Gallup: Government Too Powerful

[Antares]

I think you have me confused with someone else, as no one "left" me.

True, you had no one to begin with.

You were never man enough, my apologies.

Probably have had more ***** than you ever will, Son,

An undeniable truth of life is that if you have to brag" about it it isn't true.

We both know that you have paid for evey piece of ass you have ever had.

Ain't capitalism grand?

 

[Vox]

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don't play typical leftard games - it won't work.

I know you hate the idea of the welfare recipients being controlled and checked, including for drugs - but that is exactly how the welfare recipients are being checked and controlled in Europe. In every country.
So stop lying about something you have no idea about.

Since you and others are so ignorant on Europe - stop spewing lies about "socialist Europe". To some point it is more "socialist" - as it is much more controlling every move of the citizen, but isn't that what you, government worshipers want?

oh, and some icing - NOWHERE in Europe abortion on demand is allowed past 12 weeks gestational age. NOWHERE.

How do you like European "socialism"?

In Europe, government pays for the abortions, so women don't have to wait until after the 12th week to get them.

I have no problem with drug testing welfare recipients, other than realizing it's a complete waste of resources. I think it just shows the mean-spiritedness of a lot of you guys.

No, government does not pay for abortions "in Europe" since not every European country has universal health care.

It is not existent on demand past 12 weeks anywhere else except this barbaric country.
And it was NEVER permitted past 12 weeks - ever - in Europe - no matter who payed for it.

And I could not care less what you think of the need to drug test the welfare recipients - mean-spirited or not - in Europe you test positive - you are cut off the feeding tube. Or placed in mandatory rehab, or other restrictions.
No dope for you payed by my tax money.

 

[JoeB131]

True, you had no one to begin with.

You were never man enough, my apologies.

Probably have had more ***** than you ever will, Son,

An undeniable truth of life is that if you have to brag" about it it isn't true.

We both know that you have paid for evey piece of ass you have ever had.

Ain't capitalism grand?

Yeah, you proved it, you're about 14.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You missed the whole Katrina thing when all those Red State types were all bitching that FEMA didn't respond fast enough. !

You lying sack of crap. It was ridiculous, idiotic, far-left loons like you who jumped to blame President Bush for a natural disaster while local democrat government left their own friends and neighbors to perish.

Okay, but LA voted for BUsh twice, that still makes it a red state. And they whined a lot when they didn't get the help they needed.

Bush fucked up Katrina. Sorry, he just did. So did Nagin and Landrieu, but as Harry Truman said, "the Buck Stops Here".

That still doesn't matter. Obama fucked up Sandy, and New Jersey voted Obama twice, so that makes them a blue state. New York voted for Obama twice, so that makes THEM a blue state. Guess they got what they voted for.

Shut your trap Joe.

 

[Vox]

But, Roo, try to live in a universe where Dubya isn't considered a complete fuckup.

Again...poor Joe....integrity demands I distance myself Bush's failed Presidency.....but you?

You are encumbered with integrity and choose to swallow Bammy jizzz.

Dumb ****.

Didn't vote for Obama in 2008.

Only voted for him in 2012 because you dipshits nominated a Weird Mormon Robot who thought that 120 Chinese Babes crowded into a dorm with one bathroom to make him more money was a wonderful thing.

I've criticized Obama when it's been appropriate. Most recently, I thought his idea to make war on Syria was a horrible idea.

BUt I do understand how you guys need to distance yourself from Bush. It was the closest conservatives got to getting everything they wanted. And it was a complete ******* disaster.

Bush is as far from conservative as obabble is from a moderate.
And I have no problem with Bush whatsoever - he was a much better president than we have now. what is now - is a disaster.

 

[JoeB131]

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No, government does not pay for abortions "in Europe" since not every European country has universal health care.

It is not existent on demand past 12 weeks anywhere else except this barbaric country.
And it was NEVER permitted past 12 weeks - ever - in Europe - no matter who payed for it.

Guy, you work on the assumption that doctors are following the arbitrary rules... They don't. Women in Europe have NO PROBLEM getting abortions.

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And I could not care less what you think of the need to drug test the welfare recipients - mean-spirited or not - in Europe you test positive - you are cut off the feeding tube. Or placed in mandatory rehab, or other restrictions.
No dope for you payed by my tax money.

Actually, in Europe, they treat addiction as a medical problem, not a criminal one... which is why they don't have a huge prison establishment like we do.

Sorry, guy, you conservatards would SCREAM if we had European style welfare with 75% tax rates on the wealthy.

 

[Antares]

Probably have had more ***** than you ever will, Son,

An undeniable truth of life is that if you have to brag" about it it isn't true.

We both know that you have paid for evey piece of ass you have ever had.

Ain't capitalism grand?

Yeah, you proved it, you're about 14.

Awww Joe....you are gay aren't you?

 

[JoeB131]

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Awww Joe....you are gay aren't you?

Shhh... the grownups are talking.

I'll talk to you when you act like an adult.

 

[TemplarKormac]

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Awww Joe....you are gay aren't you?

Shhh... the grownups are talking.

I'll talk to you when you act like an adult.

Stop talking Joe. You are far from being an adult. It's sad, you're 51 years old and calling names like a child. Clam up, the real adults here are talking.

 

[JoeB131]

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Bush is as far from conservative as obabble is from a moderate.
And I have no problem with Bush whatsoever - he was a much better president than we have now. what is now - is a disaster.

Bush was more of a "conservative" than Reagan was.

Reagan gave UNCONDITIONAL Amnesty to 3 million illegal aliens. Bush tried to give them a VERY CONDITIONAL amnesty, and couldn't get that passed.

Reagan appointed moderates to two of his three SCOTUS appointments. Bush appointed conservatives to both of his.

Reagan raised taxes after cutting them. Bush would never do that.

And sorry, look at Bush's record.

2 Recessions, including the worst on in 80 years.
A War based on a LIE, costing 5000 American lives and a trillion dollars.
A war that was so ineptly carried out, the criminals of 9/11 got away with their lives.
A major city wiped off the map due to poor disaster preparation.


You can criticize Obama, and I have, but frankly, the record of fuckups on Bush's watch are unrivalled.

 

[JoeB131]

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Stop talking Joe. You are far from being an adult. It's sad, you're 51 years old and calling names like a child. Clam up, the real adults here are talking.

Says the guy who can't hold down a minimum wage job? And still lives at home?

 

[Antares]

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Awww Joe....you are gay aren't you?

Shhh... the grownups are talking.

I'll talk to you when you act like an adult.

Joe you aren't on my level, you have no integrity...

You've never seen the day when you were an adult.

You are so full of hatred you can't see straight....

I beg you...start the Civil War you so desire....

 

[Vox]

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No, government does not pay for abortions "in Europe" since not every European country has universal health care.

It is not existent on demand past 12 weeks anywhere else except this barbaric country.
And it was NEVER permitted past 12 weeks - ever - in Europe - no matter who payed for it.

Guy, you work on the assumption that doctors are following the arbitrary rules... They don't. Women in Europe have NO PROBLEM getting abortions.

Not past 12 weeks gestational age - no abortion on demand past that term, only in certain situations and ONLY if a PANEL and often a JUDGE permits that. And doctors ARE following ALL the rules if they do not want to lose their licenses.
More ignorance and more lies, Joe, is not serving well your image of a "big boy"

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And I could not care less what you think of the need to drug test the welfare recipients - mean-spirited or not - in Europe you test positive - you are cut off the feeding tube. Or placed in mandatory rehab, or other restrictions.
No dope for you payed by my tax money.

Actually, in Europe, they treat addiction as a medical problem, not a criminal one... which is why they don't have a huge prison establishment like we do.

Sorry, guy, you conservatards would SCREAM if we had European style welfare with 75% tax rates on the wealthy.

and I agree with that. as I do agree that our prosecuting every gram of marijuana is idiotic and even more idiotic is mandatory sentencing ( not only on "drug crimes")
But my point was - they do not allow their tax money to flush down the toilet as we do.
And that what I would like to see implemented here as well.

Europe DOES NOT have 75% taxes, so stop LYING.
even in France it was never imposed as t was ruled unconstitutional by their Supreme court.
Learn the facts before you spew the lies around. Though leftards always lie

 

[JoeB131]

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Joe you aren't on my level, you have no integrity...

You've never seen the day when you were an adult.

You are so full of hatred you can't see straight....

I beg you...start the Civil War you so desire....

Shhh...the Grownups are talking. Go back to your toys...

 

[TemplarKormac]

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Bush is as far from conservative as obabble is from a moderate.
And I have no problem with Bush whatsoever - he was a much better president than we have now. what is now - is a disaster.

Bush was more of a "conservative" than Reagan was.

Reagan gave UNCONDITIONAL Amnesty to 3 million illegal aliens. Bush tried to give them a VERY CONDITIONAL amnesty, and couldn't get that passed.

Reagan appointed moderates to two of his three SCOTUS appointments. Bush appointed conservatives to both of his.

Reagan raised taxes after cutting them. Bush would never do that.

And sorry, look at Bush's record.

2 Recessions, including the worst on in 80 years.
A War based on a LIE, costing 5000 American lives and a trillion dollars.
A war that was so ineptly carried out, the criminals of 9/11 got away with their lives.
A major city wiped off the map due to poor disaster preparation.


You can criticize Obama, and I have, but frankly, the record of fuckups on Bush's watch are unrivalled.

Your Bush argument is a non sequitur, and it's ******* old. Obama's fucked up on Sandy, got whipped on foreign policy, ran up the debt, oversaw the larges grant of amnesty for illegals SINCE Reagan... I mean the list goes on and on and on.

You have no other argument, other than "Bush did it, so Obama gets a free pass when he does it."

 

[Antares]

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Joe you aren't on my level, you have no integrity...

You've never seen the day when you were an adult.

You are so full of hatred you can't see straight....

I beg you...start the Civil War you so desire....

Shhh...the Grownups are talking. Go back to your toys...

Ahh yes, you have so much "*****" you MUST be an adult

Sorry sissy boy you've been ***** slapped by everybody on this forum.

 

[JoeB131]

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and I agree with thata s I do agree that our prosecuting every gram of marijuana is idiotic and even more idiotic is mandatory sentencing ( not only on "drug crimes")
But my point was - they do not allow their tax money to flush down the toilet as we do.
And that what I would like to see implemented here as well.

That would be great and all, but when the Europeans treat drug abuse as a MEDICAL problem, who do you think pays for that? Come one. Give you a guess.

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Europe DOES NOT have 75% taxes, so stop LYING.
even in France it was never imposed as t was ruled unconstitutional by their Supreme court.
Learn the facts before you spew the lies around.

European states have MASSIVE taxes on the rich

Again, I'm game. Treat the drug addicts like medical issues and massively tax the rich? Let's roll, baby.

 

[JoeB131]

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Joe you aren't on my level, you have no integrity...

You've never seen the day when you were an adult.

You are so full of hatred you can't see straight....

I beg you...start the Civil War you so desire....

Shhh...the Grownups are talking. Go back to your toys...

Ahh yes, you have so much "*****" you MUST be an adult

Sorry sissy boy you've been ***** slapped by everybody on this forum.

I'm just going to let you cry out your tantrum in the corner, little boy...

I mean, seriously, WTF with the kiddie icon?

 

[freedombecki]

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Well, this is a nice way to start the day:

Americans' Belief That Gov't Is Too Powerful at Record Level

It's now 60 to 32.

We're clearly moving towards the more centralized bureaucracy that the Left covets, but it's nice to see that the narcissistic thugs and liars in D.C. have not yet taken over the American psyche..

60% of the American people haven't been brainwashed by Obama's lying Happy Talk. Yeah, I believe it.

 

[JoeB131]

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Your Bush argument is a non sequitur, and it's ******* old. Obama's fucked up on Sandy, got whipped on foreign policy, ran up the debt, oversaw the larges grant of amnesty for illegals SINCE Reagan... I mean the list goes on and on and on.

You have no other argument, other than "Bush did it, so Obama gets a free pass when he does it."

Okay, this is actually close to an adult conversation. The list may go on, but these were the best four you could come up with.

Except that he really didn't screw up Sandy the way Bush screwed up Katrina. Again, CHristie and Bloomberg, both Republican tools of Wall Street, have praised the hell out of him.

On foreign policy. Hmm.. We're out of Iraq. We're getting out of Afghanistan, bin Laden is sleeping with the fishes, Qadafy is with his 76 virgins, we got Assad to give up his weapons of WMD without a shot fired. The world actually LIKES us again.

Bush doubled the debt, Obama ran it up by 50% because of obligations Bush incurred. Then he finally stopped the obscene tax giveaway to rich folks, and the deficit was halved.

Can't see why decriminilzing Americans for acts their parents committed when they were children is a bad thing. But I have this odd thing called "compassion". You should try it sometime.