Give us your tired, your poor...

[Iceweasel]

They don't. You keep making one idiotic comment after the next. The NT is called that for a reason so no, Christians do not live under the law of Moses. At least do SOME research.

You should take your own advice, sir.

As for denying Republicans and/or modern Christians don't abide by the Ten Commandments:

Republicans offer their home to the Ten Commandments monument in Oklahoma | Christian News on Christian Today
The Republican Party in Oklahoma has offered a new home to the Ten Commandments monument, which is set to be removed from the state capitol following a court order.

Estela Hernandez, interim chairperson of the Oklahoma Republican Party, said the monument can be displayed outside the Dewey Bartlett Center, the location of the Republican headquarters in Oklahoma City.


A court gave Oklahoma until Oct. 12 to remove the monument.

"It really defines us as a nation," said Hernandez, according to Reuters. "We really are a moral nation and, when we look at those laws that are enshrined in that monument, that's what we follow today."

It's the Oklahoma Republican party, not the national GOP party and having a monument doesn't mean they want it codified into law.

Nonetheless, a majority of Republicans do.

57% Of Republicans Say Dismantle Constitution And Make Christianity National Religion
....While a number of red states have passed statutes forbidding the implementation of Islam-based sharia law in their states, Republicans apparently have no misgivings about turning the United States into a Christian theocracy. The poll’s crosstabs reveal that support for making Christianity the official religion is strongest among Mike Huckabee (94 percent), Rick Perry (83 percent), and Ben Carson (78 percent) supporters.

Ben Carson is the preferred presidential candidate of those who want to impose Christianity on the nation with 24 percent support. Mike Huckabee and Scott Walker are tied for 2nd place at 16 percent. Scott Walker (35 percent) and Jeb Bush (22 percent) are the leading candidates among GOP voters who do not want to establish a national religion.

You'll believe anything! What does 94% support of Huckabee for a Christian religion even mean?

I heard them speak many times and establishing Christian law isn't what they want by any stretch. As I said above Christians do not even live under the law. You found an idiot to believe.

 

[blackhawk]

Yes as long as your tired, your poor,ect,ect come here through the legal process I don't think that is asking to much.

Why expect more from the poor than you do from the rich?

I expect it from both I know full well it doesn't always work that way but I don't believe in different sets of rules depending on income, gender, or race.

 

[Divine Wind]

They don't. You keep making one idiotic comment after the next. The NT is called that for a reason so no, Christians do not live under the law of Moses. At least do SOME research.

You should take your own advice, sir.

As for denying Republicans and/or modern Christians don't abide by the Ten Commandments:

Republicans offer their home to the Ten Commandments monument in Oklahoma | Christian News on Christian Today
The Republican Party in Oklahoma has offered a new home to the Ten Commandments monument, which is set to be removed from the state capitol following a court order.

Estela Hernandez, interim chairperson of the Oklahoma Republican Party, said the monument can be displayed outside the Dewey Bartlett Center, the location of the Republican headquarters in Oklahoma City.


A court gave Oklahoma until Oct. 12 to remove the monument.

"It really defines us as a nation," said Hernandez, according to Reuters. "We really are a moral nation and, when we look at those laws that are enshrined in that monument, that's what we follow today."

It's the Oklahoma Republican party, not the national GOP party and having a monument doesn't mean they want it codified into law.

Nonetheless, a majority of Republicans do.

57% Of Republicans Say Dismantle Constitution And Make Christianity National Religion
....While a number of red states have passed statutes forbidding the implementation of Islam-based sharia law in their states, Republicans apparently have no misgivings about turning the United States into a Christian theocracy. The poll’s crosstabs reveal that support for making Christianity the official religion is strongest among Mike Huckabee (94 percent), Rick Perry (83 percent), and Ben Carson (78 percent) supporters.

Ben Carson is the preferred presidential candidate of those who want to impose Christianity on the nation with 24 percent support. Mike Huckabee and Scott Walker are tied for 2nd place at 16 percent. Scott Walker (35 percent) and Jeb Bush (22 percent) are the leading candidates among GOP voters who do not want to establish a national religion.

You'll believe anything! What does 94% support of Huckabee for a Christian religion even mean?

I heard them speak many times and establishing Christian law isn't what they want by any stretch. As I said above Christians do not even live under the law. You found an idiot to believe.

Since you're such a great fan of the fucking Russians, maybe you'll believe Putin's propaganda machine Russian Television:

Over half of Republicans want to ignore Bill of Rights, make Christianity national religion
.....When asked if they supported “establishing Christianity as the national religion,” 57 percent of the Republicans surveyed told Public Policy Polling (PPP) that they were in favor. Three in ten opposed turning the US into a theocracy, while 13 percent were unsure.

The Bill of Rights expressly prohibits the government from promoting one religion over others: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” the Constitution’s First Amendment states.

Women were more likely to support the official establishment of Christianity in the US, with two-thirds – 66 percent – responding “yes” to the question, while less than half the men surveyed – 49 percent – chose that option.

READ MORE: Is ‘Year of the Bible’ making Christianity official religion of US?

“It’s convenient that Republicans are so willing to ignore the Bill of Rights when it conflicts with any aspect of Christianity, but if you even for one minute mention any form of gun control, then you’re trying to destroy the Constitution and ruin America,”Amy Eddings wrote for Ring of Fire Radio.

Science fared even worse than the First Amendment. The poll’s finding “supports the growing perception liberals have of conservatives,” meaning Republicans are “anti-science Christian theocrats,” the New Civil Rights Movement wrote.

Those Republican primary voters who identified as members of the Tea Party were less likely to believe in evolution – only 27 percent were fans of Charles Darwin’s theory – than the 46 percent who believe in evolution and did not identify as part of the ideological group. Overall, 37 percent of those surveyed believe in the theory, with less than half – 49 percent – disbelieving. A majority of Tea Party members – 61 percent – said they don’t accept the theory of evolution.

When it came to global warming, only a quarter of respondents said they believe in climate change, while two-thirds – 66 percent – do not. Self-identified Tea Party members were vehemently against the scientific phenomenon, with 91 percent being so-called “climate deniers.”

Women were more likely to believe in global warming, at 30 percent. Only 20 percent of men agreed. Meanwhile, women were less likely to believe in evolution – 30 percent, compared to 43 percent of males......

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[edward37]

Or it may simply mean we went to work. Unlike the libtards that live off welfare, we work.

tell that to all your welfare taking red states

Since they are posting well into normal working hours, they are either goofing off at their employers expense or unemployed.

Maybe they all have ""night"" jobs?

 

[edward37]

The point is the French were there when we needed them.

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Are you a Muslim or married to one?

God is great

Our supreme law of the land is better. What is not covered by our Ten Amendments.

What the heck happened to this thread? It was supposed to be a joke! If you guys gotta hate, I guess you gotta hate.

It's in their genes lol

 

[Iceweasel]

They don't. You keep making one idiotic comment after the next. The NT is called that for a reason so no, Christians do not live under the law of Moses. At least do SOME research.

You should take your own advice, sir.

As for denying Republicans and/or modern Christians don't abide by the Ten Commandments:

Republicans offer their home to the Ten Commandments monument in Oklahoma | Christian News on Christian Today
The Republican Party in Oklahoma has offered a new home to the Ten Commandments monument, which is set to be removed from the state capitol following a court order.

Estela Hernandez, interim chairperson of the Oklahoma Republican Party, said the monument can be displayed outside the Dewey Bartlett Center, the location of the Republican headquarters in Oklahoma City.


A court gave Oklahoma until Oct. 12 to remove the monument.

"It really defines us as a nation," said Hernandez, according to Reuters. "We really are a moral nation and, when we look at those laws that are enshrined in that monument, that's what we follow today."

It's the Oklahoma Republican party, not the national GOP party and having a monument doesn't mean they want it codified into law.

Nonetheless, a majority of Republicans do.

57% Of Republicans Say Dismantle Constitution And Make Christianity National Religion
....While a number of red states have passed statutes forbidding the implementation of Islam-based sharia law in their states, Republicans apparently have no misgivings about turning the United States into a Christian theocracy. The poll’s crosstabs reveal that support for making Christianity the official religion is strongest among Mike Huckabee (94 percent), Rick Perry (83 percent), and Ben Carson (78 percent) supporters.

Ben Carson is the preferred presidential candidate of those who want to impose Christianity on the nation with 24 percent support. Mike Huckabee and Scott Walker are tied for 2nd place at 16 percent. Scott Walker (35 percent) and Jeb Bush (22 percent) are the leading candidates among GOP voters who do not want to establish a national religion.

You'll believe anything! What does 94% support of Huckabee for a Christian religion even mean?

I heard them speak many times and establishing Christian law isn't what they want by any stretch. As I said above Christians do not even live under the law. You found an idiot to believe.

Since you're such a great fan of the fucking Russians, maybe you'll believe Putin's propaganda machine Russian Television:

Over half of Republicans want to ignore Bill of Rights, make Christianity national religion
.....When asked if they supported “establishing Christianity as the national religion,” 57 percent of the Republicans surveyed told Public Policy Polling (PPP) that they were in favor. Three in ten opposed turning the US into a theocracy, while 13 percent were unsure.

The Bill of Rights expressly prohibits the government from promoting one religion over others: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” the Constitution’s First Amendment states.

Women were more likely to support the official establishment of Christianity in the US, with two-thirds – 66 percent – responding “yes” to the question, while less than half the men surveyed – 49 percent – chose that option.

READ MORE: Is ‘Year of the Bible’ making Christianity official religion of US?

“It’s convenient that Republicans are so willing to ignore the Bill of Rights when it conflicts with any aspect of Christianity, but if you even for one minute mention any form of gun control, then you’re trying to destroy the Constitution and ruin America,”Amy Eddings wrote for Ring of Fire Radio.

Science fared even worse than the First Amendment. The poll’s finding “supports the growing perception liberals have of conservatives,” meaning Republicans are “anti-science Christian theocrats,” the New Civil Rights Movement wrote.

Those Republican primary voters who identified as members of the Tea Party were less likely to believe in evolution – only 27 percent were fans of Charles Darwin’s theory – than the 46 percent who believe in evolution and did not identify as part of the ideological group. Overall, 37 percent of those surveyed believe in the theory, with less than half – 49 percent – disbelieving. A majority of Tea Party members – 61 percent – said they don’t accept the theory of evolution.

When it came to global warming, only a quarter of respondents said they believe in climate change, while two-thirds – 66 percent – do not. Self-identified Tea Party members were vehemently against the scientific phenomenon, with 91 percent being so-called “climate deniers.”

Women were more likely to believe in global warming, at 30 percent. Only 20 percent of men agreed. Meanwhile, women were less likely to believe in evolution – 30 percent, compared to 43 percent of males......

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A fan of the Russians? Are you on the rag? Go find a quote by Huckabee claiming he wants to establish a state religion. Should be all over the net. Instead you rely on smear pieces. What a loser!

 

[Pete7469]

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

We have enough of the world's tired and poor..

Many of those who came "yearning to breathe free" helped elect the sorts of sociopaths that made europe the shit hole it is.

Kinda like when Commiefornians flee the insane democrook policies and move to TX, then vote for more democrooks.

Furthermore the illegals do not value freedom or capitalism, they exploit these things while undermining them.

So the rest of the world can keep their wretched refuse of their teeming shores, Spare us these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, I lift my shotgun and deny them passage.

 

[Divine Wind]

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Are you a Muslim or married to one?

God is great

Our supreme law of the land is better. What is not covered by our Ten Amendments.

What the heck happened to this thread? It was supposed to be a joke! If you guys gotta hate, I guess you gotta hate.

It's in their genes lol

Which reminds me of some humor dating back to the 80s or 90s. I forget who first said it, but it's funny because it's true:

Democrats believe nothing is genetic except homosexuality and Republicans believe everything is genetic except homosexuality.

 

[danielpalos]

The point is the French were there when we needed them.

3 Comments

Are you a Muslim or married to one?

God is great

Our supreme law of the land is better. What is not covered by our Ten Amendments.

What the heck happened to this thread? It was supposed to be a joke! If you guys gotta hate, I guess you gotta hate.

You have me confused with gun lovers. 10USC311 is a federal law of the land.

“Men did not love Rome because she was great. She was great because they had loved her.”

― G.K. Chesterton

 

[danielpalos]

Yes as long as your tired, your poor,ect,ect come here through the legal process I don't think that is asking to much.

Why expect more from the poor than you do from the rich?

I expect it from both I know full well it doesn't always work that way but I don't believe in different sets of rules depending on income, gender, or race.

all talk and no action?

when is the national socialist right wing, going to drug test CEOs and deny them steak and lobster privileges for not having a Jobs Boom that causes wages to outpace inflation, for their capital gains preference.

Do Only the Poor, have to Work for it?

 

[blackhawk]

Yes as long as your tired, your poor,ect,ect come here through the legal process I don't think that is asking to much.

Why expect more from the poor than you do from the rich?

I expect it from both I know full well it doesn't always work that way but I don't believe in different sets of rules depending on income, gender, or race.

all talk and no action?

when is the national socialist right wing, going to drug test CEOs and deny them steak and lobster privileges for not having a Jobs Boom that causes wages to outpace inflation, for their capital gains preference.

Do Only the Poor, have to Work for it?

Sorry going to have to end this I don't converse on this level of stupid have a nice day.

 

[Divine Wind]

A fan of the Russians? Are you on the rag? Go find a quote by Huckabee claiming he wants to establish a state religion. Should be all over the net. Instead you rely on smear pieces. What a loser!

I apologize if I confused you with a Putin cocksucker. Just so we're clear, you do not support Putin or any other fucking Russians?

As for Huckabee:
The Raw Story | Huckabee: Amend Constitution to be in 'God's standards'
"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution," Huckabee told a Michigan audience on Monday. "But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."

 

[Iceweasel]

A fan of the Russians? Are you on the rag? Go find a quote by Huckabee claiming he wants to establish a state religion. Should be all over the net. Instead you rely on smear pieces. What a loser!

I apologize if I confused you with a Putin cocksucker. Just so we're clear, you do not support Putin or any other fucking Russians?

As for Huckabee:
The Raw Story | Huckabee: Amend Constitution to be in 'God's standards'
"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution," Huckabee told a Michigan audience on Monday. "But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."

It's cherry picking just the way you like it. Sorry if I thought you had a brain but that was awhile back. The subjects were abortion and marriage. Not creating a Christian theocracy.

 

[danielpalos]

Yes as long as your tired, your poor,ect,ect come here through the legal process I don't think that is asking to much.

Why expect more from the poor than you do from the rich?

I expect it from both I know full well it doesn't always work that way but I don't believe in different sets of rules depending on income, gender, or race.

all talk and no action?

when is the national socialist right wing, going to drug test CEOs and deny them steak and lobster privileges for not having a Jobs Boom that causes wages to outpace inflation, for their capital gains preference.

Do Only the Poor, have to Work for it?

Sorry going to have to end this I don't converse on this level of stupid have a nice day.

How "brave" of the US, national socialist right wing. all they do, is abandon their positions when faced with a valid argument.

 

[Divine Wind]

Yes as long as your tired, your poor,ect,ect come here through the legal process I don't think that is asking to much.

Why expect more from the poor than you do from the rich?

I expect it from both I know full well it doesn't always work that way but I don't believe in different sets of rules depending on income, gender, or race.

Agreed 100% here. The current political penchant toward "special rules for special people" has only blown up in our faces no matter which side is pushing it. The 14th Amendment Equal Protection clause means everyone should be treated the same.

"....No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws"

SCOTUS has ruled on the Equal Protection Clause a few times: http://constitution.findlaw.co
m/amendment14/annotation18.html#t94
"''These provisions are universal in their application, to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction, without regard to any differences of race, of color, or of nationality. . .''

 

[Divine Wind]

It's cherry picking just the way you like it. Sorry if I thought you had a brain but that was awhile back. The subjects were abortion and marriage. Not creating a Christian theocracy.

Call it what you like. I'm free to disagree and others are free to decide for themselves which of us, if not to both of us, are fucking morons. What I'm sure most will know for sure is that I'm not a Russophile nor do I support Putin's actions against the United States.

 

[Divine Wind]

Or it may simply mean we went to work. Unlike the libtards that live off welfare, we work.

tell that to all your welfare taking red states

Since they are posting well into normal working hours, they are either goofing off at their employers expense or unemployed.

Maybe they all have ""night"" jobs?

Maintenance engineers and Uber drivers are honorable professions.

Seriously, I never look down on someone who is doing honest work. I do, however, confess to having a strong dislike of hypocrites no matter what occupation they are employed.

 

[danielpalos]

Yes as long as your tired, your poor,ect,ect come here through the legal process I don't think that is asking to much.

Why expect more from the poor than you do from the rich?

I expect it from both I know full well it doesn't always work that way but I don't believe in different sets of rules depending on income, gender, or race.

Agreed 100% here. The current political penchant toward "special rules for special people" has only blown up in our faces no matter which side is pushing it. The 14th Amendment Equal Protection clause means everyone should be treated the same.

"....No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws"

SCOTUS has ruled on the Equal Protection Clause a few times: http://constitution.findlaw.co
m/amendment14/annotation18.html#t94
"''These provisions are universal in their application, to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction, without regard to any differences of race, of color, or of nationality. . .''

just more national socialist propaganda?

We have a federal doctrine and State laws regarding the legal concept of employment at will.

Only the liberal socialist left wing, is advocating for equal protection of the law, for unemployment compensation purposes.

 

[Iceweasel]

It's cherry picking just the way you like it. Sorry if I thought you had a brain but that was awhile back. The subjects were abortion and marriage. Not creating a Christian theocracy.

Call it what you like. I'm free to disagree and others are free to decide for themselves which of us, if not to both of us, are fucking morons. What I'm sure most will know for sure is that I'm not a Russophile nor do I support Putin's actions against the United States.

It's got nothing to do with me calling it the way I like. You found a cherry picked piece that failed to look at the context. And I have no idea where you're trying to go with Putin or Rush. Accuracy is not your goal.

 

[Divine Wind]

Yes as long as your tired, your poor,ect,ect come here through the legal process I don't think that is asking to much.

Why expect more from the poor than you do from the rich?

I expect it from both I know full well it doesn't always work that way but I don't believe in different sets of rules depending on income, gender, or race.

Agreed 100% here. The current political penchant toward "special rules for special people" has only blown up in our faces no matter which side is pushing it. The 14th Amendment Equal Protection clause means everyone should be treated the same.

"....No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws"

SCOTUS has ruled on the Equal Protection Clause a few times: http://constitution.findlaw.co
m/amendment14/annotation18.html#t94
"''These provisions are universal in their application, to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction, without regard to any differences of race, of color, or of nationality. . .''

just more national socialist propaganda?

We have a federal doctrine and State laws regarding the legal concept of employment at will.

Only the liberal socialist left wing, is advocating for equal protection of the law, for unemployment compensation purposes.

Although I lean right on some issues, I'm anti-authoritarian, which means I'm against both fucking RW Nazis and fucking LW Socialists.

As for welfare, our government should always, and only, act in accordance with our Constitution. I know that gets bent out of shape by some such as throwing money at an able-bodied person from womb to tomb is construed as "promote the general Welfare", which it obviously does not.

OTOH, infrastructure and national projects cost money be it the national interstate system or Apollo space program, but such programs also provide a substantial return to American taxpayers. The Interstate Highway system saw a $6 return for every $1 invested and NASA provides a $7-$8 return for every dollar invested.

Getting back to and tying this to the "joke" OP, our government isn't a charity. It should only act for the benefit of those who gave it its charter: the American taxpayer. That said, our nation benefits from the fresh blood of immigrants, always has, and it should continue to do so for decades to come. We need to find a better way of handling this.

The US Interstate Highway System: 40 Year Report
It has returned more than $6 in economic productivity for each $1 it cost.


NASA Research Finds Way Into IT, Consumer Products
Hubbard also pointed out that NASA engineers have worked "hand-in-hand" with businesses and universities to help develop a variety of technologies, including microelectromechanical systems, supercomputers and microcomputers, software and microprocessors.

Overall, Hubbard added, $7 or $8 in goods and services are produced for every $1 that the government invests in NASA.

The benefits of NASA research are clear, even without the embellishment of myths. For example, the space agency did not invent the powdered beverage Tang, and its engineers did not develop the microwave oven....

...."Private industry has developed a lot of great things, but what comes out of our space program is a cut above what private industry could do," said Thompson. "Private industry wouldn't be as patient as NASA is in developing technology. [Industry] has Wall Street demands and stockholders, so it's hard to put the time and money into something that won't have a quick return on investment."