Germany Scales Back on Wind Energy Because Its Not Working

[Sunsettommy]

Meanwhile, back in reality, wind turbine use is still exploding across the USA, because it's so profitable.

Iowa Nears 60% Wind Energy Generation Milestone - Iowa Environmental Council

www.iaenvironment.org

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Iowa reached an impressive clean energy milestone in 2020, according to data recently released from the Energy Information Administration (EIA). Iowa produced the highest percentage of electricity by wind of any state, at 59.6%. This figure represents a sharp increase from 2019, which had the state at 42% electricity from wind.
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Wind power is an amazing free market succes in the USA, which causes Trump cultists to hate it even more. You don't have to despise the free market to be a Trump cultist ... oh wait, you do. In the Trump cult, Marxism is mandatory. TheParty, and not the free market, decides what the power grid should be like, regardless of what it costs or how often it fails (see: Texas).

What a terrible reader you are!

From YOUR link:

"Data from the US Energy Information Administration show that in the US, we use the more than 100,000 MW installed wind capacity only a third of the time. The only way we would be able to utilize wind like mineral energies to generate electricity is for the wind to blow 24/7, 365 days a year, at a steady 30 mph or so."

and,

"Iowa boasts that 40% of our electricity is generated by wind turbines. But remember that that is still only about 4% of all the energy we consume, and we are only 1% of the US population. That 4% has already covered about 1,500,000 of our acres with industrial wind projects, negatively affecting homes and businesses within as well as on the perimeters of these project areas. And taxpayers around the country have to make up the taxes that Iowa-based wind projects allow utilities to escape."

bolding mine
=====

From post one article YOU didn't read:

"No longer economical without the subsidy

The three wind turbines together generated 2 million kWh of electricity annually, meaning 666,666 kWh/ turbine per year. But now that the subsidies have ended, owner Horst Mengels explains he can no longer operate the turbines economically at electricity market prices of less than three, sometimes even one cent. Meanwhile private consumers of electricity now have to pay 30 cents and more for a kWh. Repair and maintenance of the turbines are no longer possible at the low market prices."


You are one dumb ignorant dishonest shit!

Screw market price! That's what caused the collapse of Texas electric grid & electric bills of $7,000 per day per house. There is no energy source costing 1 cent!!!

I will not follow your smelly butt in your desperate attempt to get me to be let astray with your deflecting bullshit.

 

[Sunsettommy]

This is yet another example of the Costanza Rule for evaluating the Leftwing Agenda. Whatever the Lefties say, assume the opposite is true.

Germany has had years of brown outs and lower income people turning off their electricity and heating for part of the day because costs of skyrocketed.

France, on the other hand, has gone almost full nuclear power, with no problems.

Which one should we emulate and which one do the Lefties choose?

I am a solar generator and user of electricity.

How much of your solar generation has been subsidized with Tax Credits and mandated purchases by the local utility?

Were your solar panels made by slave labor in China?

My generation is for me and I am not mandated to have solar, I want it so i am free of the utility companies. My panels were made in Fremont.

That is fine and your right to do that.

 

[KissMy]

Meanwhile, back in reality, wind turbine use is still exploding across the USA, because it's so profitable.

Iowa Nears 60% Wind Energy Generation Milestone - Iowa Environmental Council

www.iaenvironment.org

---
Iowa reached an impressive clean energy milestone in 2020, according to data recently released from the Energy Information Administration (EIA). Iowa produced the highest percentage of electricity by wind of any state, at 59.6%. This figure represents a sharp increase from 2019, which had the state at 42% electricity from wind.
---

Wind power is an amazing free market succes in the USA, which causes Trump cultists to hate it even more. You don't have to despise the free market to be a Trump cultist ... oh wait, you do. In the Trump cult, Marxism is mandatory. TheParty, and not the free market, decides what the power grid should be like, regardless of what it costs or how often it fails (see: Texas).

What a terrible reader you are!

From YOUR link:

"Data from the US Energy Information Administration show that in the US, we use the more than 100,000 MW installed wind capacity only a third of the time. The only way we would be able to utilize wind like mineral energies to generate electricity is for the wind to blow 24/7, 365 days a year, at a steady 30 mph or so."

and,

"Iowa boasts that 40% of our electricity is generated by wind turbines. But remember that that is still only about 4% of all the energy we consume, and we are only 1% of the US population. That 4% has already covered about 1,500,000 of our acres with industrial wind projects, negatively affecting homes and businesses within as well as on the perimeters of these project areas. And taxpayers around the country have to make up the taxes that Iowa-based wind projects allow utilities to escape."

bolding mine
=====

From post one article YOU didn't read:

"No longer economical without the subsidy

The three wind turbines together generated 2 million kWh of electricity annually, meaning 666,666 kWh/ turbine per year. But now that the subsidies have ended, owner Horst Mengels explains he can no longer operate the turbines economically at electricity market prices of less than three, sometimes even one cent. Meanwhile private consumers of electricity now have to pay 30 cents and more for a kWh. Repair and maintenance of the turbines are no longer possible at the low market prices."


You are one dumb ignorant dishonest shit!

Screw market price! That's what caused the collapse of Texas electric grid & electric bills of $7,000 per day per house. There is no energy source costing 1 cent!!!

I will not follow your smelly butt in your desperate attempt to get me to be let astray with your deflecting bullshit.

I replied to your quote: "Horst Mengels explains he can no longer operate the turbines economically at electricity market prices of less than three, sometimes even one cent. Meanwhile private consumers of electricity now have to pay 30 cents and more for a kWh."

Screw market price! That's what caused the collapse of Texas electric grid & electric bills of $7,000 per day per house. There is no energy source costing 1 cent!!!

 

[zaangalewa]

Germany Scales Back on Wind Energy Because Its Not Working

Prof. Stinkelgruber was quoted as having said about wind energy in the New Berliner Times:
"The whole project has been nothing but a gas bag of hot air from the very beginning if you ask me."

Who says what? "Stinkelgruber" sounds very funny in German and as far as I am able to see this name not exists in Germany. I guess someone made a joke with you or you are the joker now.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Meanwhile, back in reality, wind turbine use is still exploding across the USA, because it's so profitable.

Iowa Nears 60% Wind Energy Generation Milestone - Iowa Environmental Council

www.iaenvironment.org

---
Iowa reached an impressive clean energy milestone in 2020, according to data recently released from the Energy Information Administration (EIA). Iowa produced the highest percentage of electricity by wind of any state, at 59.6%. This figure represents a sharp increase from 2019, which had the state at 42% electricity from wind.
---

Wind power is an amazing free market succes in the USA, which causes Trump cultists to hate it even more. You don't have to despise the free market to be a Trump cultist ... oh wait, you do. In the Trump cult, Marxism is mandatory. TheParty, and not the free market, decides what the power grid should be like, regardless of what it costs or how often it fails (see: Texas).

What a terrible reader you are!

From YOUR link:

"Data from the US Energy Information Administration show that in the US, we use the more than 100,000 MW installed wind capacity only a third of the time. The only way we would be able to utilize wind like mineral energies to generate electricity is for the wind to blow 24/7, 365 days a year, at a steady 30 mph or so."

and,

"Iowa boasts that 40% of our electricity is generated by wind turbines. But remember that that is still only about 4% of all the energy we consume, and we are only 1% of the US population. That 4% has already covered about 1,500,000 of our acres with industrial wind projects, negatively affecting homes and businesses within as well as on the perimeters of these project areas. And taxpayers around the country have to make up the taxes that Iowa-based wind projects allow utilities to escape."

bolding mine
=====

From post one article YOU didn't read:

"No longer economical without the subsidy

The three wind turbines together generated 2 million kWh of electricity annually, meaning 666,666 kWh/ turbine per year. But now that the subsidies have ended, owner Horst Mengels explains he can no longer operate the turbines economically at electricity market prices of less than three, sometimes even one cent. Meanwhile private consumers of electricity now have to pay 30 cents and more for a kWh. Repair and maintenance of the turbines are no longer possible at the low market prices."


You are one dumb ignorant dishonest shit!

Screw market price! That's what caused the collapse of Texas electric grid & electric bills of $7,000 per day per house. There is no energy source costing 1 cent!!!

I will not follow your smelly butt in your desperate attempt to get me to be let astray with your deflecting bullshit.

I replied to your quote: "Horst Mengels explains he can no longer operate the turbines economically at electricity market prices of less than three, sometimes even one cent. Meanwhile private consumers of electricity now have to pay 30 cents and more for a kWh."

Screw market price! That's what caused the collapse of Texas electric grid & electric bills of $7,000 per day per house. There is no energy source costing 1 cent!!!

You are full of crap, you are ignoring what is going on in............ GERMANY!

 

[daveman]

Very short to the wrongly quoted nonsense here: A problem in context "lower expansion speed of wind power facilities in Germany" is the very limited space in Germany. As an illustration: If the USA had the same population density as it is in Germany then 8 billlion people would live in the USA now.

Air traffic control systems for example prevent windcraft facilities - because it needs a distance of 10 miles between radar control systems, radio beacons and windcraft facilities. A problem in this context is for example the USA. No one needs radio beacons any longer, if someone is using GPS. But GPS is not a reliable system, because the USA is not a reliable nation. And the European alternative system "Galileo" is under pressure - because of mysteries - since a very long time now. By the way: Do you have a mystery creating secret service full of liars in the USA?

"No one needs radio beacons any longer, if someone is using GPS. But GPS is not a reliable system..."

You just explained why radio beacons are necessary.

If they would not be necessary (emergency case, if the USA is switching off GPS) we could build about 1,100 windcraft facilities.

Air traffic control systems don't prevent windpower facilities from being built near airports -- air traffic safety exclusion zones do that. You go and build tall shit around an airport, and people are going to get killed.

 

[KissMy]

The OP is Full of Crap!!!

Wind energy replaces coal as Germany’s biggest energy source in 2020

 

[Sunsettommy]

The OP is Full of Crap!!!

Wind energy replaces coal as Germany’s biggest energy source in 2020

You haven't read the post one article where they show what GOVERNMENT officials, German builders and the German media are saying, Pierre the blog author actually lives in Germany!

 

[Manonthestreet]

Climate Insanity: German Greens, Conservatives Push For 100s Of Wind Turbines In Black Forest! (notrickszone.com)

Commies never were important there. In Baden Würtemberg exists currently an alliance in the government between the Green party and the Christian democratic union. The CDU is a conservative party.

And it nervs that nearly always everything is wrong what US-Americans say about Germany.

Anyway we must chop the forest down to save the planet

 

[mamooth]

The hypocrite strikes again!

Your butthurt is tedious. Try to stay on topic.

This jerk demanded that I discuss my own thread

And sweet mother of god, did that trigger you. But that's not the topic here. Now, I'll do what you hate most, which is address the topic. From one of the sources ...

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The share of renewable energy in Germany's energy consumption reached a record of 43% in the first nine months of 2019, figures from utilities association BDEW and research foundation ZSW show.
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43%! That's an amazing success. Not being able to deny that, the deniers claim that since the stunning record of success can't extend upwards forever, it's really a total failure.

 

[Flash]

Everything the Left does ends up hurting people.


The German government loves to talk about the importance of green energies, but when it comes to their expansion, it is in fact doing the opposite: Old wind turbines are being removed without being replaced by new generation turbines.

Perhaps it’s beginning dawn on the German government that especially wind and solar energy just aren’t working out, and so they have massively scaled back subsidies with the aim of scaling them back. […]

The NDR [German public television] reports that in the coming years, 16 GW of wind power will be removed from the subsidy system. Almost two-thirds of this may not be replaced by new, more powerful ones.

As far as Altenstedt goes, where the three featured turbines are being dismantled, the NDR reports: “No more wind turbines may be built in Altenstedt, there are no more planning permits. The energy transition is now history here.

The remaining infrastructure: transmission lines, access roads, transformers etc. are available and are now no longer being used. In Altenstedt they will probably become the first relics of a past idea that went sour.

Germany’s Windexit…Old Wind Turbines Dismantled Without Replacement…Looming “Massive Power Outage”?

notrickszone.com

Wind power was one of the dumbest ideas ever imagined. If you lived in rural Alaska, had no other power and could figure out a way to keep everything from freezing up they may give you a little bit power sometimes but otherwise it is a waste.

All the wind farms in the world are heavily subsidized by the stupid governments and that is the only reason they are in operation. Their would never be economically viable on their own.

However these Moon bats are too dumb to understand Science and Engineering and they will continue to have their wet dreams about "clean" power.

 

[Flash]

The birds in Germany will be damn glad the Krauts have come to their senses.

 

[Crick]

Everything the Left does ends up hurting people.


The German government loves to talk about the importance of green energies, but when it comes to their expansion, it is in fact doing the opposite: Old wind turbines are being removed without being replaced by new generation turbines.

Perhaps it’s beginning dawn on the German government that especially wind and solar energy just aren’t working out, and so they have massively scaled back subsidies with the aim of scaling them back. […]

The NDR [German public television] reports that in the coming years, 16 GW of wind power will be removed from the subsidy system. Almost two-thirds of this may not be replaced by new, more powerful ones.

As far as Altenstedt goes, where the three featured turbines are being dismantled, the NDR reports: “No more wind turbines may be built in Altenstedt, there are no more planning permits. The energy transition is now history here.

The remaining infrastructure: transmission lines, access roads, transformers etc. are available and are now no longer being used. In Altenstedt they will probably become the first relics of a past idea that went sour.

Germany’s Windexit…Old Wind Turbines Dismantled Without Replacement…Looming “Massive Power Outage”?

notrickszone.com

what's funny is these birds that fly over solar farms get cooked in mid flight. LOL

No, they don't. No one has built a solar concentrator in several years now. The cost of photovoltaics has come down so much that they produce electricity more cheaply than coal. And no dead birds from them. Millions and millions of dead birds from the oil industry, but I suspect you don't give two shits about them, do you.

You don’t know much.

This Solar Plant Accidentally Incinerates Up to 6,000 Birds a Year

A rare and unusual type of solar power plant that concentrates sunlight in California is accidentally killing up to 6,000 birds every year, with staff reporting that the birds keep flying into its concentrated beams of sunlight, and spontaneously bursting...

www.sciencealert.com

Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds

But they aren't the deadliest energy source for our feathered friends

www.popsci.com

Scores of Birds Killed During Test of Solar Project in Nevada

A test of a solar power tower project in Nevada resulted in injuries to more than a hundred birds.

www.kcet.org

Solar farm sets 130 birds on FIRE

Around 130 birds have been injured while entering an area of concentrated solar energy created by the 110-megawatt Crescent Dunes Solar Energy Project near Tonopah, Nevada.

www.dailymail.co.uk

From Weatherman2020's links: "A RARE AND UNUSUAL type of solar power plant that concentrates sunlight..."

AND

this "Bird Deaths by Source"

 

[Weatherman2020]

Everything the Left does ends up hurting people.


The German government loves to talk about the importance of green energies, but when it comes to their expansion, it is in fact doing the opposite: Old wind turbines are being removed without being replaced by new generation turbines.

Perhaps it’s beginning dawn on the German government that especially wind and solar energy just aren’t working out, and so they have massively scaled back subsidies with the aim of scaling them back. […]

The NDR [German public television] reports that in the coming years, 16 GW of wind power will be removed from the subsidy system. Almost two-thirds of this may not be replaced by new, more powerful ones.

As far as Altenstedt goes, where the three featured turbines are being dismantled, the NDR reports: “No more wind turbines may be built in Altenstedt, there are no more planning permits. The energy transition is now history here.

The remaining infrastructure: transmission lines, access roads, transformers etc. are available and are now no longer being used. In Altenstedt they will probably become the first relics of a past idea that went sour.

Germany’s Windexit…Old Wind Turbines Dismantled Without Replacement…Looming “Massive Power Outage”?

notrickszone.com

what's funny is these birds that fly over solar farms get cooked in mid flight. LOL

No, they don't. No one has built a solar concentrator in several years now. The cost of photovoltaics has come down so much that they produce electricity more cheaply than coal. And no dead birds from them. Millions and millions of dead birds from the oil industry, but I suspect you don't give two shits about them, do you.

You don’t know much.

This Solar Plant Accidentally Incinerates Up to 6,000 Birds a Year

A rare and unusual type of solar power plant that concentrates sunlight in California is accidentally killing up to 6,000 birds every year, with staff reporting that the birds keep flying into its concentrated beams of sunlight, and spontaneously bursting...

www.sciencealert.com

Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds

But they aren't the deadliest energy source for our feathered friends

www.popsci.com

Scores of Birds Killed During Test of Solar Project in Nevada

A test of a solar power tower project in Nevada resulted in injuries to more than a hundred birds.

www.kcet.org

Solar farm sets 130 birds on FIRE

Around 130 birds have been injured while entering an area of concentrated solar energy created by the 110-megawatt Crescent Dunes Solar Energy Project near Tonopah, Nevada.

www.dailymail.co.uk

From Weatherman2020's links: "A RARE AND UNUSUAL type of solar power plant that concentrates sunlight..."

AND

this "Bird Deaths by Source"

View attachment 478892

No shock you refuse to link to your fake chart.

Germany Scales Back on Wind Energy Because Its Not Working

Everything the Left does ends up hurting people. The German government loves to talk about the importance of green energies, but when it comes to their expansion, it is in fact doing the opposite: Old wind turbines are being removed without being replaced by new generation turbines. Perhaps...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[Flash]

I have a friend that is an executive with Duke Energy.

Duke has been building all kinds of "clean" energy facilities.

I asked him why would they do something that stupid.

He said it is because of financing. They get a lot of their Capital and Operating credit from European banks. The Environmental Wacko on the bank's Bord of Directors require clean energy projects or no money.

He says that because the stupid Feds subsidies the stupid projects then it is worthwhile to build them in order to kiss the ass of the Eurotrash banks. The Engineers know it is a waste and will never amount to any serious power generation.

 

[zaangalewa]

Very short to the wrongly quoted nonsense here: A problem in context "lower expansion speed of wind power facilities in Germany" is the very limited space in Germany. As an illustration: If the USA had the same population density as it is in Germany then 8 billlion people would live in the USA now.

Air traffic control systems for example prevent windcraft facilities - because it needs a distance of 10 miles between radar control systems, radio beacons and windcraft facilities. A problem in this context is for example the USA. No one needs radio beacons any longer, if someone is using GPS. But GPS is not a reliable system, because the USA is not a reliable nation. And the European alternative system "Galileo" is under pressure - because of mysteries - since a very long time now. By the way: Do you have a mystery creating secret service full of liars in the USA?

"No one needs radio beacons any longer, if someone is using GPS. But GPS is not a reliable system..."

You just explained why radio beacons are necessary.

If they would not be necessary (emergency case, if the USA is switching off GPS) we could build about 1,100 windcraft facilities.

Air traffic control systems don't prevent windpower facilities from being built near airports -- air traffic safety exclusion zones do that. You go and build tall shit around an airport, and people are going to get killed.

Who gets killed from what in your mindmanipulated - or mindmanipulating - brain? I compared last week electric cars wth others - and I was not able to see any advantage in cases of CO2 emissions, if anyone in Germany drives an electric car. (Not so in Norway, by the way, because they use hydroelectric power plants). One reason for this problem within Germany is the strange production of rechargeable batterîes in Asia - guess it is the same in the USA - what means: worldwide electric cars have under best conditions in the moment not zero emissions of CO2 but "only" 50% of the CO2 emissions of normal cars with combusion engines, because they need twice CO2 for the production of batteries. And the other 50% are the CO2 emissions of the power plants here in Germany.

By the way. You GPS system gives everyone correct data because Europe makes the Galileo system. And why "the USA" thinks a redundance in global positioning systems is bad for the USA is a mystery to me. Your mistrust and hate on your allies from the western world must be really "¿great again?".

 

[zaangalewa]

Climate Insanity: German Greens, Conservatives Push For 100s Of Wind Turbines In Black Forest! (notrickszone.com)

Commies never were important there. In Baden Würtemberg exists currently an alliance in the government between the Green party and the Christian democratic union. The CDU is a conservative party.

And it nervs that nearly always everything is wrong what US-Americans say about Germany.

Anyway we must chop the forest down to save the planet

I guess this is what you call humor and others call senseless aggressions. Alcohol? Drugs?

 

[Manonthestreet]

Climate Insanity: German Greens, Conservatives Push For 100s Of Wind Turbines In Black Forest! (notrickszone.com)

Commies never were important there. In Baden Würtemberg exists currently an alliance in the government between the Green party and the Christian democratic union. The CDU is a conservative party.

And it nervs that nearly always everything is wrong what US-Americans say about Germany.

Anyway we must chop the forest down to save the planet

I guess this is what you call humor and others call aggressions.

I call it typical lib lies, double talk hypocrisy and flat out in your face mayhem and destruction.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Everything the Left does ends up hurting people.


The German government loves to talk about the importance of green energies, but when it comes to their expansion, it is in fact doing the opposite: Old wind turbines are being removed without being replaced by new generation turbines.

Perhaps it’s beginning dawn on the German government that especially wind and solar energy just aren’t working out, and so they have massively scaled back subsidies with the aim of scaling them back. […]

The NDR [German public television] reports that in the coming years, 16 GW of wind power will be removed from the subsidy system. Almost two-thirds of this may not be replaced by new, more powerful ones.

As far as Altenstedt goes, where the three featured turbines are being dismantled, the NDR reports: “No more wind turbines may be built in Altenstedt, there are no more planning permits. The energy transition is now history here.

The remaining infrastructure: transmission lines, access roads, transformers etc. are available and are now no longer being used. In Altenstedt they will probably become the first relics of a past idea that went sour.

Germany’s Windexit…Old Wind Turbines Dismantled Without Replacement…Looming “Massive Power Outage”?

notrickszone.com

what's funny is these birds that fly over solar farms get cooked in mid flight. LOL

No, they don't. No one has built a solar concentrator in several years now. The cost of photovoltaics has come down so much that they produce electricity more cheaply than coal. And no dead birds from them. Millions and millions of dead birds from the oil industry, but I suspect you don't give two shits about them, do you.

You don’t know much.

This Solar Plant Accidentally Incinerates Up to 6,000 Birds a Year

A rare and unusual type of solar power plant that concentrates sunlight in California is accidentally killing up to 6,000 birds every year, with staff reporting that the birds keep flying into its concentrated beams of sunlight, and spontaneously bursting...

www.sciencealert.com

Solar Power Towers Are 'Vaporizing' Birds

But they aren't the deadliest energy source for our feathered friends

www.popsci.com

Scores of Birds Killed During Test of Solar Project in Nevada

A test of a solar power tower project in Nevada resulted in injuries to more than a hundred birds.

www.kcet.org

Solar farm sets 130 birds on FIRE

Around 130 birds have been injured while entering an area of concentrated solar energy created by the 110-megawatt Crescent Dunes Solar Energy Project near Tonopah, Nevada.

www.dailymail.co.uk

From Weatherman2020's links: "A RARE AND UNUSUAL type of solar power plant that concentrates sunlight..."

AND

this "Bird Deaths by Source"

View attachment 478892

Another no link chart, you do this a lot.

Maybe I start calling you Nocricklink

 

[zaangalewa]

Climate Insanity: German Greens, Conservatives Push For 100s Of Wind Turbines In Black Forest! (notrickszone.com)

Commies never were important there. In Baden Würtemberg exists currently an alliance in the government between the Green party and the Christian democratic union. The CDU is a conservative party.

And it nervs that nearly always everything is wrong what US-Americans say about Germany.

Anyway we must chop the forest down to save the planet

I guess this is what you call humor and others call aggressions.

I call it typical lib lies, double talk hypocrisy and flat out in your face mayhem and destruction.

Ich nenne es tyische ¿"lib"? Lügen. Doppelzüngige Scheinheiligkeit und ... hmmm .. is the rest here a threat of violence? Which reaction do you expect now? What would your neighbor do, if you would say so to him?`