France is Fucked

[The Infidel]

They plan on voting in a guy who is more leftist than the OWS luntics!

His platform:
(1) Spend more, not just a little but a TON more. He is buying votes by promising to gifts to everyone.
(2) His plan to tackle 10% unemployment. Tax the rich and see them flee the country.
(3) His plan to grow the economy. Raise taxes on businesses and see them leave the country.
(4) His plans to win 10% of the immigrate population (this will sound familiar): Amnesty, protections for illegal, social services to illegal and fairer immigration policies (meaning more legal and illegal immigration)


So his plan is "fix" Frances economy is to tax the rich and business community into leaving the country (remember in Europe with the EU relocation is relatively easy), increase their deficit which is at a critical level 100 fold and head towards Greece's fate and open the boards to Muslim immigration so the leftist will have a voting bloc in the pocket regardless of the fact they despise liberal ideals, France and are overall huge burdens on the welfare state and desire Sharia law in the country.

This scumbag is leading the polls!

They are french... what else would you expect?

And we are looking more and more like them every day

 

[Saigon]

Umm...Before the U.S. entered the war; the whole of Europe was occupied except Britain, who was in the process of being pounded by the Germans. doesn't really say much about the European politicians and their military does it? And we are still their? You idiots can fund your own defense.... Ungrateful bastards

Firstly, no, not all of Continental Europe was occupied by the Nazis. (Off the top of my head: Sweden, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, Turkey and much of Eastern Europe).

Secondly, countries like Belgium, Holland, Poland or Denmark could no more defeat the neighbouring superpower on a battlefield than Hawaii could single handedly defeat Japan. They all fought, but but their defeat was less a failure of politics or military preparation than of geography.

Lastly, all European countries DO, and always have, funded their own defense. Many also assist in the defense of US interests as part of NATO. It's called co-operation.

Why were European armies in Korea, Viet Nam or Iraq?

To protect US interests, not European interests.

 

[tinydancer]

Don't we still owe them for America?

No... They still owe us for saving their asses and liberating them from the NAZIs

I really hate to see this kind of ignorance repeated. It's a sad day when people learn their history for Spielbrg movies.

France was liberated by largely British and Free French forces, with additional troops from Canada, the US, ANZACS and a half dozen other countries such as India.

Saying the US liberated France is like saying New Zealand overthrew Saddam Hussein.

"us" a collective noun. As in Allies. Is your game really grammar?

 

[bripat9643]

Don't we still owe them for America?

No, you dumb fuck.

 

[bripat9643]

Don't we still owe them for America?

No... They still owe us for saving their asses and liberating them from the NAZIs

I really hate to see this kind of ignorance repeated. It's a sad day when people learn their history for Spielbrg movies.

France was liberated by largely British and Free French forces, with additional troops from Canada, the US, ANZACS and a half dozen other countries such as India.

Saying the US liberated France is like saying New Zealand overthrew Saddam Hussein.

You're a moron. Tell us who landed at Normandy.

 

[tinydancer]

(4) His plans to win 10% of the immigrate population (this will sound familiar): Amnesty, protections for illegal, social services to illegal and fairer immigration policies (meaning more legal and illegal immigration)

So in retrospect, would you say France was right or wrong to kill more than one million Algerian people in a colonialist war, thus forcing many Algerian people to leave the country of their birth and move to France?

How much time have you spent in France, by the way?

By and large, would you say it seemed wealthy, or poor?

It's worth keeping in mind that France has a far better health care system than the US will ever have, great schools, a very strong and vibrant culture, and French workers enjoy around triple the holiday time American workers get. So who is better off?

France has the most enviable health care system. Right up with the Swiss.

It's two tiered and it is highly monitored. I've been studying it for years and been pushing my conservative government towards it.

But don't dare try to make it "universal" or pretend it is universal.

Now to the general.
France has been an entitlement culture for decades. They are in deep shit financially. If Hollande wins, the country is toast because the wealthy already have contingency plans to bail.

Hollande used his affair with the top bitch at the top version of their left wing media to perpetuate his "moderation" . Yeah his moderation of only taxing the wealthy 75%. Hollande wins watch a massive run on French banks.

It will be most interesting to watch. The socialist will go down in the anals of history of bringing France to her knees, bitch slapping her to hell and going out in a blaze of left wing bullshit.

 

[tinydancer]

Sorry but no one person planned the invasion it was a joint effort.. Wikipedia?

Yes, exactly it was, and that is exactly my point.

Saying the US liberated France is inaccurate to the point of being insulting.

The UK was the largest single force, and a number of other countries also had large forces involved.

Just a big hint here. Use the term Allies.

Far more accurate.

To attempt to dissect "who did what when" you really can't do that in WWII. We were an alliance.

 

[bripat9643]

The operation, planned by a team under Lieutenant-General Frederick Morgan, was the largest amphibious invasion in world history and was executed by land, sea, and air elements under direct British command with over 160,000[6] troops landing on June 6, 1944. 195,700[7] Allied naval and merchant navy personnel in over 5,000[6] ships were involved.

wikipedia.org/wiki/Normandy_landings]Normandy landings

Of the approx. 160,000 troops involved, some 55,000 were from the US.

And 90% of the material, ships and equipment were American. We also bombed the crap out of Germany on a daily basis. Furthermore, after the initial landing, the U.S. poured millions of troops into the European theater, and we landed troops in southern France.

By the time France was liberated there were far more than 55,000 Americans in Europe.

 

[bripat9643]

I really hate to see this kind of ignorance repeated. It's a sad day when people learn their history for Spielbrg movies.

France was liberated by largely British and Free French forces, with additional troops from Canada, the US, ANZACS and a half dozen other countries such as India.

Saying the US liberated France is like saying New Zealand overthrew Saddam Hussein.

D-day was a U.S. led invasion, we also rebuilt Europe with the Marshall Plan ungrateful idiots

Rebuilding, Marshall Plan, had nothing to do with France, since it wasn't bombed.

Almost every country in Europe received money under the Marshall Plan

 

[HUGGY]

France is Fucked


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You could have knocked me over with a feather!

 

[Saigon]

And 90% of the material, ships and equipment were American. We also bombed the crap out of Germany on a daily basis. Furthermore, after the initial landing, the U.S. poured millions of troops into the Europe

Yes, yes, yes...America saved the world. No one else was involved. It was all America.

America liberated Poland single handedly, poured troops into the Ukraine and was the only country to ever defeat the Soviet Union on the battlefield.

Jesus wept.

btw, it is not 'the' Europe, just 'Europe'.

 

[bripat9643]

And 90% of the material, ships and equipment were American. We also bombed the crap out of Germany on a daily basis. Furthermore, after the initial landing, the U.S. poured millions of troops into the Europe

Yes, yes, yes...America saved the world. No one else was involved. It was all America.

America liberated Poland single handedly, poured troops into the Ukraine and was the only country to ever defeat the Soviet Union on the battlefield.

Jesus wept.

btw, it is not 'the' Europe, just 'Europe'.

Yes, we pretty much did save the world. We provided about 80% of all the material and weapons for prosecuting the war. We provided the Soviets with all of their trucks, much of their air force and much of their raw materials, food and equipment. If it wasn't for U.S. aid, U.S. bombing of Germany, and U.S. invasions in Africa, Italy and France, Germany would have wipe Russia out.

 

[syrenn]

Don't we still owe them for America?

No... They still owe us for saving their asses and liberating them from the NAZIs

They actually owe us three times over saving their asses..... WWI..WWII and Veitmam!

 

[Saigon]

Sorry but no one person planned the invasion it was a joint effort.. Wikipedia?

Yes, exactly it was, and that is exactly my point.

Saying the US liberated France is inaccurate to the point of being insulting.

The UK was the largest single force, and a number of other countries also had large forces involved.

Just a big hint here. Use the term Allies.

Far more accurate.

To attempt to dissect "who did what when" you really can't do that in WWII. We were an alliance.

I couldn't agree more - which is exactly why I picked up on a poster claiming "the US" liberated France.

 

[tinydancer]

Yes, exactly it was, and that is exactly my point.

Saying the US liberated France is inaccurate to the point of being insulting.

The UK was the largest single force, and a number of other countries also had large forces involved.

Just a big hint here. Use the term Allies.

Far more accurate.

To attempt to dissect "who did what when" you really can't do that in WWII. We were an alliance.

I couldn't agree more - which is exactly why I picked up on a poster claiming "the US" liberated France.

One always has to remember how history is written and then taught in schools. Otherwise you are shadow boxing.

 

[theunbubba]

Don't we still owe them for America?

No... They still owe us for saving their asses and liberating them from the NAZIs

I really hate to see this kind of ignorance repeated. It's a sad day when people learn their history for Spielbrg movies.

France was liberated by largely British and Free French forces, with additional troops from Canada, the US, ANZACS and a half dozen other countries such as India.

Saying the US liberated France is like saying New Zealand overthrew Saddam Hussein.

Yeah sure, asshat. Normandy never happened did it? Go fuck your revisionist version of history.

 

[theunbubba]

Yes, exactly it was, and that is exactly my point.

Saying the US liberated France is inaccurate to the point of being insulting.

The UK was the largest single force, and a number of other countries also had large forces involved.

Umm...Before the U.S. entered the war; the whole of Europe was occupied except Britain, who was in the process of being pounded by the Germans. doesn't really say much about the European politicians and their military does it? And we are still their? You idiots can fund your own defense.... Ungrateful bastards

Switzerland was never occupied.

Switzerland never lifted a fucking finger either. So What's your point?

 

[Saigon]

No... They still owe us for saving their asses and liberating them from the NAZIs

I really hate to see this kind of ignorance repeated. It's a sad day when people learn their history for Spielbrg movies.

France was liberated by largely British and Free French forces, with additional troops from Canada, the US, ANZACS and a half dozen other countries such as India.

Saying the US liberated France is like saying New Zealand overthrew Saddam Hussein.

Yeah sure, asshat. Normandy never happened did it? Go fuck your revisionist version of history.

What 'revisionism'? Why would you say Normandy never happened....do you see anyone on this thread suggesting that?

It is simply a fact that the single largest contingent in the D-Day landings were troops from the UK. In all, some 160,000 Allied troops were involved. Of those, around 73,000 were from the US. Of the 7 commanders, 5 were British. Nine countries fought on the Allied side, several others sent volunteers.

Given around 90,000 troops involved in the D-Day landings were not American, it is simply inaccurate to suggest that the US liberated France.

 

[JoeB131]

They plan on voting in a guy who is more leftist than the OWS luntics!

His platform:
(1) Spend more, not just a little but a TON more. He is buying votes by promising to gifts to everyone.
(2) His plan to tackle 10% unemployment. Tax the rich and see them flee the country.
(3) His plan to grow the economy. Raise taxes on businesses and see them leave the country.
(4) His plans to win 10% of the immigrate population (this will sound familiar): Amnesty, protections for illegal, social services to illegal and fairer immigration policies (meaning more legal and illegal immigration)


So his plan is "fix" Frances economy is to tax the rich and business community into leaving the country (remember in Europe with the EU relocation is relatively easy), increase their deficit which is at a critical level 100 fold and head towards Greece's fate and open the boards to Muslim immigration so the leftist will have a voting bloc in the pocket regardless of the fact they despise liberal ideals, France and are overall huge burdens on the welfare state and desire Sharia law in the country.

This scumbag is leading the polls!

So the French have figured out "Trickle down" doesn't?

This ought to be a message to the GOP. If you keep working against the working class, they will turn around and bite you in the ass.

Lesson won't be learned though.

 

[SniperFire]

So the French have figured out "Trickle down" doesn't?

Just like Detroit, Newark, Cleveland, California, etc.