For 8 years the right has been called racist.

[rightwinger]

Only some Republicans are racists...the rest are just assholes

I always enjoy when Republicans show how great their party was.......150 years ago

No. It shows how bad your party was and still is.

Bad?

Seems every minority group wants nothing to do with the once grand, now only old party

 

[Timmy]

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Even USMB seems to be aware of the derogatory nature of the N-word lol. Never had a program prove my point.

Yet JayZ used it IN the White House, about Obama to his face.

Yet you Brown Shirts thought that was fine, since it was a good party member who did it.

He's a rapper . Using "gga" which is different that "gger" . And he's black .

Like country music singing about "rednecks" or "white trash " .

Rednecks are rednecks just like a ****** is a ******. Only cowards are afraid to use the terms where appropriate. Hell you wont even spell it out you're such a pc coward. You're likely one of those idiots that see the term ****** or redneck as a descriptive of color. Many do. To me it defines an attitude or a celebration of a degraded culture. Color is not mutually exclusive to either.

Oh you're so brave throwing around racial slurs anonymously online.

It's not being a coward it's called having some class. I'm sure you're just like Donald Trump running around calling women The c word it all the time.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

[

Even USMB seems to be aware of the derogatory nature of the N-word lol. Never had a program prove my point.

Yet JayZ used it IN the White House, about Obama to his face.

Yet you Brown Shirts thought that was fine, since it was a good party member who did it.

He's a rapper . Using "gga" which is different that "gger" . And he's black .

Like country music singing about "rednecks" or "white trash " .

Rednecks are rednecks just like a ****** is a ******. Only cowards are afraid to use the terms where appropriate. Hell you wont even spell it out you're such a pc coward. You're likely one of those idiots that see the term ****** or redneck as a descriptive of color. Many do. To me it defines an attitude or a celebration of a degraded culture. Color is not mutually exclusive to either.

Oh you're so brave throwing around racial slurs anonymously online.

It's not being a coward it's called having some class. I'm sure you're just like Donald Trump running around calling women The c word it all the time.

If they act a certain way I speak my mind. Always have & always will

 

[TheOldSchool]

Anybody pointed out yet that for 8 years the right said the only reason Obama was elected is because he's black?

 

[Timmy]

Anybody pointed out yet that for 8 years the right said the only reason Obama was elected is because he's black?

And when he started and was popular they cons went out of their way to say he's 1/2 white .

 

[TheOldSchool]

Anybody pointed out yet that for 8 years the right said the only reason Obama was elected is because he's black?

And when he started and was popular they cons went out of their way to say he's 1/2 white .

And then in desperation they began calling him a Muslim to stir more hatred against him.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Now if Hillary is elected that meme will change to sexist.
Liberals just can't fathom that people vehemently disagree with their positions. Their tunnel vision blinds them completely to the fact that their train of thought is but one narrow view of the world.

can you fathom that at least some of thr opposition to obama and driving force behind the 'tea party' was racism?

The tea party is more of a difference in the ideological role of government. Can you comprehend the difference between clear racial statements, from those who demonstrate and protest a different political view of our government? Do you have any links to actual statements that are made from those leaders of the tea party movement, that show nothing else but a clear racial hatred statement towards the president?

you aren't really asking for this, are you?

I am questioning your ability to be able to comprehend the difference. No spin of explanation to try and create a racial atmosphere, a clear racial slur and hateful racial statement from the leaders in charge of the tea party movement. You see a democrat supporter can quite easily create a sentiment of racism by creating a sign and infiltrating in the middle a tea party movement for a photo op (and don't tell me the democrats wouldn't dream of such an attempt to justify THEIR cause). I want a clear racial statement and slur that is without question and can't be disproven

www.msnbc.com/msnbc/tea-party-fail/

O.C. Tea Partier Sends Racist Obama Email

newsone.com/756875/tea-partys-carl-paladino-who-sent-racist-emails-wins-n-y-gop-gov-nomination/

Tea Party Express spokesman resigns after racist blog post

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1600376


and theb there's all the science that shows the rank and file tea party supporter is more likely to harbor racial animus

Are Tea Partiers racists?

Reading the articles, you have a board member who was forced to resign by the Tea Party, and Williams who's only position is in a radio talk show. I fail to see where the endorsement of racism is "supported and encouraged" by the Tea Party. Forcing an individual to resign and no longer allowed to associate is a far cry from encouraging racism within their movement. Does racism exist? Within republicans AND democrats absolutely 100% I believe that to be true. Is such racism tolerated? By your posts they absolutely did not.

If I was to paint the picture that the discovery of those individuals who were forced to resign as somehow an endorsement to racism under the Tea Party Movement, I can just as easily portray the Black Lives Matter Movement of encouraging violence and actually behind the creating of racial division through the several violent protests that they found themselves as partakers in. Would you say that be fair in accurately describing the purpose of the B.L.M. movement?

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Note how I supported my claim with strong historical evidence.

Then note how you did NOTHING but voice your unsupported opinion and completely failed to even attempt to challenge my provided evidence or my reasoning.


I challenge you to trump the historical example I provided.

Hint: YOU CAN'T.

But you are too dishonest to admit that.

OK....come with me in my Wayback Machine

Pre 1965, Solid South, all Democrats running the south
1965 , Democrat LBJ signs Civil Rights act. South is outraged

1968, Republicans start Southern Strategy to steal those outraged voters away from the Democrats. Republicans start railing against policies like busing, affirmative action, public accommodation. All red meat to the racists

2016, South is solid Red for Republicans at all levels of government

Interesting when Senator Byrd is specifically mentioned in history as leading an 83 day filibuster against the civil raights act of 1964. I wonder if rightringer knows the "party" that he was associated with? This is why the left going with the accusation of "all republicans are racist" during that period of history fails every time. Key points of History, and those specific names involved, have a way of always revealing the truth.

Excellent point

And what direction did Byrd take on Civil Rights after 1964? He ended up being endorsed by the NAACP for his voting record

No Republican is endorsed by the NAACP

That is your southern strategy

So now "endorsement" is your best example to prove racism? So that would likewise mean the NRA never endorsing any democrat validates the democrat party's desire to do away with the second amendment. Let's try sticking to actual historical facts over an ideological endorsement shall we? At least you can ATTEMPT to bring more credibility to your argument.

Kind of went right over your head....didn't it big fella?

The point is Byrd changed. So much so that he had an admirable record on Civil Rights
Republicans also changed, from the party of Lincoln, a party that fought for civil rights....to a party that opposes rights for women, blacks, gays and minorities

You have yet to actually show that the GOP is a party that endorses racism and not equal rights to blacks. I already gave Senator Byrd as a historical evidence of where your argument failed.

However here is one example of how democrats receive the vast amount of the African American vote. In Connecticut, a group of fire fighters were denied a promotion after taking an exam, due to the fact that African Americans were not also found in the group. Now they were all given the same exam, received the same opportunity of training, yet because those African Americans who took the same exam had not passed, those who earned their promotion was denied.

"The 20 firefighters, one of whom is Hispanic, sued in 2004 after the city refused to honor the results of a civil service exam"
New Haven: City To Award $2 Million In Damages Plus Enhanced Pension Benefits To Firefighters In Reverse Discrimination Lawsuit

Now last I checked, allowing a promotion or showing favoritism towards a certain group of individuals solely based on their racial background IS racism. Yet the policy of rewarding an individual based on race, over their own ability to pass the same exam as part of their emoooyment or even acceptance into a university based on their ethnicity, is actually endorsed by the Democrat party. When should race ever be more important or valued than an individual's effort?

 

[ogibillm]

can you fathom that at least some of thr opposition to obama and driving force behind the 'tea party' was racism?

The tea party is more of a difference in the ideological role of government. Can you comprehend the difference between clear racial statements, from those who demonstrate and protest a different political view of our government? Do you have any links to actual statements that are made from those leaders of the tea party movement, that show nothing else but a clear racial hatred statement towards the president?

you aren't really asking for this, are you?

I am questioning your ability to be able to comprehend the difference. No spin of explanation to try and create a racial atmosphere, a clear racial slur and hateful racial statement from the leaders in charge of the tea party movement. You see a democrat supporter can quite easily create a sentiment of racism by creating a sign and infiltrating in the middle a tea party movement for a photo op (and don't tell me the democrats wouldn't dream of such an attempt to justify THEIR cause). I want a clear racial statement and slur that is without question and can't be disproven

www.msnbc.com/msnbc/tea-party-fail/

O.C. Tea Partier Sends Racist Obama Email

newsone.com/756875/tea-partys-carl-paladino-who-sent-racist-emails-wins-n-y-gop-gov-nomination/

Tea Party Express spokesman resigns after racist blog post

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1600376


and theb there's all the science that shows the rank and file tea party supporter is more likely to harbor racial animus

Are Tea Partiers racists?

Reading the articles, you have a board member who was forced to resign by the Tea Party, and Williams who's only position is in a radio talk show. I fail to see where the endorsement of racism is "supported and encouraged" by the Tea Party. Forcing an individual to resign and no longer allowed to associate is a far cry from encouraging racism within their movement. Does racism exist? Within republicans AND democrats absolutely 100% I believe that to be true. Is such racism tolerated? By your posts they absolutely did not.

If I was to paint the picture that the discovery of those individuals who were forced to resign as somehow an endorsement to racism under the Tea Party Movement, I can just as easily portray the Black Lives Matter Movement of encouraging violence and actually behind the creating of racial division through the several violent protests that they found themselves as partakers in. Would you say that be fair in accurately describing the purpose of the B.L.M. movement?

and how do you excuse all the scientific research showing tea party supporters as more likely to harbor racial animus?

 

[rightwinger]

OK....come with me in my Wayback Machine

Pre 1965, Solid South, all Democrats running the south
1965 , Democrat LBJ signs Civil Rights act. South is outraged

1968, Republicans start Southern Strategy to steal those outraged voters away from the Democrats. Republicans start railing against policies like busing, affirmative action, public accommodation. All red meat to the racists

2016, South is solid Red for Republicans at all levels of government

Interesting when Senator Byrd is specifically mentioned in history as leading an 83 day filibuster against the civil raights act of 1964. I wonder if rightringer knows the "party" that he was associated with? This is why the left going with the accusation of "all republicans are racist" during that period of history fails every time. Key points of History, and those specific names involved, have a way of always revealing the truth.

Excellent point

And what direction did Byrd take on Civil Rights after 1964? He ended up being endorsed by the NAACP for his voting record

No Republican is endorsed by the NAACP

That is your southern strategy

So now "endorsement" is your best example to prove racism? So that would likewise mean the NRA never endorsing any democrat validates the democrat party's desire to do away with the second amendment. Let's try sticking to actual historical facts over an ideological endorsement shall we? At least you can ATTEMPT to bring more credibility to your argument.

Kind of went right over your head....didn't it big fella?

The point is Byrd changed. So much so that he had an admirable record on Civil Rights
Republicans also changed, from the party of Lincoln, a party that fought for civil rights....to a party that opposes rights for women, blacks, gays and minorities

You have yet to actually show that the GOP is a party that endorses racism and equal rights to blacks. I already gave Senator Byrd as a historical evidence of where your argument failed.

However here is one example of how democrats receive the vast amount of the African American vote. In Connecticut, a group of fire fighters were denied a promotion after taking an exam, due to the fact that African Americans were not also found in the group. Now they were all given the same exam, received the same opportunity of training, yet because those African Americans who took the same exam had not passed, those who earned their promotion was denied.

"The 20 firefighters, one of whom is Hispanic, sued in 2004 after the city refused to honor the results of a civil service exam"
New Haven: City To Award $2 Million In Damages Plus Enhanced Pension Benefits To Firefighters In Reverse Discrimination Lawsuit

Now last I checked, allowing a promotion or showing favoritism towards a certain group of individuals solely based on their racial background IS racism. Yet the policy of rewarding an individual based on race, over their own ability to pass the same exam as part of their emoooyment or even acceptance into a university based on their ethnicity, is actually endorsed by the Democrat party. When should race ever be more important or valued than an individual's effort?

It has been 12 years since that case

How did those firefighters do on the job?

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

The tea party is more of a difference in the ideological role of government. Can you comprehend the difference between clear racial statements, from those who demonstrate and protest a different political view of our government? Do you have any links to actual statements that are made from those leaders of the tea party movement, that show nothing else but a clear racial hatred statement towards the president?

you aren't really asking for this, are you?

I am questioning your ability to be able to comprehend the difference. No spin of explanation to try and create a racial atmosphere, a clear racial slur and hateful racial statement from the leaders in charge of the tea party movement. You see a democrat supporter can quite easily create a sentiment of racism by creating a sign and infiltrating in the middle a tea party movement for a photo op (and don't tell me the democrats wouldn't dream of such an attempt to justify THEIR cause). I want a clear racial statement and slur that is without question and can't be disproven

www.msnbc.com/msnbc/tea-party-fail/

O.C. Tea Partier Sends Racist Obama Email

newsone.com/756875/tea-partys-carl-paladino-who-sent-racist-emails-wins-n-y-gop-gov-nomination/

Tea Party Express spokesman resigns after racist blog post

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1600376


and theb there's all the science that shows the rank and file tea party supporter is more likely to harbor racial animus

Are Tea Partiers racists?

Reading the articles, you have a board member who was forced to resign by the Tea Party, and Williams who's only position is in a radio talk show. I fail to see where the endorsement of racism is "supported and encouraged" by the Tea Party. Forcing an individual to resign and no longer allowed to associate is a far cry from encouraging racism within their movement. Does racism exist? Within republicans AND democrats absolutely 100% I believe that to be true. Is such racism tolerated? By your posts they absolutely did not.

If I was to paint the picture that the discovery of those individuals who were forced to resign as somehow an endorsement to racism under the Tea Party Movement, I can just as easily portray the Black Lives Matter Movement of encouraging violence and actually behind the creating of racial division through the several violent protests that they found themselves as partakers in. Would you say that be fair in accurately describing the purpose of the B.L.M. movement?

and how do you excuse all the scientific research showing tea party supporters as more likely to harbor racial animus?

Let's look at racism and racist tolerance since this is the subject here. Would you say a company policy that discovers an individual making racial statements of any kind, and having that person removed from their position as "harboring" racists?

Yet you are saying the Tea Party which (according to your article, so as there to be no misinterpretation) is found to be doing the very same act, by removing an individual for making what she deemed to be simply a racial joke, as harboring and encouraging racism? How so? Do you in fact know what it means to show "racial intolerance", or do you need a definition first?

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Interesting when Senator Byrd is specifically mentioned in history as leading an 83 day filibuster against the civil raights act of 1964. I wonder if rightringer knows the "party" that he was associated with? This is why the left going with the accusation of "all republicans are racist" during that period of history fails every time. Key points of History, and those specific names involved, have a way of always revealing the truth.

Excellent point

And what direction did Byrd take on Civil Rights after 1964? He ended up being endorsed by the NAACP for his voting record

No Republican is endorsed by the NAACP

That is your southern strategy

So now "endorsement" is your best example to prove racism? So that would likewise mean the NRA never endorsing any democrat validates the democrat party's desire to do away with the second amendment. Let's try sticking to actual historical facts over an ideological endorsement shall we? At least you can ATTEMPT to bring more credibility to your argument.

Kind of went right over your head....didn't it big fella?

The point is Byrd changed. So much so that he had an admirable record on Civil Rights
Republicans also changed, from the party of Lincoln, a party that fought for civil rights....to a party that opposes rights for women, blacks, gays and minorities

You have yet to actually show that the GOP is a party that endorses racism and equal rights to blacks. I already gave Senator Byrd as a historical evidence of where your argument failed.

However here is one example of how democrats receive the vast amount of the African American vote. In Connecticut, a group of fire fighters were denied a promotion after taking an exam, due to the fact that African Americans were not also found in the group. Now they were all given the same exam, received the same opportunity of training, yet because those African Americans who took the same exam had not passed, those who earned their promotion was denied.

"The 20 firefighters, one of whom is Hispanic, sued in 2004 after the city refused to honor the results of a civil service exam"
New Haven: City To Award $2 Million In Damages Plus Enhanced Pension Benefits To Firefighters In Reverse Discrimination Lawsuit

Now last I checked, allowing a promotion or showing favoritism towards a certain group of individuals solely based on their racial background IS racism. Yet the policy of rewarding an individual based on race, over their own ability to pass the same exam as part of their emoooyment or even acceptance into a university based on their ethnicity, is actually endorsed by the Democrat party. When should race ever be more important or valued than an individual's effort?

It has been 12 years since that case

How did those firefighters do on the job?

2011 is 20 years? Where do you learn your math? Especially since Justice Sotomayor also commented on the case

 

[rightwinger]

Excellent point

And what direction did Byrd take on Civil Rights after 1964? He ended up being endorsed by the NAACP for his voting record

No Republican is endorsed by the NAACP

That is your southern strategy

So now "endorsement" is your best example to prove racism? So that would likewise mean the NRA never endorsing any democrat validates the democrat party's desire to do away with the second amendment. Let's try sticking to actual historical facts over an ideological endorsement shall we? At least you can ATTEMPT to bring more credibility to your argument.

Kind of went right over your head....didn't it big fella?

The point is Byrd changed. So much so that he had an admirable record on Civil Rights
Republicans also changed, from the party of Lincoln, a party that fought for civil rights....to a party that opposes rights for women, blacks, gays and minorities

You have yet to actually show that the GOP is a party that endorses racism and equal rights to blacks. I already gave Senator Byrd as a historical evidence of where your argument failed.

However here is one example of how democrats receive the vast amount of the African American vote. In Connecticut, a group of fire fighters were denied a promotion after taking an exam, due to the fact that African Americans were not also found in the group. Now they were all given the same exam, received the same opportunity of training, yet because those African Americans who took the same exam had not passed, those who earned their promotion was denied.

"The 20 firefighters, one of whom is Hispanic, sued in 2004 after the city refused to honor the results of a civil service exam"
New Haven: City To Award $2 Million In Damages Plus Enhanced Pension Benefits To Firefighters In Reverse Discrimination Lawsuit

Now last I checked, allowing a promotion or showing favoritism towards a certain group of individuals solely based on their racial background IS racism. Yet the policy of rewarding an individual based on race, over their own ability to pass the same exam as part of their emoooyment or even acceptance into a university based on their ethnicity, is actually endorsed by the Democrat party. When should race ever be more important or valued than an individual's effort?

It has been 12 years since that case

How did those firefighters do on the job?

2011 is 20 years? Where do you learn your math? Especially since Justice Sotomayor also commented on the case

Still didn't answer

How did they do on the job?

You cons made such a fuss over their hiring. I'm sure you have all kinds of horror stories about what horrible firefighters they made

But wait...there aren't any

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

So now "endorsement" is your best example to prove racism? So that would likewise mean the NRA never endorsing any democrat validates the democrat party's desire to do away with the second amendment. Let's try sticking to actual historical facts over an ideological endorsement shall we? At least you can ATTEMPT to bring more credibility to your argument.

Kind of went right over your head....didn't it big fella?

The point is Byrd changed. So much so that he had an admirable record on Civil Rights
Republicans also changed, from the party of Lincoln, a party that fought for civil rights....to a party that opposes rights for women, blacks, gays and minorities

You have yet to actually show that the GOP is a party that endorses racism and equal rights to blacks. I already gave Senator Byrd as a historical evidence of where your argument failed.

However here is one example of how democrats receive the vast amount of the African American vote. In Connecticut, a group of fire fighters were denied a promotion after taking an exam, due to the fact that African Americans were not also found in the group. Now they were all given the same exam, received the same opportunity of training, yet because those African Americans who took the same exam had not passed, those who earned their promotion was denied.

"The 20 firefighters, one of whom is Hispanic, sued in 2004 after the city refused to honor the results of a civil service exam"
New Haven: City To Award $2 Million In Damages Plus Enhanced Pension Benefits To Firefighters In Reverse Discrimination Lawsuit

Now last I checked, allowing a promotion or showing favoritism towards a certain group of individuals solely based on their racial background IS racism. Yet the policy of rewarding an individual based on race, over their own ability to pass the same exam as part of their emoooyment or even acceptance into a university based on their ethnicity, is actually endorsed by the Democrat party. When should race ever be more important or valued than an individual's effort?

It has been 12 years since that case

How did those firefighters do on the job?

2011 is 20 years? Where do you learn your math? Especially since Justice Sotomayor also commented on the case

Still didn't answer

How did they do on the job?

You cons made such a fuss over their hiring. I'm sure you have all kinds of horror stories about what horrible firefighters they made

But wait...there aren't any

So you are endorsing racism when its policies are encouraged by the democrat party? I'm not going to change the subject simply because you don't want to discuss it.

 

[rightwinger]

Kind of went right over your head....didn't it big fella?

The point is Byrd changed. So much so that he had an admirable record on Civil Rights
Republicans also changed, from the party of Lincoln, a party that fought for civil rights....to a party that opposes rights for women, blacks, gays and minorities

You have yet to actually show that the GOP is a party that endorses racism and equal rights to blacks. I already gave Senator Byrd as a historical evidence of where your argument failed.

However here is one example of how democrats receive the vast amount of the African American vote. In Connecticut, a group of fire fighters were denied a promotion after taking an exam, due to the fact that African Americans were not also found in the group. Now they were all given the same exam, received the same opportunity of training, yet because those African Americans who took the same exam had not passed, those who earned their promotion was denied.

"The 20 firefighters, one of whom is Hispanic, sued in 2004 after the city refused to honor the results of a civil service exam"
New Haven: City To Award $2 Million In Damages Plus Enhanced Pension Benefits To Firefighters In Reverse Discrimination Lawsuit

Now last I checked, allowing a promotion or showing favoritism towards a certain group of individuals solely based on their racial background IS racism. Yet the policy of rewarding an individual based on race, over their own ability to pass the same exam as part of their emoooyment or even acceptance into a university based on their ethnicity, is actually endorsed by the Democrat party. When should race ever be more important or valued than an individual's effort?

It has been 12 years since that case

How did those firefighters do on the job?

2011 is 20 years? Where do you learn your math? Especially since Justice Sotomayor also commented on the case

Still didn't answer

How did they do on the job?

You cons made such a fuss over their hiring. I'm sure you have all kinds of horror stories about what horrible firefighters they made

But wait...there aren't any

So you are endorsing racism when its policies are encouraged by the democrat party? I'm not going to change the subject simply because you don't want to discuss it.

Affirmative action is not racism

Every family in this country has benefitted from Affirmative Action

 

[oreo]

We're seeing racism and misogyny everywhere in the Republican party. There is no denying it.

Trying to cry foul--and say OH no we're not like that, is actually laughable.

...

Google Groups

That claim is denied ALL THE TIME, and very credibly by people who should know, as they are often personally accused.


Meanwhile you lefties pretend to know what we are thinking even better than we do ourselves while being so Vulcan that the incredible self interest you have in defining us as "racist" magically does not effect your analysis.



THAT Is what is absurd. Your claims.

I am not a lefty--I am a Republican that changed my party status to Independent--because like the article states, it became more than evident this party is no longer the party of Lincoln or Reagan, it is now the party of TRUMP. Stuffed full of ignorance, fear, bigotry, misogyny and extremism.

And it couldn't be better stated than in a 3 minute video from a long time friend and former staffer of RONALD REAGAN.

 

[Unkotare]

For 8 years the right has been called racist.

For eight years many on the right have been talking about how Obama is a secret Kenyan and a Mulsim, a foreigner who illegally snuck into Presidency.

You get what you put in.

Do you think that a person's childhood environment has any influence on them?

Whooop, there you go again.

That was not an answer.

Do you think that a person's childhood environment has any influence on them?

....

Many americans Presidents and candidates spent a lot of time in other countries, nobody tried to go down the road of accusing them of being foreign.

Proving what?

 

[Unkotare]

We're seeing racism and misogyny everywhere in the Republican party. There is no denying it.

Trying to cry foul--and say OH no we're not like that, is actually laughable.

...

Google Groups

That claim is denied ALL THE TIME, and very credibly by people who should know, as they are often personally accused.


Meanwhile you lefties pretend to know what we are thinking even better than we do ourselves while being so Vulcan that the incredible self interest you have in defining us as "racist" magically does not effect your analysis.



THAT Is what is absurd. Your claims.

I am not a lefty--I am a Republican that changed my party status to Independent--because like the article states, it ....Stuffed full of ignorance, fear, bigotry, misogyny and extremism....

......

You mean just like in the democrat party?

 

[easyt65]

For 8 years the right has been called racist...

...by liberals...in defense of their Leader's falls, failures, & f*-ups...

 

[AntonToo]

Tax cuts have historically increased revenue.

The only thing that increases deficits and debt is spending

I see you are committed to proving me 100% correct by displaying that you conservatives are operating on blatant falsehoods.



Tax cuts have not "historically increased revenue". The claim is nothing but a rightwing myth based on piss-poor understanding of revenue drivers (out of which long term economic growth, not minor tax-rate adjustments is a primary factor).

We've had record high revenues in 1990s and record LOW revenues since early 2000. Are you going to tell me that Clinton passed tax cuts and Bush expired them?

I know you won't take MY word for it, but I do urge you to read up on what SANE, NON-IGNORANT conservatives sound like when it comes to tax-cut effects:

Greg Mankiw's Blog: On Charlatans and Cranks

Here is what Bush's former chair of economic advisors, conservative and tax-cut suporter had to say to after Bush made the tax-cuts-increased-revenues claim in his SoTU speech:

You are smart people. You know that the tax cuts have not fueled record revenues. You know what it takes to establish causality. You know that the first order effect of cutting taxes is to lower tax revenues. We all agree that the ultimate reduction in tax revenues can be less than this first order effect, because lower tax rates encourage greater economic activity and thus expand the tax base. No thoughtful person believes that this possible offset more than compensated for the first effect for these tax cuts. Not a single one. - Andrew Samwick

There is only one group of people that believes that tax-cuts at current rates increase revenues - FAR RIGHT POLITICOS. That's what it takes to believe that nonsense. Conservative economists reject it and high profile Republicans no longer try to claim it.