely they are just as wrong with their eons of time, especially if one factors in an eternal being called GOD ---- who would have created a fully functioning universe and environment to both reveal some of HIS power and abilities to those HE created and loved. The fact is that GOD is so much more vast and eternal than ever the Universe could appear... 1.5 billion-year-old Earth had water everywhere, but not one continent, study suggests https://astrobiology.nasa.gov/nai/media/medialibrary/2013/10/Cooler-Early-Earth-Article.pdf

You realize of course that a 1.5 billion year old earth is in direct contradiction to the Noah fable and a godly flood just a few thousand years ago.

It’s really stinging irony that those promoting science hating religionism will cherry pick science articles in attempts to prove their religion, while at the same time reviling science as contradicting their religionism.

You do realize that NASA was a co-conspirator in the moon landing fraud, right? Why would anyone cite a NASA article when those evilutionist, atheist scientists are such fakes?

And I'm telling you what may be perceived by some as billions of years old, does not factor in GOD! And yes man went to the moon. I don't see any reason to believe otherwise. Did they come back and say they found life there? No, they didn't. In fact NASA proved that many theories concerning the age of the moon were false. They were concerned that the moon was deeply covered in lunar dust for one. Scientists, are only as correct as they are HONEST with their findings. Speculation isn't fact until proven.

You telling me “perceptions” about time are not factors that concern your gods is not a convincing argument. You may feel you know for certain that the gods are perhaps manipulating time but there are good reasons to accept that the speed of light is calculable and that indicates a view back in time of billions of years.

Why would use a link to NASA in your earlier post to “prove” your gods but dismiss NASA and the Hubble telescope, for example, as “seeing” back billions of years in time?

There is something about pick and choose religionism that is really arbitrary and capricious.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

JESUS said, "GOD made one man and one woman."

So? I made one cake once. That doesn't mean i never made others. And maybe he was referring to the human race in general? Use your imagination. You have no problem dismissing other parts of the bible, being the cafeteria christian you are. You need to adjust your views on this topic to align with the facts. Because the facts arent going to adjust.

For example:

This...

...is more closely related to this....

...than it is to this:

 

[abu afak]

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[abu afak]

Speaking of NOAH's ARK, while scientists who once espoused that there was absolutely no proof whatsoever that the entire earth was once covered completely with water (not enough H2O, no evidence whatsoever of a would wide FLOOD, etc.), there is now suddenly a lot of proof that the entire earth was once underwater. YES, yes, these scientists are putting a few billion year spin on this event. They have to. They must. It would ruin their humanistic/naturalistic theories. HOWEVER, it does reveal that scientists can be wrong once again ----- or at least not entirely truthful. And well, it is likely they are just as wrong with their eons of time, especially if one factors in an eternal being called GOD ---- who would have created a fully functioning universe and environment to both reveal some of HIS power and abilities to those HE created and loved. The fact is that GOD is so much more vast and eternal than ever the Universe could appear... 1.5 billion-year-old Earth had water everywhere, but not one continent, study suggests https://astrobiology.nasa.gov/nai/media/medialibrary/2013/10/Cooler-Early-Earth-Article.pdf

You realize of course that a 1.5 billion year old earth is in direct contradiction to the Noah fable and a godly flood just a few thousand years ago.

It’s really stinging irony that those promoting science hating religionism will cherry pick science articles in attempts to prove their religion, while at the same time reviling science as contradicting their religionism.

You do realize that NASA was a co-conspirator in the moon landing fraud, right? Why would anyone cite a NASA article when those evilutionist, atheist scientists are such fakes?

And I'm telling you what may be perceived by some as billions of years old, does not factor in GOD! And yes man went to the moon. I don't see any reason to believe otherwise. Did they come back and say they found life there? No, they didn't. In fact NASA proved that many theories concerning the age of the moon were false. They were concerned that the moon was deeply covered in lunar dust for one. Scientists, are only as correct as they are HONEST with their findings. Speculation isn't fact until proven.

You telling me “perceptions” about time are not factors that concern your gods is not a convincing argument. You may feel you know for certain that the gods are perhaps manipulating time but there are good reasons to accept that the speed of light is calculable and that indicates a view back in time of billions of years.

Why would use a link to NASA in your earlier post to “prove” your gods but dismiss NASA and the Hubble telescope, for example, as “seeing” back billions of years in time?

There is something about pick and choose religionism that is really arbitrary and capricious.

So Ringtone is doing a pretty routine God of the Gaps.
That's it.
A weak Philosophical, NOT evidentiary case for this deity.
(he's too embarrassed to name, lest he be outed as just another James Bond)

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[abu afak]

Who has no logic you Always Wrong NUMB NUTS?
There is NO god in evidence and certainly not yours.
This is the SCIENCE section where EVIDENCE is required.

Yet, your side has Not Explanation for start of space and time, how the cell developed, how anything infinite can exist in the natural world when it would violate the laws of physics, how the energy needed for the universe came to be, how humans (intelligent beings who can make choices) came into existence, why there are mountains coming up from the depths of our oceans around the world, and more. Stop lying and using the lies of evolution to explain what is NOT science and technology. You are a colossal boob.

God of the Gaps classic.
YOUR side used to have no explanation for fire or fertility or rain.
so they made up a god.
'My side' looks for and finds explanations (eventually gets rid of gods), your side discourages that in favor of old myths.

another piece of Bond's logic/IQ deficiency.

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[james bond]

Who has no logic you Always Wrong NUMB NUTS?
There is NO god in evidence and certainly not yours.
This is the SCIENCE section where EVIDENCE is required.

Yet, your side has Not Explanation for start of space and time, how the cell developed, how anything infinite can exist in the natural world when it would violate the laws of physics, how the energy needed for the universe came to be, how humans (intelligent beings who can make choices) came into existence, why there are mountains coming up from the depths of our oceans around the world, and more. Stop lying and using the lies of evolution to explain what is NOT science and technology. You are a colossal boob.

God of the Gaps classic.
YOUR side used to have no explanation for fire or fertility or rain.
so they made up a god.
'My side' looks for and finds explanations (eventually gets rid of gods), your side discourages that in favor of old myths.

another piece of Bond's logic/IQ deficiency.

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How can it be God of the Gaps when the evidence backs up what God stated? To the contrary, evolution is more evolutionary lies of the gaps. It is built like a tower of cards waiting to fall at any moment.

>>YOUR side used to have no explanation for fire or fertility or rain.
so they made up a god.<<

You'll have to explain this atheistic claim.

Nobody had to make up the Christian God. It was explained in the Bible. How else can it be the best selling book year-after-year?

If it wasn't true, then there would have been contradictions found early on. Instead, we find ALL THE CONTRADICTIONS are on the atheists and evolution side. You have absolutely no evidence for anything Darwin ever said (except for natural selection which God created).

It's the atheists who made up evolution, abiogenesis, singularity, and the rest of their lies. There is absolutely no evidence for any of it. Physics and the scientific method shows that singularity and abiogenesis are not possible. Thus, it is not possible to have a common ancestor or evolution.

 

[abu afak]

Nobody had to make up the Christian God. It was explained in the Bible. How else can it be the best selling book year-after-year?

There is NO evidence for god.
Zero.
So you resort to another of your 12 IQ Fallacies....

Circular Reasoning

CIRCULAR REASONING
circulus in demonstrando
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Description: A type of reasoning in which the proposition is supported by the premises, which is supported by the proposition, creating a Circle in reasoning where NO Useful information is being shared.​

This Fallacy is often quite Humorous.​

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Example #2:​

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The Bible is the Word of God because God tells us it is... in the Bible.​

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Explanation: This is a very serious circular argument on which many people base their entire lives.​

This is like getting an e-mail from a Nigerian prince, offering to give you his billion dollar fortune -- but only after you wire him a “good will” offering of $50,000. Of course, you are skeptical until you read the final line in the e-mail that reads “I, prince Nubadola, assure you that this is my message, and it is legitimate. You can trust this e-mail and any others that come from me.” Now you know it is legitimate... because it says so in the e-mail.​

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[james bond]

Nobody had to make up the Christian God. It was explained in the Bible. How else can it be the best selling book year-after-year?

There is NO evidence for god.
Zero.
So you resort to another of your 12 IQ Fallacies....

Circular Reasoning

CIRCULAR REASONING
circulus in demonstrando
......

Description: A type of reasoning in which the proposition is supported by the premises, which is supported by the proposition, creating a Circle in reasoning where NO Useful information is being shared.​

This Fallacy is often quite Humorous.​

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Example #2:​

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The Bible is the Word of God because God tells us it is... in the Bible.​

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Explanation: This is a very serious circular argument on which many people base their entire lives.​

This is like getting an e-mail from a Nigerian prince, offering to give you his billion dollar fortune -- but only after you wire him a “good will” offering of $50,000. Of course, you are skeptical until you read the final line in the e-mail that reads “I, prince Nubadola, assure you that this is my message, and it is legitimate. You can trust this e-mail and any others that come from me.” Now you know it is legitimate... because it says so in the e-mail.​

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I was about to take the dogs for a walk, but how can circular reasoning be the best selling book year-after-year? What's the last evolution book that sold well in the general public?

The Bible is a beautiful and complex book which one needs to read often to keep up. It explains everything including why the Perseverance rover can't find squat of life on Mars. Instead, it ends up naming rocks that people will forget in short order. It means atheism is wrong, wrong, wrong and so are you. It is truly amazing that educated people believe in the lies of evolution (I'm not referring to you as educated ).

To the contrary, Darwinism and atheism do not have a valid explanation for most things and is the science based on circular reasoning. You have been going in circles for most of your life as an atheist that you cannot see what is true anymore. Science should not be based on consensus, but the scientific method. It goes against what Sir Francis Bacon stated.

Anyway, I wouldn't brag about the things you and your family fell for like an e-mail from a Nigerian prince.

 

[abu afak]

I was about to take the dogs for a walk, but How can circular reasoning be the Best Selling Book year-after-year? What's the last evolution book that sold well in the general public?

LACKING any EVIDENCE we get ANOTHER Classic FALLACY!
You are a Walking and even encyclopedia IDIOT!

Argumentum ad populum
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people"[1]) is a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition must be true because many or most people believe it, often concisely encapsulated as: "If many believe so, it is so".​

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Other names for the fallacy include common belief fallacy or appeal to (common) belief,[2][3] appeal to the majority,[4] appeal to the masses,[5] appeal to popularity,[6][7] argument from consensus,[8] authority of the many,[8][9] bandwagon fallacy,[7][10] consensus gentium (Latin for "agreement of the people"),[10] democratic fallacy,[11], mob appeal..​

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[ding]

Nobody had to make up the Christian God. It was explained in the Bible. How else can it be the best selling book year-after-year?

There is NO evidence for god.
Zero.
So you resort to another of your 12 IQ Fallacies....

Circular Reasoning

CIRCULAR REASONING
circulus in demonstrando
......

Description: A type of reasoning in which the proposition is supported by the premises, which is supported by the proposition, creating a Circle in reasoning where NO Useful information is being shared.​

This Fallacy is often quite Humorous.​

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Example #2:​

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The Bible is the Word of God because God tells us it is... in the Bible.​

​

Explanation: This is a very serious circular argument on which many people base their entire lives.​

This is like getting an e-mail from a Nigerian prince, offering to give you his billion dollar fortune -- but only after you wire him a “good will” offering of $50,000. Of course, you are skeptical until you read the final line in the e-mail that reads “I, prince Nubadola, assure you that this is my message, and it is legitimate. You can trust this e-mail and any others that come from me.” Now you know it is legitimate... because it says so in the e-mail.​

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You mean other than the universe popping into existence being hardwired for intelligence and Jesus Christ, right?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You mean other than the universe popping into existence being hardwired for intelligence and Jesus Christ, right?

So what if it did? I fail to see the need for magical sky daddies to explain that.

 

[james bond]

I was about to take the dogs for a walk, but How can circular reasoning be the Best Selling Book year-after-year? What's the last evolution book that sold well in the general public?

LACKING any EVIDENCE we get ANOTHER Classic FALLACY!
You are a Walking and even encyclopedia IDIOT!

Argumentum ad populum
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people"[1]) is a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition must be true because many or most people believe it, often concisely encapsulated as: "If many believe so, it is so".​

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Other names for the fallacy include common belief fallacy or appeal to (common) belief,[2][3] appeal to the majority,[4] appeal to the masses,[5] appeal to popularity,[6][7] argument from consensus,[8] authority of the many,[8][9] bandwagon fallacy,[7][10] consensus gentium (Latin for "agreement of the people"),[10] democratic fallacy,[11], mob appeal..​

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Haha. Let's admit that a book based on circular reasoning will be exposed for what it is and eventually not sell. This has happened with Darwin's book and we found that his second book was racist. I pointed out it led to eugenics (by his cousin) and the Holocaust. You cannot figure these things out, so I have to explicitly tell you.

Second, that wasn't my main argument.

If the Bible was just a popular book, then it would fade in sales as its popularity waned. Instead, I pointed out that, " The Bible is a beautiful and complex book which one needs to read often to keep up. It explains everything including why the Perseverance rover can't find squat of life on Mars." There has been no life found on Mars and our solar system, so it proves Earth, the universe, and everything in it was created by God. Just the seven days of creation explain beautifully how everything happened and science backs it up. If there is no abiogenesis (which the swan neck flask experiment disproves), then there can be no evolution and evolutionary origins. See how the Bible uncovers what is true and science backs it up.

 

[ding]

You mean other than the universe popping into existence being hardwired for intelligence and Jesus Christ, right?

So what if it did? I fail to see the need for magical sky daddies to explain that.

Me either. I don't believe in magical sky daddies. I believe in God.

 

[abu afak]

.....Second, that wasn't my main argument.
If the Bible was just a POPULAR book, then it would fade in sales as its Popularity waned. Instead, I pointed out that, " The Bible is a beautiful and complex book which one needs to read often to keep up.
It explains everything including why the Perseverance rover can't find squat of life on Mars." There has been no life found on Mars and our solar system, so it proves Earth, the universe, and everything in it was created by God. Just the seven days of creation explain beautifully how everything happened and science backs it up. If there is no abiogenesis (which the swan neck flask experiment disproves), then there can be no evolution and evolutionary origins. See how the Bible uncovers what is true and science backs it up.

More Argumentum ad Populum!!!!!
WTF!

You are mentally ill.
Illogical and completely brainwashed.


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