Glad I'm not a school age parent these days

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Parents today have so much more to beware of in their childs education than when my daughters were in. Every teacher a groomer seems to be the plan.
 
Parents today have so much more to beware of in their childs education than when my daughters were in. Every teacher a groomer seems to be the plan.
This is the MAGA lie. The kids need to be afraid of their male relatives and church leaders, not teachers.
 
Parents today have so much more to beware of in their childs education than when my daughters were in. Every teacher a groomer seems to be the plan.
YOu do realize that they are much more likely to be groomed by a "youth pastor" or some such than a teacher, right? And don't even get me started on their RWNJ relatives and politicians.
 
YOu do realize that they are much more likely to be groomed by a "youth pastor" or some such than a teacher, right? And don't even get me started on their RWNJ relatives and politicians.
They aggressively shield themselves from facts. Republicans were pro education. I don't understand the MAGA party's hatred of teachers.
 
#2 is off to college this fall so down to 1 in K-12. We've never had a real problem with all the crap conservatives whine about happening in schools. BTW, most of these so-called trans kids aren't hiding crap from their parents whether they believe they are or not.
 
Parents today have so much more to beware of in their childs education than when my daughters were in. Every teacher a groomer seems to be the plan.

In education this is old news--what I mean is, you're about three outrages behind.

The rising outrage is the lack of parenting/out of control kids who sabotage the education of all the others.

And that one is valid because it's widespread
 
I'm not sure how pervasive the grooming thing is across the board. But yes I am SO GLAD our kids are both done with K-12 and college.

It's not. It is isolated and was more like a Moral Panic on the right.

Not saying it never happened; just not nearly as much as the panicky types want you to believe.
 
This is the MAGA lie. The kids need to be afraid of their male relatives and church leaders, not teachers.
My relatives in New Jersey will say different. I am not against social rights. I am against stupidity in them. And the reason is simple. If we ever lose our resources or a portion of them it is not going to be nice. A lot of this is built on high taxation. Wealth in human history can be fleeting.
 
Much of the indoctrination in schools is subtle or even hidden. Previous generations were taught that it was a great blessing to be an American, that we should "love" our country, and honor those who served it, especially in the Armed Forces. A significant percentage of high school boys aspired to join one of the services, if not to make it a career. We pledged allegiance every day and did not (generally) think it was stupid or lame. Study of American history highlighted the lives and achievements of our great predecessors like Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and Lincoln, as well as high-achievement Blacks like Frederick Douglas and G.W. Carver. In public schools they (I went to parochial schools) recited the Lord's Prayer every day, not promoting any one religion but fundamentally acknowledging the fact that there was a Higher Power, and that there was an established moral code - usually illustrated by the Ten Commandments - that rightly governed the lives of Good Citizens, which we were all taught to be. Intact families were the Norm, and the unstated aspiration was that we would all grow up to be good parents and stewards of honorable families.

How do you quantify the lack of those factors in public education, or even indoctrination in the opposite direction?

Kids today are taught that there is nothing special about the United States...even that other countries are better. The country's flaws are discussed more than its fantastic accomplishments. No discussion of our great forbears passes without mentioning their critical faults, mainly that many of them owned slaves, so they were intrinsically evil. The Armed Forces are either ignored or ridiculed and there are essentially NO public school teachers who are military veterans. The Pledge of Allegiance is either ignored, or repeated with disdain and disrespect. The religious aspect of the few remaining faith-based holidays (Christmas, T'giving, and Easter) is either not mentioned or ridiculed. Kids are taught implicitly that the greatest determinant of "morality" is their own feelings, and what previous generations deemed sinful is A-OK as long as you don't get caught.

They are taught, not so much to respect the rights of others, but that aberrant life styles are "normal" and should be celebrated. When a kid - especially girls - "comes out" as a sexual irregular they are treated as celebrities. They are taught that any intra-student conflicts are "bullying," and that normal boy behavior is "wrong" and should be corrected with pharmaceuticals.

The teachers and Administration are uniformly liberal Democrats ("Progressives") and their formal and informal communications continually reflect this bias while trying to hide it or pretend that they are being objective.

Teachers will whine that none of this is true, but it is a matter of perspective. If you are sitting in a bar filled with Packer fans, don't expect an objective view of the officials' calls.

In my own family (I am 75) all of the millennials are irreligious, divorced, self-absorbed and self-satisfied, and still sponging off their parents as they approach middle age. Of course, they assure us that things are tougher now than when we were growing up and coming of age. Right.
 
Much of the indoctrination in schools is subtle or even hidden. Previous generations were taught that it was a great blessing to be an American, that we should "love" our country, and honor those who served it, especially in the Armed Forces. A significant percentage of high school boys aspired to join one of the services, if not to make it a career. We pledged allegiance every day and did not (generally) think it was stupid or lame. Study of American history highlighted the lives and achievements of our great predecessors like Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and Lincoln, as well as high-achievement Blacks like Frederick Douglas and G.W. Carver. In public schools they (I went to parochial schools) recited the Lord's Prayer every day, not promoting any one religion but fundamentally acknowledging the fact that there was a Higher Power, and that there was an established moral code - usually illustrated by the Ten Commandments - that rightly governed the lives of Good Citizens, which we were all taught to be. Intact families were the Norm, and the unstated aspiration was that we would all grow up to be good parents and stewards of honorable families.

How do you quantify the lack of those factors in public education, or even indoctrination in the opposite direction?

Kids today are taught that there is nothing special about the United States...even that other countries are better. The country's flaws are discussed more than its fantastic accomplishments. No discussion of our great forbears passes without mentioning their critical faults, mainly that many of them owned slaves, so they were intrinsically evil. The Armed Forces are either ignored or ridiculed and there are essentially NO public school teachers who are military veterans. The Pledge of Allegiance is either ignored, or repeated with disdain and disrespect. The religious aspect of the few remaining faith-based holidays (Christmas, T'giving, and Easter) is either not mentioned or ridiculed. Kids are taught implicitly that the greatest determinant of "morality" is their own feelings, and what previous generations deemed sinful is A-OK as long as you don't get caught.

They are taught, not so much to respect the rights of others, but that aberrant life styles are "normal" and should be celebrated. When a kid - especially girls - "comes out" as a sexual irregular they are treated as celebrities. They are taught that any intra-student conflicts are "bullying," and that normal boy behavior is "wrong" and should be corrected with pharmaceuticals.

The teachers and Administration are uniformly liberal Democrats ("Progressives") and their formal and informal communications continually reflect this bias while trying to hide it or pretend that they are being objective.

Teachers will whine that none of this is true, but it is a matter of perspective. If you are sitting in a bar filled with Packer fans, don't expect an objective view of the officials' calls.

In my own family (I am 75) all of the millennials are irreligious, divorced, self-absorbed and self-satisfied, and still sponging off their parents as they approach middle age. Of course, they assure us that things are tougher now than when we were growing up and coming of age. Right.
The above post ^^^ is a steaming pile of ignorant bullshit by a bigmouth douchebag who hasn't been anywhere near a school for decades.
 

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