Frozen Wind Farms Are Just a Small Piece of Texas’s Power Woes

Put a half inch of ice on any power system and it will go down. It's that simple.
It is not that simple. Cold can freeze natural gas pipelines unless they are protected from the cold.
It must be the instrumentation or valves or something on the pipeline that freezes. I don't understand how a natural gas pipeline can freeze at 20F.

Can you explain it, or does anyone else know? It's certainly not the methane freezing. Methane turns to liquid at about -300F.
 
Bloomberg:

""Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re Not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

While ice has forced some turbines to shut down just as a brutal cold wave drives record electricity demand, that’s been the Least significant factor in the blackouts, according to Dan Woodfin, a senior director for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which operates the state’s power grid."...."

Nice paywall, asshole.

What nonsense. You don’t know anything about how to maintain a large power grid. When those windmills and solar stop working entirely, it puts an immediate strain on the other generation sites. The BES is down power generation and makes balancing even more difficult. Couple that with a huge uncommon demand makes balancing that much more difficult. It isn’t just about the power output, it’s about balance. Then throw in the weather causing damage to power lines, causing more strain and spikes in the BES. One failure in the BES can lead to a domino effect.

You are the one swho has no clue what you are talking about. Thde reason why the power grid failed is because the natural gas in the pipoelines were frozen. A nuclear power plant shut down because of the cold. There was no strain on the system.
Yes, they use natural gas which froze over completely. Another “net zero carbon” green energy source.

All you have to do is weatherize it. It is not rocket science.
 
Natural gas frreezes in the pipelines and you blame it on wind. The Texas energy grid is run by the state of Texas. Their refusal to weatherize the energy grid so it can run even when the weather turns extremely cold is the reason for the fzailure of the power grid.
There is no way that methane froze in the pipelines. It turns to liquid at -300F.
 
Bloomberg:

""Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re Not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

While ice has forced some turbines to shut down just as a brutal cold wave drives record electricity demand, that’s been the Least significant factor in the blackouts, according to Dan Woodfin, a senior director for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which operates the state’s power grid."...."

That is a BS lie by global warming nuts....Texas would not be in the news for power outages if not for renewable subsidies that replaced their existing power supply with wind and solar farms...so the people of America in part paid for Texas to have an unreliable power grid....CA is right in there with them....

Only 10% of Texas' electricity comes from Green Energy you lying weasel. Abbott even admits it. I suppose he is lying.

Honey, he's a Republican! It's to be expected! They are the epitome of that old joke/adage, "how do I know you're lying? Your lips are moving!" ALL you have to do is go to the head liar in Congress, McConnell saying "Trump was responsible for Jan. 6th, but we can't actually punish him!" :smartass:

Liberals same way. If they're talking they're lying.
49 out of 50 states winterize their power sources. Guess what state does not, TEXAS. They saved a little and cost a lot. Those who make excuses for the inept leadership in Texas are beyond disgusting.

 
Texas should be ashamed. Pure stupidity...

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Wow, Lakota.

I finally saw another post from you that I like. Great!

I am rarely a fan of more big government, but the deregulated markets are a real mess in the US.

The regulated markets tend to have better consumer protection, while still providing reasonable profits to energy companies.

The Fed needs to be involved in certain endeavors. Energy supply is one. Otherwise, we'll end up buying nuke plants from China some day.

Other examples are defense, interstate travel and commerce, foreign relations, enforcing federal laws, protecting the rights of its citizens, enforcing borders, treasury, etc.
 
Bloomberg:

""Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re Not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

While ice has forced some turbines to shut down just as a brutal cold wave drives record electricity demand, that’s been the Least significant factor in the blackouts, according to Dan Woodfin, a senior director for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which operates the state’s power grid."...."

Screw Bloomberg.
He's nothing but a Democrap propagandist.

Bloomberg is citing fact. Texas only gets 10% of it's electricity from wind. As the Washington Post pointed out, Greenland gets it's electricity from wind and despite the cold climate, they have no problems. The cold shut down natural gas lines and forced a shutdown of 1 nuclear reactor. That has nothing to do with green energy. Abbott and other Texas Republicans are lying when they try to blame it on green energy. Aince you are a lying propagandist, it is not surprising you support Republican lies. Republicans are responsible for the failure of the power grid in Texas.
Cold can't shut down natural gas lines you fucking twat.
Natural gas is transported at extremely low temperatures. It doesn't freeze till it gets below -297 degrees.
 
More ignorance and lies from Tucker...

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Yep they get that shit pretty much every year, the systems are designed for those conditions. This is a 100 year event here.
But wait...when you were stupidly attacking renewable energy...you fuckers were saying "It's been cold here before and the system worked".

Your argument seems to shift by the moment.

Face it. Your GOP assholes cheaped out...fucked up...and people are dying


We weren't as reliant on renewables then. Like I said, all the subsidies and tax breaks are directed at renewables now, that kills the profitability of sustainables. EROCT require transmission companies to buy from the generation company the sells the cheapest power in 5 minute windows. On good days when the wind is blowing and the sun is shining, the sustainables can't compete and get no revenue. That has to change.

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Bullshit, Texas. Your grid was not stress tested as the national grid requires. It was Texas not wanting government regulations and the cost that comes with them. You are paying the cost of building a grid on the cheap.
How has that worked for you.


So far so good. You can keep your federal bullshit.

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Bloomberg:

""Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re Not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

While ice has forced some turbines to shut down just as a brutal cold wave drives record electricity demand, that’s been the Least significant factor in the blackouts, according to Dan Woodfin, a senior director for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which operates the state’s power grid."...."

That is a BS lie by global warming nuts....Texas would not be in the news for power outages if not for renewable subsidies that replaced their existing power supply with wind and solar farms...so the people of America in part paid for Texas to have an unreliable power grid....CA is right in there with them....

Only 10% of Texas' electricity comes from Green Energy you lying weasel. Abbott even admits it. I suppose he is lying.

Honey, he's a Republican! It's to be expected! They are the epitome of that old joke/adage, "how do I know you're lying? Your lips are moving!" ALL you have to do is go to the head liar in Congress, McConnell saying "Trump was responsible for Jan. 6th, but we can't actually punish him!" :smartass:
Then it should be easy for you to point out the lies you are speaking of....right moron?....I'll wait....
 
Bloomberg:

""Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re Not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

While ice has forced some turbines to shut down just as a brutal cold wave drives record electricity demand, that’s been the Least significant factor in the blackouts, according to Dan Woodfin, a senior director for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which operates the state’s power grid."...."

The green energy faggots at ercot are the cause of it.
 
Bloomberg:

""Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re Not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

While ice has forced some turbines to shut down just as a brutal cold wave drives record electricity demand, that’s been the Least significant factor in the blackouts, according to Dan Woodfin, a senior director for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which operates the state’s power grid."...."

Nice paywall, asshole.

What nonsense. You don’t know anything about how to maintain a large power grid. When those windmills and solar stop working entirely, it puts an immediate strain on the other generation sites. The BES is down power generation and makes balancing even more difficult. Couple that with a huge uncommon demand makes balancing that much more difficult. It isn’t just about the power output, it’s about balance. Then throw in the weather causing damage to power lines, causing more strain and spikes in the BES. One failure in the BES can lead to a domino effect.

If their Republican leadership had been willing to accept Federal Regulation, their power systems would be integrated with the rest of the country and they'd be supplied with power from outside Texas.

It wouldn't have mattered if parts of their systems failed or went 'Out of Balance'.
LOL you’re a moron. As I stated, the power generation isn’t usually the problem. You have zero comprehension of how it works if you can say something as stupid as “it wouldn’t matter” if parts fail or go out of balance. Why do you think the agencies that run power grids are called a “Balancing Authority”? If the balance is lost, the power goes out, and yes that can happen when there is too much power just as easily if there isn’t enough. The local outages due to damage cannot be solved by dumping more power, it can only be fixed when the local lines and transformers are fixed.

So you're saying that it's not the wind mills? It's the lines and transformers?

Funny how so many lines and tranformers don't go bad when sub-zero temperatures happen up north!

Funny how there aren't massive amounts of electrical workers from ohther states moving into Texas to help fix those lines and transformers....

Maybe it as something to do with Texas power systems isolation policies.


Put a half inch of ice on any power system and it will go down. It's that simple.

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A half inch of ice is common up North

If what you said was true the Northern half of the country would have downed power constantly.

Somehow our power systems can stand up to it.



Oregon is having big power problems, what's their excuse?

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More ignorance and lies from Tucker...

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Build them all in Progressive Blue areas for now. And start in Nantucket, near Obama's property, and in deep Prog blue rich people's areas. You are jumping on Texas because it is more often then not, a red state. They can upgrade these things that are their fault.
 
Bloomberg:

""Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re Not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

While ice has forced some turbines to shut down just as a brutal cold wave drives record electricity demand, that’s been the Least significant factor in the blackouts, according to Dan Woodfin, a senior director for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which operates the state’s power grid."...."

Nice paywall, asshole.

What nonsense. You don’t know anything about how to maintain a large power grid. When those windmills and solar stop working entirely, it puts an immediate strain on the other generation sites. The BES is down power generation and makes balancing even more difficult. Couple that with a huge uncommon demand makes balancing that much more difficult. It isn’t just about the power output, it’s about balance. Then throw in the weather causing damage to power lines, causing more strain and spikes in the BES. One failure in the BES can lead to a domino effect.

If their Republican leadership had been willing to accept Federal Regulation, their power systems would be integrated with the rest of the country and they'd be supplied with power from outside Texas.

It wouldn't have mattered if parts of their systems failed or went 'Out of Balance'.
LOL you’re a moron. As I stated, the power generation isn’t usually the problem. You have zero comprehension of how it works if you can say something as stupid as “it wouldn’t matter” if parts fail or go out of balance. Why do you think the agencies that run power grids are called a “Balancing Authority”? If the balance is lost, the power goes out, and yes that can happen when there is too much power just as easily if there isn’t enough. The local outages due to damage cannot be solved by dumping more power, it can only be fixed when the local lines and transformers are fixed.

So you're saying that it's not the wind mills? It's the lines and transformers?

Funny how so many lines and tranformers don't go bad when sub-zero temperatures happen up north!

Funny how there aren't massive amounts of electrical workers from ohther states moving into Texas to help fix those lines and transformers....

Maybe it as something to do with Texas power systems isolation policies.


Put a half inch of ice on any power system and it will go down. It's that simple.

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A half inch of ice is common up North

If what you said was true the Northern half of the country would have downed power constantly.

Somehow our power systems can stand up to it.



Oregon is having big power problems, what's their excuse?

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Trump.
 
D'ya think that Texans believe in Climate Change now?

'Cause, guess what! THEIR CLIMATE SURE HAS CHANGED!

Looks like the whole state is turning BLUE!!!!


It's been this cold before, and it'll be this cold again. It's called weather not climate.

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Sometimes you sound sooo DUMB!

cli·mate
/ˈklīmit/

noun
the weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period.


So what's happened in TX is just weather according to your definition, and mine BTW. Freezing temps will be gone tomorrow.

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Natural gas frreezes in the pipelines and you blame it on wind. The Texas energy grid is run by the state of Texas. Their refusal to weatherize the energy grid so it can run even when the weather turns extremely cold is the reason for the fzailure of the power grid.
There is no way that methane froze in the pipelines. It turns to liquid at -300F.

The reason for the drop-off in energy supplies was natural gas. The pipelines were unable to deliver natural gas because of the cold.
 

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