Gay dads may make better parents according to a major new study

[TheProgressivePatriot]

People here dont [sic] care about what you stick up your ass, @TheProgressivePatriot, we don’t like you involving children.

And even if we're not allowed to say it, we all know why it is that you're so obsessed with dragging children into this sick shit.

Placing unwanted children in good homes to be raised by people who love them and want them is a good thing. At least they will not be taught to adopt trashy habits like calling people "faggots" and making obscene sexual references. I had a co-worker who was gay and adopted a baby boy. This man was a Sunday school teacher.

Same here. A former colleague of mine who owns several furniture stores in Los Angeles adopted a baby girl along with his long time partner, and they are two of the best parents that I've ever seen.

My wife and I have kept their child on occasion when they have had to travel on business, and she is well behaved, and is very well provided for, better than most children.

Another friend, a retired white school principal adopted a black child many years ago, when gay people had to stay in the closet to be safe from those like some of the ones commenting in this thread. He is now in his late 80's, bedridden, and his adopted son does everything for him.

These people are parents BY CHOICE, and were deemed as having the necessary means and the right environment to be good parents and have done a far better job than many other so called "traditional" parents that I've seen in my own lifetime. I'm retired and on the board of one the largest non profit organizations in Southern California, that helps people in need and have seen some awful, so called "regular" parents who should not even have a dog, let alone kids.

The homophobic nonsense that some are posting in this thread, is plain misinformed ignorance on the part of some people.

LOL see kid the problem lies not with the gay parents but with the childs inability to deal with homosexuality since they are straight born of straight parents. This leads to psychological dysfunction in the children then they end up dropping out of school running away or hanging themselves

Well, "kid", I haven't read anywhere about a child who grew up with gay parents, shooting up a public school or becoming a mass murderer, or even a child molester.

Have you?

And, of the gay parents that I do know, none have parented children who hung themselves or dropped out of school.


What I do know is that
the adoption process (at least in my state) requires thorough background checking and actual observation of the home that the child is to be placed in.

And if those criteria, among other necessary living conditions are questionable, there will be no adoption.

Thank you for bringing a measure of sanity and reasonableness to this otherwise disaster of a thread. I just don't know if essalla believes his own bullshit or is just playing a sick game. In any case, as I have said, he has blood on his hands. It's people like him who drive the self destructive behaviors

 

[esalla]

People here dont [sic] care about what you stick up your ass, @TheProgressivePatriot, we don’t like you involving children.

And even if we're not allowed to say it, we all know why it is that you're so obsessed with dragging children into this sick shit.

Placing unwanted children in good homes to be raised by people who love them and want them is a good thing. At least they will not be taught to adopt trashy habits like calling people "faggots" and making obscene sexual references. I had a co-worker who was gay and adopted a baby boy. This man was a Sunday school teacher.

Same here. A former colleague of mine who owns several furniture stores in Los Angeles adopted a baby girl along with his long time partner, and they are two of the best parents that I've ever seen.

My wife and I have kept their child on occasion when they have had to travel on business, and she is well behaved, and is very well provided for, better than most children.

Another friend, a retired white school principal adopted a black child many years ago, when gay people had to stay in the closet to be safe from those like some of the ones commenting in this thread. He is now in his late 80's, bedridden, and his adopted son does everything for him.

These people are parents BY CHOICE, and were deemed as having the necessary means and the right environment to be good parents and have done a far better job than many other so called "traditional" parents that I've seen in my own lifetime. I'm retired and on the board of one the largest non profit organizations in Southern California, that helps people in need and have seen some awful, so called "regular" parents who should not even have a dog, let alone kids.

The homophobic nonsense that some are posting in this thread, is plain misinformed ignorance on the part of some people.

LOL see kid the problem lies not with the gay parents but with the childs inability to deal with homosexuality since they are straight born of straight parents. This leads to psychological dysfunction in the children then they end up dropping out of school running away or hanging themselves

Well, "kid", I haven't read anywhere about a child who grew up with gay parents, shooting up a public school or becoming a mass murderer, or even a child molester.

Have you?

And, of the gay parents that I do know, none have parented children who hung themselves or dropped out of school.


What I do know is that
the adoption process (at least in my state) requires thorough background checking and actual observation of the home that the child is to be placed in.

And if those criteria, among other necessary living conditions are questionable, there will be no adoption.

Thank you for bringing a measure of sanity and reasonableness to this otherwise disaster of a thread. I just don't know if essalla believes his own bullshit or is just playing a sick game. In any case, as I have said, he has blood on his hands. It's people like him who drive the self destructive behaviors

Glad you are accepting that your ideas are a disaster

 

[Natural Citizen]

OP, you're a horrible representative for your cause, irrelevant of whether or not anyone agrees with it. You lack discipline and maturity. At best, you're a liability to your cause. You're also easily provoked to make an example of yourself. You have the wrong temperament to lead discussion.

 

[esalla]

People here dont [sic] care about what you stick up your ass, @TheProgressivePatriot, we don’t like you involving children.

And even if we're not allowed to say it, we all know why it is that you're so obsessed with dragging children into this sick shit.

Placing unwanted children in good homes to be raised by people who love them and want them is a good thing. At least they will not be taught to adopt trashy habits like calling people "faggots" and making obscene sexual references. I had a co-worker who was gay and adopted a baby boy. This man was a Sunday school teacher.

Same here. A former colleague of mine who owns several furniture stores in Los Angeles adopted a baby girl along with his long time partner, and they are two of the best parents that I've ever seen.

My wife and I have kept their child on occasion when they have had to travel on business, and she is well behaved, and is very well provided for, better than most children.

Another friend, a retired white school principal adopted a black child many years ago, when gay people had to stay in the closet to be safe from those like some of the ones commenting in this thread. He is now in his late 80's, bedridden, and his adopted son does everything for him.

These people are parents BY CHOICE, and were deemed as having the necessary means and the right environment to be good parents and have done a far better job than many other so called "traditional" parents that I've seen in my own lifetime. I'm retired and on the board of one the largest non profit organizations in Southern California, that helps people in need and have seen some awful, so called "regular" parents who should not even have a dog, let alone kids.

The homophobic nonsense that some are posting in this thread, is plain misinformed ignorance on the part of some people.

LOL see kid the problem lies not with the gay parents but with the childs inability to deal with homosexuality since they are straight born of straight parents. This leads to psychological dysfunction in the children then they end up dropping out of school running away or hanging themselves

Well, "kid", I haven't read anywhere about a child who grew up with gay parents, shooting up a public school or becoming a mass murderer, or even a child molester.

Have you?

And, of the gay parents that I do know, none have parented children who hung themselves or dropped out of school.


What I do know is that
the adoption process (at least in my state) requires thorough background checking and actual observation of the home that the child is to be placed in.

And if those criteria, among other necessary living conditions are questionable, there will be no adoption.

The only reason you do not see the depression and suicide of same sex parents children is you do not want to look

Depression and same-sex parenting

New study finds adult children of same-sex parents are twice as likely to be depressed

world.wng.org

You have no morals or children as you are and always will be a dead limb on the tree of life even if you do steal someone else child

You are already dead

People here dont [sic] care about what you stick up your ass, @TheProgressivePatriot, we don’t like you involving children.

And even if we're not allowed to say it, we all know why it is that you're so obsessed with dragging children into this sick shit.

Placing unwanted children in good homes to be raised by people who love them and want them is a good thing. At least they will not be taught to adopt trashy habits like calling people "faggots" and making obscene sexual references. I had a co-worker who was gay and adopted a baby boy. This man was a Sunday school teacher.

Same here. A former colleague of mine who owns several furniture stores in Los Angeles adopted a baby girl along with his long time partner, and they are two of the best parents that I've ever seen.

My wife and I have kept their child on occasion when they have had to travel on business, and she is well behaved, and is very well provided for, better than most children.

Another friend, a retired white school principal adopted a black child many years ago, when gay people had to stay in the closet to be safe from those like some of the ones commenting in this thread. He is now in his late 80's, bedridden, and his adopted son does everything for him.

These people are parents BY CHOICE, and were deemed as having the necessary means and the right environment to be good parents and have done a far better job than many other so called "traditional" parents that I've seen in my own lifetime. I'm retired and on the board of one the largest non profit organizations in Southern California, that helps people in need and have seen some awful, so called "regular" parents who should not even have a dog, let alone kids.

The homophobic nonsense that some are posting in this thread, is plain misinformed ignorance on the part of some people.

LOL see kid the problem lies not with the gay parents but with the childs inability to deal with homosexuality since they are straight born of straight parents. This leads to psychological dysfunction in the children then they end up dropping out of school running away or hanging themselves

Well, "kid", I haven't read anywhere about a child who grew up with gay parents, shooting up a public school or becoming a mass murderer, or even a child molester.

Have you?

And, of the gay parents that I do know, none have parented children who hung themselves or dropped out of school.


What I do know is that
the adoption process (at least in my state) requires thorough background checking and actual observation of the home that the child is to be placed in.

And if those criteria, among other necessary living conditions are questionable, there will be no adoption.

The only reason you do not see the depression and suicide of same sex parents children is you do not want to look

Depression and same-sex parenting

New study finds adult children of same-sex parents are twice as likely to be depressed

world.wng.org

You have no morals or children as you are and always will be a dead limb on the tree of life even if you do steal someone else child

You are already dead

ROFLMAO!
Whenever I see someone like you who passes judgement on the morals of complete strangers, it is usually a sure bet that there is some filthy laundry in their own closet.


My wife and I have a grown son and daughter as well as 3 grandchildren. And none of them were taught your kind of ignorance.


If a child with NO parents has an opportunity to be adopted into a caring and nurturing environment, even if it is with same sex parents versus life in the orphanage system, you actually believe the latter to be better?

That's crazy.

I read your link, because I am always willing to hear how others think. If you are capable of doing the same, here is some fact checked information.

FactCheck: are children ‘better off’ with a mother and father than with same-sex parents?

Discussing his opposition to same-sex marriage, Liberal MP Kevin Andrews said children who are brought up with a mother and father are ‘better off than those who are not’. Let’s look at the research.

theconversation.com

So in other words you do not care about the depression and suicides of the children of gay vgv parents. Also unless your dna is passed to your children you are a dead limb, all adoptive parents are

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

People here dont [sic] care about what you stick up your ass, @TheProgressivePatriot, we don’t like you involving children.

And even if we're not allowed to say it, we all know why it is that you're so obsessed with dragging children into this sick shit.

Placing unwanted children in good homes to be raised by people who love them and want them is a good thing. At least they will not be taught to adopt trashy habits like calling people "faggots" and making obscene sexual references. I had a co-worker who was gay and adopted a baby boy. This man was a Sunday school teacher.

Same here. A former colleague of mine who owns several furniture stores in Los Angeles adopted a baby girl along with his long time partner, and they are two of the best parents that I've ever seen.

My wife and I have kept their child on occasion when they have had to travel on business, and she is well behaved, and is very well provided for, better than most children.

Another friend, a retired white school principal adopted a black child many years ago, when gay people had to stay in the closet to be safe from those like some of the ones commenting in this thread. He is now in his late 80's, bedridden, and his adopted son does everything for him.

These people are parents BY CHOICE, and were deemed as having the necessary means and the right environment to be good parents and have done a far better job than many other so called "traditional" parents that I've seen in my own lifetime. I'm retired and on the board of one the largest non profit organizations in Southern California, that helps people in need and have seen some awful, so called "regular" parents who should not even have a dog, let alone kids.

The homophobic nonsense that some are posting in this thread, is plain misinformed ignorance on the part of some people.

LOL see kid the problem lies not with the gay parents but with the childs inability to deal with homosexuality since they are straight born of straight parents. This leads to psychological dysfunction in the children then they end up dropping out of school running away or hanging themselves

Well, "kid", I haven't read anywhere about a child who grew up with gay parents, shooting up a public school or becoming a mass murderer, or even a child molester.

Have you?

And, of the gay parents that I do know, none have parented children who hung themselves or dropped out of school.


What I do know is that
the adoption process (at least in my state) requires thorough background checking and actual observation of the home that the child is to be placed in.

And if those criteria, among other necessary living conditions are questionable, there will be no adoption.

The only reason you do not see the depression and suicide of same sex parents children is you do not want to look

Depression and same-sex parenting

New study finds adult children of same-sex parents are twice as likely to be depressed

world.wng.org

You have no morals or children as you are and always will be a dead limb on the tree of life even if you do steal someone else child

You are already dead

Holy Shit! You're using a so called study by Sullins to make your case. Are you ******* serious??! He is a Charlatan. A discredited and biased homophobe as his colleague Mark Regnerus who I believe that you previously used. .

Conservatives Seize On Hugely Flawed Study HYPERLINK "http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/02/10/3621375/regnerus-sullins-same-sex-parenting/

Conservatives are excitedly promoting a new study that supposedly reveals negative outcomes for the children of same-sex parents. Like the infamously flawed Mark Regnerus Study " rushed out two years ago, the new study seems timed to impact the Supreme Court’s upcoming consideration of marriage equality for same-sex couples. It suffers, however, from some of the same flaws and biases as Regnerus’ study, and doesn’t actually support the argument against marriage equality that it tries to make.

The new study comes from Donald Paul Sullins, a Catholic priest and sociology professor at Catholic University of America. Sullins is a fellow of the Marriage and Religion Research Institute, a project of the anti-LGBT Family Research Council,………
Sullins conducted an analysis of data from the National Health Interview Survey (NHIS) that had been collected from 1997-2013. He concluded that information about the 512 same-sex parents identified in the study demonstrates that their children have more emotional problems compared to couples raised by their biological different-sex couples………… In other words, same-sex couples should not be allowed to marry because they make inferior parents.

One of the first major flaws, however, is the fact that Sullins has no information about whether the same-sex couples were actually married……….No conclusions can actually be drawn about the impacts of legalizing same-sex marriage because the study, by its own admission, collected no data about same-sex marriage or its effect on children

Sullins notes that many of the children had a biological connection to one of the same-sex parents, but it’s unknown if these are from prior relationships, which would suggest their negative outcomes are related to a broken home instead of having two parents of the same sex.

As a vehicle for opposing same-sex marriage, the study severely lacks integrity, as its political positions don’t jibe with its data. “Biology matters,” Regnerus asserts, and Sullins emphasizes that his study identifies “the importance of common biological parentage for optimum child well-being.” Nowhere, however, does Sullins or Regnerus suggest that this has any policy implications for adoption or foster care by different-sex couples. It might be a hard case to make given Sullins has two adopted children of his own.
Conservatives praise these studies for their large samples, eagerly highlighting their negative results while ignore the distortions required to arrive at them. A recent large study from Australia with a similarly-sized pool of same-sex parents who had actually raised children together as couples found that the children have quite positive outcomes http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/02/10/3621375/regnerus-sullins-same-sex-parenting/
__________________________________________________________________
More from Sullins There Is Dangerous Power in Using 'Scientific' Findings to Undermine Gay Marriage

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Gay dads may make better parents according to a major new study

Researchers concluded that gay fathers "don’t conform to roles of conventional fathers" making them "highly involved in their children's lives...

www.lgbtqnation.com

More proof that gay men play an integral role is providing homes for the more than 125,000 children awaiting adoption is the US ( Foster care in the U.S. - number of children waiting for adoption 2018 | Statista )

Highlights of the study:

The study looked at a total of 92 fathers as well as their 46 children, each aged between 1 and 6 years of age. The families were all adoptive, and mainly came together using adoption services of the Centre intégré universitaire de santé et de services sociaux (CIUSSS)

Approximately 1/3 of the children in the care of CIUSS are adopted by gay fathers, which has been legal in Quebec since 2002.

What researchers found were that these parents were highly involved in their children’s lives, with both parents sharing the duties.

Both parents also displayed a wider palette of expression with their children versus straight couples. “They could be playmates, caregivers, protectors, role models, morality guides,” noted Feugé.

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“What’s really interesting is that they don’t conform to roles of conventional fathers,” added Feugé. “They were able to redefine and propose new models of cultural notions of paternity and masculinity.”

Oh for ***** sake... completely idiotic.
I don't care who did the study, there are assholes/losers of every creed/race/sexual orientation.
It does not matter. Just more of the anti-male rhetoric

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Gay dads may make better parents according to a major new study

Researchers concluded that gay fathers "don’t conform to roles of conventional fathers" making them "highly involved in their children's lives...

www.lgbtqnation.com

More proof that gay men play an integral role is providing homes for the more than 125,000 children awaiting adoption is the US ( Foster care in the U.S. - number of children waiting for adoption 2018 | Statista )

Highlights of the study:

The study looked at a total of 92 fathers as well as their 46 children, each aged between 1 and 6 years of age. The families were all adoptive, and mainly came together using adoption services of the Centre intégré universitaire de santé et de services sociaux (CIUSSS)

Approximately 1/3 of the children in the care of CIUSS are adopted by gay fathers, which has been legal in Quebec since 2002.

What researchers found were that these parents were highly involved in their children’s lives, with both parents sharing the duties.

Both parents also displayed a wider palette of expression with their children versus straight couples. “They could be playmates, caregivers, protectors, role models, morality guides,” noted Feugé.

View attachment 323044

“What’s really interesting is that they don’t conform to roles of conventional fathers,” added Feugé. “They were able to redefine and propose new models of cultural notions of paternity and masculinity.”

Dude that is so gay

 

[esalla]

View attachment 323863

I guess you never heard of surrogacy or in vitro fertilizations. Are you really that ignorant??

Are you really that desperate?

Look. The only time I've seen anyone raised by a homosexual couple, it was a Thai kid raised by Korean dykes. They treated him like shit, basically a slave, I got him out of there as often as possible. He got out of there himself as soon as he could and there's a chance he might just hate women for the way they did him, and I can't say I'd blame him.
This is the type of shit..pure shit that you are advocating for in the name of your faggotry. **** you with that, ok?

Kid might have turned out better if raised by a loving hetero couple.

In the end, i think he was just "turned out". Brain scrambled style.

Oh! I think he turned homo, so score one for your team, I suppose.

Raised by hateful lesbians, he turned to men to rebel.

They were hateful AF, too. That's why me and my friend felt sorry for him and brought him out with us when we could.

But he did steal, and ended up being queer.

So we had to cut ties.

What the **** are you blathering about??!!You just made that shit up!

No kid everything you do not agree with is not made up...…………………..

Get your AIDS test kid

No not everything, but your shit is

Give some thought to getting psychological treatment for your hostility, hate and for your obvious disorder where you demand that all people accept that gay parents are normal when nature forbids their existence

Oh and mention to the shrink that you keep responding to me after you say that you will not.

Hell you might get some Oxycontin to calm you down

You're god damned right I'm hostile but I'm not the one who needs help. Those of you consumed by hate and bigotry are the ones who need help

Actually you are the hateful contemptuous fool who is too scared to own up to their own sexuality because if pent up frustrations. I could care less how you live your life, but when you claim that the children adopted by gay parents are better off when they often attempt suicide as a result of their confused upbringing and the mockery that they endure, you need to be put in your place.

Enjoy your dead end excuse for life

You are the one who needs to be put in your place. You are doing everything possible to make sure that the mockery continues, instead of being a decent human being and making a good effort to stop it. Stop blaming these families and go after the scum who are responsible for the mockery and harassment.

Why do you keep harassing Progressive Patriot? His orientation is none of your business. You are definitely part of the problem. Learn common decency.

Why do you ignore depressed children hanging themselves.

Answer because you just love anal fisting

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

OP, you're a horrible representative for your cause, irrelevant of whether or not anyone agrees with it. You lack discipline and maturity. At best, you're a liability to your cause. You're also easily provoked to make an example of yourself. You have the wrong temperament to lead discussion.

Now tell me why I should give a shit what you think. Do you think that esalla has discipline and maturity.? If you do ,there is something seriously wrong with you

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Gay dads may make better parents according to a major new study

Researchers concluded that gay fathers "don’t conform to roles of conventional fathers" making them "highly involved in their children's lives...

www.lgbtqnation.com

More proof that gay men play an integral role is providing homes for the more than 125,000 children awaiting adoption is the US ( Foster care in the U.S. - number of children waiting for adoption 2018 | Statista )

Highlights of the study:

The study looked at a total of 92 fathers as well as their 46 children, each aged between 1 and 6 years of age. The families were all adoptive, and mainly came together using adoption services of the Centre intégré universitaire de santé et de services sociaux (CIUSSS)

Approximately 1/3 of the children in the care of CIUSS are adopted by gay fathers, which has been legal in Quebec since 2002.

What researchers found were that these parents were highly involved in their children’s lives, with both parents sharing the duties.

Both parents also displayed a wider palette of expression with their children versus straight couples. “They could be playmates, caregivers, protectors, role models, morality guides,” noted Feugé.

View attachment 323044

“What’s really interesting is that they don’t conform to roles of conventional fathers,” added Feugé. “They were able to redefine and propose new models of cultural notions of paternity and masculinity.”

Oh for ***** sake... completely idiotic.
I don't care who did the study, there are assholes/losers of every creed/race/sexual orientation.
It does not matter. Just more of the anti-male rhetoric

Oh for ***** sake, how is it anti male?

 

[Natural Citizen]

Now tell me why I should give a shit what you think. Do you think that esalla has discipline and maturity?

Non sequitur...

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Holy Shit! You're using a so called study by Sullins to make your case. Are you ******* serious??! He is a Charlatan. A discredited and biased homophobe as his colleague Mark Regnerus who I believe that you previously used.

You cited a bogus study,buy a gang of blatant pro-****** charlatans who openly disregarded accepted research standards, in order to try to justify a conclusion from evidence that completely failed to support that conclusion. In fact, you used that fake study as the entire basis for your OP.

And now you're calling someone else's much more legitimate study fake?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Gay dads may make better parents according to a major new study

Researchers concluded that gay fathers "don’t conform to roles of conventional fathers" making them "highly involved in their children's lives...

www.lgbtqnation.com

More proof that gay men play an integral role is providing homes for the more than 125,000 children awaiting adoption is the US ( Foster care in the U.S. - number of children waiting for adoption 2018 | Statista )

Highlights of the study:

The study looked at a total of 92 fathers as well as their 46 children, each aged between 1 and 6 years of age. The families were all adoptive, and mainly came together using adoption services of the Centre intégré universitaire de santé et de services sociaux (CIUSSS)

Approximately 1/3 of the children in the care of CIUSS are adopted by gay fathers, which has been legal in Quebec since 2002.

What researchers found were that these parents were highly involved in their children’s lives, with both parents sharing the duties.

Both parents also displayed a wider palette of expression with their children versus straight couples. “They could be playmates, caregivers, protectors, role models, morality guides,” noted Feugé.

View attachment 323044

“What’s really interesting is that they don’t conform to roles of conventional fathers,” added Feugé. “They were able to redefine and propose new models of cultural notions of paternity and masculinity.”

Dude that is so gay

That is so brilliant! Just ******* brillllllliant!

 

[katsteve2012]

People here dont [sic] care about what you stick up your ass, @TheProgressivePatriot, we don’t like you involving children.

And even if we're not allowed to say it, we all know why it is that you're so obsessed with dragging children into this sick shit.

Placing unwanted children in good homes to be raised by people who love them and want them is a good thing. At least they will not be taught to adopt trashy habits like calling people "faggots" and making obscene sexual references. I had a co-worker who was gay and adopted a baby boy. This man was a Sunday school teacher.

Same here. A former colleague of mine who owns several furniture stores in Los Angeles adopted a baby girl along with his long time partner, and they are two of the best parents that I've ever seen.

My wife and I have kept their child on occasion when they have had to travel on business, and she is well behaved, and is very well provided for, better than most children.

Another friend, a retired white school principal adopted a black child many years ago, when gay people had to stay in the closet to be safe from those like some of the ones commenting in this thread. He is now in his late 80's, bedridden, and his adopted son does everything for him.

These people are parents BY CHOICE, and were deemed as having the necessary means and the right environment to be good parents and have done a far better job than many other so called "traditional" parents that I've seen in my own lifetime. I'm retired and on the board of one the largest non profit organizations in Southern California, that helps people in need and have seen some awful, so called "regular" parents who should not even have a dog, let alone kids.

The homophobic nonsense that some are posting in this thread, is plain misinformed ignorance on the part of some people.

LOL see kid the problem lies not with the gay parents but with the childs inability to deal with homosexuality since they are straight born of straight parents. This leads to psychological dysfunction in the children then they end up dropping out of school running away or hanging themselves

Well, "kid", I haven't read anywhere about a child who grew up with gay parents, shooting up a public school or becoming a mass murderer, or even a child molester.

Have you?

And, of the gay parents that I do know, none have parented children who hung themselves or dropped out of school.


What I do know is that
the adoption process (at least in my state) requires thorough background checking and actual observation of the home that the child is to be placed in.

And if those criteria, among other necessary living conditions are questionable, there will be no adoption.

Thank you for bringing a measure of sanity and reasonableness to this otherwise disaster of a thread. I just don't know if essalla believes his own bullshit or is just playing a sick game. In any case, as I have said, he has blood on his hands. It's people like him who drive the self destructive behaviors

No problem. Who in their right mind would say such things?

One can go anywhere on the internet and find "studies" that support even the most ludicrous of beliefs. And he is no exception..

 

[katsteve2012]

People here dont [sic] care about what you stick up your ass, @TheProgressivePatriot, we don’t like you involving children.

And even if we're not allowed to say it, we all know why it is that you're so obsessed with dragging children into this sick shit.

Placing unwanted children in good homes to be raised by people who love them and want them is a good thing. At least they will not be taught to adopt trashy habits like calling people "faggots" and making obscene sexual references. I had a co-worker who was gay and adopted a baby boy. This man was a Sunday school teacher.

Same here. A former colleague of mine who owns several furniture stores in Los Angeles adopted a baby girl along with his long time partner, and they are two of the best parents that I've ever seen.

My wife and I have kept their child on occasion when they have had to travel on business, and she is well behaved, and is very well provided for, better than most children.

Another friend, a retired white school principal adopted a black child many years ago, when gay people had to stay in the closet to be safe from those like some of the ones commenting in this thread. He is now in his late 80's, bedridden, and his adopted son does everything for him.

These people are parents BY CHOICE, and were deemed as having the necessary means and the right environment to be good parents and have done a far better job than many other so called "traditional" parents that I've seen in my own lifetime. I'm retired and on the board of one the largest non profit organizations in Southern California, that helps people in need and have seen some awful, so called "regular" parents who should not even have a dog, let alone kids.

The homophobic nonsense that some are posting in this thread, is plain misinformed ignorance on the part of some people.

LOL see kid the problem lies not with the gay parents but with the childs inability to deal with homosexuality since they are straight born of straight parents. This leads to psychological dysfunction in the children then they end up dropping out of school running away or hanging themselves

Well, "kid", I haven't read anywhere about a child who grew up with gay parents, shooting up a public school or becoming a mass murderer, or even a child molester.

Have you?

And, of the gay parents that I do know, none have parented children who hung themselves or dropped out of school.


What I do know is that
the adoption process (at least in my state) requires thorough background checking and actual observation of the home that the child is to be placed in.

And if those criteria, among other necessary living conditions are questionable, there will be no adoption.

The only reason you do not see the depression and suicide of same sex parents children is you do not want to look

Depression and same-sex parenting

New study finds adult children of same-sex parents are twice as likely to be depressed

world.wng.org

You have no morals or children as you are and always will be a dead limb on the tree of life even if you do steal someone else child

You are already dead

People here dont [sic] care about what you stick up your ass, @TheProgressivePatriot, we don’t like you involving children.

And even if we're not allowed to say it, we all know why it is that you're so obsessed with dragging children into this sick shit.

Placing unwanted children in good homes to be raised by people who love them and want them is a good thing. At least they will not be taught to adopt trashy habits like calling people "faggots" and making obscene sexual references. I had a co-worker who was gay and adopted a baby boy. This man was a Sunday school teacher.

Same here. A former colleague of mine who owns several furniture stores in Los Angeles adopted a baby girl along with his long time partner, and they are two of the best parents that I've ever seen.

My wife and I have kept their child on occasion when they have had to travel on business, and she is well behaved, and is very well provided for, better than most children.

Another friend, a retired white school principal adopted a black child many years ago, when gay people had to stay in the closet to be safe from those like some of the ones commenting in this thread. He is now in his late 80's, bedridden, and his adopted son does everything for him.

These people are parents BY CHOICE, and were deemed as having the necessary means and the right environment to be good parents and have done a far better job than many other so called "traditional" parents that I've seen in my own lifetime. I'm retired and on the board of one the largest non profit organizations in Southern California, that helps people in need and have seen some awful, so called "regular" parents who should not even have a dog, let alone kids.

The homophobic nonsense that some are posting in this thread, is plain misinformed ignorance on the part of some people.

LOL see kid the problem lies not with the gay parents but with the childs inability to deal with homosexuality since they are straight born of straight parents. This leads to psychological dysfunction in the children then they end up dropping out of school running away or hanging themselves

Well, "kid", I haven't read anywhere about a child who grew up with gay parents, shooting up a public school or becoming a mass murderer, or even a child molester.

Have you?

And, of the gay parents that I do know, none have parented children who hung themselves or dropped out of school.


What I do know is that
the adoption process (at least in my state) requires thorough background checking and actual observation of the home that the child is to be placed in.

And if those criteria, among other necessary living conditions are questionable, there will be no adoption.

The only reason you do not see the depression and suicide of same sex parents children is you do not want to look

Depression and same-sex parenting

New study finds adult children of same-sex parents are twice as likely to be depressed

world.wng.org

You have no morals or children as you are and always will be a dead limb on the tree of life even if you do steal someone else child

You are already dead

ROFLMAO!
Whenever I see someone like you who passes judgement on the morals of complete strangers, it is usually a sure bet that there is some filthy laundry in their own closet.


My wife and I have a grown son and daughter as well as 3 grandchildren. And none of them were taught your kind of ignorance.


If a child with NO parents has an opportunity to be adopted into a caring and nurturing environment, even if it is with same sex parents versus life in the orphanage system, you actually believe the latter to be better?

That's crazy.

I read your link, because I am always willing to hear how others think. If you are capable of doing the same, here is some fact checked information.

FactCheck: are children ‘better off’ with a mother and father than with same-sex parents?

Discussing his opposition to same-sex marriage, Liberal MP Kevin Andrews said children who are brought up with a mother and father are ‘better off than those who are not’. Let’s look at the research.

theconversation.com

So in other words you do not care about the depression and suicides of the children of gay vgv parents. Also unless your dna is passed to your children you are a dead limb, all adoptive parents are

I care about the outcome of all children, but I don't think you do.

I put very little credence in the studies of bigots who have been widely debunked by far more credible scholars on this subject. I looked up the person that published the information that you posted, and he is nothing more than a bible thumping, moralizing, psuedo science pusher.

Has it ever occurred to you that if not for the system of adoption, far too many children would be wards of the state? Being adopted by a caring same sex couple is a far better than bouncing from home to home. I grew up with some kids that lived that kind of life, and in the end, things did not turn out well for them at all.

Or does THAT matter to you?

 

[esalla]

People here dont [sic] care about what you stick up your ass, @TheProgressivePatriot, we don’t like you involving children.

And even if we're not allowed to say it, we all know why it is that you're so obsessed with dragging children into this sick shit.

Placing unwanted children in good homes to be raised by people who love them and want them is a good thing. At least they will not be taught to adopt trashy habits like calling people "faggots" and making obscene sexual references. I had a co-worker who was gay and adopted a baby boy. This man was a Sunday school teacher.

Same here. A former colleague of mine who owns several furniture stores in Los Angeles adopted a baby girl along with his long time partner, and they are two of the best parents that I've ever seen.

My wife and I have kept their child on occasion when they have had to travel on business, and she is well behaved, and is very well provided for, better than most children.

Another friend, a retired white school principal adopted a black child many years ago, when gay people had to stay in the closet to be safe from those like some of the ones commenting in this thread. He is now in his late 80's, bedridden, and his adopted son does everything for him.

These people are parents BY CHOICE, and were deemed as having the necessary means and the right environment to be good parents and have done a far better job than many other so called "traditional" parents that I've seen in my own lifetime. I'm retired and on the board of one the largest non profit organizations in Southern California, that helps people in need and have seen some awful, so called "regular" parents who should not even have a dog, let alone kids.

The homophobic nonsense that some are posting in this thread, is plain misinformed ignorance on the part of some people.

LOL see kid the problem lies not with the gay parents but with the childs inability to deal with homosexuality since they are straight born of straight parents. This leads to psychological dysfunction in the children then they end up dropping out of school running away or hanging themselves

Well, "kid", I haven't read anywhere about a child who grew up with gay parents, shooting up a public school or becoming a mass murderer, or even a child molester.

Have you?

And, of the gay parents that I do know, none have parented children who hung themselves or dropped out of school.


What I do know is that
the adoption process (at least in my state) requires thorough background checking and actual observation of the home that the child is to be placed in.

And if those criteria, among other necessary living conditions are questionable, there will be no adoption.

The only reason you do not see the depression and suicide of same sex parents children is you do not want to look

Depression and same-sex parenting

New study finds adult children of same-sex parents are twice as likely to be depressed

world.wng.org

You have no morals or children as you are and always will be a dead limb on the tree of life even if you do steal someone else child

You are already dead

People here dont [sic] care about what you stick up your ass, @TheProgressivePatriot, we don’t like you involving children.

And even if we're not allowed to say it, we all know why it is that you're so obsessed with dragging children into this sick shit.

Placing unwanted children in good homes to be raised by people who love them and want them is a good thing. At least they will not be taught to adopt trashy habits like calling people "faggots" and making obscene sexual references. I had a co-worker who was gay and adopted a baby boy. This man was a Sunday school teacher.

Same here. A former colleague of mine who owns several furniture stores in Los Angeles adopted a baby girl along with his long time partner, and they are two of the best parents that I've ever seen.

My wife and I have kept their child on occasion when they have had to travel on business, and she is well behaved, and is very well provided for, better than most children.

Another friend, a retired white school principal adopted a black child many years ago, when gay people had to stay in the closet to be safe from those like some of the ones commenting in this thread. He is now in his late 80's, bedridden, and his adopted son does everything for him.

These people are parents BY CHOICE, and were deemed as having the necessary means and the right environment to be good parents and have done a far better job than many other so called "traditional" parents that I've seen in my own lifetime. I'm retired and on the board of one the largest non profit organizations in Southern California, that helps people in need and have seen some awful, so called "regular" parents who should not even have a dog, let alone kids.

The homophobic nonsense that some are posting in this thread, is plain misinformed ignorance on the part of some people.

LOL see kid the problem lies not with the gay parents but with the childs inability to deal with homosexuality since they are straight born of straight parents. This leads to psychological dysfunction in the children then they end up dropping out of school running away or hanging themselves

Well, "kid", I haven't read anywhere about a child who grew up with gay parents, shooting up a public school or becoming a mass murderer, or even a child molester.

Have you?

And, of the gay parents that I do know, none have parented children who hung themselves or dropped out of school.


What I do know is that
the adoption process (at least in my state) requires thorough background checking and actual observation of the home that the child is to be placed in.

And if those criteria, among other necessary living conditions are questionable, there will be no adoption.

The only reason you do not see the depression and suicide of same sex parents children is you do not want to look

Depression and same-sex parenting

New study finds adult children of same-sex parents are twice as likely to be depressed

world.wng.org

You have no morals or children as you are and always will be a dead limb on the tree of life even if you do steal someone else child

You are already dead

ROFLMAO!
Whenever I see someone like you who passes judgement on the morals of complete strangers, it is usually a sure bet that there is some filthy laundry in their own closet.


My wife and I have a grown son and daughter as well as 3 grandchildren. And none of them were taught your kind of ignorance.


If a child with NO parents has an opportunity to be adopted into a caring and nurturing environment, even if it is with same sex parents versus life in the orphanage system, you actually believe the latter to be better?

That's crazy.

I read your link, because I am always willing to hear how others think. If you are capable of doing the same, here is some fact checked information.

FactCheck: are children ‘better off’ with a mother and father than with same-sex parents?

Discussing his opposition to same-sex marriage, Liberal MP Kevin Andrews said children who are brought up with a mother and father are ‘better off than those who are not’. Let’s look at the research.

theconversation.com

So in other words you do not care about the depression and suicides of the children of gay vgv parents. Also unless your dna is passed to your children you are a dead limb, all adoptive parents are

I care about the outcome of all children, but I don't think you do.

I put very little credence in the studies of bigots who have been widely debunked by far more credible scholars on this subject. I looked up the person that published the information that you posted, and he is nothing more than a bible thumping, moralizing, psuedo science pusher.

Has it e ever occurred to you that if not for the system of adoption, far too many children would be wards of the state?

Or does THAT matter to you?

There are zero infants that go unadopted by straight parents in fact there is a long line so pay attention and stop putting fist in your holes

 

[Desperado]

They started out with a predetermined outcome. No surprise there.

And you know that how exactly?

They listed their favorite TV show as Modern Family

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Gay dads may make better parents according to a major new study

Researchers concluded that gay fathers "don’t conform to roles of conventional fathers" making them "highly involved in their children's lives...

www.lgbtqnation.com

More proof that gay men play an integral role is providing homes for the more than 125,000 children awaiting adoption is the US ( Foster care in the U.S. - number of children waiting for adoption 2018 | Statista )

Highlights of the study:

The study looked at a total of 92 fathers as well as their 46 children, each aged between 1 and 6 years of age. The families were all adoptive, and mainly came together using adoption services of the Centre intégré universitaire de santé et de services sociaux (CIUSSS)

Approximately 1/3 of the children in the care of CIUSS are adopted by gay fathers, which has been legal in Quebec since 2002.

What researchers found were that these parents were highly involved in their children’s lives, with both parents sharing the duties.

Both parents also displayed a wider palette of expression with their children versus straight couples. “They could be playmates, caregivers, protectors, role models, morality guides,” noted Feugé.

View attachment 323044

“What’s really interesting is that they don’t conform to roles of conventional fathers,” added Feugé. “They were able to redefine and propose new models of cultural notions of paternity and masculinity.”

Oh for ***** sake... completely idiotic.
I don't care who did the study, there are assholes/losers of every creed/race/sexual orientation.
It does not matter. Just more of the anti-male rhetoric

Oh for ***** sake, how is it anti male?

"Gay men are less masculine"... as in more effeminate. There is only masculinity and femininity.
Inferring of course that masculinity is baaaad.
Which - it is not. At all.
Masculinity is a HUGE positive aspect to raising a child.

 

[katsteve2012]

People here dont [sic] care about what you stick up your ass, @TheProgressivePatriot, we don’t like you involving children.

And even if we're not allowed to say it, we all know why it is that you're so obsessed with dragging children into this sick shit.

Placing unwanted children in good homes to be raised by people who love them and want them is a good thing. At least they will not be taught to adopt trashy habits like calling people "faggots" and making obscene sexual references. I had a co-worker who was gay and adopted a baby boy. This man was a Sunday school teacher.

Same here. A former colleague of mine who owns several furniture stores in Los Angeles adopted a baby girl along with his long time partner, and they are two of the best parents that I've ever seen.

My wife and I have kept their child on occasion when they have had to travel on business, and she is well behaved, and is very well provided for, better than most children.

Another friend, a retired white school principal adopted a black child many years ago, when gay people had to stay in the closet to be safe from those like some of the ones commenting in this thread. He is now in his late 80's, bedridden, and his adopted son does everything for him.

These people are parents BY CHOICE, and were deemed as having the necessary means and the right environment to be good parents and have done a far better job than many other so called "traditional" parents that I've seen in my own lifetime. I'm retired and on the board of one the largest non profit organizations in Southern California, that helps people in need and have seen some awful, so called "regular" parents who should not even have a dog, let alone kids.

The homophobic nonsense that some are posting in this thread, is plain misinformed ignorance on the part of some people.

LOL see kid the problem lies not with the gay parents but with the childs inability to deal with homosexuality since they are straight born of straight parents. This leads to psychological dysfunction in the children then they end up dropping out of school running away or hanging themselves

Well, "kid", I haven't read anywhere about a child who grew up with gay parents, shooting up a public school or becoming a mass murderer, or even a child molester.

Have you?

And, of the gay parents that I do know, none have parented children who hung themselves or dropped out of school.


What I do know is that
the adoption process (at least in my state) requires thorough background checking and actual observation of the home that the child is to be placed in.

And if those criteria, among other necessary living conditions are questionable, there will be no adoption.

The only reason you do not see the depression and suicide of same sex parents children is you do not want to look

Depression and same-sex parenting

New study finds adult children of same-sex parents are twice as likely to be depressed

world.wng.org

You have no morals or children as you are and always will be a dead limb on the tree of life even if you do steal someone else child

You are already dead

People here dont [sic] care about what you stick up your ass, @TheProgressivePatriot, we don’t like you involving children.

And even if we're not allowed to say it, we all know why it is that you're so obsessed with dragging children into this sick shit.

Placing unwanted children in good homes to be raised by people who love them and want them is a good thing. At least they will not be taught to adopt trashy habits like calling people "faggots" and making obscene sexual references. I had a co-worker who was gay and adopted a baby boy. This man was a Sunday school teacher.

Same here. A former colleague of mine who owns several furniture stores in Los Angeles adopted a baby girl along with his long time partner, and they are two of the best parents that I've ever seen.

My wife and I have kept their child on occasion when they have had to travel on business, and she is well behaved, and is very well provided for, better than most children.

Another friend, a retired white school principal adopted a black child many years ago, when gay people had to stay in the closet to be safe from those like some of the ones commenting in this thread. He is now in his late 80's, bedridden, and his adopted son does everything for him.

These people are parents BY CHOICE, and were deemed as having the necessary means and the right environment to be good parents and have done a far better job than many other so called "traditional" parents that I've seen in my own lifetime. I'm retired and on the board of one the largest non profit organizations in Southern California, that helps people in need and have seen some awful, so called "regular" parents who should not even have a dog, let alone kids.

The homophobic nonsense that some are posting in this thread, is plain misinformed ignorance on the part of some people.

LOL see kid the problem lies not with the gay parents but with the childs inability to deal with homosexuality since they are straight born of straight parents. This leads to psychological dysfunction in the children then they end up dropping out of school running away or hanging themselves

Well, "kid", I haven't read anywhere about a child who grew up with gay parents, shooting up a public school or becoming a mass murderer, or even a child molester.

Have you?

And, of the gay parents that I do know, none have parented children who hung themselves or dropped out of school.


What I do know is that
the adoption process (at least in my state) requires thorough background checking and actual observation of the home that the child is to be placed in.

And if those criteria, among other necessary living conditions are questionable, there will be no adoption.

The only reason you do not see the depression and suicide of same sex parents children is you do not want to look

Depression and same-sex parenting

New study finds adult children of same-sex parents are twice as likely to be depressed

world.wng.org

You have no morals or children as you are and always will be a dead limb on the tree of life even if you do steal someone else child

You are already dead

ROFLMAO!
Whenever I see someone like you who passes judgement on the morals of complete strangers, it is usually a sure bet that there is some filthy laundry in their own closet.


My wife and I have a grown son and daughter as well as 3 grandchildren. And none of them were taught your kind of ignorance.


If a child with NO parents has an opportunity to be adopted into a caring and nurturing environment, even if it is with same sex parents versus life in the orphanage system, you actually believe the latter to be better?

That's crazy.

I read your link, because I am always willing to hear how others think. If you are capable of doing the same, here is some fact checked information.

FactCheck: are children ‘better off’ with a mother and father than with same-sex parents?

Discussing his opposition to same-sex marriage, Liberal MP Kevin Andrews said children who are brought up with a mother and father are ‘better off than those who are not’. Let’s look at the research.

theconversation.com

So in other words you do not care about the depression and suicides of the children of gay vgv parents. Also unless your dna is passed to your children you are a dead limb, all adoptive parents are

I care about the outcome of all children, but I don't think you do.

I put very little credence in the studies of bigots who have been widely debunked by far more credible scholars on this subject. I looked up the person that published the information that you posted, and he is nothing more than a bible thumping, moralizing, psuedo science pusher.

Has it e ever occurred to you that if not for the system of adoption, far too many children would be wards of the state?

Or does THAT matter to you?

There are zero infants that go unadopted by straight parents in fact there is a long line so pay attention and stop putting fist in your holes

That is a flat out lie. You are so busy devoting your time to being an ignorant, homophobic bigot, that it prohibits you from doing any real fact finding.

If there is a "long line" of adoptive parents waiting to adopt, it is because of necessary screening, and not every couple is eligible.

As far as "putting fists in holes", it is beginning to sound like you have a secret shame and are projecting.

US Adoption Statistics | Adoption Network

US Adoption Statistics may surprise you as nearly 100 million Americans have adoption in their immediate family. Learn more here.

adoptionnetwork.com

 

[esalla]

People here dont [sic] care about what you stick up your ass, @TheProgressivePatriot, we don’t like you involving children.

And even if we're not allowed to say it, we all know why it is that you're so obsessed with dragging children into this sick shit.

Placing unwanted children in good homes to be raised by people who love them and want them is a good thing. At least they will not be taught to adopt trashy habits like calling people "faggots" and making obscene sexual references. I had a co-worker who was gay and adopted a baby boy. This man was a Sunday school teacher.

Same here. A former colleague of mine who owns several furniture stores in Los Angeles adopted a baby girl along with his long time partner, and they are two of the best parents that I've ever seen.

My wife and I have kept their child on occasion when they have had to travel on business, and she is well behaved, and is very well provided for, better than most children.

Another friend, a retired white school principal adopted a black child many years ago, when gay people had to stay in the closet to be safe from those like some of the ones commenting in this thread. He is now in his late 80's, bedridden, and his adopted son does everything for him.

These people are parents BY CHOICE, and were deemed as having the necessary means and the right environment to be good parents and have done a far better job than many other so called "traditional" parents that I've seen in my own lifetime. I'm retired and on the board of one the largest non profit organizations in Southern California, that helps people in need and have seen some awful, so called "regular" parents who should not even have a dog, let alone kids.

The homophobic nonsense that some are posting in this thread, is plain misinformed ignorance on the part of some people.

LOL see kid the problem lies not with the gay parents but with the childs inability to deal with homosexuality since they are straight born of straight parents. This leads to psychological dysfunction in the children then they end up dropping out of school running away or hanging themselves

Well, "kid", I haven't read anywhere about a child who grew up with gay parents, shooting up a public school or becoming a mass murderer, or even a child molester.

Have you?

And, of the gay parents that I do know, none have parented children who hung themselves or dropped out of school.


What I do know is that
the adoption process (at least in my state) requires thorough background checking and actual observation of the home that the child is to be placed in.

And if those criteria, among other necessary living conditions are questionable, there will be no adoption.

The only reason you do not see the depression and suicide of same sex parents children is you do not want to look

Depression and same-sex parenting

New study finds adult children of same-sex parents are twice as likely to be depressed

world.wng.org

You have no morals or children as you are and always will be a dead limb on the tree of life even if you do steal someone else child

You are already dead

People here dont [sic] care about what you stick up your ass, @TheProgressivePatriot, we don’t like you involving children.

And even if we're not allowed to say it, we all know why it is that you're so obsessed with dragging children into this sick shit.

Placing unwanted children in good homes to be raised by people who love them and want them is a good thing. At least they will not be taught to adopt trashy habits like calling people "faggots" and making obscene sexual references. I had a co-worker who was gay and adopted a baby boy. This man was a Sunday school teacher.

Same here. A former colleague of mine who owns several furniture stores in Los Angeles adopted a baby girl along with his long time partner, and they are two of the best parents that I've ever seen.

My wife and I have kept their child on occasion when they have had to travel on business, and she is well behaved, and is very well provided for, better than most children.

Another friend, a retired white school principal adopted a black child many years ago, when gay people had to stay in the closet to be safe from those like some of the ones commenting in this thread. He is now in his late 80's, bedridden, and his adopted son does everything for him.

These people are parents BY CHOICE, and were deemed as having the necessary means and the right environment to be good parents and have done a far better job than many other so called "traditional" parents that I've seen in my own lifetime. I'm retired and on the board of one the largest non profit organizations in Southern California, that helps people in need and have seen some awful, so called "regular" parents who should not even have a dog, let alone kids.

The homophobic nonsense that some are posting in this thread, is plain misinformed ignorance on the part of some people.

LOL see kid the problem lies not with the gay parents but with the childs inability to deal with homosexuality since they are straight born of straight parents. This leads to psychological dysfunction in the children then they end up dropping out of school running away or hanging themselves

Well, "kid", I haven't read anywhere about a child who grew up with gay parents, shooting up a public school or becoming a mass murderer, or even a child molester.

Have you?

And, of the gay parents that I do know, none have parented children who hung themselves or dropped out of school.


What I do know is that
the adoption process (at least in my state) requires thorough background checking and actual observation of the home that the child is to be placed in.

And if those criteria, among other necessary living conditions are questionable, there will be no adoption.

The only reason you do not see the depression and suicide of same sex parents children is you do not want to look

Depression and same-sex parenting

New study finds adult children of same-sex parents are twice as likely to be depressed

world.wng.org

You have no morals or children as you are and always will be a dead limb on the tree of life even if you do steal someone else child

You are already dead

ROFLMAO!
Whenever I see someone like you who passes judgement on the morals of complete strangers, it is usually a sure bet that there is some filthy laundry in their own closet.


My wife and I have a grown son and daughter as well as 3 grandchildren. And none of them were taught your kind of ignorance.


If a child with NO parents has an opportunity to be adopted into a caring and nurturing environment, even if it is with same sex parents versus life in the orphanage system, you actually believe the latter to be better?

That's crazy.

I read your link, because I am always willing to hear how others think. If you are capable of doing the same, here is some fact checked information.

FactCheck: are children ‘better off’ with a mother and father than with same-sex parents?

Discussing his opposition to same-sex marriage, Liberal MP Kevin Andrews said children who are brought up with a mother and father are ‘better off than those who are not’. Let’s look at the research.

theconversation.com

So in other words you do not care about the depression and suicides of the children of gay vgv parents. Also unless your dna is passed to your children you are a dead limb, all adoptive parents are

I care about the outcome of all children, but I don't think you do.

I put very little credence in the studies of bigots who have been widely debunked by far more credible scholars on this subject. I looked up the person that published the information that you posted, and he is nothing more than a bible thumping, moralizing, psuedo science pusher.

Has it e ever occurred to you that if not for the system of adoption, far too many children would be wards of the state?

Or does THAT matter to you?

There are zero infants that go unadopted by straight parents in fact there is a long line so pay attention and stop putting fist in your holes

That is a flat out lie. You are so busy devoting your time to being a ignorant, homophobic bigot, that it prohibits you from doing any real fact finding.

As far as "putting fists in holes", it is beginning to sound like you have a secret shame and are projecting.

US Adoption Statistics | Adoption Network

US Adoption Statistics may surprise you as nearly 100 million Americans have adoption in their immediate family. Learn more here.

adoptionnetwork.com

Is gay fisting a normal human behavior? Is putting two fist in another mans or womans anus or vagina normal in your opinion?

And there is a waiting list for all infants put up for adoption, gays are not needed to make sure that all infants are placed..... why do you think people skip this list and pay a surrogate