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I have a question about their statement. Who is this mysterious 'they' that is constantly referred to? :lol:
 

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Dangerous Minds | First ‘official’ statement from the Occupy Wall Street movement

It claims to be the first official statement from the occupy wall street mob. Any truth to it? it doesnt seem to have much basis in reality...
OFFICIAL statement?

By whose authority?

Its somebody's statement, but does it speak for every protestor?

I seriously doubt it.

No wait, I know it does not.
Its because the protests lack any cohesion or single message. Free form protest seems like a good idea, but so far all they are doing is screwing up some park space, disrupting traffic, and making the NYPD concentrate less on actual crime in order to babysit them.

Why don't they try to take over the NYSE floor, or charge into some investment bank office? They would get arrested but they would get thier point across far more effectively.

The lack of spine of these protesters was summed up by the brooklyn bridge incident when they claimed NYPD told them to go on the roadway. What type of protester takes directons from the police?
 

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I care. I agree with about 80% of their punch-list.

I'll tell you what, when someone can explain to me why Corporate profits and CEO pay are at Record highs during a National & International Recession, I'll be a little less skeptical.

My company, for instance, is growing at 8% per year and is on a hiring freeze, making us work harder and our wages have been frozen for three years. They cite: "the economy," yet are in the Forbes 500, go on Fox Business touting success, and rang the opening "bell" a day in September.

But that's not just me. A HUGE hunk of the Middle Class work for Corporations and are afraid to leave because of job security/the economy. What does this mean? The Corporations can demand more and justify a wage freeze. The wage freeze, in turn, makes it more difficult to buy from Small Business (because small business means higher price because they don't have the producing power of a Corp.), and in-turn, taking away their own workers' buying power in this economy (the middle class), it keeps the rest of the economy's neck down under its boot.

This is not a game, this is real life. This is not politics, this is real life. This does not take one who's involved in Politics to see that Wage inequality is on a huge rise in this Country, and it doesn't take Rocket-Science to discover what that does to our ever-sensitive Economy.

Class war indeed. Job-creators are using their "job creation" status as a tool to manipulate the entire economy in their favor.

When you look at a chart of who owns the wealth in this Country, the balance is way off and unsustainable.

There's a fix for it, but people wouldn't like it and would call it facist or socialist or what have you.

If you cap CEO pay at a PERCENTAGE, then the CEO keeps the incentive to grow the Company because the bigger the Company, the bigger real wage his percentage becomes - - - and it also acts as a stop-gap measure for the Economy/Middle Class becoming way out of balance. A strong middle class is the back-bone of a good economy, and the wealth inequality occuring right now is the real issue.

The "occupy wallstreet" theme is the correct one, and it doesn't matter how many retards are in the crowd.
 

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Dangerous Minds | First ‘official’ statement from the Occupy Wall Street movement

It claims to be the first official statement from the occupy wall street mob. Any truth to it? it doesnt seem to have much basis in reality...
OFFICIAL statement?

By whose authority?

Its somebody's statement, but does it speak for every protestor?

I seriously doubt it.

No wait, I know it does not.
Its because the protests lack any cohesion or single message. Free form protest seems like a good idea, but so far all they are doing is screwing up some park space, disrupting traffic, and making the NYPD concentrate less on actual crime in order to babysit them.

Why don't they try to take over the NYSE floor, or charge into some investment bank office? They would get arrested but they would get thier point across far more effectively.

The lack of spine of these protesters was summed up by the brooklyn bridge incident when they claimed NYPD told them to go on the roadway. What type of protester takes directons from the police?
You mean the day 700 of them were arrested for disobeying?
 

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OFFICIAL statement?

By whose authority?

Its somebody's statement, but does it speak for every protestor?

I seriously doubt it.

No wait, I know it does not.
Its because the protests lack any cohesion or single message. Free form protest seems like a good idea, but so far all they are doing is screwing up some park space, disrupting traffic, and making the NYPD concentrate less on actual crime in order to babysit them.

Why don't they try to take over the NYSE floor, or charge into some investment bank office? They would get arrested but they would get thier point across far more effectively.

The lack of spine of these protesters was summed up by the brooklyn bridge incident when they claimed NYPD told them to go on the roadway. What type of protester takes directons from the police?
You mean the day 700 of them were arrested for disobeying?
And they whined the whole time about it. The idea of getting arrested is to show the system is doing something immoral, but at the same time taking the punishment given. You do the deed, get arrested, cool your jets in holding overnight, pay the fine and go right back out and do the same thing. Not complain that the freaking cops were the ones to tell you to do what you did and sue the NYPD for doing thier job.

I would have far more respect for these people (who I do not agree with) if they actually stormed the NYSE, or barricaded the entry points to all the investment banks and forced the NYPD to arrest them. This occupying a park thing just makes them look stupid.
 

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I care. I agree with about 80% of their punch-list.

I'll tell you what, when someone can explain to me why Corporate profits and CEO pay are at Record highs during a National & International Recession, I'll be a little less skeptical.

My company, for instance, is growing at 8% per year and is on a hiring freeze, making us work harder and our wages have been frozen for three years. They cite: "the economy," yet are in the Forbes 500, go on Fox Business touting success, and rang the opening "bell" a day in September.

But that's not just me. A HUGE hunk of the Middle Class work for Corporations and are afraid to leave because of job security/the economy. What does this mean? The Corporations can demand more and justify a wage freeze. The wage freeze, in turn, makes it more difficult to buy from Small Business (because small business means higher price because they don't have the producing power of a Corp.), and in-turn, taking away their own workers' buying power in this economy (the middle class), it keeps the rest of the economy's neck down under its boot.

This is not a game, this is real life. This is not politics, this is real life. This does not take one who's involved in Politics to see that Wage inequality is on a huge rise in this Country, and it doesn't take Rocket-Science to discover what that does to our ever-sensitive Economy.

Class war indeed. Job-creators are using their "job creation" status as a tool to manipulate the entire economy in their favor.

When you look at a chart of who owns the wealth in this Country, the balance is way off and unsustainable.

There's a fix for it, but people wouldn't like it and would call it facist or socialist or what have you.

If you cap CEO pay at a PERCENTAGE, then the CEO keeps the incentive to grow the Company because the bigger the Company, the bigger real wage his percentage becomes - - - and it also acts as a stop-gap measure for the Economy/Middle Class becoming way out of balance. A strong middle class is the back-bone of a good economy, and the wealth inequality occuring right now is the real issue.

The "occupy wallstreet" theme is the correct one, and it doesn't matter how many retards are in the crowd.
how in the hell could the federal government justify a cap on salaries given out by private organizations? That would be taking the commerce clause way too far.
 

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I care. I agree with about 80% of their punch-list.

I'll tell you what, when someone can explain to me why Corporate profits and CEO pay are at Record highs during a National & International Recession, I'll be a little less skeptical.

My company, for instance, is growing at 8% per year and is on a hiring freeze, making us work harder and our wages have been frozen for three years. They cite: "the economy," yet are in the Forbes 500, go on Fox Business touting success, and rang the opening "bell" a day in September.

But that's not just me. A HUGE hunk of the Middle Class work for Corporations and are afraid to leave because of job security/the economy. What does this mean? The Corporations can demand more and justify a wage freeze. The wage freeze, in turn, makes it more difficult to buy from Small Business (because small business means higher price because they don't have the producing power of a Corp.), and in-turn, taking away their own workers' buying power in this economy (the middle class), it keeps the rest of the economy's neck down under its boot.

This is not a game, this is real life. This is not politics, this is real life. This does not take one who's involved in Politics to see that Wage inequality is on a huge rise in this Country, and it doesn't take Rocket-Science to discover what that does to our ever-sensitive Economy.

Class war indeed. Job-creators are using their "job creation" status as a tool to manipulate the entire economy in their favor.

When you look at a chart of who owns the wealth in this Country, the balance is way off and unsustainable.

There's a fix for it, but people wouldn't like it and would call it facist or socialist or what have you.

If you cap CEO pay at a PERCENTAGE, then the CEO keeps the incentive to grow the Company because the bigger the Company, the bigger real wage his percentage becomes - - - and it also acts as a stop-gap measure for the Economy/Middle Class becoming way out of balance. A strong middle class is the back-bone of a good economy, and the wealth inequality occuring right now is the real issue.

The "occupy wallstreet" theme is the correct one, and it doesn't matter how many retards are in the crowd.
how in the hell could the federal government justify a cap on salaries given out by private organizations? That would be taking the commerce clause way too far.
The same way they made Monopolies illegal. It protects the Nation's Economy. Not all companies should have the Cap, either, just Corporatized Companies. Big difference.
 

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I care. I agree with about 80% of their punch-list.

I'll tell you what, when someone can explain to me why Corporate profits and CEO pay are at Record highs during a National & International Recession, I'll be a little less skeptical.

My company, for instance, is growing at 8% per year and is on a hiring freeze, making us work harder and our wages have been frozen for three years. They cite: "the economy," yet are in the Forbes 500, go on Fox Business touting success, and rang the opening "bell" a day in September.

But that's not just me. A HUGE hunk of the Middle Class work for Corporations and are afraid to leave because of job security/the economy. What does this mean? The Corporations can demand more and justify a wage freeze. The wage freeze, in turn, makes it more difficult to buy from Small Business (because small business means higher price because they don't have the producing power of a Corp.), and in-turn, taking away their own workers' buying power in this economy (the middle class), it keeps the rest of the economy's neck down under its boot.

This is not a game, this is real life. This is not politics, this is real life. This does not take one who's involved in Politics to see that Wage inequality is on a huge rise in this Country, and it doesn't take Rocket-Science to discover what that does to our ever-sensitive Economy.

Class war indeed. Job-creators are using their "job creation" status as a tool to manipulate the entire economy in their favor.

When you look at a chart of who owns the wealth in this Country, the balance is way off and unsustainable.

There's a fix for it, but people wouldn't like it and would call it facist or socialist or what have you.

If you cap CEO pay at a PERCENTAGE, then the CEO keeps the incentive to grow the Company because the bigger the Company, the bigger real wage his percentage becomes - - - and it also acts as a stop-gap measure for the Economy/Middle Class becoming way out of balance. A strong middle class is the back-bone of a good economy, and the wealth inequality occuring right now is the real issue.

The "occupy wallstreet" theme is the correct one, and it doesn't matter how many retards are in the crowd.
how in the hell could the federal government justify a cap on salaries given out by private organizations? That would be taking the commerce clause way too far.
The same way they made Monopolies illegal. It protects the Nation's Economy. Not all companies should have the Cap, either, just Corporatized Companies. Big difference.
The day you do that you might as well ring the death knell for a free market economy. Once they can set maximum rates of compensation to a completely private firm, they can set all the rates of compensation.

I have a deal. you agree to let me set your income rate based on what I think you should make, and then you can set a CEO's rate to what you think THEY should make.
 

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All these idiots should be in DC not Wall St.

Where regs are made and dissolved.

Where all the Clowns we elect were supposed to be ovrsite to prevent what happened.

They are just pissing up a rope on Wall St.

Morons.
 

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how in the hell could the federal government justify a cap on salaries given out by private organizations? That would be taking the commerce clause way too far.
The same way they made Monopolies illegal. It protects the Nation's Economy. Not all companies should have the Cap, either, just Corporatized Companies. Big difference.
The day you do that you might as well ring the death knell for a free market economy. Once they can set maximum rates of compensation to a completely private firm, they can set all the rates of compensation.

I have a deal. you agree to let me set your income rate based on what I think you should make, and then you can set a CEO's rate to what you think THEY should make.
Yea, see, here's the problem. You obviously don't know the difference between being Corporatized and being a private Company.

A coporation is a publicly traded company, which comes with rules to begin with.

Nothing would happen to the economy except it would get instantly better. How? Wages for the entire middle class would increase, and CEO's would also be seeking ways to increase their company's profitability so-as to increase their pay still, as they always have. Meanwhile, we don't have this Recession because middle-class buying power has dried up and been forfeited to RECORD CEO PAY AND RECORD CORPORATE PROFITS.

If you sit in your chair and defend what's happening to the middle and lower class and all you feel in your heart is protectionist spirit for "Corporations," then you're bought/caught, hook line and sinker.

You think the Economy is bad because Corporations are being squeezed/over-regulated? Explain their record profits and record pay/bonuses, then, genius.
 

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All these idiots should be in DC not Wall St.

Where regs are made and dissolved.

Where all the Clowns we elect were supposed to be ovrsite to prevent what happened.

They are just pissing up a rope on Wall St.

Morons.
The reason DC didn't prevent what happened is because they are in Wallstreet's pockets. And as you piss and moan about Bush/Obama/whoever while simultaneously protecting Wallstreet/Corporations involved, you're sadly the one pissing up a rope because they are ONE IN THE SAME. Welcome to America.
 

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The same way they made Monopolies illegal. It protects the Nation's Economy. Not all companies should have the Cap, either, just Corporatized Companies. Big difference.
The day you do that you might as well ring the death knell for a free market economy. Once they can set maximum rates of compensation to a completely private firm, they can set all the rates of compensation.

I have a deal. you agree to let me set your income rate based on what I think you should make, and then you can set a CEO's rate to what you think THEY should make.
Yea, see, here's the problem. You obviously don't know the difference between being Corporatized and being a private Company.

A coporation is a publicly traded company, which comes with rules to begin with.

Nothing would happen to the economy except it would get instantly better. How? Wages for the entire middle class would increase, and CEO's would also be seeking ways to increase their company's profitability so-as to increase their pay still, as they always have. Meanwhile, we don't have this Recession because middle-class buying power has dried up and been forfeited to RECORD CEO PAY AND RECORD CORPORATE PROFITS.

If you sit in your chair and defend what's happening to the middle and lower class and all you feel in your heart is protectionist spirit for "Corporations," then you're bought/caught, hook line and sinker.

You think the Economy is bad because Corporations are being squeezed/over-regulated? Explain their record profits and record pay/bonuses, then, genius.
A coporation is a publicly traded company, which comes with rules to begin with.


:lmao: I bet you want credit for only a partially correct answer because the full answer kills your own rant.

Kelloggs is looking for you.
 

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