General Flynn Wasn’t The Only One

[jc456]

Flynn lied and even admitted his guilt, but in this post-modern world things aren't as they are, they change and mutate and soon wrong doing becomes someone else's fault or another interpretation. Hillary had email, oh the horror, Trump abused women, boys will be boys. Depends on where you are or what you want to believe. Nothing is real. Imagine Truman or Eisenhower or Lincoln or FDR, what would they think of the post modern conservative apologist who changes reality before our eyes. The 'Pied Piper' still roams the world, only now he leads some away from order into the make believe where law is no longer law.

"Evil when we are in its power is not felt as evil, but as necessity." Simone Weil

"Humans universally make Us/Them dichotomies along lines of race, ethnicity, gender, language group, religion, age, socioeconomic status, and so on. And it’s not a pretty picture. We do so with remarkable speed and neurobiological efficiency; have complex taxonomies and classifications of ways in which we denigrate Thems; do so with a versatility that ranges from the minutest of microaggression to bloodbaths of savagery; and regularly decide what is inferior about Them based on pure emotion, followed by primitive rationalizations that we mistake for rationality. Pretty depressing."

Why Your Brain Hates Other People

And how to make it think differently.

nautil.us

'Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst' by Robert M. Sapolsky

-"The trouble with Eichmann was precisely that so many were like him, and that the many were neither perverted nor sadistic, that they were, and still are, terribly and terrifyingly normal. From the viewpoint of our legal institutions and of our moral standards of judgment, this normality was much more terrifying than all the atrocities put together." Hannah Arendt

What did Hannah Arendt really mean by the banality of evil? | Aeon Ideas

Can a person do evil and yet not actually be evil? What Hannah Arendt meant by ‘the banality of evil’ remains a puzzle

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so when someone admits to a crime, they should never be released when it's found they were coerced into a confession? Is that what you're saying? Those five black kids that confessed and then fought that they were coerced and got released, shouldn't have been because they confessed? hmmmmmmmm you be on the wrong side of that jack. I'm laughing at you again.

 

[jc456]

They threatened his son if he didn't cop.

Win at any cost.....the motto of your side.

And since the aim of the Left is to destroy the concept of family, you won't understand Flynn's motivation.

They offered to let Flynn's son off the hook for his son's part in the conspiracy if papa would own up to what he did.

Is this the Right's view of family values?

What law did he break and what statements of his prove that?

You're welcome to Google the details but, as I recall, he met with some Russians and, when asked about it by the Feds, as part of a collusion investigation, he denied it. The Feds had a smoking gun so when they gave him a chance to admit it under oath, he chose to commit perjury instead and they had him.

well see, that's where it gets grey area. The point of the questioning was if he met russians for a meeting. he didn't. He met a russian out at a dinner or something with others. And the point of questioning was about a meeting. but fk, you just hate him because he worked for trump so facts aren't important to you. BTW, nor was he under oath.

 

[PoliticalChic]

They threatened his son if he didn't cop.

Win at any cost.....the motto of your side.

And since the aim of the Left is to destroy the concept of family, you won't understand Flynn's motivation.

They offered to let Flynn's son off the hook for his son's part in the conspiracy if papa would own up to what he did.

Is this the Right's view of family values?

What law did he break and what statements of his prove that?

You're welcome to Google the details but, as I recall, he met with some Russians and, when asked about it by the Feds, as part of a collusion investigation, he denied it. The Feds had a smoking gun so when they gave him a chance to admit it under oath, he chose to commit perjury instead and they had him.

"He became a senior advisor to Trump during his presidential campaign and served as the National Security Advisor ... "
Wikipedia.

What is the job of "the National Security Advisor ... "?

 

[jc456]

They threatened his son if he didn't cop.

Win at any cost.....the motto of your side.

And since the aim of the Left is to destroy the concept of family, you won't understand Flynn's motivation.

They offered to let Flynn's son off the hook for his son's part in the conspiracy if papa would own up to what he did.

Is this the Right's view of family values?

What law did he break and what statements of his prove that?

You're welcome to Google the details but, as I recall, he met with some Russians and, when asked about it by the Feds, as part of a collusion investigation, he denied it. The Feds had a smoking gun so when they gave him a chance to admit it under oath, he chose to commit perjury instead and they had him.

"He became a senior advisor to Trump during his presidential campaign and served as the National Security Advisor ... "
Wikipedia.

What is the job of "the National Security Advisor ... "?

ah damn it PC, you're making too much sense yet again. these people don't care about the truth or facts.

 

[PoliticalChic]

They've weaponized the #MeToo against anyone they see as enemies.



8. “FitzGibbon, like Julian Assange, was hit with sex accusations yet never prosecuted. The accusations came after internal documents from a government contractor showed an organized campaign to target and controversialize Assange, WikiLeaks and those associated with the group.

FitzGibbon admitted sexual contact with Radack, but claimed it was a consensual affair. He turned over to police sexually explicit photos and text messages she allegedly sent to him. He also eventually sued Radack (who declined our interview request due to the pending litigation).

Sharyl: So for a year you lived under the cloud of possible prosecution for rape?

FitzGibbon: Yes.

Sharyl: And what happened in that timeframe to you?

FitzGibbon: I couldn't defend myself in the press. I was vilified in the national media and on social media and the accusers— and whatever political machine came after me— used it to poison the water to make it almost impossible for me to get work.

Sharyl: You lost your business.

FitzGibbon: I lost the business, lost my home.”
Shades of Grey: A disturbing follow up to our story on allegedly false sex charges | Sharyl Attkisson


Democrats.....the death and destruction party.

 

[Pete7469]

Far and away too easy. Assholes like this should be made to suffer so much that they look forward to dying. First of all I'd hitch them to the back of a pickup and drag them around a little through some briers and brambles. Then maybe let them rest a little bit in an ant hill followed by some more dragging only a little faster while thinking up other creative methods to bring agony to the assholes.

Most people would be turned off by that. The best thing would be to round up about 2000 of the worst offenders within the federal government, put weights on them, and launch them into the atlantic about 20 miles out. It would need to be done quietly and out of sight, but the truth must be told, that they were executed by the power of the state for treason. Then round up about 100K of the most deviant traitors in "journalism" and "academia" that are poisoning the minds of the people and contracting with North Korea to confine them for the rest of their lives, no matter how brief that is. We will find out how great communism is then. As far as the several million hard core bed wetting drones go, provide subsidies to emigrate the fuck out of our beloved country, but not to anywhere in the hemisphere. Revoke all passports and convert their property to parks or provide homeless shelters.

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[berg80]

"So far, however, nothing has emerged that remotely clears Flynn; nothing has emerged that would require Sullivan to allow him to withdraw his plea; and nothing has emerged that would justify the Justice Department’s backing off of the case—or prosecuting it aggressively if Flynn were somehow allowed out of the very generous deal Special Counsel Robert Mueller cut him.

We have put together this post in an effort to cut through a lot of the disinformation floating around (like the bullshit post by the OP) about the Flynn case. We proceed in several distinct steps. First, we offer a procedural history of the case’s recent machinations—how we got to where we are, what the parties are fighting about and how these documents came to be public. Next, we examine the applicable law that governs the matters at issue. We then turn to what’s in the documents and how they interact with the legal standards. Finally, we offer some thoughts and analysis of where things are likely to go from here."

Flynn Redux: What Those FBI Documents Really Show

A lot of people seem to be expecting Michael Flynn's sudden vindication. They should take a deep breath.

www.lawfareblog.com

 

[PoliticalChic]

"So far, however, nothing has emerged that remotely clears Flynn; nothing has emerged that would require Sullivan to allow him to withdraw his plea; and nothing has emerged that would justify the Justice Department’s backing off of the case—or prosecuting it aggressively if Flynn were somehow allowed out of the very generous deal Special Counsel Robert Mueller cut him.

We have put together this post in an effort to cut through a lot of the disinformation floating around (like the bullshit post by the OP) about the Flynn case. We proceed in several distinct steps. First, we offer a procedural history of the case’s recent machinations—how we got to where we are, what the parties are fighting about and how these documents came to be public. Next, we examine the applicable law that governs the matters at issue. We then turn to what’s in the documents and how they interact with the legal standards. Finally, we offer some thoughts and analysis of where things are likely to go from here."

Flynn Redux: What Those FBI Documents Really Show

A lot of people seem to be expecting Michael Flynn's sudden vindication. They should take a deep breath.

www.lawfareblog.com

I asked you to cite the law he broke, and what he said that did so.

You couldn't, you windbag.

 

[jc456]

"So far, however, nothing has emerged that remotely clears Flynn; nothing has emerged that would require Sullivan to allow him to withdraw his plea; and nothing has emerged that would justify the Justice Department’s backing off of the case—or prosecuting it aggressively if Flynn were somehow allowed out of the very generous deal Special Counsel Robert Mueller cut him.

We have put together this post in an effort to cut through a lot of the disinformation floating around (like the bullshit post by the OP) about the Flynn case. We proceed in several distinct steps. First, we offer a procedural history of the case’s recent machinations—how we got to where we are, what the parties are fighting about and how these documents came to be public. Next, we examine the applicable law that governs the matters at issue. We then turn to what’s in the documents and how they interact with the legal standards. Finally, we offer some thoughts and analysis of where things are likely to go from here."

Flynn Redux: What Those FBI Documents Really Show

A lot of people seem to be expecting Michael Flynn's sudden vindication. They should take a deep breath.

www.lawfareblog.com

he will be released from his deal. watch.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"What rivets our attention at the moment is the silence of the Democrats and the liberal papers in respect of what happened to General Flynn. He’s recently gained access to astonishing Brady material handed over by the Justice Department. Some of the documents deal with the January 2017 interview of Flynn by the FBI in which he’d made the statements that were supposedly lies and to which he pleaded guilty.

It turns out, though, that the full circumstances of the interview had not been disclosed to the general until this year, when the Justice Department, now under Attorney General Barr, finally produced them. The material includes, say, handwritten notes, possibly by the former head of counterintelligence for the FBI, as writing: “What is our goal? Truth/Admission, or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?”

The Journal, which has been all over this story, notes in a weekend editorial that a separate document shows that the G-Men had already realized the allegations of Flynn-Russia collusion were not credible. “Why keep pursuing him on absurd Logan Act claims?” the Journal asks. Then again, too, there is the transcript of the general’s conversation with the Russian ambassador, which was also withheld from the defense."

The Flynn Case: Liberal Press Fails To Speak Up for Its Own Principles

This article is from the archive of The New York Sun before the launch of its new website in 2022. The Sun has neither altered nor updated such articles but will seek to correct any errors, mis-categorizations or other problems introduced during transfer.

www.nysun.com

 

[berg80]

I asked you to cite the law he broke, and what he said that did so.

Why don't you check his guilty plea, you fatuous blowhard.

 

[whitehall]

The attempt to ruin General Flynn's life wouldn't have happened if the mainstream media was doing it's job instead of becoming the propaganda arm of the socialist democratic party.

 

[berg80]

"Finally, there’s the president. Trump has not ruled out pardoning Flynn—and has recently railed against the prosecution. Flynn’s most likely path out of the criminal justice system is through presidential clemency, which could arrive any day and with no warning. A great deal of the legal machinations in court and the verbal machinations in the media may well be aimed not at the legal process but at inducing the president to finally grant Flynn a pardon."

This is all about Billy the Bagman working behind the scenes at Trump's direction in order to come up with a pretense for Vlad's favorite candidate to pardon the confessed, convicted felon Flynn.................in return for Flynn's loyalty. It's classic mob-like behavior.

 

[berg80]

The attempt to ruin General Flynn's life

Flynn did that to himself by his criminal act............and by deciding to join the admin of a fellow criminal.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I asked you to cite the law he broke, and what he said that did so.

Why don't you check his guilty plea, you fatuous blowhard.

See post #50......and weep.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"What is our goal? Truth/admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute," the notes reveal.” Unsealed Notes Reveal FBI Planned Perjury Trap For Flynn

Of course he could have avoided the trap by telling the TRUTH. What an absurd idea.

He did tell the truth.

So said the original FBI investigators, you dope.

So he told the truth and was then prosecuted for perjury, which he then admitted to? I understand your association with truth is rare but how is that possible?

 

[Dick Foster]

"What is our goal? Truth/admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute," the notes reveal.” Unsealed Notes Reveal FBI Planned Perjury Trap For Flynn

Of course he could have avoided the trap by telling the TRUTH. What an absurd idea.

He did tell the truth.

So said the original FBI investigators, you dope.

So he told the truth and was then prosecuted for perjury, which he then admitted to? I understand your association with truth is rare but how is that possible?

If you didn't have your head shoved so far up your ass you'd know. As it is you have to have your handlers send you telegrams of what you're supposed to think and say and then you need a flashlight to read them.

Didn't you mean to post this in the Conspiracy Theory room?

No I responed to the OP where it was, dumbass and it was posted here.
How many hours out of every day do you practice being stupid? I must say you're pretty good at it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"What is our goal? Truth/admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute," the notes reveal.” Unsealed Notes Reveal FBI Planned Perjury Trap For Flynn

Of course he could have avoided the trap by telling the TRUTH. What an absurd idea.

He did tell the truth.

So said the original FBI investigators, you dope.

So he told the truth and was then prosecuted for perjury, which he then admitted to? I understand your association with truth is rare but how is that possible?

If you didn't have your head shoved so far up your ass you'd know. As it is you have to have your handlers send you telegrams of what you're supposed to think and say and then you need a flashlight to read them.

Didn't you mean to post this in the Conspiracy Theory room?

No I responed to the OP where it was, dumbass and it was posted here.
How many hours out of every day do you practice being stupid? I must say you're pretty good at it.

Pretty good???????


He's perfected it!

 

[alang1216]

They threatened his son if he didn't cop.

Win at any cost.....the motto of your side.

And since the aim of the Left is to destroy the concept of family, you won't understand Flynn's motivation.

They offered to let Flynn's son off the hook for his son's part in the conspiracy if papa would own up to what he did.

Is this the Right's view of family values?

What law did he break and what statements of his prove that?

You're welcome to Google the details but, as I recall, he met with some Russians and, when asked about it by the Feds, as part of a collusion investigation, he denied it. The Feds had a smoking gun so when they gave him a chance to admit it under oath, he chose to commit perjury instead and they had him.

well see, that's where it gets grey area. The point of the questioning was if he met russians for a meeting. he didn't. He met a russian out at a dinner or something with others. And the point of questioning was about a meeting. but fk, you just hate him because he worked for trump so facts aren't important to you. BTW, nor was he under oath.

I guess no one would ever discuss business at a dinner, especially since these Russians were, I presume, childhood friends of Flynn so a diner would be a purely person event.

I don't know about the oath stuff but I'm pretty sure you don't lie to the FBI either way since that would obstruct their investigation

 

[alang1216]

They threatened his son if he didn't cop.

Win at any cost.....the motto of your side.

And since the aim of the Left is to destroy the concept of family, you won't understand Flynn's motivation.

They offered to let Flynn's son off the hook for his son's part in the conspiracy if papa would own up to what he did.

Is this the Right's view of family values?

What law did he break and what statements of his prove that?

You're welcome to Google the details but, as I recall, he met with some Russians and, when asked about it by the Feds, as part of a collusion investigation, he denied it. The Feds had a smoking gun so when they gave him a chance to admit it under oath, he chose to commit perjury instead and they had him.

"He became a senior advisor to Trump during his presidential campaign and served as the National Security Advisor ... "
Wikipedia.

What is the job of "the National Security Advisor ... "?

You're going to tell me it includes lying to the FBI? If Flynn did nothing wrong why didn't he say what he'd done? Why lie if you have nothing to hide?