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Guy loses his mind, kills 4 people.

So why don't we provide free government sponsored mental health care to mentally ill gun enthusiasts.

If the psychiatrist says they're too crazy for guns, they don't get to have access to guns anymore.

This would be a small group of people. The decision of the psychiatrist can be appealed.

What do you think?

It's already part of federal gun laws that those adjudicated to be mentally ill are prohibited from owning guns

 

[Otis Mayfield]

It's already part of federal gun laws that those adjudicated to be mentally ill are prohibited from owning guns

That's true.

The only thing I would add is that parents, school or place of work could report you to police. The police would look into it and see if there was evidence that you were crazy. If the cops think you're crazy too, they could put you in the program where you receive free mental health care.

It could even be that the psychiatrist says that you can get your guns back as long as you agree to take your meds.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

lol

If you're crazy, and you say crazy things, who cares?

If you're crazy, take your gun and kill tattooists, that's a problem.

Otis here is a product of progressive indoctrination, because he doesnt believe a baby should be protected inside or outside the womb, then he wonders why some progressive people go out and murder others. It all starts with the definition of "The Sanctity of Life". Too many people dont give a shit about life, which is why they murder others...

 

[M14 Shooter]

If the psychiatrist says they're too crazy for guns, they don't get to have access to guns anymore.
This would be a small group of people. The decision of the psychiatrist can be appealed.
What do you think?

Due process requires the state take their case to a court before a right can be removed.
You propose exactly the opposite.
So... no.

 

[westwall]

Why are our civil rights sarcastic to you?

Because he's a fascist.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The mental illness is conservativism, not being a gun enthusiast.

Says the known liar.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

In December 2016, The Social Security Administration finalized President Barack Obama’s rule that required the SSA to identify and report to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) individuals unable to work because of severe mental impairment and can't manage their own Social Security financial benefits. The thought was that those certain Social Security recipients could pose a danger to themselves or others and should not be able to buy guns.

This regulation was first proposed in the summer of 2015 and finalized it in December 2016, Obama's last full month in office.

On February 28, 2017, within two months of taking office, Trump repealed that restriction. It was one of the few times he didn’t have the media in the Oval Office so after signing something he could hold it up for all to see.

This was done quietly.

Earlier in February, the GOP led House had also voted to reverses the SSA rule on reporting possibly dangerous individuals to NICS that had been signed by George W. Bush after the Virginia Tech massacre to ensure that individuals who are deemed unqualified to possess guns due to mental health or other reasons could be easily identified through NICS.

Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney did his job in removing any responsibility from the president’s rhetoric.
We need to figure out how to kind of create less of those kinds of people as a society and not trying to figure out who gets blamed going into the next election.”

"There's no benefit here to trying to make this a political issue. This is a social issue."

Mulvaney called the shooters "crazy people" who "should not be able to get guns. Sick people who are intent on doing things like this should not be able to buy guns legally."

 

[M14 Shooter]

In December 2016, The Social Security Administration finalized President Barack Obama’s rule that required the SSA to identify and report to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) individuals unable to work because of severe mental impairment and can't manage their own Social Security financial benefits. The thought was that those certain Social Security recipients could pose a danger to themselves or others and should not be able to buy guns.

Yes. And this violates the constitution in several ways.
Thus, Trump rightfully threw it out.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Yes. And this violates the constitution in several ways.
Thus, Trump rightfully threw it out.

No, it doesn't.
Not even once.
How does it violate the constitution?

 

[M14 Shooter]

No, it doesn't.
Not even once.

Glad to see you aren't afraid to put your ignorance on display, yet again.

How does it violate the constitution?

5th Amendment - due process.

 

[M14 Shooter]

No, it doesn't.
Not even once.
How does it violate the constitution?

Speaking of your ignorance...
Still warting for your response:

My annual report on the 'assault weapon' scourge

Yes, I did, moron. ^^^^ This is a lie. You are fully aware of the fact you cannot cite the post where you made such a demonstration, or copy/paste the text to that effect.

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[Otis Mayfield]

Due process requires the state take their case to a court before a right can be removed.
You propose exactly the opposite.
So... no.

So parents, school, or place of work report the suspect to police.

Police investigate, decide the guy is too crazy to have guns.

Police refer him to the program. If the nutt agrees to go to the program, he receives free mental health care.

If he refuses, a judge can order him to go. (There's your due process.)

It will save tattooists lives.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Glad to see you aren't afraid to put your ignorance on display, yet again.

That would be you, moron.

5th Amendment - due process.

WTF?
You name one and that is wrong.

They had 'due process' with a Social Security judge.

 

[M14 Shooter]

So parents, school, or place of work report the suspect to police.

Your expectedly ignoranrt and dishonest response does nothign to change the fact Obama's order violated the 5th Amendment.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Speaking of your ignorance...
Still warting for your response:

My annual report on the 'assault weapon' scourge

Yes, I did, moron. ^^^^ This is a lie. You are fully aware of the fact you cannot cite the post where you made such a demonstration, or copy/paste the text to that effect.

www.usmessageboard.com

It's been days, you moron.
I'm done arguing with an idiot, about hunting rifles.
Go ahead, hunt with an AR-15 I don't give a fuck.

 

[M14 Shooter]

They had 'due process' with a Social Security judge.

Your expectedly ignoranrt and dishonest response does nothing to change the fact Obama's order violated the 5th Amendment.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It's been days, you moron.
I'm done arguing with an idiot, about hunting rifles.

It has. Because you know you were wrong and hoped no one would notice you running away.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Your expectedly ignoranrt and dishonest response does nothing to change the fact Obama's order violated the 5th Amendment.

AGAIN, you're FOS, as usual.
HOW?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

So parents, school, or place of work report the suspect to police.

Police investigate, decide the guy is too crazy to have guns.

Police refer him to the program. If the nutt agrees to go to the program, he receives free mental health care.

If he refuses, a judge can order him to go. (There's your due process.)

It will save tattooists lives.

FBI: Police were told Sandy Hook shooter threatened to kill mom, students

One person told investigators they overheard Adam Lanza say he "planned to kill his mother and children at Sandy Hook in Newtown, Connecticut"

www.cbsnews.com

The problem you have is that you keep relying on the worthless government to do something, yet both incidents could of been avoided but thanks to the brown turd Obammy, the police couldnt do anything until it was too late.

Federal Obama-era policies helped keep Parkland shooter off police radar and out of jail

Top-down edicts from the feds may have allowed Nikolas Cruz to remain free to commit the atrocities he did.

conventionofstates.com

Thanks Obama...

 

[M14 Shooter]

AGAIN, you're FOS, as usual

^^^^
This is a lie