First majority Muslim city council in America

[Coyote]

Most American Muslims are like most American Christians - the believe in the Constitution. I strongly suspect you'll find that with Sunni as well.

there are people who "BELIEVE IN THE CONSTITUTION" ?? I do not understand the statement -----they worship the constitution? They worship President Madison as a "god"????

Belief doesn't equal worship. Nice try though

your response is meaningless.

Do you believe in gravity?
Do you worship it?

Do you believe the sun rises every day?
Do you worship the sun?

Not trying to be nasty - the sun is perfectly good to worship - it's reliable, brings warmth, brightens the day...

Do you believe that we should pay our taxes?
Do you worship taxes?

Who's your god? Gravity? Sun? Taxes?

You are describing physical objects.
"believing" in the constitution of the USA means acceptance of its details
which----are, in fact, in specific contradiction to many of the details of shariah
law. Several Islamic countries VERY SPECIFICALLY include as a detail of
their civil codes that they accept NOTHING which contradicts THE KORAN----shariah law is nothing less than the interpretation of the koran by recognized
koranic scholars. Koranic scholars do not "believe" in the US constitution,
they "believe" in the koran as the eternal and divine SINGLE TRUTH

"Believing" in something means many different things.

It does not necessarily mean worshipping a diety.

One can be a Muslim (or Jew or Christian) and also believe in the values and rights given in the Constitution. It's not rocket science.

 

[irosie91]

there are people who "BELIEVE IN THE CONSTITUTION" ?? I do not understand the statement -----they worship the constitution? They worship President Madison as a "god"????

Belief doesn't equal worship. Nice try though

your response is meaningless.

Do you believe in gravity?
Do you worship it?

Do you believe the sun rises every day?
Do you worship the sun?

Not trying to be nasty - the sun is perfectly good to worship - it's reliable, brings warmth, brightens the day...

Do you believe that we should pay our taxes?
Do you worship taxes?

Who's your god? Gravity? Sun? Taxes?

You are describing physical objects.
"believing" in the constitution of the USA means acceptance of its details
which----are, in fact, in specific contradiction to many of the details of shariah
law. Several Islamic countries VERY SPECIFICALLY include as a detail of
their civil codes that they accept NOTHING which contradicts THE KORAN----shariah law is nothing less than the interpretation of the koran by recognized
koranic scholars. Koranic scholars do not "believe" in the US constitution,
they "believe" in the koran as the eternal and divine SINGLE TRUTH

"Believing" in something means many different things.

It does not necessarily mean worshipping a diety.

One can be a Muslim (or Jew or Christian) and also believe in the values and rights given in the Constitution. It's not rocket science.

the constitution of the United States IS NOT consistent with shariah law. It is not INCONSISTENT with any system of law to which the vast majority of Christians and jews adhere. It's not rocket science

 

[Coyote]

Belief doesn't equal worship. Nice try though

your response is meaningless.

Do you believe in gravity?
Do you worship it?

Do you believe the sun rises every day?
Do you worship the sun?

Not trying to be nasty - the sun is perfectly good to worship - it's reliable, brings warmth, brightens the day...

Do you believe that we should pay our taxes?
Do you worship taxes?

Who's your god? Gravity? Sun? Taxes?

You are describing physical objects.
"believing" in the constitution of the USA means acceptance of its details
which----are, in fact, in specific contradiction to many of the details of shariah
law. Several Islamic countries VERY SPECIFICALLY include as a detail of
their civil codes that they accept NOTHING which contradicts THE KORAN----shariah law is nothing less than the interpretation of the koran by recognized
koranic scholars. Koranic scholars do not "believe" in the US constitution,
they "believe" in the koran as the eternal and divine SINGLE TRUTH

"Believing" in something means many different things.

It does not necessarily mean worshipping a diety.

One can be a Muslim (or Jew or Christian) and also believe in the values and rights given in the Constitution. It's not rocket science.

the constitution of the United States IS NOT consistent with shariah law. It is not INCONSISTENT with any system of law to which the vast majority of Christians and jews adhere. It's not rocket science

It's not consistent with Rabbinical law either..or the Bible...so what?

 

[irosie91]

your response is meaningless.

Do you believe in gravity?
Do you worship it?

Do you believe the sun rises every day?
Do you worship the sun?

Not trying to be nasty - the sun is perfectly good to worship - it's reliable, brings warmth, brightens the day...

Do you believe that we should pay our taxes?
Do you worship taxes?

Who's your god? Gravity? Sun? Taxes?

You are describing physical objects.
"believing" in the constitution of the USA means acceptance of its details
which----are, in fact, in specific contradiction to many of the details of shariah
law. Several Islamic countries VERY SPECIFICALLY include as a detail of
their civil codes that they accept NOTHING which contradicts THE KORAN----shariah law is nothing less than the interpretation of the koran by recognized
koranic scholars. Koranic scholars do not "believe" in the US constitution,
they "believe" in the koran as the eternal and divine SINGLE TRUTH

"Believing" in something means many different things.

It does not necessarily mean worshipping a diety.

One can be a Muslim (or Jew or Christian) and also believe in the values and rights given in the Constitution. It's not rocket science.

the constitution of the United States IS NOT consistent with shariah law. It is not INCONSISTENT with any system of law to which the vast majority of Christians and jews adhere. It's not rocket science

It's not consistent with Rabbinical law either..or the Bible...so what?

wrong-----it is compatible with rabbinical law----obviously not "the same" ---
but not incompatible The law derived from the bible , like the law
derived from the koran -----is determined by the respective scholars thereof.
You are relying on wishful thinking

 

[Coyote]

Do you believe in gravity?
Do you worship it?

Do you believe the sun rises every day?
Do you worship the sun?

Not trying to be nasty - the sun is perfectly good to worship - it's reliable, brings warmth, brightens the day...

Do you believe that we should pay our taxes?
Do you worship taxes?

Who's your god? Gravity? Sun? Taxes?

You are describing physical objects.
"believing" in the constitution of the USA means acceptance of its details
which----are, in fact, in specific contradiction to many of the details of shariah
law. Several Islamic countries VERY SPECIFICALLY include as a detail of
their civil codes that they accept NOTHING which contradicts THE KORAN----shariah law is nothing less than the interpretation of the koran by recognized
koranic scholars. Koranic scholars do not "believe" in the US constitution,
they "believe" in the koran as the eternal and divine SINGLE TRUTH

"Believing" in something means many different things.

It does not necessarily mean worshipping a diety.

One can be a Muslim (or Jew or Christian) and also believe in the values and rights given in the Constitution. It's not rocket science.

the constitution of the United States IS NOT consistent with shariah law. It is not INCONSISTENT with any system of law to which the vast majority of Christians and jews adhere. It's not rocket science

It's not consistent with Rabbinical law either..or the Bible...so what?

wrong-----it is compatible with rabbinical law----obviously not "the same" ---
but not incompatible The law derived from the bible , like the law
derived from the koran -----is determined by the respective scholars thereof.
You are relying on wishful thinking

Doesn't seem very compatible to me.

Capital and corporal punishment in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Punishment by Sekila (stoning)
See also: Stoning § In Judaism

• Intercourse between a man and his mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father's wife (not necessarily his mother).
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter in law.
• Intercourse with another man's wife from the first stage of marriage.
• Intercourse between two men.
• Bestiality.
• Cursing the name of God in God's name.
• Idol Worship.
• Giving one's progeny to Molech (child sacrifice).
• Necromantic Sorcery.
• Pythonic Sorcery.
• Attempting to convince another to worship idols.
• Instigating a community to worship idols.
• Witchcraft.
• Violating the Sabbath.
• Cursing one's own parent.
• A stubborn and rebellious son.

Punishment by Serefah (burning)

• The daughter of a priest who completed the second stage of marriage commits adultery.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter (not necessarily his own daughter).
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law's mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father in law's mother.

Punishment by Hereg (beheading)

• Unlawful premeditated murder.
• Being a member of a city that has gone astray.

Punishment by Chenek (strangulation)

• Committing adultery with another man's wife, where it doesn't fall under the above criteria.
• Wounding one's own parent.
• Kidnapping another member of Israel.
• Prophesizing falsely.
• Prophesizing in the name of other deities.
• A sage who is guilty of insubordination in front of the grand court in the Chamber of the Hewn Stone.

 

[longknife]

Diversion, deflection, and downright lies to defend the barbarism and thugs who practice.

No surprise. It can't be defended.

 

[Mudda]

You are describing physical objects.
"believing" in the constitution of the USA means acceptance of its details
which----are, in fact, in specific contradiction to many of the details of shariah
law. Several Islamic countries VERY SPECIFICALLY include as a detail of
their civil codes that they accept NOTHING which contradicts THE KORAN----shariah law is nothing less than the interpretation of the koran by recognized
koranic scholars. Koranic scholars do not "believe" in the US constitution,
they "believe" in the koran as the eternal and divine SINGLE TRUTH

"Believing" in something means many different things.

It does not necessarily mean worshipping a diety.

One can be a Muslim (or Jew or Christian) and also believe in the values and rights given in the Constitution. It's not rocket science.

the constitution of the United States IS NOT consistent with shariah law. It is not INCONSISTENT with any system of law to which the vast majority of Christians and jews adhere. It's not rocket science

It's not consistent with Rabbinical law either..or the Bible...so what?

wrong-----it is compatible with rabbinical law----obviously not "the same" ---
but not incompatible The law derived from the bible , like the law
derived from the koran -----is determined by the respective scholars thereof.
You are relying on wishful thinking

Doesn't seem very compatible to me.

Capital and corporal punishment in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Punishment by Sekila (stoning)
See also: Stoning § In Judaism

• Intercourse between a man and his mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father's wife (not necessarily his mother).
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter in law.
• Intercourse with another man's wife from the first stage of marriage.
• Intercourse between two men.
• Bestiality.
• Cursing the name of God in God's name.
• Idol Worship.
• Giving one's progeny to Molech (child sacrifice).
• Necromantic Sorcery.
• Pythonic Sorcery.
• Attempting to convince another to worship idols.
• Instigating a community to worship idols.
• Witchcraft.
• Violating the Sabbath.
• Cursing one's own parent.
• A stubborn and rebellious son.

Punishment by Serefah (burning)

• The daughter of a priest who completed the second stage of marriage commits adultery.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter (not necessarily his own daughter).
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law's mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father in law's mother.

Punishment by Hereg (beheading)

• Unlawful premeditated murder.
• Being a member of a city that has gone astray.

Punishment by Chenek (strangulation)

• Committing adultery with another man's wife, where it doesn't fall under the above criteria.
• Wounding one's own parent.
• Kidnapping another member of Israel.
• Prophesizing falsely.
• Prophesizing in the name of other deities.
• A sage who is guilty of insubordination in front of the grand court in the Chamber of the Hewn Stone.

The big difference is that Jews and Christians no longer abide by the savagery of their books, Muslims still do. BIG difference.

 

[Coyote]

"Believing" in something means many different things.

It does not necessarily mean worshipping a diety.

One can be a Muslim (or Jew or Christian) and also believe in the values and rights given in the Constitution. It's not rocket science.

the constitution of the United States IS NOT consistent with shariah law. It is not INCONSISTENT with any system of law to which the vast majority of Christians and jews adhere. It's not rocket science

It's not consistent with Rabbinical law either..or the Bible...so what?

wrong-----it is compatible with rabbinical law----obviously not "the same" ---
but not incompatible The law derived from the bible , like the law
derived from the koran -----is determined by the respective scholars thereof.
You are relying on wishful thinking

Doesn't seem very compatible to me.

Capital and corporal punishment in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Punishment by Sekila (stoning)
See also: Stoning § In Judaism

• Intercourse between a man and his mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father's wife (not necessarily his mother).
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter in law.
• Intercourse with another man's wife from the first stage of marriage.
• Intercourse between two men.
• Bestiality.
• Cursing the name of God in God's name.
• Idol Worship.
• Giving one's progeny to Molech (child sacrifice).
• Necromantic Sorcery.
• Pythonic Sorcery.
• Attempting to convince another to worship idols.
• Instigating a community to worship idols.
• Witchcraft.
• Violating the Sabbath.
• Cursing one's own parent.
• A stubborn and rebellious son.

Punishment by Serefah (burning)

• The daughter of a priest who completed the second stage of marriage commits adultery.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter (not necessarily his own daughter).
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law's mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father in law's mother.

Punishment by Hereg (beheading)

• Unlawful premeditated murder.
• Being a member of a city that has gone astray.

Punishment by Chenek (strangulation)

• Committing adultery with another man's wife, where it doesn't fall under the above criteria.
• Wounding one's own parent.
• Kidnapping another member of Israel.
• Prophesizing falsely.
• Prophesizing in the name of other deities.
• A sage who is guilty of insubordination in front of the grand court in the Chamber of the Hewn Stone.

The big difference is that Jews and Christians no longer abide by the savagery of their books, Muslims still do. BIG difference.

Depends on the culture.

Either way - it doesn't alter whether or not a religion's law is compatible with the Constitution. As you can see, there is little difference.

 

[irosie91]

"Believing" in something means many different things.

It does not necessarily mean worshipping a diety.

One can be a Muslim (or Jew or Christian) and also believe in the values and rights given in the Constitution. It's not rocket science.

the constitution of the United States IS NOT consistent with shariah law. It is not INCONSISTENT with any system of law to which the vast majority of Christians and jews adhere. It's not rocket science

It's not consistent with Rabbinical law either..or the Bible...so what?

wrong-----it is compatible with rabbinical law----obviously not "the same" ---
but not incompatible The law derived from the bible , like the law
derived from the koran -----is determined by the respective scholars thereof.
You are relying on wishful thinking

Doesn't seem very compatible to me.

Capital and corporal punishment in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Punishment by Sekila (stoning)
See also: Stoning § In Judaism

• Intercourse between a man and his mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father's wife (not necessarily his mother).
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter in law.
• Intercourse with another man's wife from the first stage of marriage.
• Intercourse between two men.
• Bestiality.
• Cursing the name of God in God's name.
• Idol Worship.
• Giving one's progeny to Molech (child sacrifice).
• Necromantic Sorcery.
• Pythonic Sorcery.
• Attempting to convince another to worship idols.
• Instigating a community to worship idols.
• Witchcraft.
• Violating the Sabbath.
• Cursing one's own parent.
• A stubborn and rebellious son.

Punishment by Serefah (burning)

• The daughter of a priest who completed the second stage of marriage commits adultery.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter (not necessarily his own daughter).
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law's mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father in law's mother.

Punishment by Hereg (beheading)

• Unlawful premeditated murder.
• Being a member of a city that has gone astray.

Punishment by Chenek (strangulation)

• Committing adultery with another man's wife, where it doesn't fall under the above criteria.
• Wounding one's own parent.
• Kidnapping another member of Israel.
• Prophesizing falsely.
• Prophesizing in the name of other deities.
• A sage who is guilty of insubordination in front of the grand court in the Chamber of the Hewn Stone.

The big difference is that Jews and Christians no longer abide by the savagery of their books, Muslims still do. BIG difference.

You are describing physical objects.
"believing" in the constitution of the USA means acceptance of its details
which----are, in fact, in specific contradiction to many of the details of shariah
law. Several Islamic countries VERY SPECIFICALLY include as a detail of
their civil codes that they accept NOTHING which contradicts THE KORAN----shariah law is nothing less than the interpretation of the koran by recognized
koranic scholars. Koranic scholars do not "believe" in the US constitution,
they "believe" in the koran as the eternal and divine SINGLE TRUTH

"Believing" in something means many different things.

It does not necessarily mean worshipping a diety.

One can be a Muslim (or Jew or Christian) and also believe in the values and rights given in the Constitution. It's not rocket science.

the constitution of the United States IS NOT consistent with shariah law. It is not INCONSISTENT with any system of law to which the vast majority of Christians and jews adhere. It's not rocket science

It's not consistent with Rabbinical law either..or the Bible...so what?

wrong-----it is compatible with rabbinical law----obviously not "the same" ---
but not incompatible The law derived from the bible , like the law
derived from the koran -----is determined by the respective scholars thereof.
You are relying on wishful thinking

Doesn't seem very compatible to me.

Capital and corporal punishment in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Punishment by Sekila (stoning)
See also: Stoning § In Judaism

• Intercourse between a man and his mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father's wife (not necessarily his mother).
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter in law.
• Intercourse with another man's wife from the first stage of marriage.
• Intercourse between two men.
• Bestiality.
• Cursing the name of God in God's name.
• Idol Worship.
• Giving one's progeny to Molech (child sacrifice).
• Necromantic Sorcery.
• Pythonic Sorcery.
• Attempting to convince another to worship idols.
• Instigating a community to worship idols.
• Witchcraft.
• Violating the Sabbath.
• Cursing one's own parent.
• A stubborn and rebellious son.

Punishment by Serefah (burning)

• The daughter of a priest who completed the second stage of marriage commits adultery.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter (not necessarily his own daughter).
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law's mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father in law's mother.

Punishment by Hereg (beheading)

• Unlawful premeditated murder.
• Being a member of a city that has gone astray.

Punishment by Chenek (strangulation)

• Committing adultery with another man's wife, where it doesn't fall under the above criteria.
• Wounding one's own parent.
• Kidnapping another member of Israel.
• Prophesizing falsely.
• Prophesizing in the name of other deities.
• A sage who is guilty of insubordination in front of the grand court in the Chamber of the Hewn Stone.

wrong again Coyote----there is a principle of jewish jurisprudence
that you are ignoring-------the PENALTIES CANNOT BE EXCEEDED
BUT THEY CAN AND ALWAYS CAN BE REDUCED------you listed only the
MAXIMUMS. By actual edicts and customs whole categories of
penalties were reduced-----virtually all the time,,, regularly. Fret not---
you hold a very commonly held misconception. Islamic law REQUIRES
the maximum penalty ---In fact ---by memory I recall that principle
actually emphasized by big MO himself-----presented in what is supposed
to be something like case-law----------some guy gets stoned for adultery
whereas by that time stoning for adultery was outmoded in jewish
jurisprudence. It was a kind of cautionary tale. Do not ask
me for chapter and verse

 

[irosie91]

I will help you understand a bit more, dear coyote------if rabbinical law was anything like Shariah------Israel could never have done away with capital punishment-----
you hear rabbis screaming?

 

[Coyote]

the constitution of the United States IS NOT consistent with shariah law. It is not INCONSISTENT with any system of law to which the vast majority of Christians and jews adhere. It's not rocket science

It's not consistent with Rabbinical law either..or the Bible...so what?

wrong-----it is compatible with rabbinical law----obviously not "the same" ---
but not incompatible The law derived from the bible , like the law
derived from the koran -----is determined by the respective scholars thereof.
You are relying on wishful thinking

Doesn't seem very compatible to me.

Capital and corporal punishment in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Punishment by Sekila (stoning)
See also: Stoning § In Judaism

• Intercourse between a man and his mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father's wife (not necessarily his mother).
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter in law.
• Intercourse with another man's wife from the first stage of marriage.
• Intercourse between two men.
• Bestiality.
• Cursing the name of God in God's name.
• Idol Worship.
• Giving one's progeny to Molech (child sacrifice).
• Necromantic Sorcery.
• Pythonic Sorcery.
• Attempting to convince another to worship idols.
• Instigating a community to worship idols.
• Witchcraft.
• Violating the Sabbath.
• Cursing one's own parent.
• A stubborn and rebellious son.

Punishment by Serefah (burning)

• The daughter of a priest who completed the second stage of marriage commits adultery.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter (not necessarily his own daughter).
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law's mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father in law's mother.

Punishment by Hereg (beheading)

• Unlawful premeditated murder.
• Being a member of a city that has gone astray.

Punishment by Chenek (strangulation)

• Committing adultery with another man's wife, where it doesn't fall under the above criteria.
• Wounding one's own parent.
• Kidnapping another member of Israel.
• Prophesizing falsely.
• Prophesizing in the name of other deities.
• A sage who is guilty of insubordination in front of the grand court in the Chamber of the Hewn Stone.

The big difference is that Jews and Christians no longer abide by the savagery of their books, Muslims still do. BIG difference.

"Believing" in something means many different things.

It does not necessarily mean worshipping a diety.

One can be a Muslim (or Jew or Christian) and also believe in the values and rights given in the Constitution. It's not rocket science.

the constitution of the United States IS NOT consistent with shariah law. It is not INCONSISTENT with any system of law to which the vast majority of Christians and jews adhere. It's not rocket science

It's not consistent with Rabbinical law either..or the Bible...so what?

wrong-----it is compatible with rabbinical law----obviously not "the same" ---
but not incompatible The law derived from the bible , like the law
derived from the koran -----is determined by the respective scholars thereof.
You are relying on wishful thinking

Doesn't seem very compatible to me.

Capital and corporal punishment in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Punishment by Sekila (stoning)
See also: Stoning § In Judaism

• Intercourse between a man and his mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father's wife (not necessarily his mother).
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter in law.
• Intercourse with another man's wife from the first stage of marriage.
• Intercourse between two men.
• Bestiality.
• Cursing the name of God in God's name.
• Idol Worship.
• Giving one's progeny to Molech (child sacrifice).
• Necromantic Sorcery.
• Pythonic Sorcery.
• Attempting to convince another to worship idols.
• Instigating a community to worship idols.
• Witchcraft.
• Violating the Sabbath.
• Cursing one's own parent.
• A stubborn and rebellious son.

Punishment by Serefah (burning)

• The daughter of a priest who completed the second stage of marriage commits adultery.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter (not necessarily his own daughter).
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law's mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father in law's mother.

Punishment by Hereg (beheading)

• Unlawful premeditated murder.
• Being a member of a city that has gone astray.

Punishment by Chenek (strangulation)

• Committing adultery with another man's wife, where it doesn't fall under the above criteria.
• Wounding one's own parent.
• Kidnapping another member of Israel.
• Prophesizing falsely.
• Prophesizing in the name of other deities.
• A sage who is guilty of insubordination in front of the grand court in the Chamber of the Hewn Stone.

wrong again Coyote----there is a principle of jewish jurisprudence
that you are ignoring-------the PENALTIES CANNOT BE EXCEEDED
BUT THEY CAN AND ALWAYS CAN BE REDUCED------you listed only the
MAXIMUMS. By actual edicts and customs whole categories of
penalties were reduced-----virtually all the time,,, regularly. Fret not---
you hold a very commonly held misconception. Islamic law REQUIRES
the maximum penalty ---In fact ---by memory I recall that principle
actually emphasized by big MO himself-----presented in what is supposed
to be something like case-law----------some guy gets stoned for adultery
whereas by that time stoning for adultery was outmoded in jewish
jurisprudence. It was a kind of cautionary tale. Do not ask
me for chapter and verse

The Jewish law, as written is as incompatible with the Constitution as Sharia.

Do you have a source for your claim on Islamic jurisprudence?

 

[Coyote]

I will help you understand a bit more, dear coyote------if rabbinical law was anything like Shariah------Israel could never have done away with capital punishment-----
you hear rabbis screaming?

Israel is not run under religious criminal law.

 

[irosie91]

It's not consistent with Rabbinical law either..or the Bible...so what?

wrong-----it is compatible with rabbinical law----obviously not "the same" ---
but not incompatible The law derived from the bible , like the law
derived from the koran -----is determined by the respective scholars thereof.
You are relying on wishful thinking

Doesn't seem very compatible to me.

Capital and corporal punishment in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Punishment by Sekila (stoning)
See also: Stoning § In Judaism

• Intercourse between a man and his mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father's wife (not necessarily his mother).
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter in law.
• Intercourse with another man's wife from the first stage of marriage.
• Intercourse between two men.
• Bestiality.
• Cursing the name of God in God's name.
• Idol Worship.
• Giving one's progeny to Molech (child sacrifice).
• Necromantic Sorcery.
• Pythonic Sorcery.
• Attempting to convince another to worship idols.
• Instigating a community to worship idols.
• Witchcraft.
• Violating the Sabbath.
• Cursing one's own parent.
• A stubborn and rebellious son.

Punishment by Serefah (burning)

• The daughter of a priest who completed the second stage of marriage commits adultery.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter (not necessarily his own daughter).
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law's mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father in law's mother.

Punishment by Hereg (beheading)

• Unlawful premeditated murder.
• Being a member of a city that has gone astray.

Punishment by Chenek (strangulation)

• Committing adultery with another man's wife, where it doesn't fall under the above criteria.
• Wounding one's own parent.
• Kidnapping another member of Israel.
• Prophesizing falsely.
• Prophesizing in the name of other deities.
• A sage who is guilty of insubordination in front of the grand court in the Chamber of the Hewn Stone.

The big difference is that Jews and Christians no longer abide by the savagery of their books, Muslims still do. BIG difference.

the constitution of the United States IS NOT consistent with shariah law. It is not INCONSISTENT with any system of law to which the vast majority of Christians and jews adhere. It's not rocket science

It's not consistent with Rabbinical law either..or the Bible...so what?

wrong-----it is compatible with rabbinical law----obviously not "the same" ---
but not incompatible The law derived from the bible , like the law
derived from the koran -----is determined by the respective scholars thereof.
You are relying on wishful thinking

Doesn't seem very compatible to me.

Capital and corporal punishment in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Punishment by Sekila (stoning)
See also: Stoning § In Judaism

• Intercourse between a man and his mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father's wife (not necessarily his mother).
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter in law.
• Intercourse with another man's wife from the first stage of marriage.
• Intercourse between two men.
• Bestiality.
• Cursing the name of God in God's name.
• Idol Worship.
• Giving one's progeny to Molech (child sacrifice).
• Necromantic Sorcery.
• Pythonic Sorcery.
• Attempting to convince another to worship idols.
• Instigating a community to worship idols.
• Witchcraft.
• Violating the Sabbath.
• Cursing one's own parent.
• A stubborn and rebellious son.

Punishment by Serefah (burning)

• The daughter of a priest who completed the second stage of marriage commits adultery.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter (not necessarily his own daughter).
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law's mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father in law's mother.

Punishment by Hereg (beheading)

• Unlawful premeditated murder.
• Being a member of a city that has gone astray.

Punishment by Chenek (strangulation)

• Committing adultery with another man's wife, where it doesn't fall under the above criteria.
• Wounding one's own parent.
• Kidnapping another member of Israel.
• Prophesizing falsely.
• Prophesizing in the name of other deities.
• A sage who is guilty of insubordination in front of the grand court in the Chamber of the Hewn Stone.

wrong again Coyote----there is a principle of jewish jurisprudence
that you are ignoring-------the PENALTIES CANNOT BE EXCEEDED
BUT THEY CAN AND ALWAYS CAN BE REDUCED------you listed only the
MAXIMUMS. By actual edicts and customs whole categories of
penalties were reduced-----virtually all the time,,, regularly. Fret not---
you hold a very commonly held misconception. Islamic law REQUIRES
the maximum penalty ---In fact ---by memory I recall that principle
actually emphasized by big MO himself-----presented in what is supposed
to be something like case-law----------some guy gets stoned for adultery
whereas by that time stoning for adultery was outmoded in jewish
jurisprudence. It was a kind of cautionary tale. Do not ask
me for chapter and verse

The Jewish law, as written is as incompatible with the Constitution as Sharia.

Do you have a source for your claim on Islamic jurisprudence?

Sheeesh Have you ever been in a law library? ever see the term
"case-law" it comes in journals that get turned into tomes -----very much
like the Talmud was elaborated. Lawyers use those tomes all the time
(the case -law ones-----not the Talmud) My claim on Islamic jurisprudence
comes from muslims I have known----like hundreds of them and people who
have lived in shariah ---uhm---well you know what-----I also cited a little story
formed like a parable ----of the BIG MO insisting on THE MAX as a matter
of PIETY. I have cited the FACT ---that Israel did away with capital
punishment without a murmur from the "black hats" -------you want more?
I will remain attentive to your unreasonable demands

 

[irosie91]

I will help you understand a bit more, dear coyote------if rabbinical law was anything like Shariah------Israel could never have done away with capital punishment-----
you hear rabbis screaming?

Israel is not run under religious criminal law.

you have never interacted with those black hats----have you?

 

[Coyote]

wrong-----it is compatible with rabbinical law----obviously not "the same" ---
but not incompatible The law derived from the bible , like the law
derived from the koran -----is determined by the respective scholars thereof.
You are relying on wishful thinking

Doesn't seem very compatible to me.

Capital and corporal punishment in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Punishment by Sekila (stoning)
See also: Stoning § In Judaism

• Intercourse between a man and his mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father's wife (not necessarily his mother).
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter in law.
• Intercourse with another man's wife from the first stage of marriage.
• Intercourse between two men.
• Bestiality.
• Cursing the name of God in God's name.
• Idol Worship.
• Giving one's progeny to Molech (child sacrifice).
• Necromantic Sorcery.
• Pythonic Sorcery.
• Attempting to convince another to worship idols.
• Instigating a community to worship idols.
• Witchcraft.
• Violating the Sabbath.
• Cursing one's own parent.
• A stubborn and rebellious son.

Punishment by Serefah (burning)

• The daughter of a priest who completed the second stage of marriage commits adultery.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter (not necessarily his own daughter).
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law's mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father in law's mother.

Punishment by Hereg (beheading)

• Unlawful premeditated murder.
• Being a member of a city that has gone astray.

Punishment by Chenek (strangulation)

• Committing adultery with another man's wife, where it doesn't fall under the above criteria.
• Wounding one's own parent.
• Kidnapping another member of Israel.
• Prophesizing falsely.
• Prophesizing in the name of other deities.
• A sage who is guilty of insubordination in front of the grand court in the Chamber of the Hewn Stone.

The big difference is that Jews and Christians no longer abide by the savagery of their books, Muslims still do. BIG difference.

It's not consistent with Rabbinical law either..or the Bible...so what?

wrong-----it is compatible with rabbinical law----obviously not "the same" ---
but not incompatible The law derived from the bible , like the law
derived from the koran -----is determined by the respective scholars thereof.
You are relying on wishful thinking

Doesn't seem very compatible to me.

Capital and corporal punishment in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Punishment by Sekila (stoning)
See also: Stoning § In Judaism

• Intercourse between a man and his mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father's wife (not necessarily his mother).
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter in law.
• Intercourse with another man's wife from the first stage of marriage.
• Intercourse between two men.
• Bestiality.
• Cursing the name of God in God's name.
• Idol Worship.
• Giving one's progeny to Molech (child sacrifice).
• Necromantic Sorcery.
• Pythonic Sorcery.
• Attempting to convince another to worship idols.
• Instigating a community to worship idols.
• Witchcraft.
• Violating the Sabbath.
• Cursing one's own parent.
• A stubborn and rebellious son.

Punishment by Serefah (burning)

• The daughter of a priest who completed the second stage of marriage commits adultery.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter (not necessarily his own daughter).
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law's mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father in law's mother.

Punishment by Hereg (beheading)

• Unlawful premeditated murder.
• Being a member of a city that has gone astray.

Punishment by Chenek (strangulation)

• Committing adultery with another man's wife, where it doesn't fall under the above criteria.
• Wounding one's own parent.
• Kidnapping another member of Israel.
• Prophesizing falsely.
• Prophesizing in the name of other deities.
• A sage who is guilty of insubordination in front of the grand court in the Chamber of the Hewn Stone.

wrong again Coyote----there is a principle of jewish jurisprudence
that you are ignoring-------the PENALTIES CANNOT BE EXCEEDED
BUT THEY CAN AND ALWAYS CAN BE REDUCED------you listed only the
MAXIMUMS. By actual edicts and customs whole categories of
penalties were reduced-----virtually all the time,,, regularly. Fret not---
you hold a very commonly held misconception. Islamic law REQUIRES
the maximum penalty ---In fact ---by memory I recall that principle
actually emphasized by big MO himself-----presented in what is supposed
to be something like case-law----------some guy gets stoned for adultery
whereas by that time stoning for adultery was outmoded in jewish
jurisprudence. It was a kind of cautionary tale. Do not ask
me for chapter and verse

The Jewish law, as written is as incompatible with the Constitution as Sharia.

Do you have a source for your claim on Islamic jurisprudence?

Sheeesh Have you ever been in a law library? ever see the term
"case-law" it comes in journals that get turned into tomes -----very much
like the Talmud was elaborated. Lawyers use those tomes all the time
(the case -law ones-----not the Talmud) My claim on Islamic jurisprudence
comes from muslims I have known----like hundreds of them and people who
have lived in shariah ---uhm---well you know what-----I also cited a little story
formed like a parable ----of the BIG MO insisting on THE MAX as a matter
of PIETY. I have cited the FACT ---that Israel did away with capital
punishment without a murmur from the "black hats" -------you want more?
I will remain attentive to your unreasonable demands

Ok...so no source then.

 

[martybegan]

So they will kill infidels? Polygamy? Beating your wife is ok? Selling your daughters will be ok? Chopping hands off? Stoning unmarried women who have sex? What exactly are you expecting?

Once again, the muslim city council has no ability to change or enforce criminal laws.

But they could deny liquor license within the town, re-zone or even eliminate adult porn shops and strip clubs, mandate halal school lunches for muslim children, etc. ......

1) It depends on the laws of the State, if localities can become "dry" or not. The 21st amendment gives the States the choice, and they can delegate it to localities if they so choose.

2) Might run into 1st amendment issues if they ban it outright, but they can do other restrictions.

3) Also depends on the State, and the laws regarding school boards.

 

[irosie91]

Doesn't seem very compatible to me.

Capital and corporal punishment in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Punishment by Sekila (stoning)
See also: Stoning § In Judaism

• Intercourse between a man and his mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father's wife (not necessarily his mother).
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter in law.
• Intercourse with another man's wife from the first stage of marriage.
• Intercourse between two men.
• Bestiality.
• Cursing the name of God in God's name.
• Idol Worship.
• Giving one's progeny to Molech (child sacrifice).
• Necromantic Sorcery.
• Pythonic Sorcery.
• Attempting to convince another to worship idols.
• Instigating a community to worship idols.
• Witchcraft.
• Violating the Sabbath.
• Cursing one's own parent.
• A stubborn and rebellious son.

Punishment by Serefah (burning)

• The daughter of a priest who completed the second stage of marriage commits adultery.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter (not necessarily his own daughter).
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law's mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father in law's mother.

Punishment by Hereg (beheading)

• Unlawful premeditated murder.
• Being a member of a city that has gone astray.

Punishment by Chenek (strangulation)

• Committing adultery with another man's wife, where it doesn't fall under the above criteria.
• Wounding one's own parent.
• Kidnapping another member of Israel.
• Prophesizing falsely.
• Prophesizing in the name of other deities.
• A sage who is guilty of insubordination in front of the grand court in the Chamber of the Hewn Stone.

The big difference is that Jews and Christians no longer abide by the savagery of their books, Muslims still do. BIG difference.

wrong-----it is compatible with rabbinical law----obviously not "the same" ---
but not incompatible The law derived from the bible , like the law
derived from the koran -----is determined by the respective scholars thereof.
You are relying on wishful thinking

Doesn't seem very compatible to me.

Capital and corporal punishment in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Punishment by Sekila (stoning)
See also: Stoning § In Judaism

• Intercourse between a man and his mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father's wife (not necessarily his mother).
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter in law.
• Intercourse with another man's wife from the first stage of marriage.
• Intercourse between two men.
• Bestiality.
• Cursing the name of God in God's name.
• Idol Worship.
• Giving one's progeny to Molech (child sacrifice).
• Necromantic Sorcery.
• Pythonic Sorcery.
• Attempting to convince another to worship idols.
• Instigating a community to worship idols.
• Witchcraft.
• Violating the Sabbath.
• Cursing one's own parent.
• A stubborn and rebellious son.

Punishment by Serefah (burning)

• The daughter of a priest who completed the second stage of marriage commits adultery.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter (not necessarily his own daughter).
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law's mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father in law's mother.

Punishment by Hereg (beheading)

• Unlawful premeditated murder.
• Being a member of a city that has gone astray.

Punishment by Chenek (strangulation)

• Committing adultery with another man's wife, where it doesn't fall under the above criteria.
• Wounding one's own parent.
• Kidnapping another member of Israel.
• Prophesizing falsely.
• Prophesizing in the name of other deities.
• A sage who is guilty of insubordination in front of the grand court in the Chamber of the Hewn Stone.

wrong again Coyote----there is a principle of jewish jurisprudence
that you are ignoring-------the PENALTIES CANNOT BE EXCEEDED
BUT THEY CAN AND ALWAYS CAN BE REDUCED------you listed only the
MAXIMUMS. By actual edicts and customs whole categories of
penalties were reduced-----virtually all the time,,, regularly. Fret not---
you hold a very commonly held misconception. Islamic law REQUIRES
the maximum penalty ---In fact ---by memory I recall that principle
actually emphasized by big MO himself-----presented in what is supposed
to be something like case-law----------some guy gets stoned for adultery
whereas by that time stoning for adultery was outmoded in jewish
jurisprudence. It was a kind of cautionary tale. Do not ask
me for chapter and verse

The Jewish law, as written is as incompatible with the Constitution as Sharia.

Do you have a source for your claim on Islamic jurisprudence?

Sheeesh Have you ever been in a law library? ever see the term
"case-law" it comes in journals that get turned into tomes -----very much
like the Talmud was elaborated. Lawyers use those tomes all the time
(the case -law ones-----not the Talmud) My claim on Islamic jurisprudence
comes from muslims I have known----like hundreds of them and people who
have lived in shariah ---uhm---well you know what-----I also cited a little story
formed like a parable ----of the BIG MO insisting on THE MAX as a matter
of PIETY. I have cited the FACT ---that Israel did away with capital
punishment without a murmur from the "black hats" -------you want more?
I will remain attentive to your unreasonable demands

Ok...so no source then.

right-----how long did you manage to wait for a citation for that
dhimmi orphan law that you insisted was a "LIE"? remember?
It was before Yazidi girls were being placed on the auction block,
This time ----try holding your breath

 

[Coyote]

The big difference is that Jews and Christians no longer abide by the savagery of their books, Muslims still do. BIG difference.

Doesn't seem very compatible to me.

Capital and corporal punishment in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Punishment by Sekila (stoning)
See also: Stoning § In Judaism

• Intercourse between a man and his mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father's wife (not necessarily his mother).
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter in law.
• Intercourse with another man's wife from the first stage of marriage.
• Intercourse between two men.
• Bestiality.
• Cursing the name of God in God's name.
• Idol Worship.
• Giving one's progeny to Molech (child sacrifice).
• Necromantic Sorcery.
• Pythonic Sorcery.
• Attempting to convince another to worship idols.
• Instigating a community to worship idols.
• Witchcraft.
• Violating the Sabbath.
• Cursing one's own parent.
• A stubborn and rebellious son.

Punishment by Serefah (burning)

• The daughter of a priest who completed the second stage of marriage commits adultery.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter (not necessarily his own daughter).
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law's mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father in law's mother.

Punishment by Hereg (beheading)

• Unlawful premeditated murder.
• Being a member of a city that has gone astray.

Punishment by Chenek (strangulation)

• Committing adultery with another man's wife, where it doesn't fall under the above criteria.
• Wounding one's own parent.
• Kidnapping another member of Israel.
• Prophesizing falsely.
• Prophesizing in the name of other deities.
• A sage who is guilty of insubordination in front of the grand court in the Chamber of the Hewn Stone.

wrong again Coyote----there is a principle of jewish jurisprudence
that you are ignoring-------the PENALTIES CANNOT BE EXCEEDED
BUT THEY CAN AND ALWAYS CAN BE REDUCED------you listed only the
MAXIMUMS. By actual edicts and customs whole categories of
penalties were reduced-----virtually all the time,,, regularly. Fret not---
you hold a very commonly held misconception. Islamic law REQUIRES
the maximum penalty ---In fact ---by memory I recall that principle
actually emphasized by big MO himself-----presented in what is supposed
to be something like case-law----------some guy gets stoned for adultery
whereas by that time stoning for adultery was outmoded in jewish
jurisprudence. It was a kind of cautionary tale. Do not ask
me for chapter and verse

The Jewish law, as written is as incompatible with the Constitution as Sharia.

Do you have a source for your claim on Islamic jurisprudence?

Sheeesh Have you ever been in a law library? ever see the term
"case-law" it comes in journals that get turned into tomes -----very much
like the Talmud was elaborated. Lawyers use those tomes all the time
(the case -law ones-----not the Talmud) My claim on Islamic jurisprudence
comes from muslims I have known----like hundreds of them and people who
have lived in shariah ---uhm---well you know what-----I also cited a little story
formed like a parable ----of the BIG MO insisting on THE MAX as a matter
of PIETY. I have cited the FACT ---that Israel did away with capital
punishment without a murmur from the "black hats" -------you want more?
I will remain attentive to your unreasonable demands

Ok...so no source then.

right-----how long did you manage to wait for a citation for that
dhimmi orphan law that you insisted was a "LIE"? remember?
It was before Yazidi girls were being placed on the auction block,
This time ----try holding your breath

If you don't have a citation for your claim about Islamic jurisprudence here in this thread, then just say so.

 

[irosie91]

wrong again Coyote----there is a principle of jewish jurisprudence
that you are ignoring-------the PENALTIES CANNOT BE EXCEEDED
BUT THEY CAN AND ALWAYS CAN BE REDUCED------you listed only the
MAXIMUMS. By actual edicts and customs whole categories of
penalties were reduced-----virtually all the time,,, regularly. Fret not---
you hold a very commonly held misconception. Islamic law REQUIRES
the maximum penalty ---In fact ---by memory I recall that principle
actually emphasized by big MO himself-----presented in what is supposed
to be something like case-law----------some guy gets stoned for adultery
whereas by that time stoning for adultery was outmoded in jewish
jurisprudence. It was a kind of cautionary tale. Do not ask
me for chapter and verse

The Jewish law, as written is as incompatible with the Constitution as Sharia.

Do you have a source for your claim on Islamic jurisprudence?

Sheeesh Have you ever been in a law library? ever see the term
"case-law" it comes in journals that get turned into tomes -----very much
like the Talmud was elaborated. Lawyers use those tomes all the time
(the case -law ones-----not the Talmud) My claim on Islamic jurisprudence
comes from muslims I have known----like hundreds of them and people who
have lived in shariah ---uhm---well you know what-----I also cited a little story
formed like a parable ----of the BIG MO insisting on THE MAX as a matter
of PIETY. I have cited the FACT ---that Israel did away with capital
punishment without a murmur from the "black hats" -------you want more?
I will remain attentive to your unreasonable demands

Ok...so no source then.

right-----how long did you manage to wait for a citation for that
dhimmi orphan law that you insisted was a "LIE"? remember?
It was before Yazidi girls were being placed on the auction block,
This time ----try holding your breath

If you don't have a citation for your claim about Islamic jurisprudence here in this thread, then just say so.

I have not tried to locate one. I did not have a citation when I made
my "claim" about dhimmi orphan law either------I commented about
something I KNEW even before Al Gore invented the internet-------
just as I know details about Islamic jurisprudence and jewish jurisprudence
since the time before Al Gore invented the internet. It's ok-----
you can breathe now-------I take the Pharisee approach---and school
of Hillel

 

[Mudda]

It's not consistent with Rabbinical law either..or the Bible...so what?

wrong-----it is compatible with rabbinical law----obviously not "the same" ---
but not incompatible The law derived from the bible , like the law
derived from the koran -----is determined by the respective scholars thereof.
You are relying on wishful thinking

Doesn't seem very compatible to me.

Capital and corporal punishment in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Punishment by Sekila (stoning)
See also: Stoning § In Judaism

• Intercourse between a man and his mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father's wife (not necessarily his mother).
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter in law.
• Intercourse with another man's wife from the first stage of marriage.
• Intercourse between two men.
• Bestiality.
• Cursing the name of God in God's name.
• Idol Worship.
• Giving one's progeny to Molech (child sacrifice).
• Necromantic Sorcery.
• Pythonic Sorcery.
• Attempting to convince another to worship idols.
• Instigating a community to worship idols.
• Witchcraft.
• Violating the Sabbath.
• Cursing one's own parent.
• A stubborn and rebellious son.

Punishment by Serefah (burning)

• The daughter of a priest who completed the second stage of marriage commits adultery.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter (not necessarily his own daughter).
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law's mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father in law's mother.

Punishment by Hereg (beheading)

• Unlawful premeditated murder.
• Being a member of a city that has gone astray.

Punishment by Chenek (strangulation)

• Committing adultery with another man's wife, where it doesn't fall under the above criteria.
• Wounding one's own parent.
• Kidnapping another member of Israel.
• Prophesizing falsely.
• Prophesizing in the name of other deities.
• A sage who is guilty of insubordination in front of the grand court in the Chamber of the Hewn Stone.

The big difference is that Jews and Christians no longer abide by the savagery of their books, Muslims still do. BIG difference.

the constitution of the United States IS NOT consistent with shariah law. It is not INCONSISTENT with any system of law to which the vast majority of Christians and jews adhere. It's not rocket science

It's not consistent with Rabbinical law either..or the Bible...so what?

wrong-----it is compatible with rabbinical law----obviously not "the same" ---
but not incompatible The law derived from the bible , like the law
derived from the koran -----is determined by the respective scholars thereof.
You are relying on wishful thinking

Doesn't seem very compatible to me.

Capital and corporal punishment in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Punishment by Sekila (stoning)
See also: Stoning § In Judaism

• Intercourse between a man and his mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father's wife (not necessarily his mother).
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter in law.
• Intercourse with another man's wife from the first stage of marriage.
• Intercourse between two men.
• Bestiality.
• Cursing the name of God in God's name.
• Idol Worship.
• Giving one's progeny to Molech (child sacrifice).
• Necromantic Sorcery.
• Pythonic Sorcery.
• Attempting to convince another to worship idols.
• Instigating a community to worship idols.
• Witchcraft.
• Violating the Sabbath.
• Cursing one's own parent.
• A stubborn and rebellious son.

Punishment by Serefah (burning)

• The daughter of a priest who completed the second stage of marriage commits adultery.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter (not necessarily his own daughter).
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's daughter's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his wife's son's daughter.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law.
• Intercourse between a man and his mother in law's mother.
• Intercourse between a man and his father in law's mother.

Punishment by Hereg (beheading)

• Unlawful premeditated murder.
• Being a member of a city that has gone astray.

Punishment by Chenek (strangulation)

• Committing adultery with another man's wife, where it doesn't fall under the above criteria.
• Wounding one's own parent.
• Kidnapping another member of Israel.
• Prophesizing falsely.
• Prophesizing in the name of other deities.
• A sage who is guilty of insubordination in front of the grand court in the Chamber of the Hewn Stone.

wrong again Coyote----there is a principle of jewish jurisprudence
that you are ignoring-------the PENALTIES CANNOT BE EXCEEDED
BUT THEY CAN AND ALWAYS CAN BE REDUCED------you listed only the
MAXIMUMS. By actual edicts and customs whole categories of
penalties were reduced-----virtually all the time,,, regularly. Fret not---
you hold a very commonly held misconception. Islamic law REQUIRES
the maximum penalty ---In fact ---by memory I recall that principle
actually emphasized by big MO himself-----presented in what is supposed
to be something like case-law----------some guy gets stoned for adultery
whereas by that time stoning for adultery was outmoded in jewish
jurisprudence. It was a kind of cautionary tale. Do not ask
me for chapter and verse

The Jewish law, as written is as incompatible with the Constitution as Sharia.

Do you have a source for your claim on Islamic jurisprudence?

Jews aren't threatening to slice your head off if they can't spread Jewish law. Muslims on the other hand...