Georgia Goes To Biden, Election Called Biden Defeats Trump 306-232, Becomes 46th President

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Georgia needs to do a ballot audit and check signatures and addresses as well as open up their machines for inspection.....
Georgia had 2.2 million mail in ballots. Before the state finished validating all of those signature and addresses the Electoral College will have elected Biden president. Even if you found thousands of those addresses or signatures invalid, there would be no way to determine whether they voted for Trump or Biden since the signature is separated from the ballot once it has been verified in order to have a secret ballot as the law requires.
There are thousands of ballots in Georgia without envelopes or signatures with only one selection voted....Biden....no down ballot votes at all and now their envelopes are tossed so they can't be verified...they higher courts will toss those ballots out and require a recount.....its the only way Georgia can possibly certify giving that fact.....
 

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Getting back to politicians acting like politicians and a normal news cycle will do to begin with. I don't know what reality you live in but Biden is a career politician and a centrist. He's also a dealmaker. I have a feeling things will not play out as you think they will. But I'm glad you're entering the "acceptance" phase of grief. Not healthy to dwell on a loss.
Dealmaker? Biden ??

Yeah, he's a dealmaker alright....

He made a deal that gave Iran nukes that they point directly at YOU

And he delivered tons of American business interest and trade secrets directly to China. they LOVE him.

C'mon man! Are you really this stupid ??? (Or just another Chinese troll pretending to be an American)
Iran has been a non-nuclear weapon state party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) since 1970. At the time Trump cancelled the nuclear agreement, Iran had no nuclear weapons and was producing nuclear fuel for nuclear reactors at rate proscribed by treaty. Today there is no treaty with US. Being free of that treaty allows them to produce nuclear fuel as they please and pursue development of nuclear weapons and the Trump administration has not been able to come to any agreement with Iran.
If they develope or attempt to develope weapons grade plutonium or create nuclear weapons outside of any treaty or laws granting them such a thing (which would never happen), Iran knows full well that it would be signing it's very own death warrant. We don't need a treaty with Iran to stop them from creating weapons of mass destruction, because they know better than to attempt it and us find out about it (and we have many ways of finding out about it), so the bullcrap of we need to have a treaty with Iran in order to detour them is bullcrap, but of course the left needs some kind of win in foriegn affairs, so try and create one is their thinking.
If US attacked Iran without a treaty violation, it would be another Bush WMD fiasco.
Walking out on the treaty has gained us nothing. It just made it easier for Iran to violate the terms of the treaty which other signers are still apart. Bush said he was going to negotiate a new and better treaty which never happen. Biden said he will attempt to rejoin the treaty.
Whoa up there....why are you acting like Iran hasn't always violated the terms of the TREATIES---

Iran has never behaved as well as they have under Trump who they fear will thump them.
Trump's reason for walking out on the agreement had nothing to do with agreement violations. Iran was meeting requirements and it was being verified by inspectors. Trump backed out of the agreement because of terrorist activities in Iraq, development of short ranged missiles and attacks directed at Israel. Nothing was accomplished by Trump backing out on the agreement except driving the US and Iran closer to military action. I suppose that must have been Trump's intention.

Biden says he'll reentry the agreement with Iran. I doubt that will happen. Iran has made it clear they will not sign any executive agreements with a US president. In fact, Biden and future presidents are going to have problems making any executive agreements because Trump has made it clear that the US does not honor those agreements. In short, why waste the effort on an agreement with an American president when the next president is most likely going cancel it. This is just more damage Trump has done to country, damage that is not going to be easy to repair.
Jusus lib! RU really that non compos mentis? Friking bloody unreal. Only a weak kneed liberal POS like obama would have even considered such a treaty. Plus u and those like u appear to be just as bad. U.S. DISTRICT COURT RULES IRAN BEHIND 9/11 ATTACKS – Iran 911 Case.
Whether Iran was party to the 911 attack 19 years ago is totally irrelevant to the cancellation of the agreement. There is no evidence that cancelling the agreement has improved Iranian behavior.

The fact is Donald Trump has cancelled a number executive agreements with many countries, simply because he doesn't like the agreement or they were by Obama. He promised to make new bilateral agreements but with the exception of Japan he has failed to do so. On of the major reasons is that other nations do not trust the US to live up to their agreements, in no small part do to Trump. I expect it will take Biden at least a year to undue the damage Trump has done. If the only thing he is able to do is to restore trust in US and reassert American leadership in the world, he will have done a good job.
 

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Georgia needs to do a ballot audit and check signatures and addresses as well as open up their machines for inspection.....
Georgia had 2.2 million mail in ballots. Before the state finished validating all of those signature and addresses the Electoral College will have elected Biden president. Even if you found thousands of those addresses or signatures invalid, there would be no way to determine whether they voted for Trump or Biden since the signature is separated from the ballot once it has been verified in order to have a secret ballot as the law requires.
There are thousands of ballots in Georgia without envelopes or signatures with only one selection voted....Biden....no down ballot votes at all and now their envelopes are tossed so they can't be verified...they higher courts will toss those ballots out and require a recount.....its the only way Georgia can possibly certify giving that fact.....
And you know this how? Once the signature is validated, the ballot is separated from the envelope and the signature. Then the ballot is tabulated with no voter identification. Thus there is no way to determine how a voter voted. This is true for both mail-in ballots or ballots coming from the polls.

The only way to have an audit trail form the voters to election results is to abolish the secret ballot, which is not going to happen.

In case you're interested here is how mail-in voting is processed in states that do all mail-in voting and most states that do both poll and mail-in voting.
1. The back of the mailing envelope has the name and address of the voter along with a line for signature. Inside the mailing envelope is a security envelope that contains the ballot.
2. The voter completes his ballot, placing the ballot in a security envelope and the security envelope in the mailing envelope which he or she signs. The voter then drops it off in a ballot box or a mail box.
4. At the election office, the signature on the mailing envelope is validated against the signatures on the voter's registration and the signature used the last time the voter voted. Unmatched and blank signatures envelopes are pulled for investigation as are invalid addresses, tampered envelopes. or those that the computer has flagged for investigation.
5. The mailing envelope and thus the signature is removed leaving only the privacy envelope containing the ballot. The ballot in the privacy envelope is fed into a machine that strips off the privacy envelope leaving the ballot with no identification of the voter. These ballots are machine tabulated along with ballots from the polling places. Neither polling place ballots or mail-in ballots being tabulated have any voter id attached.

This process protects the secrecy of the ballot whether mailed in or created at a polling place but also makes it impossible to determine how an illegal voter voted. So even if election people determine a person voted illegally, there is no way to correct the vote.
 
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Georgia needs to do a ballot audit and check signatures and addresses as well as open up their machines for inspection.....
Georgia had 2.2 million mail in ballots. Before the state finished validating all of those signature and addresses the Electoral College will have elected Biden president. Even if you found thousands of those addresses or signatures invalid, there would be no way to determine whether they voted for Trump or Biden since the signature is separated from the ballot once it has been verified in order to have a secret ballot as the law requires.
There are thousands of ballots in Georgia without envelopes or signatures with only one selection voted....Biden....no down ballot votes at all and now their envelopes are tossed so they can't be verified...they higher courts will toss those ballots out and require a recount.....its the only way Georgia can possibly certify giving that fact.....
And you know this how? Once the signature is validated, the ballot is separated from the envelope and the signature then it's processed with no voter identification. Thus there is no way to determine how a voter voted. The only way to have an audit trail form the voters to election results is to abolish the secret ballot, which is not going to happen.
These ballots were kept away from the GOP poll watchers...that is against the rules in Georgia...so if rules are broken they legally can't certify...at least not without a legal fight....which began today....
 

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Georgia needs to do a ballot audit and check signatures and addresses as well as open up their machines for inspection.....
Georgia had 2.2 million mail in ballots. Before the state finished validating all of those signature and addresses the Electoral College will have elected Biden president. Even if you found thousands of those addresses or signatures invalid, there would be no way to determine whether they voted for Trump or Biden since the signature is separated from the ballot once it has been verified in order to have a secret ballot as the law requires.
There are thousands of ballots in Georgia without envelopes or signatures with only one selection voted....Biden....no down ballot votes at all and now their envelopes are tossed so they can't be verified...they higher courts will toss those ballots out and require a recount.....its the only way Georgia can possibly certify giving that fact.....
And you know this how? Once the signature is validated, the ballot is separated from the envelope and the signature then it's processed with no voter identification. Thus there is no way to determine how a voter voted. The only way to have an audit trail form the voters to election results is to abolish the secret ballot, which is not going to happen.
These ballots were kept away from the GOP poll watchers...that is against the rules in Georgia...so if rules are broken they legally can't certify...at least not without a legal fight....which began today....
I doubt that there has every been a general federal in a state in which some of the rules are not broken. Legal actions can be taken to punish those that broke the rules but that will not effect the certification of the election. If an election is not certified, millions of voters will have been deprived their right to vote when they have done nothing wrong. That's why failing to certify an legal election is a felony in most states. You simple cannot take away a single person's right to vote if they are legally entitled to vote and you certainly can't take away an entire city or state's right to vote because a poll worker was not allowed to see some ballots.
 
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Trump was bought. When you are a businessman, everything has a price. Even America.
But....the 1.5 billion China gave the Bidens......was proper.

You speak like a well greased assclown.

That's what made Trump unique....he didn't need their money.
If he didn’t need money why did he steer millions of dollars in taxpayer money to his businesses?

If he didn’t need THEIR money why does he maintain a Chinese bank account?

hmmmmmm
Are you talking Trump...

In order to do business in china---------you need a chinese bank account..tired of the lib talking point about this
businessmen steer business to their business-that is the point of being a businessman isn't it
 

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To Repeat. Denying the fact that Lying Lowlife Scum Sucking Impeached 45 LOST his attempt to stay in the White House, does not CHANGE or ALTER that reality. Fuck Stick 45 lost.
Fuck the bible. Fuck god. I gladly shit on religion.

45 lost.
This will be the last time I utter a word to you, so get help because you need it badly. If the American people are watching what the left is all about, then you definitely are the leftist poster child in which they should take great warning about or maybe not sadly enough. If you or the likes of you are what this country wants, then God help us all.
 

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Getting back to politicians acting like politicians and a normal news cycle will do to begin with. I don't know what reality you live in but Biden is a career politician and a centrist. He's also a dealmaker. I have a feeling things will not play out as you think they will. But I'm glad you're entering the "acceptance" phase of grief. Not healthy to dwell on a loss.
Dealmaker? Biden ??

Yeah, he's a dealmaker alright....

He made a deal that gave Iran nukes that they point directly at YOU

And he delivered tons of American business interest and trade secrets directly to China. they LOVE him.

C'mon man! Are you really this stupid ??? (Or just another Chinese troll pretending to be an American)
Iran has been a non-nuclear weapon state party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) since 1970. At the time Trump cancelled the nuclear agreement, Iran had no nuclear weapons and was producing nuclear fuel for nuclear reactors at rate proscribed by treaty. Today there is no treaty with US. Being free of that treaty allows them to produce nuclear fuel as they please and pursue development of nuclear weapons and the Trump administration has not been able to come to any agreement with Iran.
If they develope or attempt to develope weapons grade plutonium or create nuclear weapons outside of any treaty or laws granting them such a thing (which would never happen), Iran knows full well that it would be signing it's very own death warrant. We don't need a treaty with Iran to stop them from creating weapons of mass destruction, because they know better than to attempt it and us find out about it (and we have many ways of finding out about it), so the bullcrap of we need to have a treaty with Iran in order to detour them is bullcrap, but of course the left needs some kind of win in foriegn affairs, so try and create one is their thinking.
If US attacked Iran without a treaty violation, it would be another Bush WMD fiasco.
Walking out on the treaty has gained us nothing. It just made it easier for Iran to violate the terms of the treaty which other signers are still apart. Bush said he was going to negotiate a new and better treaty which never happen. Biden said he will attempt to rejoin the treaty.
Whoa up there....why are you acting like Iran hasn't always violated the terms of the TREATIES---

Iran has never behaved as well as they have under Trump who they fear will thump them.
Trump's reason for walking out on the agreement had nothing to do with agreement violations. Iran was meeting requirements and it was being verified by inspectors. Trump backed out of the agreement because of terrorist activities in Iraq, development of short ranged missiles and attacks directed at Israel. Nothing was accomplished by Trump backing out on the agreement except driving the US and Iran closer to military action. I suppose that must have been Trump's intention.

Biden says he'll reentry the agreement with Iran. I doubt that will happen. Iran has made it clear they will not sign any executive agreements with a US president. In fact, Biden and future presidents are going to have problems making any executive agreements because Trump has made it clear that the US does not honor those agreements. In short, why waste the effort on an agreement with an American president when the next president is most likely going cancel it. This is just more damage Trump has done to country, damage that is not going to be easy to repair.
Jusus lib! RU really that non compos mentis? Friking bloody unreal. Only a weak kneed liberal POS like obama would have even considered such a treaty. Plus u and those like u appear to be just as bad. U.S. DISTRICT COURT RULES IRAN BEHIND 9/11 ATTACKS – Iran 911 Case.
Whether Iran was party to the 911 attack 19 years ago is totally irrelevant to the cancellation of the agreement. There is no evidence that cancelling the agreement has improved Iranian behavior.

The fact is Donald Trump has cancelled a number executive agreements with many countries, simply because he doesn't like the agreement or they were by Obama. He promised to make new bilateral agreements but with the exception of Japan he has failed to do so. On of the major reasons is that other nations do not trust the US to live up to their agreements, in no small part do to Trump. I expect it will take Biden at least a year to undue the damage Trump has done. If the only thing he is able to do is to restore trust in US and reassert American leadership in the world, he will have done a good job.
Since all agreements by Obama sucked ,it was wise to get out of 'em. Obama is a traitor.
 

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Trump was bought. When you are a businessman, everything has a price. Even America.
But....the 1.5 billion China gave the Bidens......was proper.

You speak like a well greased assclown.

That's what made Trump unique....he didn't need their money.
If he didn’t need money why did he steer millions of dollars in taxpayer money to his businesses?

If he didn’t need THEIR money why does he maintain a Chinese bank account?

hmmmmmm
Are you talking Trump...

In order to do business in china---------you need a chinese bank account..tired of the lib talking point about this
businessmen steer business to their business-that is the point of being a businessman isn't it
The Left thinks they've got another massive collusion revelation.

They mention this non factor all the time.
 

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United States on Nov. 7. Mr. Biden defeated President Trump after winning Pennsylvania, which put his total of Electoral College votes above the 270 he needed to clinch the presidency.
306
Biden
Winner
232
Trump
270TO WIN

Nope, we have started over with a list of illegitimate Presidents starting with #1 Trump and now #2 Biden
You for got .5, Georgie W Bush.
 

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Trump was bought. When you are a businessman, everything has a price. Even America.
But....the 1.5 billion China gave the Bidens......was proper.

You speak like a well greased assclown.

That's what made Trump unique....he didn't need their money.
If he didn’t need money why did he steer millions of dollars in taxpayer money to his businesses?

If he didn’t need THEIR money why does he maintain a Chinese bank account?

hmmmmmm
Are you talking Trump...

In order to do business in china---------you need a chinese bank account..tired of the lib talking point about this
businessmen steer business to their business-that is the point of being a businessman isn't it
The Left thinks they've got another massive collusion revelation.

They mention this non factor all the time.
The only Collusion was the MEDIA helping filthy Democrats.
 

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Getting back to politicians acting like politicians and a normal news cycle will do to begin with. I don't know what reality you live in but Biden is a career politician and a centrist. He's also a dealmaker. I have a feeling things will not play out as you think they will. But I'm glad you're entering the "acceptance" phase of grief. Not healthy to dwell on a loss.
Dealmaker? Biden ??

Yeah, he's a dealmaker alright....

He made a deal that gave Iran nukes that they point directly at YOU

And he delivered tons of American business interest and trade secrets directly to China. they LOVE him.

C'mon man! Are you really this stupid ??? (Or just another Chinese troll pretending to be an American)
Iran has been a non-nuclear weapon state party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) since 1970. At the time Trump cancelled the nuclear agreement, Iran had no nuclear weapons and was producing nuclear fuel for nuclear reactors at rate proscribed by treaty. Today there is no treaty with US. Being free of that treaty allows them to produce nuclear fuel as they please and pursue development of nuclear weapons and the Trump administration has not been able to come to any agreement with Iran.
If they develope or attempt to develope weapons grade plutonium or create nuclear weapons outside of any treaty or laws granting them such a thing (which would never happen), Iran knows full well that it would be signing it's very own death warrant. We don't need a treaty with Iran to stop them from creating weapons of mass destruction, because they know better than to attempt it and us find out about it (and we have many ways of finding out about it), so the bullcrap of we need to have a treaty with Iran in order to detour them is bullcrap, but of course the left needs some kind of win in foriegn affairs, so try and create one is their thinking.
If US attacked Iran without a treaty violation, it would be another Bush WMD fiasco.
Walking out on the treaty has gained us nothing. It just made it easier for Iran to violate the terms of the treaty which other signers are still apart. Bush said he was going to negotiate a new and better treaty which never happen. Biden said he will attempt to rejoin the treaty.
Whoa up there....why are you acting like Iran hasn't always violated the terms of the TREATIES---

Iran has never behaved as well as they have under Trump who they fear will thump them.
Trump's reason for walking out on the agreement had nothing to do with agreement violations. Iran was meeting requirements and it was being verified by inspectors. Trump backed out of the agreement because of terrorist activities in Iraq, development of short ranged missiles and attacks directed at Israel. Nothing was accomplished by Trump backing out on the agreement except driving the US and Iran closer to military action. I suppose that must have been Trump's intention.

Biden says he'll reentry the agreement with Iran. I doubt that will happen. Iran has made it clear they will not sign any executive agreements with a US president. In fact, Biden and future presidents are going to have problems making any executive agreements because Trump has made it clear that the US does not honor those agreements. In short, why waste the effort on an agreement with an American president when the next president is most likely going cancel it. This is just more damage Trump has done to country, damage that is not going to be easy to repair.
Jusus lib! RU really that non compos mentis? Friking bloody unreal. Only a weak kneed liberal POS like obama would have even considered such a treaty. Plus u and those like u appear to be just as bad. U.S. DISTRICT COURT RULES IRAN BEHIND 9/11 ATTACKS – Iran 911 Case.
Whether Iran was party to the 911 attack 19 years ago is totally irrelevant to the cancellation of the agreement. There is no evidence that cancelling the agreement has improved Iranian behavior.

The fact is Donald Trump has cancelled a number executive agreements with many countries, simply because he doesn't like the agreement or they were by Obama. He promised to make new bilateral agreements but with the exception of Japan he has failed to do so. On of the major reasons is that other nations do not trust the US to live up to their agreements, in no small part do to Trump. I expect it will take Biden at least a year to undue the damage Trump has done. If the only thing he is able to do is to restore trust in US and reassert American leadership in the world, he will have done a good job.
Since all agreements by Obama sucked ,it was wise to get out of 'em. Obama is a traitor.
Identity politic's was, and unfortunately still is the undoing of this nation. Moving from a merit based society was the worst thing this nation has ever embarked on. We have got to be the laughing stock of the world. If not, then we are the fool's following after the world. Like I said before, the leftist are pure evil, and to allow them to take over this nation after all that the nation knows, is flat outright amazing. This idea that we have to abide by rules in order to make this thing work out every 4 years, when we have a large part of this nation gone rogue, uhh basically null and voids those rules. How does one idiotically play by the rules, otherwise if the rules are being broken by the other players who have their double crossing fingers crossed behind their backs now ???? Unbelievable situation.
 
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Getting back to politicians acting like politicians and a normal news cycle will do to begin with. I don't know what reality you live in but Biden is a career politician and a centrist. He's also a dealmaker. I have a feeling things will not play out as you think they will. But I'm glad you're entering the "acceptance" phase of grief. Not healthy to dwell on a loss.
Dealmaker? Biden ??

Yeah, he's a dealmaker alright....

He made a deal that gave Iran nukes that they point directly at YOU

And he delivered tons of American business interest and trade secrets directly to China. they LOVE him.

C'mon man! Are you really this stupid ??? (Or just another Chinese troll pretending to be an American)
Iran has been a non-nuclear weapon state party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) since 1970. At the time Trump cancelled the nuclear agreement, Iran had no nuclear weapons and was producing nuclear fuel for nuclear reactors at rate proscribed by treaty. Today there is no treaty with US. Being free of that treaty allows them to produce nuclear fuel as they please and pursue development of nuclear weapons and the Trump administration has not been able to come to any agreement with Iran.
If they develope or attempt to develope weapons grade plutonium or create nuclear weapons outside of any treaty or laws granting them such a thing (which would never happen), Iran knows full well that it would be signing it's very own death warrant. We don't need a treaty with Iran to stop them from creating weapons of mass destruction, because they know better than to attempt it and us find out about it (and we have many ways of finding out about it), so the bullcrap of we need to have a treaty with Iran in order to detour them is bullcrap, but of course the left needs some kind of win in foriegn affairs, so try and create one is their thinking.
If US attacked Iran without a treaty violation, it would be another Bush WMD fiasco.
Walking out on the treaty has gained us nothing. It just made it easier for Iran to violate the terms of the treaty which other signers are still apart. Bush said he was going to negotiate a new and better treaty which never happen. Biden said he will attempt to rejoin the treaty.
Whoa up there....why are you acting like Iran hasn't always violated the terms of the TREATIES---

Iran has never behaved as well as they have under Trump who they fear will thump them.
Trump's reason for walking out on the agreement had nothing to do with agreement violations. Iran was meeting requirements and it was being verified by inspectors. Trump backed out of the agreement because of terrorist activities in Iraq, development of short ranged missiles and attacks directed at Israel. Nothing was accomplished by Trump backing out on the agreement except driving the US and Iran closer to military action. I suppose that must have been Trump's intention.

Biden says he'll reentry the agreement with Iran. I doubt that will happen. Iran has made it clear they will not sign any executive agreements with a US president. In fact, Biden and future presidents are going to have problems making any executive agreements because Trump has made it clear that the US does not honor those agreements. In short, why waste the effort on an agreement with an American president when the next president is most likely going cancel it. This is just more damage Trump has done to country, damage that is not going to be easy to repair.
Jusus lib! RU really that non compos mentis? Friking bloody unreal. Only a weak kneed liberal POS like obama would have even considered such a treaty. Plus u and those like u appear to be just as bad. U.S. DISTRICT COURT RULES IRAN BEHIND 9/11 ATTACKS – Iran 911 Case.
Whether Iran was party to the 911 attack 19 years ago is totally irrelevant to the cancellation of the agreement. There is no evidence that cancelling the agreement has improved Iranian behavior.

The fact is Donald Trump has cancelled a number executive agreements with many countries, simply because he doesn't like the agreement or they were by Obama. He promised to make new bilateral agreements but with the exception of Japan he has failed to do so. On of the major reasons is that other nations do not trust the US to live up to their agreements, in no small part do to Trump. I expect it will take Biden at least a year to undue the damage Trump has done. If the only thing he is able to do is to restore trust in US and reassert American leadership in the world, he will have done a good job.
Since all agreements by Obama sucked ,it was wise to get out of 'em. Obama is a traitor.
Identity politic's was, and unfortunately still is the undoing of this nation. Moving from a merit based society was the worst thing this nation has ever embarked on. We have got to be the laughing stock of the world. If not, then we are the fool's following after the world. Like I said before, the leftist are pure evil, and to allow them to take over this nation after all that the nation knows, is flat outright amazing. This idea that we have to abide by rules in order to make this thing work out every 4 years, when we have a large part of this nation gone rogue, uhh basically null and void those rules. How does one idiotically play by the rules, otherwise if the rules are being broken by the other players who have their double crossing fingers crossed behind their backs now ???? Unbelievable situation.
I believe the REAL rulers (Bezos ,Soros ,Dorsey ,and Zuckerberg) would like a North American Union. With the USA equal to such shitholes as El Salvador and Cuba. In the model of the Europian Union.
 

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Getting back to politicians acting like politicians and a normal news cycle will do to begin with. I don't know what reality you live in but Biden is a career politician and a centrist. He's also a dealmaker. I have a feeling things will not play out as you think they will. But I'm glad you're entering the "acceptance" phase of grief. Not healthy to dwell on a loss.
Dealmaker? Biden ??

Yeah, he's a dealmaker alright....

He made a deal that gave Iran nukes that they point directly at YOU

And he delivered tons of American business interest and trade secrets directly to China. they LOVE him.

C'mon man! Are you really this stupid ??? (Or just another Chinese troll pretending to be an American)
Iran has been a non-nuclear weapon state party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) since 1970. At the time Trump cancelled the nuclear agreement, Iran had no nuclear weapons and was producing nuclear fuel for nuclear reactors at rate proscribed by treaty. Today there is no treaty with US. Being free of that treaty allows them to produce nuclear fuel as they please and pursue development of nuclear weapons and the Trump administration has not been able to come to any agreement with Iran.
If they develope or attempt to develope weapons grade plutonium or create nuclear weapons outside of any treaty or laws granting them such a thing (which would never happen), Iran knows full well that it would be signing it's very own death warrant. We don't need a treaty with Iran to stop them from creating weapons of mass destruction, because they know better than to attempt it and us find out about it (and we have many ways of finding out about it), so the bullcrap of we need to have a treaty with Iran in order to detour them is bullcrap, but of course the left needs some kind of win in foriegn affairs, so try and create one is their thinking.
If US attacked Iran without a treaty violation, it would be another Bush WMD fiasco.
Walking out on the treaty has gained us nothing. It just made it easier for Iran to violate the terms of the treaty which other signers are still apart. Bush said he was going to negotiate a new and better treaty which never happen. Biden said he will attempt to rejoin the treaty.
Whoa up there....why are you acting like Iran hasn't always violated the terms of the TREATIES---

Iran has never behaved as well as they have under Trump who they fear will thump them.
Trump's reason for walking out on the agreement had nothing to do with agreement violations. Iran was meeting requirements and it was being verified by inspectors. Trump backed out of the agreement because of terrorist activities in Iraq, development of short ranged missiles and attacks directed at Israel. Nothing was accomplished by Trump backing out on the agreement except driving the US and Iran closer to military action. I suppose that must have been Trump's intention.

Biden says he'll reentry the agreement with Iran. I doubt that will happen. Iran has made it clear they will not sign any executive agreements with a US president. In fact, Biden and future presidents are going to have problems making any executive agreements because Trump has made it clear that the US does not honor those agreements. In short, why waste the effort on an agreement with an American president when the next president is most likely going cancel it. This is just more damage Trump has done to country, damage that is not going to be easy to repair.
Jusus lib! RU really that non compos mentis? Friking bloody unreal. Only a weak kneed liberal POS like obama would have even considered such a treaty. Plus u and those like u appear to be just as bad. U.S. DISTRICT COURT RULES IRAN BEHIND 9/11 ATTACKS – Iran 911 Case.
Whether Iran was party to the 911 attack 19 years ago is totally irrelevant to the cancellation of the agreement. There is no evidence that cancelling the agreement has improved Iranian behavior.

The fact is Donald Trump has cancelled a number executive agreements with many countries, simply because he doesn't like the agreement or they were by Obama. He promised to make new bilateral agreements but with the exception of Japan he has failed to do so. On of the major reasons is that other nations do not trust the US to live up to their agreements, in no small part do to Trump. I expect it will take Biden at least a year to undue the damage Trump has done. If the only thing he is able to do is to restore trust in US and reassert American leadership in the world, he will have done a good job.
Since all agreements by Obama sucked ,it was wise to get out of 'em. Obama is a traitor.
Identity politic's was, and unfortunately still is the undoing of this nation. Moving from a merit based society was the worst thing this nation has ever embarked on. We have got to be the laughing stock of the world. If not, then we are the fool's following after the world. Like I said before, the leftist are pure evil, and to allow them to take over this nation after all that the nation knows, is flat outright amazing. This idea that we have to abide by rules in order to make this thing work out every 4 years, when we have a large part of this nation gone rogue, uhh basically null and void those rules. How does one idiotically play by the rules, otherwise if the rules are being broken by the other players who have their double crossing fingers crossed behind their backs now ???? Unbelievable situation.
I believe the REAL rulers (Bezos ,Soros ,Dorsey ,and Zuckerberg) would like a North American Union. With the USA equal to such shitholes as El Salvador and Cuba. In the model of the Europian Union.
Wonder why they want such a thing ? Are they stupid and drunken with power ?? To destroy the golden goose is as idiotic as it gets, but to try and enslave the goose is a very dangerous move on their parts. These things lead to the possibility of a civil war within, but maybe that's what they want in order to weaken us for the final nail I'm our coffin.
 

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Trump was bought. When you are a businessman, everything has a price. Even America.
But....the 1.5 billion China gave the Bidens......was proper.

You speak like a well greased assclown.

That's what made Trump unique....he didn't need their money.
If he didn’t need money why did he steer millions of dollars in taxpayer money to his businesses?

If he didn’t need THEIR money why does he maintain a Chinese bank account?

hmmmmmm
Are you talking Trump...

In order to do business in china---------you need a chinese bank account..tired of the lib talking point about this
businessmen steer business to their business-that is the point of being a businessman isn't it
Business in China.
1. ok for Trump

2. not ok for Biden


makes no sense.
 

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Trump was bought. When you are a businessman, everything has a price. Even America.
But....the 1.5 billion China gave the Bidens......was proper.

You speak like a well greased assclown.

That's what made Trump unique....he didn't need their money.
If he didn’t need money why did he steer millions of dollars in taxpayer money to his businesses?

If he didn’t need THEIR money why does he maintain a Chinese bank account?

hmmmmmm
Are you talking Trump...

In order to do business in china---------you need a chinese bank account..tired of the lib talking point about this
businessmen steer business to their business-that is the point of being a businessman isn't it
Business in China.
1. ok for Trump

2. not ok for Biden


makes no sense.

After your mouth is washed with soap and you become honest....you would instead say........

LEGITIMATE business in China
OK for rump

ILLEGITIMATE Bribes received from China by Biden....OK

However, we ask too much. Honesty, that is
 

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Trump was bought. When you are a businessman, everything has a price. Even America.
But....the 1.5 billion China gave the Bidens......was proper.

You speak like a well greased assclown.

That's what made Trump unique....he didn't need their money.
If he didn’t need money why did he steer millions of dollars in taxpayer money to his businesses?

If he didn’t need THEIR money why does he maintain a Chinese bank account?

hmmmmmm
Are you talking Trump...

In order to do business in china---------you need a chinese bank account..tired of the lib talking point about this
businessmen steer business to their business-that is the point of being a businessman isn't it
Business in China.
1. ok for Trump

2. not ok for Biden


makes no sense.

After your mouth is washed with soap and you become honest....you would instead say........

LEGITIMATE business in China
OK for rump

ILLEGITIMATE Bribes received from China by Biden....OK

However, we ask too much. Honesty, that is
Still blowing soap bubbles?

Here's what I heard through the foam.

If it is Trump business, it is legitimate.

If it is Biden business it is not.

That is how it works in Trumplandia (where truth is optional and open to creative interpretation).
 

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Trump was bought. When you are a businessman, everything has a price. Even America.
But....the 1.5 billion China gave the Bidens......was proper.

You speak like a well greased assclown.

That's what made Trump unique....he didn't need their money.
If he didn’t need money why did he steer millions of dollars in taxpayer money to his businesses?

If he didn’t need THEIR money why does he maintain a Chinese bank account?

hmmmmmm
Are you talking Trump...

In order to do business in china---------you need a chinese bank account..tired of the lib talking point about this
businessmen steer business to their business-that is the point of being a businessman isn't it
Business in China.
1. ok for Trump

2. not ok for Biden


makes no sense.

After your mouth is washed with soap and you become honest....you would instead say........

LEGITIMATE business in China
OK for rump

ILLEGITIMATE Bribes received from China by Biden....OK

However, we ask too much. Honesty, that is
Still blowing soap bubbles?

Here's what I heard through the foam.

If it is Trump business, it is legitimate.

If it is Biden business it is not.

That is how it works in Trumplandia (where truth is optional and open to creative interpretation).
If only you could prove any of that blather.

But, ya can't

 

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