Finding a Doctor If You Don't Have Covid

[EvMetro]

My sister has a Master's in Hospital Administration, and has worked in medical billing longer than most of these little self-important nurses have even been out of diapers. That's why she was the one who stayed with Mom most of the time she was at the ER: because she understands the medical stuff, she knows when she's being bullshitted, and she has no embarrassment whatsoever about tearing new orifices if she thinks it's necessary.

I'm so glad your mom has your sister for support. These days, our loved ones absolutely NEED this. Hospitals have become crippled with bureaucracy and incompetence, so it is more important than ever to have someone who cares with you in the hospital. Having someone who knows hospitals is even better.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I'm so glad your mom has your sister for support. These days, our loved ones absolutely NEED this. Hospitals have become crippled with bureaucracy and incompetence, so it is more important than ever to have someone who cares with you in the hospital. Having someone who knows hospitals is even better.

I'm very grateful for my sister, and also for her kids, who have been helping out as well. Lorrie and her husband moved Mom into their downstairs bedroom, but apparently the whole house is in chaos now, because they couldn't get everything moved and put away again on their own. My husband and sons and I are going to go over on Saturday, move the rest of the furniture, put everything away, and then I'm going to clean the house and cook up some meals they can put in the fridge and just heat up as needed.

It's sad that so many people in this country have lost sight of the importance of family and friends for support structure in their lives. Thank God we've maintained that, because we'd be screwed without each other.

 

[EvMetro]

I'm very grateful for my sister, and also for her kids, who have been helping out as well. Lorrie and her husband moved Mom into their downstairs bedroom, but apparently the whole house is in chaos now, because they couldn't get everything moved and put away again on their own. My husband and sons and I are going to go over on Saturday, move the rest of the furniture, put everything away, and then I'm going to clean the house and cook up some meals they can put in the fridge and just heat up as needed.

It's sad that so many people in this country have lost sight of the importance of family and friends for support structure in their lives. Thank God we've maintained that, because we'd be screwed without each other.

Amen. Friends and family are all we really have, and we need each other to get through the curve balls that mother nature relentlessly throws at is.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Update on my mom: Her primary care doctor got her meds for her pneumonia and influenza-B, and her respiratory issues have abated. We narrowed her structural issues from her fall to her back, her hip, and her shoulder. For a while, she was in horrible pain all the time, which left her exhausted and depressed. She has an appointment with a spine specialist, and in the meantime, her primary care doctor also arranged for a steroid shot and some mild, VERY-seldom pain meds, which have abated a lot of the pain. I've been going over to my sister's to spend time with her almost every day, and also to help my sister with things like giving sponge baths, cook food, etc. We also made arrangements for her to get a home health aide to come in a couple of times a week, and a physical therapist to make visits and help her get mobile again.

On the downside, she's started having panic attacks about not having someone else around for even a minute. The other day, I was heading over to momsit for a few hours while my sister and her husband went out for lunch with his grandma. I got delayed because of an accident on the freeway, and my sister called to see where I was. I told her what happened, and that I was now on the last road before their house, about 5 minutes away. She suggested the possibility of them going ahead and leaving, since I was literally almost at the house. Mom freaked. She told me afterwards that she's had a couple of panic attacks when she called Sis and didn't get a response right away, and she's a bit distraught about it. Didn't understand why it was happening and thought she was going nuts or something. I explained that OF COURSE she's afraid of being alone, because she's dependent on us for everything right now, and being helpless if something bad happened would be terrifying. I assured her that once she felt better and was more mobile, the panic attacks would fade.

It's actually a little weird how comforting both she and my sister find my company, given that I don't seem to do much, at least from my perspective. I mostly just talk about all the stuff going on with my silly jobs, my kids, current events, whatever. But it really seems to help them both, I guess by taking their minds off Mom's issues. Raising people's spirits turns out to be one of my major talents in this scenario, which is just bizarre.

 

[EvMetro]

Having someone around who is comforting can be priceless, especially during times of need. If you are more "grounded" than others are, that may be what is needed the most.

 

[krichton]

The day before yesterday, my 84-year-old mother was walking across my sister's living room, fell down, and started having something that looked like a seizure. My sister, of course, called the paramedics and had her taken to the ER. Mom ended up spending the entire day in the ER. They determined that she has influenza-B, which then opened the door for her to get pneumonia. They don't know for sure what the falling and seizure thing was about, although they think she may have a blood clot interfering with the circulation to her brain.

Here's the thing. Normally, she would have had tests run, x-rays to find out how badly she damaged her hip (my sister thinks she might have broken it), and been admitted to the hospital. Instead, my sister found out at 2 pm that they hadn't even put in the order for the tests yet. Basically, they gave her a quick once-over, tested her for Covid, and since she doesn't have it, forgot that she was there. After a full day of sitting there and having nothing done for her whatsoever, my sister signed Mom out AMA (against medical advice) and brought her home to start looking for somewhere to get her the care she needs. She reported that the hospital was clogged up with people who aren't even particularly sick, but are terrified and panicked about "the 'rona". And the doctors and nurses can't seem to wrap their brains around the idea that there's any other illness or medical condition in the world besides Covid.

Mom could have had a stroke. We don't know, because we can't get anyone to do the tests and find out. If she has a blood clot, which she has a history of and is on blood-thinners for, it could break loose and go to her brain or heart and kill her. But it's not "the 'rona", so it doesn't matter. Fucking pneumonia is THE number one killer of the elderly. But to everyone's mind, the only respiratory problem in the world is Covid. Who cares if your lungs are filled with fluid, so long as it's not full of "the 'rona"?

Enough is fucking enough with this insane panic. Our loved ones are not statistics for politicians to use and sacrifice for their agenda and personal power.

Is your sister a doctor? Did she examine each patient at the hospital who was waiting to be seen? How does she know that they're not sick?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Is your sister a doctor? Did she examine each patient at the hospital who was waiting to be seen? How does she know that they're not sick?

No, she has these things called "observation" and "common sense". I'm very sorry to hear that you're not able to discern a visibly-sick person from one who isn't, particularly in a frigging emergency room. I'm equally sorry to see that you've bought into the, "I'm just a peasant who must allow the experts to do any thinking" mindset.

I'm guessing you're the sort of asshole who clogs up ERs every time you get the sniffles, because "only an expert" can determine how sick you are.

For the record and your badly-needed edification, here are the triage criteria used in the ER, many of which are visibly obvious to anyone with an engaged pre-frontal cortex:

1) "Immediate life-saving intervention", or "Is the patient dying?" - People who aren't breathing, don't have a pulse, or are severely bleeding. These people are noticeable - for the brief time they're being rushed directly into a room - by not being conscious or being covered in blood.

2) "High risk" - People who are in severe pain or distress, or are confused, lethargic, or disoriented. Also fairly easy to detect, for the relatively brief time they're in the waiting area.

3) "Needing two or more hospital resources" - Most of these people also have some sort of visible symptom, although not a risk to life or limb. They're also not usually left waiting for long, unless the ER is full of traumatic patients.

4) "Needing only one hospital resource" - These people probably aren't showing any visible symptoms, and may or may not have been able to wait for urgent-care services during the day.

5) "Needing no hospital services" - This would be you and your sniffles. These would be the people who spend hours in the waiting room, with no obviously visible symptoms, until there's literally no one else to be seen.

My mom is 84, she passed out and fell down, and she had to be brought in by ambulance. Under normal circumstances, she would have been in category 2 or 3. Also under normal circumstances, it would be unheard-of for a patient with that profile to be kept waiting for 24 hours for admission and treatment.

Most of the people in the ER during that time fell into categories 4 and 5.

This ends your lesson for today on not being an imbecilic sheep. You're welcome.

 

[Orangecat]

You got to a McDonalds where they serve 1200 customers a day. So, 3 of those customers will die of COVID.

How many will die of obesity?

 

[Cecilie1200]

How many will die of obesity?

No telling, but 100% of them will die of having been alive.

 

[krichton]

No, she has these things called "observation" and "common sense". I'm very sorry to hear that you're not able to discern a visibly-sick person from one who isn't, particularly in a frigging emergency room. I'm equally sorry to see that you've bought into the, "I'm just a peasant who must allow the experts to do any thinking" mindset.

I'm guessing you're the sort of asshole who clogs up ERs every time you get the sniffles, because "only an expert" can determine how sick you are.

For the record and your badly-needed edification, here are the triage criteria used in the ER, many of which are visibly obvious to anyone with an engaged pre-frontal cortex:

1) "Immediate life-saving intervention", or "Is the patient dying?" - People who aren't breathing, don't have a pulse, or are severely bleeding. These people are noticeable - for the brief time they're being rushed directly into a room - by not being conscious or being covered in blood.

2) "High risk" - People who are in severe pain or distress, or are confused, lethargic, or disoriented. Also fairly easy to detect, for the relatively brief time they're in the waiting area.

3) "Needing two or more hospital resources" - Most of these people also have some sort of visible symptom, although not a risk to life or limb. They're also not usually left waiting for long, unless the ER is full of traumatic patients.

4) "Needing only one hospital resource" - These people probably aren't showing any visible symptoms, and may or may not have been able to wait for urgent-care services during the day.

5) "Needing no hospital services" - This would be you and your sniffles. These would be the people who spend hours in the waiting room, with no obviously visible symptoms, until there's literally no one else to be seen.

My mom is 84, she passed out and fell down, and she had to be brought in by ambulance. Under normal circumstances, she would have been in category 2 or 3. Also under normal circumstances, it would be unheard-of for a patient with that profile to be kept waiting for 24 hours for admission and treatment.

Most of the people in the ER during that time fell into categories 4 and 5.

This ends your lesson for today on not being an imbecilic sheep. You're welcome.

So your sister can diagnose illness from sight alone?? My god, why isn't she being sought after by the CDC?!?! I give you exhibit A for what a real imbecile looks like. There is literally no self awareness at all in this post. The ER was never a great place to end up before covid but now the unvaccinated are flooding hospitals all over the country, but they don't go there right away when they get sick, they wait, and wait, and wait till they're past the point where medical intervention can likely save them, but the hospital nevertheless has to treat them right away and put them in the icu, which is where they will eventually die from their own foolishness. If they got there first and they're still technically alive, they're not going to be moved for new patients entering. But please, be my guest and complain to them and give them your best Karen impersonation and list for them all the protocols. Let's see what they have to say about it.

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

 

[Cecilie1200]

So your sister can diagnose illness from sight alone?? My god, why isn't she being sought after by the CDC?!?! I give you exhibit A for what a real imbecile looks like. There is literally no self awareness at all in this post. The ER was never a great place to end up before covid but now the unvaccinated are flooding hospitals all over the country, but they don't go there right away when they get sick, they wait, and wait, and wait till they're past the point where medical intervention can likely save them, but the hospital nevertheless has to treat them right away and put them in the icu, which is where they will eventually die from their own foolishness. If they got there first and they're still technically alive, they're not going to be moved for new patients entering. But please, be my guest and complain to them and give them your best Karen impersonation and list for them all the protocols. Let's see what they have to say about it.

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

It amazes me that you're this shocked at the idea of assessing someone's symptoms visually. If you are this unaware of your surroundings, you must walk into doors a lot. Are you actually imagining that there are a lot of acutely life-threatening conditions with no visible symptoms? And no, the emergency room is not a "first come, first served" environment like your local Starbucks, lackwit. They DO, in fact, move earlier patients for incoming patients who are in more medical danger according to the triage list I gave you, which you didn't read because Saint Fauci didn't order you to. Are you actually imagining that if you go in with a broken arm and someone comes in after you from a three-car pileup on the freeway, the ER is going to put him in the hallway until your arm is set?

You remain Exhibit A of imbecility.

For the record, I skipped right over your parroted talking points of, "It's all the unvaccinated! No one else gets Covid if they've taken the holy government shot, and all the unvaccinated are dying in the streets in droves! Fauci told me so!"

I will note, since you're so ignorant of all things observational, that Covid produces a lot of visible symptoms when someone is sick enough from it to need an ER. The uber-scary Covid is just like any other illness, regardless of how much you've been ordered to fear it: if you aren't showing symptoms, you're not sick enough to need an ER.

Most of the people in that ER weren't showing any symptoms (which my sister, having an IQ with a whole extra digit over yours, was able to see and recognize), which means they had no business in an ER.

As for "Karening", this is another area in which the medical field - which you clearly hold in the same reverent awe as all ignorant savages do the gods they worship - differs from your pathetic everyday life: hospitals are subject to rigorous oversight by licensing boards, so they can't and don't just ignore official complaints the way McDonald's ignores you when you bitch about your fries being too cold.

The fact is that your masters have created a giant fuckery that has killed people with their Covid policies, and you have helped them to do so with your mindlessly ignorant drone behavior. Oh, and that you make the world a worse place by being in it. Covid is far less contagious and dangerous than your empty-headed foolishness.

 

[Cecilie1200]

While we're on the subject of Covid cultists trying to make excuses for the horrific damage they and their government-ordered panic have done to our healthcare system, let me just offer this proof (because, as a conservative, I actually make factual statements that have proof) that emergency rooms are being clogged with people who aren't actually sick:

Alabama emergency rooms overwhelmed by record visits

Hospital officials at UAB reported record-high emergency room visits and are asking people not to seek testing there for COVID-19. Several hospitals across the state have posted similar messages to social media.

www.al.com

MSN

www.msn.com

Emergency rooms overwhelmed due to COVID-19

Hospital emergency rooms in the state are overwhelmed due to the influx of COVID-19 patients.

www.wbal.com

Arizona health department: ERs are for medical emergencies, not COVID-19 testing

The Arizona Department of Health Services said Friday that because emergency rooms are at the front line of the COVID-19 response, the community should remember the rooms are reserved for medical emergencies only and not for COVID-19 testing.

ktar.com

 

[krichton]

It amazes me that you're this shocked at the idea of assessing someone's symptoms visually. If you are this unaware of your surroundings, you must walk into doors a lot. Are you actually imagining that there are a lot of acutely life-threatening conditions with no visible symptoms? And no, the emergency room is not a "first come, first served" environment like your local Starbucks, lackwit. They DO, in fact, move earlier patients for incoming patients who are in more medical danger according to the triage list I gave you, which you didn't read because Saint Fauci didn't order you to. Are you actually imagining that if you go in with a broken arm and someone comes in after you from a three-car pileup on the freeway, the ER is going to put him in the hallway until your arm is set?

You remain Exhibit A of imbecility.

For the record, I skipped right over your parroted talking points of, "It's all the unvaccinated! No one else gets Covid if they've taken the holy government shot, and all the unvaccinated are dying in the streets in droves! Fauci told me so!"

I will note, since you're so ignorant of all things observational, that Covid produces a lot of visible symptoms when someone is sick enough from it to need an ER. The uber-scary Covid is just like any other illness, regardless of how much you've been ordered to fear it: if you aren't showing symptoms, you're not sick enough to need an ER.

Most of the people in that ER weren't showing any symptoms (which my sister, having an IQ with a whole extra digit over yours, was able to see and recognize), which means they had no business in an ER.

As for "Karening", this is another area in which the medical field - which you clearly hold in the same reverent awe as all ignorant savages do the gods they worship - differs from your pathetic everyday life: hospitals are subject to rigorous oversight by licensing boards, so they can't and don't just ignore official complaints the way McDonald's ignores you when you bitch about your fries being too cold.

The fact is that your masters have created a giant fuckery that has killed people with their Covid policies, and you have helped them to do so with your mindlessly ignorant drone behavior. Oh, and that you make the world a worse place by being in it. Covid is far less contagious and dangerous than your empty-headed foolishness.

Nah, you're the president of your local chapter for imbeciles, i'm not even qualified to join, but thanks for thinking of me.

Let me first clear up this whole emergency room controversy you've manufactured in your head. The emergency room is just a waiting room for ppl who walk in. Even in the unlikely scenario that they are busy administrating tests, and not turning ppl away like they've probably been doing, this would have absolutely no impact on your mother. In any normal situation, your mother would automatically be brought into one of the care units from the ambulance and given a bed, they'd send her somewhere to run xrays. The person xraying her literally has no responsibility other than xraying. They have nothing to do with giving out covid tests and they aren't being dragged away from their duties to do so. What is very likely happening is, an understaffed amount of doctors and nurses are continuously being occupied by covidiots like yourself who come into the ER unable to breathe on their own, and are now forced to give round the clock care to in units typically occupied by your mother. You're continued arrogance and ignorance is in fact the reason patients like your mother are forgotten about, or if not forgotten, are not made a priority. Be mad at ppl like you.

The charts here tell it all.

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

 

[beagle9]

The day before yesterday, my 84-year-old mother was walking across my sister's living room, fell down, and started having something that looked like a seizure. My sister, of course, called the paramedics and had her taken to the ER. Mom ended up spending the entire day in the ER. They determined that she has influenza-B, which then opened the door for her to get pneumonia. They don't know for sure what the falling and seizure thing was about, although they think she may have a blood clot interfering with the circulation to her brain.

Here's the thing. Normally, she would have had tests run, x-rays to find out how badly she damaged her hip (my sister thinks she might have broken it), and been admitted to the hospital. Instead, my sister found out at 2 pm that they hadn't even put in the order for the tests yet. Basically, they gave her a quick once-over, tested her for Covid, and since she doesn't have it, forgot that she was there. After a full day of sitting there and having nothing done for her whatsoever, my sister signed Mom out AMA (against medical advice) and brought her home to start looking for somewhere to get her the care she needs. She reported that the hospital was clogged up with people who aren't even particularly sick, but are terrified and panicked about "the 'rona". And the doctors and nurses can't seem to wrap their brains around the idea that there's any other illness or medical condition in the world besides Covid.

Mom could have had a stroke. We don't know, because we can't get anyone to do the tests and find out. If she has a blood clot, which she has a history of and is on blood-thinners for, it could break loose and go to her brain or heart and kill her. But it's not "the 'rona", so it doesn't matter. Fucking pneumonia is THE number one killer of the elderly. But to everyone's mind, the only respiratory problem in the world is Covid. Who cares if your lungs are filled with fluid, so long as it's not full of "the 'rona"?

Enough is fucking enough with this insane panic. Our loved ones are not statistics for politicians to use and sacrifice for their agenda and personal power.

Sorry to hear about your mom.. My aunt is looking for another Doctor as well, because she's tired of the bull crap. Hope she finds one, but in the mean time she'll keep chopping wood, feeding her fireplace, and reading books. She fell flat her face yesterday, and I looked over at her, and she was laughing at herself, so I just said "get up from there lady"... LOL. She looked like she was making a dirt Angle while on her stomach. The good thing is that she is short, so she don't have to far to fall.

Everyone was ok... Hope I cheered ya up for a second. God bless.

 

[beagle9]

Update on my mom: Her primary care doctor got her meds for her pneumonia and influenza-B, and her respiratory issues have abated. We narrowed her structural issues from her fall to her back, her hip, and her shoulder. For a while, she was in horrible pain all the time, which left her exhausted and depressed. She has an appointment with a spine specialist, and in the meantime, her primary care doctor also arranged for a steroid shot and some mild, VERY-seldom pain meds, which have abated a lot of the pain. I've been going over to my sister's to spend time with her almost every day, and also to help my sister with things like giving sponge baths, cook food, etc. We also made arrangements for her to get a home health aide to come in a couple of times a week, and a physical therapist to make visits and help her get mobile again.

On the downside, she's started having panic attacks about not having someone else around for even a minute. The other day, I was heading over to momsit for a few hours while my sister and her husband went out for lunch with his grandma. I got delayed because of an accident on the freeway, and my sister called to see where I was. I told her what happened, and that I was now on the last road before their house, about 5 minutes away. She suggested the possibility of them going ahead and leaving, since I was literally almost at the house. Mom freaked. She told me afterwards that she's had a couple of panic attacks when she called Sis and didn't get a response right away, and she's a bit distraught about it. Didn't understand why it was happening and thought she was going nuts or something. I explained that OF COURSE she's afraid of being alone, because she's dependent on us for everything right now, and being helpless if something bad happened would be terrifying. I assured her that once she felt better and was more mobile, the panic attacks would fade.

It's actually a little weird how comforting both she and my sister find my company, given that I don't seem to do much, at least from my perspective. I mostly just talk about all the stuff going on with my silly jobs, my kids, current events, whatever. But it really seems to help them both, I guess by taking their minds off Mom's issues. Raising people's spirits turns out to be one of my major talents in this scenario, which is just bizarre.

We're taking care of my wife's mom. Yes it's very helpful to have family and support. That's a rare thing now a day's for many.

 

[Likkmee]

Head a few thousand miles south and get some proper care

 

[surada]

That's pocket change compared to the number of babies that are killed due to abortion.

Abortions have been steadily decreasing for the past 30 years.

 

[Stryder50]

No telling, but 100% of them will die of having been alive.

Exactly.
Life is a terminal condition.

 

[Stryder50]

What’s the Point of a Primary Care Doctor?​

They seem to exist entirely to funnel patients to more expensive specialists—but it may be the consumer, not the healthcare industry, who’s really to blame for this, and we’re suffering as a result.
...

What’s the Point of a Primary Care Doctor?

They seem to exist entirely to funnel patients to more expensive specialists—but it may be the consumer, not the healthcare industry, who’s really to blame for this, and we’re suffering as a result.

getpocket.com

 

[eagle1462010]

What’s the Point of a Primary Care Doctor?​

They seem to exist entirely to funnel patients to more expensive specialists—but it may be the consumer, not the healthcare industry, who’s really to blame for this, and we’re suffering as a result.​

...​

What’s the Point of a Primary Care Doctor?

They seem to exist entirely to funnel patients to more expensive specialists—but it may be the consumer, not the healthcare industry, who’s really to blame for this, and we’re suffering as a result.

getpocket.com

They do that for 2 reasons............MONEY.........MAIN ONE..........And to cover their ass from Ambulance chasing lawyers.