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r2200t said:Please note: This discussion is for those who know that the war in Iraq is for oil. If you still think that this was about freedom for Iraqis or about all the people saddam killed in the 80's while the US was allies with Iraq..., you shouldn't reply to this msg. We are on different wavelengths.
cheers,
Recent world events have once again focused attention on sources of imported oil. Such events can affect both the prices and availability of crude oil. The U.S. imported 54 percent of its petroleum supply in 2001. Petroleum imports averaged 10.6 million barrels per day (b/d) in 2001 to meet a total U.S. demand of 19.6 million b/d. The balance of supply was from domestic oil production, ss can be seen in the following table. Canada, Saudi Arabia, and Venezuela are the top three sources of oil imports. The average Refiner Acquisition Cost (RAC) of imported crude oil was $22.01. Based on imports of 10.6 million b/d, the total cost of oil imports to the U.S. averaged $233 million per day. Total world crude oil production averaged an estimated 76.8 million b/d in 2001.
During 2001, about 48 percent of U.S. crude oil imports came from the Western Hemisphere (19 percent from South America, 15 percent from Mexico, and 14 percent from Canada), while 30 percent came from the Persian Gulf region (18 percent from Saudi Arabia, 9 percent from Iraq, and 3 percent from Kuwait).
In general, OECD Europe depends far more heavily on the Persian Gulf and North Africa for oil imports than does the U.S. During 2001, about 35 percent of OECD Europe's net oil imports came from the Persian Gulf (mainly Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, and Kuwait), around one-third from Africa (mainly Libya, Algeria, and Nigeria), and much of the remainder from Russia. Japan receives over three-quarters of its oil supplies from the Persian Gulf (mainly the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran, and Qatar), with the remainder coming from Indonesia, China, and other sources.
r2200t said:Again, Russia France and Germany .. does this ring a bell? all 3 were against the war in Iraq. was saddam a weapons client?\
r2200t said:Left? i don' pick sides...i'm picking reality.
I'm open for discussion on the mixed conclusion i reached, i'm looking for help strengthening it with more facts/information.
I've researched enough information from many sides and read things from around the world to know that the war in Iraq is about OIL. And i'd like to have one discussion without this getting in the way. If you want we can discuss the oil issue on a different thread. Having said that, this discussion is about why France wants to prevent the US from having that control of oil (or something similar).. and how media has turned France into a villain. Is it jsutified? Is there something bigger going on? When did the cold war with France start.
r2200t said:Nice Graph, without picking sides, I had a hard time believing it, Since 1973 The US represents only 1% of weapon imports in Iraq? I thought the US was the #1 seller to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War, and Russia was supplying Iran? 1%? it's gotta be more than that! I mean Rummy shook hands with saddam twice for only 1%? So i did some more research and concluded: Rummy is a poor salesman. Most Iraqi weapons are soviet made: migs, AK-47 etc...
r2200t said:Also, the US never seemed to get into the Iraq market as far as weapon sales...So by removing Saddam will the US gain a new weapon client with a pro-US installed president? I'm sure this is something the Russians and France were trying to avoid.
r2200t said:I Completely Agree , it's like a cold economic war. the loser goes into recession and becomes powerless.
Yes "Steady" is the magical word here, steady energy is crucial for economic certainty
Well, this is where my opinion differs from yours, i don't like millitary wars, people die and i don't think it's fair. I'm always for a peacefull solution or a military coup...
What i meant about iraq when i was saying it is about the oil, is that it's not about freedom for Iraqis or much about terrorism. your 3 points come to mind.
Also exporting media to a free Iraq is a huge business in itself. 25 million new customers.
cheers