Fonda Calls Nam Photo 'An Unforgivable Mistake'

[Rigby5]

we should never have went into Vietnam...but Fonda was a dumbass ......
she went in 1972!!!!!!!!!!! there were many protests/etc loooong before that --
Kent State was 1970!!!!!
Fonda didn't help with anything

We did not get out until AFTER Fonda.
I do not know how much good Fonda did, but she certainly did not do any harm.

 

[Rigby5]

ridiculous
and --Nixon tried to sabotage the peace talks

Whether or not Nixon wanted peace or not, I do not care.
The point is Fonda was right.
We should never have gone in, and we should have gotten out as fast as possible.
Fonda helped people see the Vietnamese has humans beings that had rights.

 

[harmonica]

Rigby5 no, you said she saved THOUSANDS of lives -that's ridiculous

 

[harmonica]

Whether or not Nixon wanted peace or not, I do not care.
The point is Fonda was right.
We should never have gone in, and we should have gotten out as fast as possible.
Fonda helped people see the Vietnamese has humans beings that had rights.

....now you are saying others did not see the Vietnamese as humans!!!!!!!!!! another ridiculous statement
...even the military saw the civilians as humans
..a lot people saw them as humans without Fonda

 

[harmonica]

We did not get out until AFTER Fonda.
I do not know how much good Fonda did, but she certainly did not do any harm.

now you are contradicting yourself
I know when we got out .....irrelevant

 

[Flash]

When what US troops are doing is wrong, you HAVE to give aid and comfort to those that are right, even if that means the death of more US troops who are wrong.
But Jane did not give aid or comfort to the enemy.
She just show us more about the Vietnamese, so that we could learn how wrong we were.
That saved US lives.

Would you support a gangster in the US who is murdering children just because it is a US citizen?
Of course not.
And the US citizens who were massacring Vietnamese villages and bombing Vietnamese homes with B-52s or napalm, were wrong.
As wrong as any gangster.
They should have known better.

People have rights, not just US citizens.
And in Vietnam, the Vietnamese should have more rights than US soldiers, who did not belong there.

You are still confused Moon Bat. You don't have a clue, do you?

Her complaint was with the Commander in Chief.

She should have been protesting at the White House, not helping the enemy kill Americans.

If you weren't such a confused Libtard idiot you would understand things like that.

By the way, you are really confused about the Vietnam War. Probably because the only thing you know about it is from placards from a filthy Hippy protest.

 

[Flash]

....now you are saying others did not see the Vietnamese as humans!!!!!!!!!! another ridiculous statement
...even the military saw the civilians as humans
..a lot people saw them as humans without Fonda
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It was a brutal war but in the years I was there I saw a tremendous amount of compassion towards Vietnamese by the military.

Contrary to the lies told by traiors like John Kerry American troops were mostly professional and compassionate.

 

[harmonica]

When what US troops are doing is wrong, you HAVE to give aid and comfort to those that are right, even if that means the death of more US troops who are wrong.
But Jane did not give aid or comfort to the enemy.
She just show us more about the Vietnamese, so that we could learn how wrong we were.
That saved US lives.

Would you support a gangster in the US who is murdering children just because it is a US citizen?
Of course not.
And the US citizens who were massacring Vietnamese villages and bombing Vietnamese homes with B-52s or napalm, were wrong.
As wrong as any gangster.
They should have known better.

People have rights, not just US citizens.
And in Vietnam, the Vietnamese should have more rights than US soldiers, who did not belong there.

wrong---as I've said many times, most people don't know shit about wars/etc...and you certainly do not
..comparing gangsters to the US military in Vietnam is ANOTHER ridiculous statement.....the military did nothing wrong
......napalm is a weapon like any other --nothing wrong there
....the South wanted us there---so, we were not there illegally/invading/etc

 

[Rigby5]

Rigby5 no, you said she saved THOUSANDS of lives -that's ridiculous

What if she shortened the war by years?
Then she would have saved tens of thousands of lives.
Remember that Vietnamese lives count equally, or maybe even more, since it was THEIR country.

 

[Rigby5]

....now you are saying others did not see the Vietnamese as humans!!!!!!!!!! another ridiculous statement
...even the military saw the civilians as humans
..a lot people saw them as humans without Fonda
View attachment 535384

If the US soldiers saw Vietnamese as human beings, then Mai Lai, napalm, agent orange, waterboarding, strategic hamlets, free fire zones, etc., would not have happened.

I don't want to and should not have to put up those images.
Everyone has seen them by now.

What we did in Vietnam was very wrong, and everyone now knows it, because of heroes like Fonda.

 

[Rigby5]

now you are contradicting yourself
I know when we got out .....irrelevant

From my memory, Fonda went to Vietnam in 72, and we did not get out until 75.
So it seems to me, Fonda should be getting most of the credit for saving all those lives that would have been lost if she had not gone and we did not get out for years more.

 

[Rigby5]

You are still confused Moon Bat. You don't have a clue, do you?

Her complaint was with the Commander in Chief.

She should have been protesting at the White House, not helping the enemy kill Americans.

If you weren't such a confused Libtard idiot you would understand things like that.

By the way, you are really confused about the Vietnam War. Probably because the only thing you know about it is from placards from a filthy Hippy protest.

No, Fonda's complaint was with the US citizens who paid their taxes to buy weapons to murder Vietnamese.
It was the US citizens who voted and were responsible for the war.
It was educating the US citizens that finally got the war to end.
And that required vido footage to show the human side of the people we were killing.
So she did the right thing.
She did not help kill Americans, but stopped Americans from murdering innocent Vietnamese.
You should like that.
Everyone should be glad we stopped murdering innocent Vietnamese.

 

[Rigby5]

It was a brutal war but in the years I was there I saw a tremendous amount of compassion towards Vietnamese by the military.

Contrary to the lies told by traiors like John Kerry American troops were mostly professional and compassionate.

How could US soldiers have been compassionate and still have done all that killing?
Napalm, Vulcan machine guns, b-52's, agent orange, etc. was all pretty awful.
It is not like we were defending ourselves, home, or country.
We were the aggressor, invading an innocent country.
Everyone must have known Diem, Theiu, Ky, etc., were just gangsters and criminals.

 

[harmonica]

Rigby5 you said:
'''Fonda allowed us to see the other side.''
that's wrong because there were protests/people/etc doing that BEFORE she went there

 

[harmonica]

If the US soldiers saw Vietnamese as human beings, then Mai Lai, napalm, agent orange, waterboarding, strategic hamlets, free fire zones, etc., would not have happened.

I don't want to and should not have to put up those images.
Everyone has seen them by now.

What we did in Vietnam was very wrong, and everyone now knows it, because of heroes like Fonda.

yes, yes, you do not know anything about wars...
HAHAHAHAHAha
FYI, people get killed in wars!!!!!!
in WW2 more CIVILIANS were killed than military!!!!!!!!!
civilian casualties are PART of war

 

[Rigby5]

wrong---as I've said many times, most people don't know shit about wars/etc...and you certainly do not
..comparing gangsters to the US military in Vietnam is ANOTHER ridiculous statement.....the military did nothing wrong
......napalm is a weapon like any other --nothing wrong there
....the South wanted us there---so, we were not there illegally/invading/etc

Wrong.
Napalm is not like any other weapon.
It does not instantly kill or wound.
It is the single most brutal terrorist weapon one can possibly imagine.
No other country uses or allow napalm.
It is incredibly evil, and only an evil person would even consider using it.

And it was always absolutely clear, even from quotes by Eisenhower, that the Vietnamese majority, and legal government, NEVER wanted us there.
The south most definitely did not want us there, and Diem would never have pulled the illegal military coup and take over, unless we had told him to.

 

[Rigby5]

Rigby5 you said:
'''Fonda allowed us to see the other side.''
that's wrong because there were protests/people/etc doing that BEFORE she went there

Protesting was totally ineffective because the protestors had no proof that the Vietnamese did not want us there.
Fonda showed us, in our living rooms, that the Vietnamese did not want us there.

 

[harmonica]

Protesting was totally ineffective because the protestors had no proof that the Vietnamese did not want us there.
Fonda showed us, in our living rooms, that the Vietnamese did not want us there.

lots of South Vietnamese wanted us there
....you make the mistake of a lot of people on a lot of issues---you think it's a board game/etc ....you are not thinking realistically/etc

 

[Rigby5]

yes, yes, you do not know anything about wars...
HAHAHAHAHAha
FYI, people get killed in wars!!!!!!
in WW2 more CIVILIANS were killed than military!!!!!!!!!
civilian casualties are PART of war

You miss the point, in that the fact civilians get killed is why almost all wars are likely wrong, and should be avoided.
But the war in Vietnam was exceptionally evil because of the huge mismatch in weapons, and the brutality of weapons we used, like napalm.

 

[harmonica]

Wrong.
Napalm is not like any other weapon.
It does not instantly kill or wound.
It is the single most brutal terrorist weapon one can possibly imagine.
No other country uses or allow napalm.
It is incredibly evil, and only an evil person would even consider using it.

And it was always absolutely clear, even from quotes by Eisenhower, that the Vietnamese majority, and legal government, NEVER wanted us there.
The south most definitely did not want us there, and Diem would never have pulled the illegal military coup and take over, unless we had told him to.

.....so being killed with napalm is worse than being killed with any other weapon? all weapons can produce HORRIBLE injuries/SLOW death/BURNS/etc....BURNED ALIVE by CONVENTIONAL explosives--NOT napalm

here--do you NOW realize how ridiculous your arguments are?? you have just been BLOWN away

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