Gas prices $2.60 near me - Righty narratives flop

[Lesh]

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So, we sell 40% of the crude we get from Canada to the rest of the world. Now I will amend my statement somewhat. While 97% of it reaches us, 97% of it does not get consumed by us. If the US refilled the SOR (Strategic Oil Reserve) and then supplied the rest of it to the US, the prices would be significantly lower. But I'm no economist by any stretch.

Nonsense. If stopping the pipeline caused higher prices but 97% of the oil that would have gone through it gets to the US in other ways…

Huh?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Anyone here paying $2.69 or less for gas, do you have a oil pipeline running through your state? I have the Colonial pipeline

 

[Rambunctious]

So you are saying the lockdowns saved lives. Numbers picked up when states reopened after all. Fascinating.

You’re now blaming Biden for the mistake of states opening back up? Seems weird. I doubt you think opening up is a mistake. What was Biden’s mistake?

Sure they did in homes where people didn't have to leave their homes... but look at what happened in rest homes... they were shut in and we lost thousands of them... I never got covid... I live alone... but my ex wife a nurse got it three times and my son and daughter did as well...
But was it the right thing to do?... no it made covid last longer and gave it time to mutate and adjust to our vaccines... we should have done what only one nation on the planet did and stay open so the population could immune itself....
To expect perfection at a time like that is foolhardy.... and it should never be politicized like you tards do....

 

[TemplarKormac]

Nonsense. If stopping the pipeline caused higher prices but 97% of the oil that would have gone through it gets to the US in other ways…

Huh?

I am saying the pipeline would have reduced gas prices even further, and any decrease people may have seen due to it's completion never came to be when it was nixed. So any decrease in price you don't see eventually becomes an increase in an economy with high grocery prices, rent, and other essential commodities.

The consumers get a 60% share of the crude the US gets from Canada. Imagine if we got 80% instead? With a major pipeline running in from Canada?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Nonsense. If stopping the pipeline caused higher prices but 97% of the oil that would have gone through it gets to the US in other ways…

Huh?

Just because all of it reaches the US doesn't mean the consumer gets it all. It is sold to other countries or put in the reserve.

We get 97% but the consumers don't.

 

[Lesh]

Sure they did in homes where people didn't have to leave their homes... but look at what happened in rest homes... they were shut in and we lost thousands of them... I never got covid... I live alone... but my ex wife a nurse got it three times and my son and daughter did as well...
But was it the right thing to do?... no it made covid last longer and gave it time to mutate and adjust to our vaccines... we should have done what only one nation on the planet did and stay open so the population could immune itself....
To expect perfection at a time like that is foolhardy.... and it should never be politicized like you tards do....

Risk f homes were not hermetically sealed

Plenty of sick people went in and out. Doctors nurses, staff. Food deliveries

 

[Marener]

Sure they did in homes where people didn't have to leave their homes... but look at what happened in rest homes... they were shut in and we lost thousands of them... I never got covid... I live alone... but my ex wife a nurse got it three times and my son and daughter did as well...
But was it the right thing to do?... no it made covid last longer and gave it time to mutate and adjust to our vaccines... we should have done what only one nation on the planet did and stay open so the population could immune itself....
To expect perfection at a time like that is foolhardy.... and it should never be politicized like you tards do....

Gotcha. So Biden didn’t really make a mistake. Trump did.

It wouldn’t have been politicized if Trump hadn’t fucked up the messaging so much early on. He was trying to downplay it and people were rightly pointing out he was not being fully honest. Merely disagreeing with Trump is not politicizing anything.

 

[otto105]

Just because all of it reaches the US doesn't mean the consumer gets it all. It is sold to other countries or put in the reserve.

We get 97% but the consumers don't.

It’s sold to world markets and not dedicated to the US domestic markets.

Which is why the pipeline was just a political football.

 

[Lesh]

Just because all of it reaches the US doesn't mean the consumer gets it all. It is sold to other countries or put in the reserve.

We get 97% but the consumers don't.

You do realize that the “we” isn’t the government right? It’s oil companies

They do with it what they will

But the pipeline didn’t prevent anything . As you noted

 

[TemplarKormac]

It’s sold to world markets and not dedicated to the US domestic markets.

Which is why the pipeline was just a political football.

What we get from Canada, 40% of it, is resold to the world markets or put in the reserves.

I beg to differ about it being a "political football."

 

[Lesh]

What we get from Canada, 40% of it, is resold to the world markets or put in the reserves.

I beg to differ about it being a "political football."

You just said that 97% “we got”.

The “we” is oil companies. What they do with it from there is on them

You seem confused again

 

[TemplarKormac]

You do realize that the “we” isn’t the government right? It’s oil companies

Due to government regulations, anything bought and sold, including gas, is subject to government purview. The government does get its oil from oil companies it has contracted itself to.

And any legal citizen that lives here is subject to government jurisdiction. So for all intents and purposes, "we" is the correct term.

 

[otto105]

What we get from Canada, 40% of it, is resold to the world markets or put in the reserves.

I beg to differ about it being a "political football."

If we buy it, it can be put to to our reserves.

Again, the Canadian tar sands oil made it to world markets, but the pipeline is what.

 

[Rambunctious]

Gotcha. So Biden didn’t really make a mistake. Trump did.

It wouldn’t have been politicized if Trump hadn’t fucked up the messaging so much early on. He was trying to downplay it and people were rightly pointing out he was not being fully honest. Merely disagreeing with Trump is not politicizing anything.

Are you kidding?... Biden had the advantage of hindsight... and new information but he was intent on forcing people to vaccinate and made one bad move after another... Cuomo is going to be prosecuted for his role in covid and remember how you all thought he had things right and Trump was wrong?... come on man you are spinning your wheels...

 

[TemplarKormac]

But the pipeline didn’t prevent anything . As you noted

Speculative.

It's abandonment prevented a further decrease in oil prices. Basic supply and demand economics will tell you that.

More oil, lower prices, less oil, higher prices. Not a foreign concept.

 

[Lesh]

Due to government regulations, anything bought and sold, including gas, is subject to government purview. The government does get its oil from oil companies it has contracted itself to.

And any legal citizen that lives here is subject to government jurisdiction. So for all intents and purposes, "we" is the correct term.

So what regulations mandated that oil be sold outside the country?

 

[Lesh]

Speculative.

It's abandonment prevented a further decrease in oil prices. Basic supply and demand economics will tell you that.

More oil, lower prices, less oil, higher prices. Not a foreign concept.

But wait… if the lack of that pipeline prevented only 3% of what would have gone through it from getting here… how was supply restricted

Confusing huh?

 

[TemplarKormac]

If we buy it, it can be put to to our reserves.

Again, the Canadian tar sands oil made it to world markets, but the pipeline is what.

Made it to world markets, either through them, or, by proxy, us. I'm not denying it reached the world market, I am debating how much of it reached the US consumer, because as any good politician, president, or political debater should, they should seek maximum benefit for the US consumer first and foremost.

 

[otto105]

Are you kidding?... Biden had the advantage of hindsight... and new information but he was intent on forcing people to vaccinate and made one bad move after another... Cuomo is going to be prosecuted for his role in covid and remember how you all thought he had things right and Trump was wrong?... come on man you are spinning your wheels...

Because that was the right thing to do.

You garbage fuckups want to bring polio back.

 

[Lesh]

Made it to world markets, either through them, or, by proxy, us. I'm not denying it reached the world market, I am debating how much of it reached the US consumer, because as any good politician, president, or political debater should, they should seek maximum benefit for the US consumer first and foremost.

Oil companies do that?

Since when?