G'ment Has Shut Down The G'ment!!!

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I just read that congress critters and Senators continue to get paid during shut downs!

That needs changing, NOW!

Amend the Constitution then. You cannot reduce a Representative or Senators pay during their term without an amendment saying you can, because it is prohibited by the Constitution.

 

[dudmuck]

Yes, they do stop getting paid. If there is no funding by their next paycheck, they get nothing!

 

[sparky]

None.

If the D's policies get defunded.....and 100K resign .......?

Do the math Admiral

~S~

 

[Lisa558]

None.

We WOULD save if they didn’t get the back pay. There would be more pressure to reach a compromise before a shutdown, or within a few days after it happens,

People in private industry are laid off all the time - permanently. Govt workers, knowing that they might have to miss a paycheck in October, should have at least two months in an ER.

And don’t give me how lots of govt workers don’t earn much. Lots of private don’t earn much, either.

Why should govt workers get all sorts of privileges the private industry workers have to fund, and which they don’t get themselves?

 

[SweetTea]

Do you mean Iowa?

Yes, I guess it was in Iowa. Not sure why I had MD in my head.

 

[Rambunctious]

No, they do not get paid during the shutdown, from all that I have read...they'll get back pay? Let me find a link to confirm...

Navigating A Government Shutdown: One-Stop Resource Page

raskin.house.gov

Essential workers still get paid... people whose job is not important get back pay... boo hoo... blame Schumer who voted for this extension more than once in the past... he is playing political games with people's paychecks...

 

[initforme]

We WOULD save if they didn’t get the back pay. There would be more pressure to reach a compromise before a shutdown, or within a few days after it happens,

People in private industry are laid off all the time - permanently. Govt workers, knowing that they might have to miss a paycheck in October, should have at least two months in an ER.

And don’t give me how lots of govt workers don’t earn much. Lots of private don’t earn much, either.

Why should govt workers get all sorts of privileges the private industry workers have to fund, and which they don’t get themselves?

The fact thats lots of workers in general dont earn much is a telltale sign we have a huge wage issue in this country.

 

[Lisa558]

The fact thats lots of workers in general dont earn much is a telltale sign we have a huge wage issue in this country.

Not really. It’s a sign that our young people aren’t be educated for marketable careers. Anyone with the brains and ambition can become affluent.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Essential workers still get paid... people whose job is not important get back pay... boo hoo... blame Schumer who voted for this extension more than once in the past... he is playing political games with people's paychecks...

Excepted employees are not paid during a shutdown. Excepted employees are required to go to work, but do not receive pay during the period of the shutdown. They get back pay once appropriations are passed.

Excepted employees (commonly call "essential employees) are typically those involved with public safety, law enforcement. air traffic controllers, military personnel, those involved with protection of lives and property can be classified as excepted employees.

What the government shutdown means for federal workers—hundreds of thousands are required to keep working without pay

Hundreds of thousands of federal employees are either furloughed or working without pay amid the start of the government shutdown.

www.cnbc.com

WW

 

[Rambunctious]

Excepted employees are not paid during a shutdown. Excepted employees are required to go to work, but do not receive pay during the period of the shutdown. They get back pay once appropriations are passed.

Excepted employees (commonly call "essential employees) are typically those involved with public safety, law enforcement. air traffic controllers, military personnel, those involved with protection of lives and property can be classified as excepted employees.

What the government shutdown means for federal workers—hundreds of thousands are required to keep working without pay

Hundreds of thousands of federal employees are either furloughed or working without pay amid the start of the government shutdown.

www.cnbc.com

WW

That's why the democrat shutdown must end today... several democrat senators are saying they will vote for the CR...

 

[WorldWatcher]

That's why the democrat shutdown must end today... several democrat senators are saying they will vote for the CR...

The shutdown is all on Trump.

Trump doesn't need a single DEM vote to pass a budget or CR. The constitution only requires a majority vote.

WW

 

[leftwinger]

The shutdown is all on Trump.

Trump doesn't need a single DEM vote to pass a budget or CR. The constitution only requires a majority vote.

WW

It passed the house as you say. Not certain why or how it fails the Senate? If it takes 51? Im not looking it up for you.

If Senate makes changes it has to go pass House again I would bet. I dont watch news or know about it. I heard here Schumer told his people vote against and he is the holdup. DEMs....as always. Lying.

 

[Rambunctious]

The shutdown is all on Trump.

Trump doesn't need a single DEM vote to pass a budget or CR. The constitution only requires a majority vote.

WW

Trump??? I didn't know is was a senator...

 

[WorldWatcher]

It passed the house as you say. Not certain why or how it fails the Senate? If it takes 51? Im not looking it up for you.

If Senate makes changes it has to go pass House again I would bet. I dont watch news or know about it. I heard here Schumer told his people vote against and he is the holdup. DEMs....as always. Lying.

#1 I didn't say "it passed the house as you say", I said that there is only a simple majority needed per the Constitution for legislation to pass (both House and Senate).

#2 I said that the legislation can be passed with a simple majority and that is true. It's a two step process:

• Step 1: Pass - via a simple majority - either a modification or an exception to the Senate rules allowing a majority vote to enact closure.
• Step 2: Pass the legislation with a simple majority.

Since the GOP has the majority of the Senate, they don't need a single vote for Step 1 and Step 2.

WW

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If the D's policies get defunded.....and 100K resign .......?

Do the math Admiral

~S~

I doubt much of that will happen either. The resignations were already in place.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The fact thats lots of workers in general dont earn much is a telltale sign we have a huge wage issue in this country.

Thank you, Comrade Methusaleh.

 

[jotathought]

The Schumer Shutdown 2025!! Time to get your popcorn and watch Democrats, who have blatantly lied, acquiesce to the proposed agreement to keep government operational. Unfortunately, Democrats chose the hard path which has led to a deeper dive into non-essential workers .. translated .. why are we paying federal employees to do jobs that aren't essential to deliver value?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The shutdown is all on Trump.

Trump doesn't need a single DEM vote to pass a budget or CR. The constitution only requires a majority vote.

WW

Why are you so full of shit? Do you need a dose of laxative? Do you specialize in half-truths?

You omitted the requirement for cloture from your reasoning. Yes, they could change the rules with the nuclear option, but there is no need. Democrats could have simply voted not to shut down.

Why are you so dishonest?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

#1 I didn't say "it passed the house as you say", I said that there is only a simple majority needed per the Constitution for legislation to pass (both House and Senate).

#2 I said that the legislation can be passed with a simple majority and that is true. It's a two step process:

• Step 1: Pass - via a simple majority - either a modification or an exception to the Senate rules allowing a majority vote to enact closure.
• Step 2: Pass the legislation with a simple majority.

Since the GOP has the majority of the Senate, they don't need a single vote for Step 1 and Step 2.

WW

Intellectually dishonest. Your TDS is flaring again?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We WOULD save if they didn’t get the back pay. There would be more pressure to reach a compromise before a shutdown, or within a few days after it happens,

People in private industry are laid off all the time - permanently. Govt workers, knowing that they might have to miss a paycheck in October, should have at least two months in an ER.

And don’t give me how lots of govt workers don’t earn much. Lots of private don’t earn much, either.

Why should govt workers get all sorts of privileges the private industry workers have to fund, and which they don’t get themselves?

Well, that's not going to happen, so have a nice day!