First Felon unzipped ... Trump fails in his responsibility with petulant firing of Alexander Vindman

[Denizen]

Donald Trump has demonstrated that the GOP Senators who said that the impeachment would cause Donald Trump to temper his actions were dead wrong as Trump conducts a massacre of government officials who testified in the impeachment investigations.

The First Felon is unzipped and has no constraints on his criminal conduct.

Donald Trump was right when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose any support.

Share prices of pike manufacturers have gone through the roof.

Trump fails in his responsibility with petulant firing of Alexander Vindman

Trump fails in his responsibility with petulant firing of Alexander Vindman
by Tom Rogan, February 07, 2020 04:31 PM

A president has the right to a national security team he trusts. A president also has the responsibility to put the best interests of the nation before his own.

Firing Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman on Friday, Trump acted as is his right but abandoned his responsibility.

To be sure, Vindman has become an inherently partisan figure. The moment the Army officer raised concerns about the propriety of a July White House meeting on Ukraine and later a July phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, he risked entering an inherently political space. That became inevitable once the Democratic-controlled House of Representatives launched impeachment proceedings.

Still, there is little evidence that Vindman acted outside the established reporting procedures in raising his concerns, and Vindman's service record as an Army officer suggests that he is first and foremost a patriot. We pay our military officers to make very tough calls in the nation's best interest. Vindman believed, credibly, that he was doing so.

For that reason, he was due more respect from his commander in chief than that which he received on Friday.

Team Trump sees things differently, of course, but Trump's supporters should remember that the president is not a king. ...

To be called a Felon, you have to be at least charged with a felony. No one thinks Trump is a king except for people who don't understand the basic concepts of how government works.

You described Donald Trump: "people who don't understand the basic concepts of how government works."

 

[Denizen]

Personally I'm investing in pitchfork and torch futures....

You're going to be pretty lonely out there all by yourself.

I'm an old codger, and I cannot recall a time in my life when the country has been run more smoothly or better. All this in spite of the vicious, shameful attacks by the Democrats who see any chance of leadership anytime in the foreseeable future, swirling down the drain.

More smoothly?

What country do you live in?

You betcha! Don't you just love it?

All this in spite of the vicious, shameful attacks by the Democrats who see any chance of leadership anytime in the foreseeable future, swirling down the drain.

Did you see it? Job numbers came out today. More terrible news for Democrats! So sorry!

Blowout: U.S. Economy Created 225,000 Jobs in January
JOHN CARNEY 7 Feb 2020
Economists had expected the economy to add 160,000 jobs. December’s figure was revised up from 145,000 to 147,000.
Blowout: U.S. Economy Created 225,000 Jobs in January

You are deluded. Trump's stooges have been cooking the books and revise down job numbers after the spotlight goes off the numbers.

Obama's job record is evidently very superior to Trump's

Trump’s Jobs Record Is Weaker Than Everyone Thought

... President Donald Trump has always exaggerated the strength of his jobs record, claiming to have brought about an unprecedented hiring boom when, in fact, payrolls have been growing at a somewhat slower pace than they had been during Barack Obama’s final years in office. But it turns out, the reality of it was even weaker than the official data let on.

On Friday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released its latest batch of employment numbers, along with its annual benchmark revisions adjusting its estimates from prior months. Before, the government believed that the U.S. had added 223,000 jobs per month in 2018, the year that the GOP’s tax cuts and new, higher spending levels took effect. It has now lowered that estimate to 193,000 per month, a significant drop. ...

Your desperation is duly noted! Why do you hate all the great things happening in America since President Donald Trump took office?

US adds 225,000 jobs in January as workers rejoin the labour force
Unemployment rate ticks up to 3.6% in an otherwise strong start to 2020
Brendan Greeley in Washington, and Peter Wells and Colby Smith in New York
[...]
Wages increased 3.1 per cent in January from a year earlier, an improvement after the annual rate of wage growth fell below 3 per cent in December for the first time since 2018. That was better than economists’ forecasts for 3 per cent growth, but still down from a high of 3.5 per cent in early 2019.
[...]
In an encouraging sign, in addition to December’s revision, non-farm payrolls for November were bumped up by 5,000 to 256,000, suggesting the labour market was in firmer shape towards the end of 2019 than previously reported.

Subscribe to read | Financial Times

May God Bless President Donald Trump! Keep up the great work!

Wage growth is being boosted by the pressure on minimum wage rise.

In the last threee years US government debt per worker has risen by $ 10,000 because government debt is rising at > 2.5 x GDP growth.

 

[Lysistrata]

Donald Trump has demonstrated that the GOP Senators who said that the impeachment would cause Donald Trump to temper his actions were dead wrong as Trump conducts a massacre of government officials who testified in the impeachment investigations.

The First Felon is unzipped and has no constraints on his criminal conduct.

Donald Trump was right when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose any support.

Share prices of pike manufacturers have gone through the roof.

Trump fails in his responsibility with petulant firing of Alexander Vindman

Trump fails in his responsibility with petulant firing of Alexander Vindman
by Tom Rogan, February 07, 2020 04:31 PM

A president has the right to a national security team he trusts. A president also has the responsibility to put the best interests of the nation before his own.

Firing Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman on Friday, Trump acted as is his right but abandoned his responsibility.

To be sure, Vindman has become an inherently partisan figure. The moment the Army officer raised concerns about the propriety of a July White House meeting on Ukraine and later a July phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, he risked entering an inherently political space. That became inevitable once the Democratic-controlled House of Representatives launched impeachment proceedings.

Still, there is little evidence that Vindman acted outside the established reporting procedures in raising his concerns, and Vindman's service record as an Army officer suggests that he is first and foremost a patriot. We pay our military officers to make very tough calls in the nation's best interest. Vindman believed, credibly, that he was doing so.

For that reason, he was due more respect from his commander in chief than that which he received on Friday.

Team Trump sees things differently, of course, but Trump's supporters should remember that the president is not a king. ...

First sign of a demonstration of leadership and the libs lose their minds.

What leadership? He's a criminal who wants to be king. He has no policies that would do anyone any good. I can't see why anyone could possibly support him with a straight face. I've lived through several presidents of both parties, and this is the first one I can honestly say does not belong in the office under any circumstances. Corporations and cults. That's all he is.

 

[Crepitus]

You're going to be pretty lonely out there all by yourself.

I'm an old codger, and I cannot recall a time in my life when the country has been run more smoothly or better. All this in spite of the vicious, shameful attacks by the Democrats who see any chance of leadership anytime in the foreseeable future, swirling down the drain.

More smoothly?

What country do you live in?

You betcha! Don't you just love it?

All this in spite of the vicious, shameful attacks by the Democrats who see any chance of leadership anytime in the foreseeable future, swirling down the drain.

Did you see it? Job numbers came out today. More terrible news for Democrats! So sorry!

Blowout: U.S. Economy Created 225,000 Jobs in January
JOHN CARNEY 7 Feb 2020
Economists had expected the economy to add 160,000 jobs. December’s figure was revised up from 145,000 to 147,000.
Blowout: U.S. Economy Created 225,000 Jobs in January

You are deluded. Trump's stooges have been cooking the books and revise down job numbers after the spotlight goes off the numbers.

Obama's job record is evidently very superior to Trump's

Trump’s Jobs Record Is Weaker Than Everyone Thought

... President Donald Trump has always exaggerated the strength of his jobs record, claiming to have brought about an unprecedented hiring boom when, in fact, payrolls have been growing at a somewhat slower pace than they had been during Barack Obama’s final years in office. But it turns out, the reality of it was even weaker than the official data let on.

On Friday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released its latest batch of employment numbers, along with its annual benchmark revisions adjusting its estimates from prior months. Before, the government believed that the U.S. had added 223,000 jobs per month in 2018, the year that the GOP’s tax cuts and new, higher spending levels took effect. It has now lowered that estimate to 193,000 per month, a significant drop. ...

Your desperation is duly noted! Why do you hate all the great things happening in America since President Donald Trump took office?

US adds 225,000 jobs in January as workers rejoin the labour force
Unemployment rate ticks up to 3.6% in an otherwise strong start to 2020
Brendan Greeley in Washington, and Peter Wells and Colby Smith in New York
[...]
Wages increased 3.1 per cent in January from a year earlier, an improvement after the annual rate of wage growth fell below 3 per cent in December for the first time since 2018. That was better than economists’ forecasts for 3 per cent growth, but still down from a high of 3.5 per cent in early 2019.
[...]
In an encouraging sign, in addition to December’s revision, non-farm payrolls for November were bumped up by 5,000 to 256,000, suggesting the labour market was in firmer shape towards the end of 2019 than previously reported.

Subscribe to read | Financial Times

May God Bless President Donald Trump! Keep up the great work!

Wage growth is being boosted by the pressure on minimum wage rise.

In the last threee years US government debt per worker has risen by $ 10,000 because government debt is rising at > 2.5 x GDP growth.

That's a scary fact.

 

[JWBooth]

First sign of a demonstration of leadership and the libs lose their minds.

What leadership? He's a criminal who wants to be king. He has no policies that would do anyone any good. I can't see why anyone could possibly support him with a straight face. I've lived through several presidents of both parties, and this is the first one I can honestly say does not belong in the office under any circumstances. Corporations and cults. That's all he is.

Your hysterics are funny

 

[JWBooth]

And the Stalinist Purge begins

Hey shit for brains they were transferred back to the Pentagon, not fired. White House jobs are not guaranteed for life.

Or the duration of an administration.

you can fire someone for any reason or no reason but not for an illegal reason, idiota

Porbre pequena babosa pendejita nothing illegal about it.

 

[AntonToo]

Donald Trump has demonstrated that the GOP Senators who said that the impeachment would cause Donald Trump to temper his actions were dead wrong as Trump conducts a massacre of government officials who testified in the impeachment investigations.

The First Felon is unzipped and has no constraints on his criminal conduct.

Donald Trump was right when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose any support.

Share prices of pike manufacturers have gone through the roof.

Trump fails in his responsibility with petulant firing of Alexander Vindman

What law did he break, Chuckles?

There is no law that a POTUS can’t be a total piece of shit. But good news Bro, you can still grow a pair and call him what he is.

Aside from that there are whistleblower protection laws that make retribution against those that follow the process to report improprieties illegal.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

There is no law that a POTUS can’t be a total piece of shit.

Is that the bar now? It’s not clearly illegal?

No the bar should be set by you and what you want, and you should kick and scream and whine and cry until you get what you want...you're a liberal that makes trump the president of necessity.

 

[boedicca]

You betcha! Don't you just love it?

All this in spite of the vicious, shameful attacks by the Democrats who see any chance of leadership anytime in the foreseeable future, swirling down the drain.

Did you see it? Job numbers came out today. More terrible news for Democrats! So sorry!

Blowout: U.S. Economy Created 225,000 Jobs in January
JOHN CARNEY 7 Feb 2020
Economists had expected the economy to add 160,000 jobs. December’s figure was revised up from 145,000 to 147,000.
Blowout: U.S. Economy Created 225,000 Jobs in January

I'm reaching the point where I begin to suspect the accuracy of the job numbers.

The unemployment rate is beginning to rise again.

The only booming businesses are those supplying legal services to Donald Trump and associates.

A 1/10 of 1% rise in unemployment for one month only isn't very much. I guess its something that libs can hope on, but its a pretty weak signal, and it doesn't seem very likely to me that the Liberals will get the Economic Collapse they are hoping for in 2020.

The unemployment rate rises when long time discouraged folks who aren't counted as unemployed re-enter the labor force to look for work.

It also rises when administraion stooges can no longer cook the books.

Well, yes. We saw that quite dramatically during Obabble's worst recovery ever.

 

[Markle]

Donald Trump has demonstrated that the GOP Senators who said that the impeachment would cause Donald Trump to temper his actions were dead wrong as Trump conducts a massacre of government officials who testified in the impeachment investigations.

The First Felon is unzipped and has no constraints on his criminal conduct.

Donald Trump was right when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose any support.

Share prices of pike manufacturers have gone through the roof.

Trump fails in his responsibility with petulant firing of Alexander Vindman

Trump fails in his responsibility with petulant firing of Alexander Vindman
by Tom Rogan, February 07, 2020 04:31 PM

A president has the right to a national security team he trusts. A president also has the responsibility to put the best interests of the nation before his own.

Firing Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman on Friday, Trump acted as is his right but abandoned his responsibility.

To be sure, Vindman has become an inherently partisan figure. The moment the Army officer raised concerns about the propriety of a July White House meeting on Ukraine and later a July phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, he risked entering an inherently political space. That became inevitable once the Democratic-controlled House of Representatives launched impeachment proceedings.

Still, there is little evidence that Vindman acted outside the established reporting procedures in raising his concerns, and Vindman's service record as an Army officer suggests that he is first and foremost a patriot. We pay our military officers to make very tough calls in the nation's best interest. Vindman believed, credibly, that he was doing so.

For that reason, he was due more respect from his commander in chief than that which he received on Friday.

Team Trump sees things differently, of course, but Trump's supporters should remember that the president is not a king. ...

First sign of a demonstration of leadership and the libs lose their minds.

What leadership? He's a criminal who wants to be king. He has no policies that would do anyone any good. I can't see why anyone could possibly support him with a straight face. I've lived through several presidents of both parties, and this is the first one I can honestly say does not belong in the office under any circumstances. Corporations and cults. That's all he is.

It pains you to the core seeing our country run so well and so smoothly for everyone by someone you detest and insisted that he would be an abject failure. If he wasn't such a roaring success, the Democrats would not be working 24/7 to destroy the man.

I sincerely feel sorry for anyone so blinded by hate.

 

[AntonToo]

There is no law that a POTUS can’t be a total piece of shit.

Is that the bar now? It’s not clearly illegal?

No the bar should be set by you and what you want, and you should kick and scream and whine and cry until you get what you want...you're a liberal that makes trump the president of necessity.

...You think I WANT our POTUS to be a piece of shit? Au contraire retardo, I wish the office of the presidency and immense responsibility that comes with it would moderate Trump's many deploarble ways....NOPE, not even close (though he probably paused fucking pornstars).

 

[Frankeneinstein]

...You think I WANT our POTUS to be a piece of shit? Au contraire retardo, I wish the office of the presidency and immense responsibility that comes with it would moderate Trump's many deploarble ways....NOPE, not even close (though he probably paused fucking pornstars).

 

[Care4all]

Donald Trump has demonstrated that the GOP Senators who said that the impeachment would cause Donald Trump to temper his actions were dead wrong as Trump conducts a massacre of government officials who testified in the impeachment investigations.

The First Felon is unzipped and has no constraints on his criminal conduct.

Donald Trump was right when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose any support.

Share prices of pike manufacturers have gone through the roof.

Trump fails in his responsibility with petulant firing of Alexander Vindman

What law did he break, Chuckles?

since Vindman worked with the IC, maybe this one?

Presidential Policy Directive – 19 (PPD-19), Protecting Whistleblowers with Access to Classified Information, also provides protections for IC employees against personnel actions taken in reprisal for lawfully participating in the whistleblowing process. In addition, employees and contractors are protected from reprisals in the security clearance adjudication process. PPD-19 requires that the agency inspector general review whistleblower reprisal allegations in violation of PPD-19. Further, PPD-19 allows employees and contractors to seek an external review from the ICIG of their reprisal allegations once they have exhausted their own agency’s review process.

The whistlegossip had no need to know what Vindman told him....Vindman blatantly violated military laws and protocols regarding privileged information.....He deserves a court martial and dishonorable discharge.

Security Clearances and Security Violations

no he did not break security clearance!

The ICIG said in his report that the whistle blower was authorized to receive the information he received, which was part of his duties.... or something like that.... so that means whomever discussed it with him, was also authorized to discuss it with him....and if that person was Vindman, then Vindman did not break security rules.... and that also means Vindman could be the 2nd whistle blower that the IG announced... he later had a 2nd person signed on to the complaint.... let me see if I can find it....


As part of his determination that the urgent concern appeared credible, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community determined that the Complainant had official and authorized access to the information and sources referenced in the Complainant’s Letter and Classified Appendix, including direct knowledge of certain alleged conduct, and that the Complainant has subject matter expertise related to much of the material information provided in the Complainant’s Letter and Classified Appendix.

https://www.dni.gov/files/ICIG/Docu...on Processing of Whistleblower Complaints.pdf

 

[Oddball]

Donald Trump has demonstrated that the GOP Senators who said that the impeachment would cause Donald Trump to temper his actions were dead wrong as Trump conducts a massacre of government officials who testified in the impeachment investigations.

The First Felon is unzipped and has no constraints on his criminal conduct.

Donald Trump was right when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose any support.

Share prices of pike manufacturers have gone through the roof.

Trump fails in his responsibility with petulant firing of Alexander Vindman

What law did he break, Chuckles?

since Vindman worked with the IC, maybe this one?

Presidential Policy Directive – 19 (PPD-19), Protecting Whistleblowers with Access to Classified Information, also provides protections for IC employees against personnel actions taken in reprisal for lawfully participating in the whistleblowing process. In addition, employees and contractors are protected from reprisals in the security clearance adjudication process. PPD-19 requires that the agency inspector general review whistleblower reprisal allegations in violation of PPD-19. Further, PPD-19 allows employees and contractors to seek an external review from the ICIG of their reprisal allegations once they have exhausted their own agency’s review process.

The whistlegossip had no need to know what Vindman told him....Vindman blatantly violated military laws and protocols regarding privileged information.....He deserves a court martial and dishonorable discharge.

Security Clearances and Security Violations

no he did not break security clearance!

The ICIG said in his report that the whistle blower was authorized to receive the information he received, which was part of his duties.... or something like that.... so that means whomever discussed it with him, was also authorized to discuss it with him....and if that person was Vindman, then Vindman did not break security rules.... and that also means Vindman could be the 2nd whistle blower that the IG announced... he later had a 2nd person signed on to the complaint.... let me see if I can find it....


As part of his determination that the urgent concern appeared credible, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community determined that the Complainant had official and authorized access to the information and sources referenced in the Complainant’s Letter and Classified Appendix, including direct knowledge of certain alleged conduct, and that the Complainant has subject matter expertise related to much of the material information provided in the Complainant’s Letter and Classified Appendix.

https://www.dni.gov/files/ICIG/Documents/News/ICIG News/2019/September 30 - Statement on Processing of Whistleblower Complaints/ICIG Statement on Processing of Whistleblower Complaints.pdf

Pure horseshit.

This is the same IG that changed the rules at the last moment to allow hearsay evidence.....Fruit of the poisonous tree.

Oh, and BTW, Vindman admitted that he told others as well.

 

[Timmy]

Trump is so pro military! Lol!

Better than being pro baby killing, right?

Aren’t you pro death penalty ?

Aren’t you pro death penalty ?

What does that have to do with abortion?

What crime did the 'baby' commit to be killed?

A zygote is not a baby. It’s a potential baby . Yet you “pro life” people have no problem murdering full live humans .

 

[Auld Phart]

Trump is so pro military! Lol!

Better than being pro baby killing, right?

Aren’t you pro death penalty ?

Aren’t you pro death penalty ?

What does that have to do with abortion?

What crime did the 'baby' commit to be killed?

A zygote is not a baby. It’s a potential baby . Yet you “pro life” people have no problem murdering full live humans .

I have no problem with the execution of a criminal, found guilty by a jury of his peers.

Does a 'zygote' have that many persons deciding its future?

(do you understand the difference, or are you a complete fool?)

 

[The Original Tree]

Trump is so pro military! Lol!

Better than being pro baby killing, right?

Aren’t you pro death penalty ?

Aren’t you pro death penalty ?

What does that have to do with abortion?

What crime did the 'baby' commit to be killed?

A zygote is not a baby. It’s a potential baby . Yet you “pro life” people have no problem murdering full live humans .

Is that the argument you will give The Creator when He asks you why you helped to Murder His Children?

God says He knew us while we were formed in the womb before birth.

Did He know you?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Outside of bitching like entitled Antifans, liberals have no argument for Vlindman not to be reassigned.

 

[Denizen]

Outside of bitching like entitled Antifans, liberals have no argument for Vlindman not to be reassigned.

There is an argument. As John Kelly stated, Vindman performed his duty faithfully by reporting a crime in progress.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Outside of bitching like entitled Antifans, liberals have no argument for Vlindman not to be reassigned.

There is an argument. As John Kelly stated, Vindman performed his duty faithfully by reporting a crime in progress.

Where is the crime? I can look at anyone and find something criminal to report them on. Even if they get charged and convicted, my motives will always be questioned. Trump was charged with an “abuse of power”, not a crime.

Again, you are not making the case for Vindman to continue in his role to serve the President in the White House. He did not lose his job, he is being reassigned and will most likely get a raise.