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Fully Vaccinated People Represent Over 50% of Cases and Hospitalizations in Several Regions

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Nobody takes right-wingers seriously about anything serious.

About three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated against the coronavirus with four of them ending up in the hospital, according to new data published Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
There is no test for the Delta Variant. If you cannot test for it, you cannot identify it. How do you know it exists?

Further, the vaccinated can still infect others. You may be killing the elderly and the immunocompromised who cannot get this vaccine.

Wasn't that the big reason for EVERYONE getting this in the first place? THINK ABOUT GRANNY.
 

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There is no test for the Delta Variant. If you cannot test for it, you cannot identify it. How do you know it exists?

Further, the vaccinated can still infect others. You may be killing the elderly and the immunocompromised who cannot get this vaccine.

Wasn't that the big reason for EVERYONE getting this in the first place? THINK ABOUT GRANNY.
That right-wing myth has already been debunked. It merely costs more to do a more comprehensive test.
 
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That right-wing myth has already been debunked. It merely costs more to do a more comprehensive test.
Absolutely--There is no quick test, and there is NO WAY that they are doing 'Delta' lab testing on this many people.
So the numbers, and cases are ASSUMED.

There is not a specific test for the delta variant.

However, since the vast majority of COVID-19 cases in the U.S. are the delta variant, it's likely a positive test result indicates you could be infected with the delta variant, according to Human and Health Services of Texas.


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The vaccinated can still infect others. You may be killing the elderly and the immunocompromised who cannot get this vaccine.

Wasn't that the big reason for EVERYONE getting this in the first place? THINK ABOUT GRANNY.
 

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There is no test for the Delta Variant. If you cannot test for it, you cannot identify it. How do you know it exists?

Further, the vaccinated can still infect others. You may be killing the elderly and the immunocompromised who cannot get this vaccine.

Wasn't that the big reason for EVERYONE getting this in the first place? THINK ABOUT GRANNY.
They know what virus people have so yes. They can test for Delta
 

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There is no test for the Delta Variant. If you cannot test for it, you cannot identify it. How do you know it exists?

Further, the vaccinated can still infect others. You may be killing the elderly and the immunocompromised who cannot get this vaccine.

Wasn't that the big reason for EVERYONE getting this in the first place? THINK ABOUT GRANNY.
The worst cases are from the unvaccinated. Those who can't get the shot need to self quarantine. If everyone else were vaccinated, they would not get as sick if they catch it
 
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They know what virus people have so yes. They can test for Delta
Oh they have a test for Covid, and the Corona Virus, not Delta.

 
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The worst cases are from the unvaccinated. Those who can't get the shot need to self quarantine. If everyone else were vaccinated, they would not get as sick if they catch it
What about those who cannot be vaccinated? What about the vaccinated infecting them? What is the point?
 

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What about those who cannot be vaccinated? What about the vaccinated infecting them? What is the point?
It is less likely for them to infect others compared to the unvaccinated who are more likely to ensure the pathogen mutates into more virulent strains.

From September through November of 1918, the death rate from the Spanish flu skyrocketed. In the United States alone, 195,000 Americans died from the Spanish flu in just the month of October. And unlike a normal seasonal flu, which mostly claims victims among the very young and very old, the second wave of the Spanish flu exhibited what’s called a “W curve”—high numbers of deaths among the young and old, but also a huge spike in the middle composed of otherwise healthy 25- to 35-year-olds in the prime of their life.

“That really freaked out the medical establishment, that there was this atypical spike in the middle of the W,” says Harris.

 
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It is less likely for them to infect others compared to the unvaccinated who are more likely to ensure the pathogen mutates into more virulent strains.

Absolutely no way for you to prove that. That is complete horseshit. The vaccinated contract and spread just like the unvaccinated.
 

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Absolutely no way for you to prove that. That is complete horseshit. The vaccinated contract and spread just like the unvaccinated.
This is a key difference:

The documents were obtained by The Washington Post. As they note, COVID-19 vaccines are still highly effective against the delta variant at preventing serious illness and death.
 

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Oh they have a test for Covid, and the Corona Virus, not Delta.


There is a way to test for the Delta Variant. It's in your article. Genomic sequencing.

How do you test for the delta variant?​

To detect the delta variant, a specific type of COVID-19 test is required — genomic sequencing.
Genomic sequencing decodes the coronavirus' complete set of genes and searches for new mutations. It also matches known variants.
 
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There is a way to test for the Delta Variant. It's in your article. Genomic sequencing.

How do you test for the delta variant?​

To detect the delta variant, a specific type of COVID-19 test is required — genomic sequencing.
Genomic sequencing decodes the coronavirus' complete set of genes and searches for new mutations. It also matches known variants.
Yes...which requires days and laboratories. There is no way in Hell that the vast majority of the Delta Variant diagnosis have gone through a lab. So...what do YOU think they are doing? Guessing...scaring...follow the science right?
Follow the fear. Scare tactics.
 

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And what is the end result of the hospitalizations? What are differences as far as mortality rates or serious complications?
 
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And what is the end result of the hospitalizations? What are differences as far as mortality rates or serious complications?

I think the greater question is, what is the end result of this great push for mandatory vaccination? I think we are seeing that. Greater infections in both vaccinated, and unvaccinated groups.
However, and MOST importantly what is the impact on those who CANNOT be vaccinated? Wasn't that the great call in the past for EVERYONE to be vaccinated? "Think about those who can't"
Well, what about those groups? We were supposed to be given a 'vaccine' that would prevent this.
YET, drugs like Ivermectin were completely disregarded, shunned, people banned for uttering their name.

THIS IS A FUCKING SCAM.
 

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At least 125,000 fully vaccinated Americans have tested positive for Covid and 1,400 of those have died, according to data collected by NBC News.​
The 125,682 "breakthrough" cases in 38 states found by NBC News represent less than .08 percent of the 164.2 million-plus people who have been fully vaccinated since January, or about one in every 1,300. The number of cases and deaths among the vaccinated is very small compared to the number among the unvaccinated. A former Biden adviser on Covid estimated that 98 to 99 percent of deaths are among the unvaccinated.​


As usual, people don't understand math. Or science.

The mRNA vaccines are ~95% effective. That means ~5% of the population who are vaccinated can still get the virus. That's compared to 100% of the unvaccinated who can get the virus.

I know math is hard, but

5% < 100%
100% of the people who don't get the vaccine CAN NOT get the virus. There is always a segment of the population that demonstrates immunity or something close to most viral infections. In fact, I am sure less than 95% of the unvaccinated could get the virus. The vaccinated to boot are also testing positive for the virus and spreading the virus.
 

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I think the greater question is, what is the end result of this great push for mandatory vaccination? I think we are seeing that. Greater infections in both vaccinated, and unvaccinated groups.
However, and MOST importantly what is the impact on those who CANNOT be vaccinated? Wasn't that the great call in the past for EVERYONE to be vaccinated? "Think about those who can't"
Well, what about those groups? We were supposed to be given a 'vaccine' that would prevent this.
YET, drugs like Ivermectin were completely disregarded, shunned, people banned for uttering their name.

THIS IS A FUCKING SCAM.
The only scammers around here are right-wingers.
 

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100% of the people who don't get the vaccine CAN NOT get the virus. There is always a segment of the population that demonstrates immunity or something close to most viral infections. In fact, I am sure less than 95% of the unvaccinated could get the virus. The vaccinated to boot are also testing positive for the virus and spreading the virus.
Have any links? All the studies I have read make your statement just right-wing fantasy not any form of "gospel Truth".
 

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