Sad thing is, i think the main reason Iraq became a failure is because Obama took over. I could be wrong. But maybe the lesson is we can't do these type of things because the next guy in power might be completely incompetent.
By the time Obama took over as President, the war in Iraq had lost public appeal due to an eroding economy and the various corporate disasters that ensued under BOOSH! If there was any INCOMPETENCY to acknowledge, look no further than the GOP: The party of NO except to further their own selfish interests. As in the past, the GOP messed things up and left a mess for the incoming Democrat administration to clean up
without republican help!
So it's Bush's fault, you can't articulate a real reason why it just is. But Obama isn't responsible at all for what's going on despite his involvement in releasing the leader of ISIS, his destabilization of the middle east, and his providing weapons to this group in Syria?
Sorry, just don't see it. Not saying Bush is completely blameless but Iraq and the middle east was no where near this when Obama took over.
Well, consider this:
Most of the right wingers posting here glean their attack material from talking heads such as Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity and such. Researching that, I have come to realize that virtually every conservative talking point has a poll at its core.
While I am no fan of polls, due to the inherent duplicity and fudge factors involved in conducting them, there are times when I find it appropriate to throw them back in the face of believers who live by them.
When the Iraq war began, 68% of Americans were for it. Over time , affinity for the war changed! A poll conducted by the Opinion Research Corp in 2007 ostensibly reflected that 61% said it was not worth invading Iraq.
Public opinion early in the 21st century was driven by the 911 disaster and the Bush administration was initially given a carte blanche license to do anything they wanted to avenge that dastardly attack on our soil. Democrats and Republicans alike joined in the mass hysteria, united under the banner of retribution. Bush, masking his desire for personal revenge against Saddam Hussein, who orchestrated an attempt on his fathers life, found the perfect excuse to invade Iraq: an allegation that Saddam was harboring Weapons of Mass Destruction.
Our CIA fed the frenzy with reports that Saddam was hiding WMDs. But, even when NATO inspectors were allowed into Iraq to investigate, and nothing was found, the reports persisted. (Many CIA analysts complained publicly that the Bush Administration was forcing them to lie on this issue.)
In the minds of armchair speculators, fiction became fact and was mirrored in the polls, setting a dangerous precedent. Eyeing the American polls, Bush called for support from our allies to invade Iraq. They balked because NATO Inspectors and foreign intelligence agencies found no WMDs and confirmed Hussein had no ties to Bin Laden; the latter of which was confirmed by reports from Israeli intelligence.
Saddam Hussein had not forgotten the slaughter of Iraqis during Desert Storm and he wanted no repeat of that! But, GW Bush, with the hoodwinked Democrat congress in tow, seized the opportunity to pursue his deadly vendetta. That move certainly gained no favor among Europeans and American taxpayers who had to pay sooner or later for the entire affair.
myself (JQ) By the time said:
Obama took over as President, the war in Iraq had lost public appeal due to an eroding economy and the various corporate disasters that ensued under BOOSH! If there was any INCOMPETENCY to acknowledge, look no further than the GOP: The party of NO except to further their own selfish interests. As in the past, the GOP messed things up and left a mess for the incoming Democrat.
The above re-quote says it all. Due to GOP generated economic woes in the USA, Obama really had little choice other than to get Americans out of Iraq. He sought the advice of his top military leaders in doing so.
Opinion polls ostensibly reflected a microcosm of the Will of The People and provided clues as to why the GOP had lost favor in the eyes of the American voters. Obama, sensing that collective energy, acted wisely and redirected what resources he could to domestic issues.. Remember, he did this while the Republican controlled House did everything they could to MAKE HIM FAIL! Even as he tried to stabilize our own struggling economy, the GOP were as relentless in their mission as Al-Qaeda in undermining the President of the United States!
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Americans are starkly less confident and proud of their country's involvement in Iraq, according to poll results released Sunday.
However, the poll -- results of which were released on the eve of the Iraq war's 4-year anniversary -- also indicated that Americans are no more worried about the conflict than they were when it began in March 2003.
The CNN poll of 1,027 adults was conducted March 9-11 by Opinion Research Corp. The sampling error for the poll is plus or minus 3 percentage points.
According to the results, 35 percent of Americans are confident about the war, the poll said. When the war began, 83 percent of Americans expressed confidence in the campaign.
Similarly, 30 percent of those polled this month said they were proud of the war, as opposed to 65 percent who expressed that sentiment in 2003.
The poll also showed that 33 percent of Americans are afraid of the war and 55 percent are worried by it. Those percentages are roughly the same as they were four years ago.
Sunday's results came on the heels of a Saturday release indicating that years of war had whittled away at Americans' support for the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan.
When the Iraq war began, 68 percent of Americans said they felt the situation in the country was worth fighting over. Now, 61 percent of those surveyed say it was not worth invading Iraq, according to the poll.
That survey of 1,027 adults by Opinion Research Corp. was conducted by telephone March 9-11 as well. It has a sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
The poll showed that support for the Iraq war had dwindled to 35 percent. In 2004, support for the war was about 56 percent. Last year, the number dipped to 37 percent, and today about 35 percent of Americans say they support the war, according to the poll.
Support for the war in Afghanistan also has seen a considerable decline as 88 percent of those polled in 2001 said they were behind the conflict. This month's poll indicates that support lingers around 53 percent.
Also, according to the poll, about 55 percent of Americans feel the war in Afghanistan is "going badly," according to the poll.
Poll: Confidence in Iraq war down sharply - CNN.com CIRCA 2007
I remember it well. The US. taxpayer was being billed $2BILLION/DAY in 2007 for Cheney's & Bush's war of choice.
