Former Pentagon Chief-of-Staff Kash Patel Says Trump Declassifyied Documents

[Billy_Bob]

The president has the authority, but like all presidential powers, he has to enact them in an official manner. Such as the supreme court already ruled that pardons have to be put in writing, and do not become official until they are delivered to the person being pardoned.

The same that executive orders have to be set on paper, and signed by the president.

So the president has the power to classify or declassify anything in his relm, it doesn't officialy become so, until it is properly marked.

After all, someone taking a diet coke can from the presidents desk would be unaware if Trump classified it top secret, and throw it in the unclassified garbage.

Wrong... HIs verbal order is all that is required... Keep spinning..

 

[Billy_Bob]

The three statutes mentioned in the warrant do not depend on whether the docs in question were classified or not.

And there is serious questions as to whether a President can "declassify" nuclear information. That is not something that can be made public and "declassifying" it makes it public

Yes they do. Absent the classification there can be no crime. Sorry Charlie..

 

[BS Filter]

Why didn't Trump give ALL the documents the 1st time?

Because he didn't want to.

 

[toobfreak]

A list of documents the FBI gathered from Trump’s Florida home,

It would take a week or more to go through 15 boxes full of documents figuring out the classification status of each one of them, not two days. Someone is BSing you.

reported that some of the documents collected were marked “Various classified/TS/SCI documents” ― an acronym for “top-secret” and “sensitive compartmented information” that indicates one of the highest levels of government classification.

I have a list around here somewhere with all the classifications and there is no top secret, and neither that you mention above is anywhere near the top. In fact, the president is not even cleared to even SEE or KNOW ABOUT the most sensitive stuff we have.

Your chain has been yanked again.

 

[meaner gene]

Because he didn't have too... Just like the 30,000 documents Obama kept.. Are we going to do a raid on him next?

Obama sent those documents to his soon to be presidential library. They were the unclassified product of his 8 years in office, and as the presidential records act dictates, aren't subject to PRA disclosure until 5 years after he leaves office.

Access to Presidential Records | Digital Media Law Project

www.dmlp.org

the Presidential Records Act makes presidential records available to the public five years after the President leaves office. The Presidential Records Act established that presidents do not own their White House records as personal property but rather the U.S. Government has "ownership, possession and control" over the records. The Archivist of the United States has "an affirmative duty to make such records available to the public" through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) no later than five years after the President leaves office.

 

[cnm]

Because he didn't want to.

Ah ha, criminal intent.

 

[1srelluc]

The three statutes mentioned in the warrant do not depend on whether the docs in question were classified or not.

And there is serious questions as to whether a President can "declassify" nuclear information. That is not something that can be made public and "declassifying" it makes it public

Perhaps you should have researched that part before running your ignorant yap.

A POTUS can classify and declassify at will.

As it pertains to Trump the minute he told someone about it (the standing order) he had the ability to declassify anything at any time without any process what so ever. The order did not even have to be in writing.

 

[BS Filter]

Ah ha, criminal intent.

Prove it. What's Trump gonna be charged with?

 

[BackAgain]

Why didn't Trump give ALL the documents the 1st time?

Irrelevant.

 

[meaner gene]

Wrong... HIs verbal order is all that is required... Keep spinning..

It is all that is required, BUT, such an order doesn't take effect until the documents are actually marked as such.

It's like a birth certificate. It's not official until delivered to the bureau of vital statistics. Electoral college votes aren't official until delivered to congress, with one pair of certificates is sent to the president of the Senate; two pairs are sent to the Archivist; two pairs are sent via registered mail to the state's secretary of state; and one pair is sent to the chief judge of the closest United States district court.

 

[BackAgain]

Presidential records act. Not a criminal act.

Espionage act. Not of interest for declassified documents.

What else do the libtarded Democraps and the DOJ have?

 

[theHawk]

A list of documents the FBI gathered from Trump’s Florida home, reported that some of the documents collected were marked “Various classified/TS/SCI documents” ― an acronym for “top-secret” and “sensitive compartmented information” that indicates one of the highest levels of government classification.
The Espionage Act was established in 1917 to prohibit anyone from obtaining defense information with the possible intent of using it against the U.S. or to further the interests of a foreign country.

What possible reason could Trump have for taking and refusing to return these docs?

Because they were declassified, idiot.

This is all way above your head. You’ve never dealt with classified material or held a security clearance, so you should sit in the corner and stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[cnm]

Who'd have thought?

He noted that Trump and White House officials should have been aware that more would be needed to declassify documents given their own experience on the issue. In October 2020, Trump tweeted, “I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax. Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions!”​

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When news organizations sought to obtain the supposedly declassified documents, they were told they were still under wraps. Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows said in a sworn court filing in the case, “The president indicated to me that his statements on Twitter were not self-executing declassification orders and do not require the declassification or release of any particular documents.”​

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Trump allies say he declassified Mar-a-Lago documents seized by FBI. Experts are skeptical.

Legal experts say presidents have absolute authority to declassify documents, but it's not clear whether Trump ever took action to do so.

www.nbcnews.com

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[Billy_Bob]

It is all that is required, BUT, such an order doesn't take effect until the documents are actually marked as such.

It's like a birth certificate. It's not official until delivered to the bureau of vital statistics. Electoral college votes aren't official until delivered to congress, with one pair of certificates is sent to the president of the Senate; two pairs are sent to the Archivist; two pairs are sent via registered mail to the state's secretary of state; and one pair is sent to the chief judge of the closest United States district court.

Wrong.. HIs verbal order is all that is required..

 

[cnm]

Prove it. What's Trump gonna be charged with?

Possibly...

removing or destroying records and obstructing an investigation.​

 

[meaner gene]

Perhaps you should have researched that part before running your ignorant yap.

A POTUS can classify and declassify at will.

As it pertains to Trump the minute he told someone about it (the standing order) he had the ability to declassify anything at any time without any process what so ever. The order did not even have to be in writing.

You're only half right. A presidential order given verbally, doesn't become official until there is an official record of it.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Who'd have thought?

He noted that Trump and White House officials should have been aware that more would be needed to declassify documents given their own experience on the issue. In October 2020, Trump tweeted, “I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax. Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions!”​

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When news organizations sought to obtain the supposedly declassified documents, they were told they were still under wraps. Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows said in a sworn court filing in the case, “The president indicated to me that his statements on Twitter were not self-executing declassification orders and do not require the declassification or release of any particular documents.”​

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Trump allies say he declassified Mar-a-Lago documents seized by FBI. Experts are skeptical.

Legal experts say presidents have absolute authority to declassify documents, but it's not clear whether Trump ever took action to do so.

www.nbcnews.com

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Trump had a standing declassification order.. You will not win this argument...

 

[cnm]

Moss said one of the laws that prosecutors could theoretically bring to bear against Trump is 18 U.S. Code § 793 — "Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information."​

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The law penalizes "Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book ... or note relating to the national defense" who "through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed." It also penalizes someone who "willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it."​

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Trump allies say he declassified Mar-a-Lago documents seized by FBI. Experts are skeptical.

Legal experts say presidents have absolute authority to declassify documents, but it's not clear whether Trump ever took action to do so.

www.nbcnews.com

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[Billy_Bob]

Presidential records act. Not a criminal act.

Espionage act. Not of interest for declassified documents.

What else do the libtarded Democraps and the DOJ have?

Nothing...

 

[Billy_Bob]

Moss said one of the laws that prosecutors could theoretically bring to bear against Trump is 18 U.S. Code § 793 — "Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information."​

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The law penalizes "Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book ... or note relating to the national defense" who "through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed." It also penalizes someone who "willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it."​

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Trump allies say he declassified Mar-a-Lago documents seized by FBI. Experts are skeptical.

Legal experts say presidents have absolute authority to declassify documents, but it's not clear whether Trump ever took action to do so.

www.nbcnews.com

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You got Nothing.... NO classification no crime... Trumps written standing order lays your fantasies waste..