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Which is ironic considering the only reliable way to trace ancestry is through mitochondrial dna, something provided solely by the mother.
And yes, Shog, children leave some of their cells behind in the mother's body. Hopefully that clear up your confusion displayed by your statement so, how does a MAN'S genetic material from a SHARED zygote BECOME part of your body again?
But I digress. It becomes increasing clear that your interest in this subject is purely getting out of being responsible for a living human. Once a child is born, both parents are equally responsible for it. The mother is no more free to abandon it than the father is...but I have no problem making an exception and letting someone as shallow and selfish as you off the hook.
Women have the ultimate decision on whether or not to give birth to a child. She is free at any point to commit suicide. Extreme? Certainly, but fact is fact.
?And next time you need an operation, some random can decide whether you get it or not. Or even if you don't want the operation they can force you to have it.
So much for individual rights
someone RANDOM or someone with whome he personally made the mutual zipper decision to FUCK?
Right...like most guys who got their girlfriend pregnant wouldn't be saying "oh gee.. .I don't want the baby", just so they could get out of support.
That ought to be real good for the numbers of single moms forced to raise children without help.... who are the majority of people on welfare. Very good for society.
Optimally, you'd get a signed contract before having sex.
Hey, if men want to marginalize themselves who am I to object?
CLEARLY, mitochondrial dna WANTS women to have sole authority in deciding if the child dies!
children leave some of their cells behind in the mother's body.
hmmm. how does one BOLD a
You can assume anything you want about my motivation, Ravi. We can both talk shit. The FACT remains that you just had to admit that a fertalized egg becomes an autonomous ZYGOTE consisting of shared DNA... in other words =/ your body.
Enjoy gnashing your teeth!
Be my guest. This is where my faith in the female libido kicks in and you discover that gals enjoy fucking just like men do. I assure you, you don't have a monopoly on the vag.
I'm off to the beach. I suggest you spend the day with a biology book.
And thankfully there are enough men out there that it's pretty easy to choose a partner that shares your views.
I highly recommend it.
well, then I guess that means ONE of the TWO people who made a mutial zipper decision might wanna be a bit more responsible with their cum catcher, eh?
Too fucking bad.. isn't that what you'd otherwise be telling a man? Shoulda thought of that before you unzipped the pants? Indeed, welcome to equality.
oh, and the welfare schtick is laughable too. Gals are just as quick to breed for benefits without having to blame a man. In a day and age where you have every option and form or birth control at your whim you have no excuses.
After all, that IS what you'd have told a man, eh?
Again, by whose definition? I don't believe two cells together equals a child and my religious beliefs agree. If yours don't I have no problem with whatever definition you apply....but you don't get to define it for me because somewhere someone told you that it's a child from conception.
Optimally, you'd get a signed contract before having sex.
Hey, if men want to marginalize themselves who am I to object?
Ahhhhhhh, but this IS WHY it is up to the man, or at least it used to be in the "old days"....he knew that if he unzipped his zipper and if the woman got pregnant that he would probably HAVE TO MARRY HER or he would certainly have to pay child support for the next 18 years....
Once the man stopped thinking about this and once the man started copping out on their responsibility in this, is actually when it all went haywire in my FEMALE OPINION.
They created the Birth Control pill....thought it would give them an "easy way out".....
Then when that wasn't good enough the males pushed the legality of abortion and had MALE doctors create safe procedures.... had the MALE congressMEN in many states make it legal, even before roe v wade federal decision...
yah dee and dah....
Seeeeeeeeeeeeee, I can make up all kinds of shit to put the "blame" on to MALES as you did to females.....can't I?
Care
hint: I was teasing him Gunny!I don't agree. The man doesn't have to remove any more clothing than the woman and SHE decides whether or not those legs get spread.
It takes two to engage in irresponsible sexual behavior. Blaming one or the other is ridiculous. It only takes one to be responsible, however.
Say what you want but if I am the one that could end up pregnant out of the deal, I'm the one that's going to make damned sure as best I can that it doesn't happen unless the goal is to get pregnant. Trusting THAT decision to someone else is not covering one's ass, so to speak.
hint: I was teasing him Gunny!
Drink some more coffee then maybe you'll catch my "dripping in sarcasm" post!
Care
He's well versed in sarcasm; trust me. Perhaps it's simply that you're not effective at properly using it?
Ahhhhhhh, but this IS WHY it is up to the man, or at least it used to be in the "old days"....he knew that if he unzipped his zipper and if the woman got pregnant that he would probably HAVE TO MARRY HER or he would certainly have to pay child support for the next 18 years....
Once the man stopped thinking about this and once the man started copping out on their responsibility in this, is actually when it all went haywire in my FEMALE OPINION.
They created the Birth Control pill....thought it would give them an "easy way out".....
Then when that wasn't good enough the males pushed the legality of abortion and had MALE doctors create safe procedures.... had the MALE congressMEN in many states make it legal, even before roe v wade federal decision...
yah dee and dah....
Seeeeeeeeeeeeee, I can make up all kinds of shit to put the "blame" on to MALES as you did to females.....can't I?
Care
Got news for you ... the fact that men have NO say in whether or not the woman keeps the child and whether or not they are forced to support it if the woman decides to keep it pretty much marginalizes the man as far as it can go.
