montelatici
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P F Tinmore, et al,
You missed the intention again. And you've stepped around the discussion. Article 30 does not apply to the Mandate for Lebanon or the Mandate for Palestine; as they were both segments of multiple Sanjuks (NOT STATES) of the former Ottoman Empire.
(COMMENT)What does all that have to do with my post?
RoccoR said:There was no requirement for the Allied Powers to take any action relative to the acceptance of the territory by treaty. Acceptance it all that is required.
Yes there was.
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Drawing up the framework of nationality, Article 30 of the Treaty of Lausanne stated:
“Turkish subjects habitually resident in territory which in accordance with the provisions of the present Treaty is detached from Turkey will become ipso facto, in the conditions laid down by the local law, nationals of the State to which such territory is transferred.”-------------------------
And being the citizens of Palestine it was their prerogative to determine immigration.
Actually NOT!
The Treaty of Lausanne had to cover a multitude of territorial issues over a vast number of territories. Article 30, like all the Articles of the Treaty, was not exclusively applicable to all.
Well before the Treaty of Lausanne (years), the Allied Powers had determined and made it known their intention to create special conditions for the territory (yet to be determined) of Palestine. Well before the treaty, the Allied Powers had determined the need for and the placement of a Jewish National Home; as well as the need for special consideration to unique immigration and citizenship requirements to bring the immigrants up in the same status as the inhabitants. Just as the Treaty was (generally) written to meet the entire landscape beyonds the boundaries of Turkey, the Mandate for Palestine contained the unique aspects and instructions to fulfill the intentions of the Allied Powers.
In 1916 Britain and France signed the Sykes-Picot Agreement, which divided the Arab region into Zones of Influence (ZoI). Lebanon and Syria were assigned to France, Jordan and Iraq to Britain and Palestine was to be internationalized. THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. In 1922 The Council of the League of Nations issued a Mandate for Palestine. The Mandate was in favor of the establishment for the Jewish people a homeland in Palestine.
Article 30 applied specifically to "States" (including Vassal or Tributary) detached from Turkey (The Balkan States, Egypt, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, Macedonia, Hungary, as examples) (Ottoman Partitions The Kingdoms of Nejd and Hejaz was formed, which in 1932 became the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, examples of States NOT covered by the Treaty of Lausanne). But in the Middle East, the Ottoman Territorial Administrations was broken down slightly difference into Sanjuks (Districts) and Vilayets (Provinces). But NOT States or self governing regions [Vassal (tribal) or Tributary (self-governing paying tribute)].... In the Middle East, the two Vilayets that include, what we consider today as Palestine, were the Vilayet of Beirut (including the Sanjuks of Latakia, Tripoli, Lebanon, Beirut, Acre, Balqa, Jerusalem), and the Vilayet of Syria (including the Sanjuks of Hama, Damascus, Hauran, and Maan). As I've mentioned many times before, the Region of Palestine was neither a State (Independent, Vassal or Tributary) or a Political Subdivision (Sanjuk or Vilayet). THUS, Article 30 is not applicable to the issue under discussion.
The Ottoman Empire/Turkish Republic renounces title and right to the Region we call Palestine, which was then was transferred to the Mandatory for administration and disposition under Article 16 (the future of these territories and islands being settled or to be settled by the parties concerned). Neither The Treaty of Lausanne or the Mandate for Palestine granted or promised the inhabitants any particular future or any future authority, or any specific territory (within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers). While that may have been an intention for most of the detached territories, the intention for Palestine was outlined in the Mandate.
Most Respectfully,
RThe Treaty of Lausanne had to cover a multitude of territorial issues over a vast number of territories. Article 30, like all the Articles of the Treaty, was not exclusively applicable to all.
Where does it say that?
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