General Kelly was witness to the condolence call. And others in the room.

[bripat9643]

So do we believe a whack job left wing Congress critter. Or the President and his staff? As far as the mother goes NOW she's claiming Trump not only insulted her son, his widow BUT now the soldier's father was insulted as well. That's just plain crazy.

"She said the president was 'respectful' during the condolence call, then went after Wilson and added: 'To try to create something from that, that the congresswoman is doing, is frankly appalling and disgusting.'

Kelly's name had already surfaced in the flap over Trump's statements about the ambush in Niger that killed four servicemen Oct. 4 – after he said President Obama 'didn't make calls' and encouraged people to ask Kelly if Obama called him.

Sanders indicated that Kelly would vouch for Trump, after Wilson said several people were also monitoring the president's call, which was put on speakerphone in a limo as Johnson's widow, Myeshia, rode to receive his remains."


Read more: White House says there are NO tapes of condolence call | Daily Mail Online
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This matter of the condolence call is one Trump should never have used as a vehicle for figuratively throwing his predecessor under the bus. Let's be clear here. Trump introduced the matter into the public discursive area. His having broached the tu quoque line of BS he did is yet another manifestation of the fact that, for Trump and in his mind, everything about him and what he does or doesn't do is seen only through the lens of comparison with/to what others do or did.

Time and time again, we hear Trump talking about something he did and how it compares to something someone else did. The man apparently cannot simply state/"own" what he does and let it stand or fall on its own merits or lack thereof.

Read more: White House says there are NO tapes of condolence call | Daily Mail Online

Well, it turns out there is a recording of the call: Soldier’s widow releases recording of family’s call with Trump.

Some of Trump's remarks during the call:

• "Tell them their father was a great hero that I respected.” -- Really? Had Trump ever even met the man?
  
• "He knew what he was getting into." -- Why Trump didn't realize that contextually a military officer (or former one) saying that to another is not the same thing it being said by a civilian who purposefully went out of his way to avoid military service. Context is everything, yet in seventy years, it's something Trump apparently has not learned to suss out. (Nevermind that Trump said those words and later denied having done so.)

One'd think that in seventy years a man would have learned how to offer a sincere and comforting condolence message. Trump clearly has not. And WTH? The man asked his chief of staff what to say to the woman? Do you need to ask people how to express your heartfelt sympathy regarding the passing of another individual? A child might need to, sure; particularly one lacking experience with death. Someone for whom sincere sympathy is an unknown emotion would absolutely need to. Trump's too old be child, and yet emotionally, that's exactly what he is.

No one is buying the bullshit claim that Trump caused the POS pig Wilson to lie.

 

[ChrisL]

So, they actually did try and twist his words to mean something other than the message he was trying to convey, that he appreciated the man's service to his country, considers him a hero, and that he was sorry for the loss.

Throw him in jail. No, burn him instead! Raaaaa!

 

[ChrisL]

At least Trump hasn't gone on an apology tour yet. Where did that get us? Lol! Looking like a bunch of weak doormats is where it got us! Bowing to the Saudi King. Good PR image, America! Gawwwwwwddddddd! It doesn't really matter how you come across, just don't come across as weak. People LOVE to take advantage of weakness!

 

[g5000]

Gen. Kelly has been hacked by the president

Gen. Kelly’s comments in a vacuum were not off target. His frustration regarding the disgusting state of our civil discourse is shared by most Americans — and the rest of the world. Many would also agree that things that used to be sacred no longer are — women, religion, Gold-Star families.

But what was so jaw-dropping about Kelly’s comments was that they were not made in a vacuum. They were made from the press room of a White House whose current occupant was the perpetrator of the vile actions that violently stripped the sacredness out of the very things — and people — Kelly was talking about.

Did Gen. Kelly forget that it was Trump who callously attacked a Gold-Star family — the Khans — during the summer political conventions of 2016? Did he forget that it was Trump who viciously insulted a war hero — Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) — when he said that he likes heroes who weren’t captured?

 

[bripat9643]

Gen. Kelly has been hacked by the president

Gen. Kelly’s comments in a vacuum were not off target. His frustration regarding the disgusting state of our civil discourse is shared by most Americans — and the rest of the world. Many would also agree that things that used to be sacred no longer are — women, religion, Gold-Star families.

But what was so jaw-dropping about Kelly’s comments was that they were not made in a vacuum. They were made from the press room of a White House whose current occupant was the perpetrator of the vile actions that violently stripped the sacredness out of the very things — and people — Kelly was talking about.

Did Gen. Kelly forget that it was Trump who callously attacked a Gold-Star family — the Khans — during the summer political conventions of 2016? Did he forget that it was Trump who viciously insulted a war hero — Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) — when he said that he likes heroes who weren’t captured?

You're just another douche bag who is propagating the smear by the lying POS pig Wilson.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Those, such as the minimal ChrisL, who defend attacks by the orangopiod brigades on crack skulls of the Far Right, are fun to read and laugh at.

Their political brand's shelf life is dwindling.

 

[Geaux4it]

Obama would of called nobody except his 1% buddies for a game of golf

-Geaux

A Terrorist Horror, Then Golf: Incongruity Fuels Obama Critics

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President Obama on Martha’s Vineyard on Wednesday. Republicans and Democrats have said his vacation is ill timed. CreditSteven Senne/Associated Press
WASHINGTON — He had just hung up the telephone with the devastated parents before heading in front of the cameras. Unusually emotional, President Obama declared himself “heartbroken” by the brutal murder of an American journalist, James Foley, and vowed to “be relentless” against Islamic radicals threatening to kill another American.

But as soon as the cameras went off, Mr. Obama headed to his favorite golf course on Martha’s Vineyard, where he is on vacation, seemingly able to put the savagery out of his mind. He spent the rest of the afternoon on the links even as a firestorm of criticism erupted over what many saw as a callous indifference to the slaughter he had just condemned.


A Terrorist Horror, Then Golf: Incongruity Fuels Obama Critics

 

[Snouter]

I would not be surprised if Hussaine called the Mad Hatter to congratulate her for using dead American soldiers to help her campaign and for her grotesque, crackhead, homeless ghetto type fashions.

 

[bripat9643]

I would not be surprised if Hussaine called the Mad Hatter to congratulate her for using dead American soldiers to help her campaign and for her grotesque, crackhead, homeless ghetto type fashions.

"The Mad Hatter?" I like that.

 

[Rambunctious]

What's wrong with Obamacare is what was wrong with it before Obamacare ridiculously high cost. The cost curve is actually bent down despite GOP and crony insurer sabotage

The cost is what it is....we are talking about your health not the cost of a car or a phone...Do you buy the cheapest phone? the cheapest car? No you don't because you realize that you get what you pay for...why do you want your healthcare to equal a cheap used car?
I don't know where you were 6 years ago but health insurance has skyrocketed since Obama care...Obama told us the opposite would happen, but we all know he is a liar.

 

[JakeStarkey]

As always, deflection to Obama is the mark of the weak and the worthless.

 

[Lakhota]

Surely you lying NaziCons are going to let this fake news thread just die, are you? Come on, tell us more...

 

[francoHFW]

What's wrong with Obamacare is what was wrong with it before Obamacare ridiculously high cost. The cost curve is actually bent down despite GOP and crony insurer sabotage

The cost is what it is....we are talking about your health not the cost of a car or a phone...Do you buy the cheapest phone? the cheapest car? No you don't because you realize that you get what you pay for...why do you want your healthcare to equal a cheap used car?
I don't know where you were 6 years ago but health insurance has skyrocketed since Obama care...Obama told us the opposite would happen, but we all know he is a liar.

Obamacare is guaranteed catastrophic care which is the way it was going and the cost is 43% up which is less than it would have been without it. That's right guaranteed. If you lose your job you're still covered. Dupe.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Washington Post editorial board: Kelly owes Dem rep an apology

The Washington Post's editorial board is calling on White House chief of staff John Kelly to apologize to Rep. Frederica Wilson (D-Fla.) after he mischaracterized her remarks from a 2015 event, calling her an "empty barrel" at a press briefing this week.

"White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly owes Rep. Frederica S. Wilson (D-Fla.) an apology. That is the only conclusion that can be drawn after watching a video of the representative’s remarks at the dedication of an FBI building in Miramar, Fla., in 2015," the board wrote on Friday.

"It is unfortunate that the sacrifice of brave people such as these two agents or the four soldiers killed in Niger can get overwhelmed by the petty name-calling of politics. That is a point Mr. Kelly was trying to make Thursday, and that he undercut with his misrepresentation of Ms. Wilson. He needs to set the record straight."

 

[bripat9643]

Washington Post editorial board: Kelly owes Dem rep an apology

The Washington Post's editorial board is calling on White House chief of staff John Kelly to apologize to Rep. Frederica Wilson (D-Fla.) after he mischaracterized her remarks from a 2015 event, calling her an "empty barrel" at a press briefing this week.

"White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly owes Rep. Frederica S. Wilson (D-Fla.) an apology. That is the only conclusion that can be drawn after watching a video of the representative’s remarks at the dedication of an FBI building in Miramar, Fla., in 2015," the board wrote on Friday.

"It is unfortunate that the sacrifice of brave people such as these two agents or the four soldiers killed in Niger can get overwhelmed by the petty name-calling of politics. That is a point Mr. Kelly was trying to make Thursday, and that he undercut with his misrepresentation of Ms. Wilson. He needs to set the record straight."

"The Washington Post's editorial board?" You think that is supposed to be convincing? You're kidding, right?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

"The Washington Post's editorial board?" You think that is supposed to be convincing? You're kidding, right?

I know for you Alex Jones is convincing

Heck no what is convincing is the video of Kelly the Trump Holster lying on the Black Female Congress woman ..that was convincing



‘We can’t function on hypocrisy’: Colonel knocks Trump after CNN unearths claim he built the Vietnam Memorial

 

[litmanen]

 

[litmanen]

 

[Geaux4it]

As always, deflection to Obama is the mark of the weak and the worthless.

But there are so many examples of Obama hosing America. We must so frequently revisit them

-Geaux

 

[JakeStarkey]

Once again, Geaux4it deflects to Obama to avoid the even worse hosing of America by Trump.