Gingrich fears 'atheist country ... dominated by radical Islamists'

[hortysir]

“a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists,”

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Isn't that a contradiction?

 

[WillFranklin]

We should fear control by any religious theocracy, including our current demise having the Jews in control of everything, all the time. They poisoned me.

 

[bucs90]

Ok, so why is one instance of a dozen muslims killing thousands an epidemic to you but a nationwide instance of christians killing isn't being made a huge deal on a message board by you?

I know the answer, it's because those christians share your god.

It's not rare to hear a story on the news of a christian attacking a doctor, or a christian parent refusing medical treatment for their child, or a christian killing because "God told them to." But you just make light of it because they share your religion, when the other religion does the exact same thing is when you break into hysterics.

It is, just on a different site: Police & Law Enforcement - Officer.com Police News, Forums, Links and More for Police Officers, Law Enforcement, Corrections, Sheriffs and More

The "Christian killings" are also precisely targeted. Not just blowing oneself up in a market or blowing up buildings full of thousands of people. STILL just as wrong and immoral.

When a Christian does something awful, we don't have entire cities celebrating with cookies and drinks, like Palestine did last week when the family of 5 in Israel was massacred in the middle of the night. We strongly condemn and expell our killers. Islam worships theirs.

And we're also starting to get into the world of mental illness, with "God told me to" stuff. People with extreme mental illness do evil shit. I'd say that could explain the widespread problem of radical Islam. But when their literature and preachers are promoting it, then it's hard to write it off as a mental illness and not just a cancer of a religion.

 

[bucs90]

We should fear control by any religious theocracy, including our current demise having the Jews in control of everything, all the time. They poisoned me.

Obama is a Jew?

 

[Dr.Drock]

It is, just on a different site: Police & Law Enforcement - Officer.com Police News, Forums, Links and More for Police Officers, Law Enforcement, Corrections, Sheriffs and More

The "Christian killings" are also precisely targeted. Not just blowing oneself up in a market or blowing up buildings full of thousands of people. STILL just as wrong and immoral.

When a Christian does something awful, we don't have entire cities celebrating with cookies and drinks, like Palestine did last week when the family of 5 in Israel was massacred in the middle of the night. We strongly condemn and expell our killers. Islam worships theirs.

And we're also starting to get into the world of mental illness, with "God told me to" stuff. People with extreme mental illness do evil shit. I'd say that could explain the widespread problem of radical Islam. But when their literature and preachers are promoting it, then it's hard to write it off as a mental illness and not just a cancer of a religion.

I don't see the difference in killing, I'd rather have a psychopath kill 10 people including himself than one killing 10 people and running away. Both are equally morally disgusting, the fact that one involves suicide and one doesn't is inconsequential to me.

So in your opinion people in this country don't pat Israel on the back when they attack Palestine? Israel murders palestinians, palestinianis murder israelis, one is excused because they share your god and skin color. Both are equally disgusting to me, it's just that israeli's have american weapons so they're a lot more effective at killing than palestinians.

It sounds like you're starting to get it, it's a mental problem, a mental problem any percentage of human beings of any religion will happen. Humans can be crazy, but pointing out that one group of billions is crazier than another group of a billion is silly to me. The law of averages cancels all that out.

The issues you're pointing out are problems with humankind in general, not problems specific to one religion.

 

[bucs90]

I don't see the difference in killing, I'd rather have a psychopath kill 10 people including himself than one killing 10 people and running away. Both are equally morally disgusting, the fact that one involves suicide and one doesn't is inconsequential to me.

So in your opinion people in this country don't pat Israel on the back when they attack Palestine? Israel murders palestinians, palestinianis murder israelis, one is excused because they share your god and skin color. Both are equally disgusting to me, it's just that israeli's have american weapons so they're a lot more effective at killing than palestinians.

It sounds like you're starting to get it, it's a mental problem, a mental problem any percentage of human beings of any religion will happen. Humans can be crazy, but pointing out that one group of billions is crazier than another group of a billion is silly to me. The law of averages cancels all that out.

The issues you're pointing out are problems with humankind in general, not problems specific to one religion.

I don't think Israel is attacking Palestine. Israel was attacked by a coalition of Arab forces in 1967, the Six Day War. Israel won, in dominant fashion, and kept the land they took in a war, a war that they did not start. They are not obligated to give that land back. They are obligated, however, to protect their people and that is what they are doing.

If Palestine stops attacking Israel, there will be peace. If Israel stops striking Palestine, there will not be peace. It's a simple equation.

And yes, it's a mental problem. However, without intervention, the issue of Islam will foster that mental problem within it's ranks to commit mass horros on behalf of Allah. No such equal is occurring in the name of Jesus, or Buddah, or Scuzzlebutt.

Suicide bombings are almost 100% exclusive to 1 religion. Sorry, thats just true.

 

[Dr.Drock]

I don't think Israel is attacking Palestine. Israel was attacked by a coalition of Arab forces in 1967, the Six Day War. Israel won, in dominant fashion, and kept the land they took in a war, a war that they did not start. They are not obligated to give that land back. They are obligated, however, to protect their people and that is what they are doing.

If Palestine stops attacking Israel, there will be peace. If Israel stops striking Palestine, there will not be peace. It's a simple equation.

And yes, it's a mental problem. However, without intervention, the issue of Islam will foster that mental problem within it's ranks to commit mass horros on behalf of Allah. No such equal is occurring in the name of Jesus, or Buddah, or Scuzzlebutt.

Suicide bombings are almost 100% exclusive to 1 religion. Sorry, thats just true.

And modern wars are almost 100% exclusive to one religion, both are disgusting but i guess if i had to choose one it'd be an easy choice.

agree to disagree, I can't talk you out of hate I guess.

 

[bodecea]

None of you liberal retards have any reading comprehension. Newts fear is a sociological theory that has been around for decades, I learned of it in college sociology class in the early 90's. A nation becomes secular (meaning religious influence is highly diminished, not extinct) and it ignores and underestimates a radical religious group, because in the society's view, no one could be that motivated by religion....because most of them aren't religious. That secular society then falls under the radical religion, because they didn't take it seriously.

I think he's right. I think retard atheists look at radical Islam as a joke. They underestimate it. In their minds, no one would be that crazy over a petty religion, not enough to go to war and kill innocents. So, they minimalize that and go on with their lives. Before you know it, it's too late.

So Newts question, I think, is this; Are we gonna take radical Islam seriously, or not?

So secular Turkey is more tolerant of radical Islamic fundamentalism than Iran is? Than Afghanistan under the Taliban was?

lololol

 

[bodecea]

I can check. Furman Univ, 1989-1993, I can dig up the old sociology required texts if it were necessary.

And since you bring it up, yeah, some texts from my college did bring up the possibility that evolution is a myth. They pointed to the missing fossils of Darwins theory,

There are no "missing fossils" needed.

and many other inconsistencies, BUT also pointed out the strong case for it. You know....discussing both sides of issues. Furman encourages that. They spoke of early science showing that a creator was not only possibly, be almost likely. That science has grown stronger since the 90's also, btw. My favorite reading into that topic spoke of evolution as a vessel in which the creator pushes life's destiny. That evolution uses the knowledge planted in DNA to make things happen, but a creator programmed that DNA, like a hard drive.

We call that "Intelligent Design", and if it's taught in a science department - as opposed to a philosophy or sociology department - the professor is making shit up. There is zero scientific evidence supporting ID.

If you believe that, then your education has been very one sided. There is a mountain of science suggesting ID could be fact, independent of or along with evolution.

I'm not hard on either side of this issue, thus, I've had an open mind to read and consider all sides and ideas. Hard athetists or hard religious types refuse to acknowledge or even consider the opposing side. I have not, and there is a lot out there supporting both sides, and the more I read on it, the more I find that we know less about our origin with the more we learn about it.

OMIGOD! One of those!

 

[bucs90]

And modern wars are almost 100% exclusive to one religion, both are disgusting but i guess if i had to choose one it'd be an easy choice.

agree to disagree, I can't talk you out of hate I guess.

Nice touch at the end with "hate" douchebag. Last resort, you may have well have played the race card. But I do hate Islam, so whatever.

You're right. Modern wars such as the one in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, are the result of trying to contain crazy ******* Islamic radicals.

 

[bucs90]

There are no "missing fossils" needed.



We call that "Intelligent Design", and if it's taught in a science department - as opposed to a philosophy or sociology department - the professor is making shit up. There is zero scientific evidence supporting ID.

If you believe that, then your education has been very one sided. There is a mountain of science suggesting ID could be fact, independent of or along with evolution.

I'm not hard on either side of this issue, thus, I've had an open mind to read and consider all sides and ideas. Hard athetists or hard religious types refuse to acknowledge or even consider the opposing side. I have not, and there is a lot out there supporting both sides, and the more I read on it, the more I find that we know less about our origin with the more we learn about it.

OMIGOD! One of those!

And rolling smiley faces is the best comeback you have for it? Because I can link all day books by scientists who show the science behind the idea that there is a soul, an afterlife and possibly even a God.

 

[bodecea]

If you believe that, then your education has been very one sided. There is a mountain of science suggesting ID could be fact, independent of or along with evolution.

I'm not hard on either side of this issue, thus, I've had an open mind to read and consider all sides and ideas. Hard athetists or hard religious types refuse to acknowledge or even consider the opposing side. I have not, and there is a lot out there supporting both sides, and the more I read on it, the more I find that we know less about our origin with the more we learn about it.

OMIGOD! One of those!

And rolling smiley faces is the best comeback you have for it? Because I can link all day books by scientists who show the science behind the idea that there is a soul, an afterlife and possibly even a God.

That's pretty much what ID deserves...a hearty guffaw.

 

[Dr.Drock]

Nice touch at the end with "hate" douchebag. Last resort, you may have well have played the race card. But I do hate Islam, so whatever.

You're right. Modern wars such as the one in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, are the result of trying to contain crazy ******* Islamic radicals.

I said I can't talk you out of hate, you tell me I'm right, but at the same time you're so offended you stoop to childish name-calling. Hard to figure out. Are you offended because what I said is wrong or are you offended by the very being of what you are?


You've done a beautiful job of excusing what people who share your god do. I can only imagine what you'd be saying if the shoe were on the other foot and it were muslims murdering hundreds of thousands of christians under the same excuses you give us.

 

[BlindBoo]

I don't think Israel is attacking Palestine. Israel was attacked by a coalition of Arab forces in 1967, the Six Day War. Israel won, in dominant fashion, and kept the land they took in a war, a war that they did not start. They are not obligated to give that land back. They are obligated, however, to protect their people and that is what they are doing.

If Palestine stops attacking Israel, there will be peace. If Israel stops striking Palestine, there will not be peace. It's a simple equation.

And yes, it's a mental problem. However, without intervention, the issue of Islam will foster that mental problem within it's ranks to commit mass horros on behalf of Allah. No such equal is occurring in the name of Jesus, or Buddah, or Scuzzlebutt.

Suicide bombings are almost 100% exclusive to 1 religion. Sorry, thats just true.

Who started the war?

The Six-Day War started with a far-reaching air attack, code named “Moked”, to shatter the Arab air forces while their aircraft were still on the ground. A massive, simultaneous attack by Israeli first-line aircraft was launched on the morning of June 5 against all Egyptian air force bases in Sinai and Egypt, the main Arab air force.Approximately 300 Egyptian aircraft, including bombers, combat planes and helicopters, were destroyed in less than 2 hours, eliminating the main air threat against Israel.

Course of The Six Day War

Israel returned the Sinai to Egypt for a peace deal.

 

[HUGGY]

Is there any doubt that the Christian Fundamentalists in the country are STUCK ON STUPID?????

Why do you guys keep falling for people like Palin and Trump and Gingrich? I want my party back ...you Bozo's just never get it and I'm tired of guys like Clinton and Obama walking all over your dumb asses.

Oh and for you HouseGimp...you needle dick little fuckwad.... If you were drowning...I would piss on you.

How does it feel to be the biggest ***** on USMB?

 

[NYcarbineer]

[Suicide bombings are almost 100% exclusive to 1 religion. Sorry, thats just true.

Most suicide bombings are carried out as a response to a foreign power's occupation of or unwelcome presence in the homeland of those who do the bombings.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Newt got freaked out over fundamentalist Islam right after he found out what they do to adulterers.

 

[3DG4life]

Gingrich fears 'atheist country … dominated by radical Islamists' – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

Hours after declaring Sunday that he expects to be running for president within a month, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said he's worried the United States could be “a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists,” in the foreseeable future, according to Politico.

Gingrich was addressing Cornerstone Church, a megachurch in San Antonio, Texas, led by the Rev. John Hagee, an influential leader among American evangelicals. Hagee's endorsement of then-presidential candidate John McCain in 2008 was plagued by controversy.

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And that, boys and girls, is the 2012 Republican intellectual heavyweight!

 

[rightwinger]

Newt got freaked out over fundamentalist Islam right after he found out what they do to adulterers.

You may be on to something

 

[kaz]

Newt got freaked out over fundamentalist Islam right after he found out what they do to adulterers.

You may be on to something

You nailed this one. Oops, my bad. I just re-read your post, I thought you said he was on something...