Fordow 'deep' dive

[Toddsterpatriot]

So now you think that 30 Iranians each carried a 70 pound box in their arms across the desert to save their highly enriched uranium?

They walked the box to their car. Duh

 

[Delldude]

They walked the box to their car. Duh

So our intel is full of shit?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So our intel is full of shit?

Was our intel searching every box that left in every car?

 

[toobfreak]

They walked the box to their car. Duh

You do realize the uranium is in a high-temp gaseous state during enrichment and does not return to a solid again until ready to form into its final U-235 pellets?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You do realize the uranium is in a high-temp gaseous state during enrichment and does not return to a solid again until ready to form into its final U-235 pellets?

It's not that hot during diffusion. It's a solid at room temperature.
You realize they can convert it to uranium oxide to move it around, right?

 

[Delldude]

Was our intel searching every box that left in every car?

You tell me.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You tell me.

That would have required boots on the ground, so I'll say no.

 

[toobfreak]

It's not that hot during diffusion. It's a solid at room temperature.
You realize they can convert it to uranium oxide to move it around, right?

Well, sure, anything can be done given the opportunity, the question is, did they have the opportunity? Trump caught them pretty short. Worse, someone who impressed me as someone who knew what they were talking about seemed pretty sure that Fordow was if anything, the place they were looking to move fuel TO, not out of, thinking it best protected and safest there, and the recent cement caps reinforcing their ventilator shafts there seems to support that.

 

[Delldude]

That would have required boots on the ground, so I'll say no.

There were.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Well, sure, anything can be done given the opportunity, the question is, did they have the opportunity? Trump caught them pretty short. Worse, someone who impressed me as someone who knew what they were talking about seemed pretty sure that Fordow was if anything, the place they were looking to move fuel TO, not out of, thinking it best protected and safest there, and the recent cement caps reinforcing their ventilator shafts there seems to support that.

I'd be surprised if they moved it.
My point is, you don't need million-dollar containers to move it.
It's probably still all there, at the bottom of all that debris and will
take many years to dig it out.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There were.

Inspecting every box in every car? Link?

 

[Delldude]

Inspecting every box in every car? Link?

Still doubtful of US and IDF Intel, eh?

I'd be surprised if they moved it.

So then why all the horseshit?

 

[Leo123]

Hey, I found a photo of one of those Uranium hauling vehicles!!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Still doubtful of US and IDF Intel, eh?


So then why all the horseshit?

Yes, I doubt the US and Israel inspected every box.

My point is, you don't need million-dollar containers to move it.

 

[toobfreak]

Inspecting every box in every car? Link?

From the little I know of intel, let me say this:

• Places like Fordow are watched closely around the clock from the day of their inception and scrutinized down to the size of a postage stamp from outer space by experts whose entire lives and careers are focused on scrutinizing Iran. They look at patterns of activity both past and present and can interpret pretty much what goes on there, the normal from the abnormal, what they are doing and why, and I feel confident they know what was going on there and how hard they hit it, and I would hope know more than what they can say.
• Whatever else is the case, Iran's nuclear processing plans have been set back by years.

 

[toobfreak]

Hey, I found a photo of one of those Uranium hauling vehicles!!

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I know him, he's this guy's uncle, right?

 

[Leo123]

From the little I know of intel, let me say this:

• Places like Fordow are watched closely around the clock from the day of their inception and scrutinized down to the size of a postage stamp from outer space by experts whose entire lives and careers are focused on scrutinizing Iran. They look at patterns of activity both past and present and can interpret pretty much what goes on there, the normal from the abnormal, what they are doing and why, and I feel confident they know what was going on there and how hard they hit it, and I would hope know more than what they can say.
• Whatever else is the case, Iran's nuclear processing plans have been set back by years.

Reports are that the pilots have been training on this mission for a number of years. At the same time, Fordow was being surveyed from Space, drones, Israeli intel and all kinds of informants. I think we (America) knew everything there was to know about Fordow and Iran's enrichment program. Heck, we even blew up the scientists working on the nuke-bomb program.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

From the little I know of intel, let me say this:

• Places like Fordow are watched closely around the clock from the day of their inception and scrutinized down to the size of a postage stamp from outer space by experts whose entire lives and careers are focused on scrutinizing Iran. They look at patterns of activity both past and present and can interpret pretty much what goes on there, the normal from the abnormal, what they are doing and why, and I feel confident they know what was going on there and how hard they hit it, and I would hope know more than what they can say.
• Whatever else is the case, Iran's nuclear processing plans have been set back by years.

Places like Fordow are watched closely around the clock from the day of their inception and scrutinized down to the size of a postage stamp from outer space by experts whose entire lives and careers are focused on scrutinizing Iran.

No doubt, which still doesn't tell you if a 60-pound box is in the trunk of a car and if it contains paperwork or some uranium.

 

[Delldude]

Places like Fordow are watched closely around the clock from the day of their inception and scrutinized down to the size of a postage stamp from outer space by experts whose entire lives and careers are focused on scrutinizing Iran.

No doubt, which still doesn't tell you if a 60-pound box is in the trunk of a car and if it contains paperwork or some uranium.

LoL...... pretzel logic dude.

But they may have missed 400-900 kilos of Iranium spirited out in beer cases.

 

[toobfreak]

Reports are that the pilots have been training on this mission for a number of years.

That is my understanding. We have teams of people who analyze every threat to America and ask themselves: "How do I kill it?" They designed and built the GBU-57 from the ground up just for killing targets like this. They spend years planning for every scenario and being prepared for it. When Trump says that this was literally the most ambitious and daunting military mission in the history of the country, I have to seriously consider it!

Think about it:

1. They flew nonstop around the world on a moment's notice refueling many times along the way.
2. They had to navigate a course over friendly territory getting permission to fly there while avoiding enemy territory.
3. They arrived undetected. No one even knew they were there.
4. They offered no defense against us.
5. Our bombs precisely hit their target and nothing else.
6. We destroyed a facility that was designed to be impregnable.