Fla. doc's sign warns off Obama supporters

i don't know... how many people who voted for obama saw that sign and walked in anyway?

me? i'd have said to myself, 'self, heck with him... i'll go give my hard-earned money to a doctor with more than a double digit IQ".

just saying.

If they walked away then they weren't in dire need of care. They exercised their freedom to CHOOSE another Doctor. The guy has a right to say or do whatever he wants...but when he actually refuses to care for someone based on their political views and who they voted for then that's a different story...that's why I asked for a name.

he's not allowed to deny treatment based on politics. you can try to frame what the twit did any way you want. but he still violated his oath.

tell ya what, next time you're in his neck of the woods, walk in and tell him you voted for the president. see what he does.

btw, i think he shouldn't be allowed any medicare reimbursement. how's that? you know, since it would come from us people who voted for president obama.

Every doctor that prescribes birth control violates the "oath" as does every doctor that performs an abortion and doctors that prescribes euthanasia. I haven't seen you rail against any of them. Hypocrite much?
 
Yes, thank you for showing that is nothing but a rightwingnut talking point.

:thup:



Can't read much, can you?

It that's all you got, you ain't got much.
 
Yes, thank you for showing that is nothing but a rightwingnut talking point.

:thup:


Can't read much, can you?

It that's all you got, you ain't got much.
I can read just fine. Next time you link to a gop whine fest, try doing a little research first.


You can look up each one (all referenced by section and page #) in the text of the health care bill itself, to which I linked.

Which ones do not involve a new panel, review board, department program, or bureaucracy to out health care system?
 
There are no 159 panels. That's just a wingnut talking point. I can see you are not being honest...:eusa_liar:


Here you go. The broader label is panels, review boards, programs, and departments (which I used earlier in the thread) - panels is the short hand.

You can read the full text yourself to see what these cover here:

Text of H.R.3590 as Enrolled Bill: Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress

Here is a list of new boards, bureaucracies, and programs created in the 2,733 page Senate health care bill, which serves as the framework for President Obama’s health proposal:

1. Grant program for consumer assistance offices (Section 1002, p. 37)
2. Grant program for states to monitor premium increases (Section 1003, p. 42)
3. Committee to review administrative simplification standards (Section 1104, p. 71)
4. Demonstration program for state wellness programs (Section 1201, p. 93)
5. Grant program to establish state Exchanges (Section 1311(a), p. 130)
6. State American Health Benefit Exchanges (Section 1311(b), p. 131)
7. Exchange grants to establish consumer navigator programs (Section 1311(i), p. 150)
8. Grant program for state cooperatives (Section 1322, p. 169)
9. Advisory board for state cooperatives (Section 1322(b)(3), p. 173)
10. Private purchasing council for state cooperatives (Section 1322(d), p. 177)
11. State basic health plan programs (Section 1331, p. 201)
12. State-based reinsurance program (Section 1341, p. 226)
13. Program of risk corridors for individual and small group markets (Section 1342, p. 233)
14. Program to determine eligibility for Exchange participation (Section 1411, p. 267)
15. Program for advance determination of tax credit eligibility (Section 1412, p. 288)
16. Grant program to implement health IT enrollment standards (Section 1561, p. 370)
17. Federal Coordinated Health Care Office for dual eligible beneficiaries (Section 2602, p. 512)
18. Medicaid quality measurement program (Section 2701, p. 518)
19. Medicaid health home program for people with chronic conditions, and grants for planning same (Section 2703, p. 524)
20. Medicaid demonstration project to evaluate bundled payments (Section 2704, p. 532)
21. Medicaid demonstration project for global payment system (Section 2705, p. 536)
22. Medicaid demonstration project for accountable care organizations (Section 2706, p. 538)
23. Medicaid demonstration project for emergency psychiatric care (Section 2707, p. 540)
24. Grant program for delivery of services to individuals with postpartum depression (Section 2952(b), p. 591)
25. State allotments for grants to promote personal responsibility education programs (Section 2953, p. 596)
26. Medicare value-based purchasing program (Section 3001(a), p. 613)
27. Medicare value-based purchasing demonstration program for critical access hospitals (Section 3001(b), p. 637)
28. Medicare value-based purchasing program for skilled nursing facilities (Section 3006(a), p. 666)
29. Medicare value-based purchasing program for home health agencies (Section 3006(b), p. 668)
30. Interagency Working Group on Health Care Quality (Section 3012, p. 688)
31. Grant program to develop health care quality measures (Section 3013, p. 693)
32. Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation (Section 3021, p. 712)
33. Medicare shared savings program (Section 3022, p. 728)
34. Medicare pilot program on payment bundling (Section 3023, p. 739)
35. Independence at home medical practice demonstration program (Section 3024, p. 752)
36. Program for use of patient safety organizations to reduce hospital readmission rates (Section 3025(b), p. 775)
37. Community-based care transitions program (Section 3026, p. 776)
38. Demonstration project for payment of complex diagnostic laboratory tests (Section 3113, p. 800)
39. Medicare hospice concurrent care demonstration project (Section 3140, p. 850)
40. Independent Payment Advisory Board (Section 3403, p. 982)
41. Consumer Advisory Council for Independent Payment Advisory Board (Section 3403, p. 1027)
42. Grant program for technical assistance to providers implementing health quality practices (Section 3501, p. 1043)
43. Grant program to establish interdisciplinary health teams (Section 3502, p. 1048)
44. Grant program to implement medication therapy management (Section 3503, p. 1055)
45. Grant program to support emergency care pilot programs (Section 3504, p. 1061)
46. Grant program to promote universal access to trauma services (Section 3505(b), p. 1081)
47. Grant program to develop and promote shared decision-making aids (Section 3506, p. 1088)
48. Grant program to support implementation of shared decision-making (Section 3506, p. 1091)
49. Grant program to integrate quality improvement in clinical education (Section 3508, p. 1095)
50. Health and Human Services Coordinating Committee on Women’s Health (Section 3509(a), p. 1098)
51. Centers for Disease Control Office of Women’s Health (Section 3509(b), p. 1102)
52. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality Office of Women’s Health (Section 3509(e), p. 1105)
53. Health Resources and Services Administration Office of Women’s Health (Section 3509(f), p. 1106)
54. Food and Drug Administration Office of Women’s Health (Section 3509(g), p. 1109)
55. National Prevention, Health Promotion, and Public Health Council (Section 4001, p. 1114)
56. Advisory Group on Prevention, Health Promotion, and Integrative and Public Health (Section 4001(f), p. 1117)
57. Prevention and Public Health Fund (Section 4002, p. 1121)
58. Community Preventive Services Task Force (Section 4003(b), p. 1126)
59. Grant program to support school-based health centers (Section 4101, p. 1135)
60. Grant program to promote research-based dental caries disease management (Section 4102, p. 1147)
61. Grant program for States to prevent chronic disease in Medicaid beneficiaries (Section 4108, p. 1174)
62. Community transformation grants (Section 4201, p. 1182)
63. Grant program to provide public health interventions (Section 4202, p. 1188)
64. Demonstration program of grants to improve child immunization rates (Section 4204(b), p. 1200)
65. Pilot program for risk-factor assessments provided through community health centers (Section 4206, p. 1215)
66. Grant program to increase epidemiology and laboratory capacity (Section 4304, p. 1233)
67. Interagency Pain Research Coordinating Committee (Section 4305, p. 1238)
68. National Health Care Workforce Commission (Section 5101, p. 1256)
69. Grant program to plan health care workforce development activities (Section 5102(c), p. 1275)
70. Grant program to implement health care workforce development activities (Section 5102(d), p. 1279)
71. Pediatric specialty loan repayment program (Section 5203, p. 1295)
72. Public Health Workforce Loan Repayment Program (Section 5204, p. 1300)
73. Allied Health Loan Forgiveness Program (Section 5205, p. 1305)
74. Grant program to provide mid-career training for health professionals (Section 5206, p. 1307)
75. Grant program to fund nurse-managed health clinics (Section 5208, p. 1310)
76. Grant program to support primary care training programs (Section 5301, p. 1315)
77. Grant program to fund training for direct care workers (Section 5302, p. 1322)
78. Grant program to develop dental training programs (Section 5303, p. 1325)
79. Demonstration program to increase access to dental health care in underserved communities (Section 5304, p. 1331)
80. Grant program to promote geriatric education centers (Section 5305, p. 1334)
81. Grant program to promote health professionals entering geriatrics (Section 5305, p. 1339)
82. Grant program to promote training in mental and behavioral health (Section 5306, p. 1344)
83. Grant program to promote nurse retention programs (Section 5309, p. 1354)
84. Student loan forgiveness for nursing school faculty (Section 5311(b), p. 1360)
85. Grant program to promote positive health behaviors and outcomes (Section 5313, p. 1364)
86. Public Health Sciences Track for medical students (Section 5315, p. 1372)
87. Primary Care Extension Program to educate providers (Section 5405, p. 1404)
88. Grant program for demonstration projects to address health workforce shortage needs (Section 5507, p. 1442)
89. Grant program for demonstration projects to develop training programs for home health aides (Section 5507, p. 1447)
90. Grant program to establish new primary care residency programs (Section 5508(a), p. 1458)
91. Program of payments to teaching health centers that sponsor medical residency training (Section 5508(c), p. 1462)
92. Graduate nurse education demonstration program (Section 5509, p. 1472)
93. Grant program to establish demonstration projects for community-based mental health settings (Section 5604, p. 1486)
94. Commission on Key National Indicators (Section 5605, p. 1489)
95. Quality assurance and performance improvement program for skilled nursing facilities (Section 6102, p. 1554)
96. Special focus facility program for skilled nursing facilities (Section 6103(a)(3), p. 1561)
97. Special focus facility program for nursing facilities (Section 6103(b)(3), p. 1568)
98. National independent monitor pilot program for skilled nursing facilities and nursing facilities (Section 6112, p. 1589)
99. Demonstration projects for nursing facilities involved in the culture change movement (Section 6114, p. 1597)
100. Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute (Section 6301, p. 1619)
101. Standing methodology committee for Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute (Section 6301, p. 1629)
102. Board of Governors for Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute (Section 6301, p. 1638)
103. Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Trust Fund (Section 6301(e), p. 1656)
104. Elder Justice Coordinating Council (Section 6703, p. 1773)
105. Advisory Board on Elder Abuse, Neglect, and Exploitation (Section 6703, p. 1776)
106. Grant program to create elder abuse forensic centers (Section 6703, p. 1783)
107. Grant program to promote continuing education for long-term care staffers (Section 6703, p. 1787)
108. Grant program to improve management practices and training (Section 6703, p. 1788)
109. Grant program to subsidize costs of electronic health records (Section 6703, p. 1791)
110. Grant program to promote adult protective services (Section 6703, p. 1796)
111. Grant program to conduct elder abuse detection and prevention (Section 6703, p. 1798)
112. Grant program to support long-term care ombudsmen (Section 6703, p. 1800)
113. National Training Institute for long-term care surveyors (Section 6703, p. 1806)
114. Grant program to fund State surveys of long-term care residences (Section 6703, p. 1809)
115. CLASS Independence Fund (Section 8002, p. 1926)
116. CLASS Independence Fund Board of Trustees (Section 8002, p. 1927)
117. CLASS Independence Advisory Council (Section 8002, p. 1931)
118. Personal Care Attendants Workforce Advisory Panel (Section 8002(c), p. 1938)
119. Multi-state health plans offered by Office of Personnel Management (Section 10104(p), p. 2086)
120. Advisory board for multi-state health plans (Section 10104(p), p. 2094)
121. Pregnancy Assistance Fund (Section 10212, p. 2164)
122. Value-based purchasing program for ambulatory surgical centers (Section 10301, p. 2176)
123. Demonstration project for payment adjustments to home health services (Section 10315, p. 2200)
124. Pilot program for care of individuals in environmental emergency declaration areas (Section 10323, p. 2223)
125. Grant program to screen at-risk individuals for environmental health conditions (Section 10323(b), p. 2231)
126. Pilot programs to implement value-based purchasing (Section 10326, p. 2242)
127. Grant program to support community-based collaborative care networks (Section 10333, p. 2265)
128. Centers for Disease Control Office of Minority Health (Section 10334, p. 2272)
129. Health Resources and Services Administration Office of Minority Health (Section 10334, p. 2272)
130. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration Office of Minority Health (Section 10334, p. 2272)
131. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality Office of Minority Health (Section 10334, p. 2272)
132. Food and Drug Administration Office of Minority Health (Section 10334, p. 2272)
133. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services Office of Minority Health (Section 10334, p. 2272)
134. Grant program to promote small business wellness programs (Section 10408, p. 2285)
135. Cures Acceleration Network (Section 10409, p. 2289)
136. Cures Acceleration Network Review Board (Section 10409, p. 2291)
137. Grant program for Cures Acceleration Network (Section 10409, p. 2297)
138. Grant program to promote centers of excellence for depression (Section 10410, p. 2304)
139. Advisory committee for young women’s breast health awareness education campaign (Section 10413, p. 2322)
140. Grant program to provide assistance to provide information to young women with breast cancer (Section 10413, p. 2326)
141. Interagency Access to Health Care in Alaska Task Force (Section 10501, p. 2329)
142. Grant program to train nurse practitioners as primary care providers (Section 10501(e), p. 2332)
143. Grant program for community-based diabetes prevention (Section 10501(g), p. 2337)
144. Grant program for providers who treat a high percentage of medically underserved populations (Section 10501(k), p. 2343)
145. Grant program to recruit students to practice in underserved communities (Section 10501(l), p. 2344)
146. Community Health Center Fund (Section 10503, p. 2355)
147. Demonstration project to provide access to health care for the uninsured at reduced fees (Section 10504, p. 2357)
148. Demonstration program to explore alternatives to tort litigation (Section 10607, p. 2369)
149. Indian Health demonstration program for chronic shortages of health professionals (S. 1790, Section 112, p. 24)*
150. Office of Indian Men’s Health (S. 1790, Section 136, p. 71)*
151. Indian Country modular component facilities demonstration program (S. 1790, Section 146, p. 108)*
152. Indian mobile health stations demonstration program (S. 1790, Section 147, p. 111)*
153. Office of Direct Service Tribes (S. 1790, Section 172, p. 151)*
154. Indian Health Service mental health technician training program (S. 1790, Section 181, p. 173)*
155. Indian Health Service program for treatment of child sexual abuse victims (S. 1790, Section 181, p. 192)*
156. Indian Health Service program for treatment of domestic violence and sexual abuse (S. 1790, Section 181, p. 194)*
157. Indian youth telemental health demonstration project (S. 1790, Section 181, p. 204)*
158. Indian youth life skills demonstration project (S. 1790, Section 181, p. 220)*
159. Indian Health Service Director of HIV/AIDS Prevention and Treatment (S. 1790, Section 199B, p. 258)*


159 Ways the Senate Bill Is a Government Takeover of Health Care - Blog - GOP.gov

that's an old lawyer trick.. flood em with paperwork.

Actually all of these new government bureaucracies will take a few tenths off the unemployment numbers...but cause taxes on all Americans to go up by at least 10% across the board.
 
i don't know... how many people who voted for obama saw that sign and walked in anyway?

me? i'd have said to myself, 'self, heck with him... i'll go give my hard-earned money to a doctor with more than a double digit IQ".

and, assuming i was stupid enough to walk in the door and say, go aheahd doc, treat my sore throat, oh, btw, i voted for obama", don't you think he'd have directed me to the sign on his front door?

just saying.

I don't know many people who go to a urologist for a sore throat.

Unless drinking their own urine is causing the soreness. I guess.

Jilly wants her sore throat treated by a urologist? :eek: Better than a proctologist I guess. :eusa_angel:

sweetie, do you think it makes you look intelligent to post garbage like that when i already said i didn't read that far.

and it had nothing to do with the point.

but that would explain why that was your focus.

poor willow.
 
Every doctor that prescribes birth control violates the "oath" as does every doctor that performs an abortion and doctors that prescribes euthanasia. I haven't seen you rail against any of them. Hypocrite much?

because those things are only true if you're a religious nutcase.

Are you saying Hippocrates was a religious nutcase?

The Hippocratic Oath

Original, translated into English:

“ I swear by Apollo, the healer, Asclepius, Hygieia, and Panacea, and I take to witness all the gods, all the goddesses, to keep according to my ability and my judgment, the following Oath and agreement:

To consider dear to me, as my parents, him who taught me this art; to live in common with him and, if necessary, to share my goods with him; To look upon his children as my own brothers, to teach them this art.

I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone.

I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion.

But I will preserve the purity of my life and my arts.

I will not cut for stone, even for patients in whom the disease is manifest; I will leave this operation to be performed by practitioners, specialists in this art.

In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all seduction and especially from the pleasures of love with women or with men, be they free or slaves.

All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or in daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal.

If I keep this oath faithfully, may I enjoy my life and practice my art, respected by all men and in all times; but if I swerve from it or violate it, may the reverse be my lot.”
 
Actually all of these new government bureaucracies will take a few tenths off the unemployment numbers...but cause taxes on all Americans to go up by at least 10% across the board.


And increase unemployment in the private sector.
 
Actually all of these new government bureaucracies will take a few tenths off the unemployment numbers...but cause taxes on all Americans to go up by at least 10% across the board.


And increase unemployment in the private sector.

That's the plan. This way Obama can expand the healthcare law into a single payer system...which is what the whole thing is about anyway.
 
I still think they're digging their own graves, perception is everything and voters are going to get very tired of redneck Republicans thinking they are speaking for them.

Since you choose to use ethnic slurs against southerners...please tell us what your definition of a redneck is.

If your idea of getting dressed up is to take the hunting license tag off the back of your jacket...

...you might be a redneck.

If your pickup truck cost twice as much as your mobile home, but only half as much as your big screen TV,

...you might be a redneck.
 
Can't read much, can you?

It that's all you got, you ain't got much.
I can read just fine. Next time you link to a gop whine fest, try doing a little research first.


You can look up each one (all referenced by section and page #) in the text of the health care bill itself, to which I linked.

Which ones do not involve a new panel, review board, department program, or bureaucracy to out health care system?
Here, quit embarrassing yourself.
Another Republican charge is that the law creates 159 new boards and departments. A list has been circulating on the Internet for months. But there are only a handful of actual new entities, such as the Workforce Commission and the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation. Most are grant programs or demonstration projects that will be operated out of existing offices, sources said.


"Our department is well-positioned to use existing resources and staff to implement many of the provisions in the new law," said an HHS official. "We anticipate that a handful of new boards or commissions will be established, and many of these will be supported by existing staff, with existing resources. These entities are critical to ensuring we receive feedback from the public as we implement the new law. The notion that a massive new bureaucracy will be required for each provision simply is not credible."
Debate brews over IRS expansion
 
Is that why the IRS needs 16,500 more agents?

If you think the government is going to implement this mess without hiring more bureaucrats, you are deluded.
 
No one who walked through his office door has been refused treatment.

You're right, there's no evidence that they have.

I think the guy's a complete ass, but I can't see where what he did was wrong in any way other than being sheer stupidity with a touch of cynicism and a dose of nastiness. All of which can be dealt with by his patients and community in whatever way they see fit through their own speech.

If being stupid, cynical and nasty were a crime USMB would have nobody left to post. ;)

My point exactly...the guy exercised his right to free speech, pissed off Obama supporters, got some free publicity for his practice and more than likely got some new customers from among the 70% of Americans who don't like Obama's version of socialized medicine.

He made himself a fool to some and a hero to others.....

My opinion is laid out in a lot more detail a few pages back but there is something here that concerns me, seriously.

Assuming he's angry, frustrated, or whatever you want to call it over the HCR legislation and not doing this for other reasons, why take it out on his patients? Wrong audience, classless move, and really unprofessional IMO. More important, it speaks to a wider problem of people targeting each other with their anger while the usual suspects who actually make the laws keep getting reelected - and keep getting away with it.

Still doesn't mean he had no right to do it, but I do see it as a symptom of a bigger problem.
 
You're right, there's no evidence that they have.

I think the guy's a complete ass, but I can't see where what he did was wrong in any way other than being sheer stupidity with a touch of cynicism and a dose of nastiness. All of which can be dealt with by his patients and community in whatever way they see fit through their own speech.

If being stupid, cynical and nasty were a crime USMB would have nobody left to post. ;)

My point exactly...the guy exercised his right to free speech, pissed off Obama supporters, got some free publicity for his practice and more than likely got some new customers from among the 70% of Americans who don't like Obama's version of socialized medicine.

He made himself a fool to some and a hero to others.....

My opinion is laid out in a lot more detail a few pages back but there is something here that concerns me, seriously.

Assuming he's angry, frustrated, or whatever you want to call it over the HCR legislation and not doing this for other reasons, why take it out on his patients? Wrong audience, classless move, and really unprofessional IMO. More important, it speaks to a wider problem of people targeting each other with their anger while the usual suspects who actually make the laws keep getting reelected - and keep getting away with it.

Still doesn't mean he had no right to do it, but I do see it as a symptom of a bigger problem.

And what is this "bigger problem"?
 
My point exactly...the guy exercised his right to free speech, pissed off Obama supporters, got some free publicity for his practice and more than likely got some new customers from among the 70% of Americans who don't like Obama's version of socialized medicine.

He made himself a fool to some and a hero to others.....

My opinion is laid out in a lot more detail a few pages back but there is something here that concerns me, seriously.

Assuming he's angry, frustrated, or whatever you want to call it over the HCR legislation and not doing this for other reasons, why take it out on his patients? Wrong audience, classless move, and really unprofessional IMO. More important, it speaks to a wider problem of people targeting each other with their anger while the usual suspects who actually make the laws keep getting reelected - and keep getting away with it.

Still doesn't mean he had no right to do it, but I do see it as a symptom of a bigger problem.

And what is this "bigger problem"?

Apparently, reading comprehension.

I bolded it for ya though, thanks for letting me know you needed some help. Let me know if you need it broken down further. I'm always happy to oblige. ;)
 
I can read just fine. Next time you link to a gop whine fest, try doing a little research first.


You can look up each one (all referenced by section and page #) in the text of the health care bill itself, to which I linked.

Which ones do not involve a new panel, review board, department program, or bureaucracy to out health care system?
Here, quit embarrassing yourself.
Another Republican charge is that the law creates 159 new boards and departments. A list has been circulating on the Internet for months. But there are only a handful of actual new entities, such as the Workforce Commission and the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation. Most are grant programs or demonstration projects that will be operated out of existing offices, sources said.


"Our department is well-positioned to use existing resources and staff to implement many of the provisions in the new law," said an HHS official. "We anticipate that a handful of new boards or commissions will be established, and many of these will be supported by existing staff, with existing resources. These entities are critical to ensuring we receive feedback from the public as we implement the new law. The notion that a massive new bureaucracy will be required for each provision simply is not credible."
Debate brews over IRS expansion

sources said

An anonymous bureaucrat is going to tell us that more bureaucracies are not going to be created. Yeah, like I trust an Obama employee. About as much as I trusted a Bush employee, I suppose.

We anticipate

We anticipate... that is encouraging. When was the last time a government official came in under-budget? Forgive me if I don't take this anonymous official's word for it.

These entities are critical to ensuring we receive feedback from the public

As if they were listening to us a month ago! Whoever that anonymous official was, he/she is a frigging moron.

Immie
 
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My opinion is laid out in a lot more detail a few pages back but there is something here that concerns me, seriously.

Assuming he's angry, frustrated, or whatever you want to call it over the HCR legislation and not doing this for other reasons, why take it out on his patients? Wrong audience, classless move, and really unprofessional IMO. More important, it speaks to a wider problem of people targeting each other with their anger while the usual suspects who actually make the laws keep getting reelected - and keep getting away with it.

Still doesn't mean he had no right to do it, but I do see it as a symptom of a bigger problem.

And what is this "bigger problem"?

Apparently, reading comprehension.

I bolded it for ya though, thanks for letting me know you needed some help. Let me know if you need it broken down further. I'm always happy to oblige. ;)

That's it? Hell I thought you said there was a bigger problem.
 
And what is this "bigger problem"?

Apparently, reading comprehension.

I bolded it for ya though, thanks for letting me know you needed some help. Let me know if you need it broken down further. I'm always happy to oblige. ;)

That's it? Hell I thought you said there was a bigger problem.

Hell, if you like being a mindless sheep getting manipulated, divided and conquered by DC, then I guess you have no problem. As you were, brainiac. :thup:
 

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