Finally! First Gay Marriage In Florida!

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The lawyers are looking forward to the divorces.

Once a nation starts down the road of depravity and degredation it doesn't stop until the end. We won't either.

Leviticus 18:22

22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

What's the connection? What's the similarity?

The connection is you can't solely live by the Old Testament. Jesus died for your sins, thus making your point a moot one.

You Can t Quote Leviticus to Prove God Hates Homosexuality Bible-Thumping Liberal


Remember, God loves all. To hate in the name of God, is Blasphemy.

howey 11.22

God hates sin, the Bible says that, and homosexuality is sin. Why do idiots like you use the Bible when you refuse to believe it?

Fortunately your ridiculous, subjective myths are legally irrelevant.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The constitution doesn't mention separation of church and state.

Oh, yes it does.

1st amendment to the US Consitutition:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The word "separation" is not there, but the intent is quite obvious, for the very same reason why the pilgrims came to these shores in the first place.

No it doesn't. It says that government shall not enforce religion. Nowhere does it claim seperation of Church and state the way libtards say it does.

Wrong.
The Constitution exists only in the context of its case law; "but that's not in the Constitution" is a failed and ignorant 'argument.'

 

[mdk]

I can't wait for this issue to finally be settled legally. The debate will go on for many years to come but I am looking forward to the day when SC puts this issue to bed.

You mean like the SC put the issue of abortion to bed? Yeah, that worked.

Well if it is true with abortion then it must be true for this issue as well. Not hardly. Like I said, the debate will continue well after the SC rules.

It will continue until it's been accepted as normal by a majority of the population, which is what the gay movement is about. Or as long as there are people making money off of the 'discrimination of gays', it will be a manufactured issue and bled dry, just like the bogus race wars.

Poll after poll shows that majority of Americans do support gay getting married. The startling reversal of opinions concerning this issue over the last 15 years has been remarkable. Though I do agree with you to an extent, the business of discrimination (legitimate or not) is a money making industry. I often read cases about gays claiming to be discriminated against for being fired for violating a morality clause they sign. This happens most often in religious institutions. I have no sympathy for these folks because you singed the contract knowing damn well that you could be fired if your bosses found out that you were gay.

What's remarkable about it? The public has been indoctrinated via the media on a pretty constant basis, targeting the youngest generation, that it's normal and should be accepted, and to shun and belittle those who still insist that it's not normal behavior. I really don't think it's that remarkable. I really don't see it ending as being an issue either, even once all 50 states have a legal gay union, just like with the race wars, it will continue because they want the attention and like the benefits, i.e. attention, that victim hood brings to them. Next up will be to force churches to perform gay weddings and to accept their lifestyle, the goal is the destruction of religious foundation. This isn't the only issue doing that, it's just one part of the effort that's being made. Religion is the enemy of absolute power.

How deliriously dramatic. Churches have and will not be forced to marry anyone against their wishes. Churches can marry anyone or not marry anyone as they see fit and I fully support that right. Gays are getting married in many states and the church is not compelled to accept gays or even marry gays, nor should they be. This is also a reason why I support repealing public accommodation laws in most instances. Businesses owners should have the right to decide whom they wish to do business with and not have any fear of retribution from the local, state, or federal government. I want these people to shout from the roof top which people they will or won't do business with and let the free market decide if they are worthy of our support.

Perpetual victim-hood is a business and it is not certainly limited to the gay community. Religious folks have pretty nice share of the market as well.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Newby, you are a hetertic and a literalist, so you don't get it.

Jesus is talking about marriage not homosexuality. He does not exclude others, does he?

And how many in your congregation, or you yourself perhaps, have divorced?

I am glad you are willing for me to show you the light.

Is this thread about marriage, specifically gay marriage, or not?

That you would make the comment that He does not exclude others is assinine.

The church does not perform divorces, Jake, and sorry, but I've never been divorced, so wrong again!

Would you support your church performing gay marriage ceremonies?

Jesus is talking about marriage not homosexuality. Newby, give His condemnation of it, literally, please.

According to Jesus' word, you have no literal condemnation of homosexuality or of marriage equality.

I am glad you have never been divorced; neither have I.

No Christian and follower of Our Lord and Savior has any problem with marriage equality, except for heretics.

 

[JakeStarkey]

We are making progress with Newby, I am pleased to report.

 

[Newby]

You mean like the SC put the issue of abortion to bed? Yeah, that worked.

Well if it is true with abortion then it must be true for this issue as well. Not hardly. Like I said, the debate will continue well after the SC rules.

It will continue until it's been accepted as normal by a majority of the population, which is what the gay movement is about. Or as long as there are people making money off of the 'discrimination of gays', it will be a manufactured issue and bled dry, just like the bogus race wars.

Poll after poll shows that majority of Americans do support gay getting married. The startling reversal of opinions concerning this issue over the last 15 years has been remarkable. Though I do agree with you to an extent, the business of discrimination (legitimate or not) is a money making industry. I often read cases about gays claiming to be discriminated against for being fired for violating a morality clause they sign. This happens most often in religious institutions. I have no sympathy for these folks because you singed the contract knowing damn well that you could be fired if your bosses found out that you were gay.

What's remarkable about it? The public has been indoctrinated via the media on a pretty constant basis, targeting the youngest generation, that it's normal and should be accepted, and to shun and belittle those who still insist that it's not normal behavior. I really don't think it's that remarkable. I really don't see it ending as being an issue either, even once all 50 states have a legal gay union, just like with the race wars, it will continue because they want the attention and like the benefits, i.e. attention, that victim hood brings to them. Next up will be to force churches to perform gay weddings and to accept their lifestyle, the goal is the destruction of religious foundation. This isn't the only issue doing that, it's just one part of the effort that's being made. Religion is the enemy of absolute power.

How deliriously dramatic. Churches have and will not be forced to marry anyone against their wishes. Churches can marry anyone or not marry anyone as they see fit and I fully support that right. Gays are getting married in many states and the church is not compelled to accept gays or even marry gays, nor should they be. This is also a reason why I support repealing public accommodation laws in most instances. Businesses owners should have the right to decide whom they wish to do business with and not have any fear of retribution from the local, state, or federal government. I want these people to shout from the roof top which people they will or won't do business with and let the free market decide if they are worthy of our support.

Perpetual victim-hood is a business and it is not certainly limited to the gay community. Religious folks have pretty nice share of the market as well.

Nothing dramatic about it, just a simple statement of fact. It's happening, is it not? And while you personally may not support forcing churches, there are those out there who will, and it's only due to the constitution, which is being eroded as every day goes by, that keeps them from forcing their will on the churches. At least we agree on repealing public accommodation laws, it's nothing but tyranny. And no, gays don't have a corner on the market of victim hood, but they're certainly up there, and religious folks have pretty much no share of that market. We're in the majority, only minorities can be victims, particularly victims that help to put that so called 'moral majority' in their place. The funny part of that is that the left and their viewpoints are slowly becoming what they call the 'moral majority', wonder what will happen once that is fully realized? Wonder if they'll still think it's so wrong to force their morals on others? They've already shown themselves to be hypocrites on that score.

 

[Newby]

Newby, you are a hetertic and a literalist, so you don't get it.

Jesus is talking about marriage not homosexuality. He does not exclude others, does he?

And how many in your congregation, or you yourself perhaps, have divorced?

I am glad you are willing for me to show you the light.

Is this thread about marriage, specifically gay marriage, or not?

That you would make the comment that He does not exclude others is assinine.

The church does not perform divorces, Jake, and sorry, but I've never been divorced, so wrong again!

Would you support your church performing gay marriage ceremonies?

Jesus is talking about marriage not homosexuality. Newby, give His condemnation of it, literally, please.

According to Jesus' word, you have no literal condemnation of homosexuality or of marriage equality.

I am glad you have never been divorced; neither have I.

No Christian and follower of Our Lord and Savior has any problem with marriage equality, except for heretics.

This thread is about marriage, Jake, gay marriage. Look to the top of your screen and slowly try to read the title, I know it's difficult, but you're making yourself look ridiculous by ignoring the obvious. It's a hard habit for you to break apparently.

 

[Newby]

We are making progress with Newby, I am pleased to report.

Really? lol And what progress would that be?

 

[AmericanFirst]

The constitution doesn't mention separation of church and state.

Oh, yes it does.

1st amendment to the US Consitutition:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The word "separation" is not there, but the intent is quite obvious, for the very same reason why the pilgrims came to these shores in the first place.

No it doesn't. It says that government shall not enforce religion. Nowhere does it claim seperation of Church and state the way libtards say it does.

Wrong.
The Constitution exists only in the context of its case law; "but that's not in the Constitution" is a failed and ignorant 'argument.'

Wrong, as usual just because liberalism is wrong. Your argument is a failed and ignorant argument.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Newby, you are a hetertic and a literalist, so you don't get it.

Jesus is talking about marriage not homosexuality. He does not exclude others, does he?

And how many in your congregation, or you yourself perhaps, have divorced?

I am glad you are willing for me to show you the light.

Is this thread about marriage, specifically gay marriage, or not?

That you would make the comment that He does not exclude others is assinine.

The church does not perform divorces, Jake, and sorry, but I've never been divorced, so wrong again!

Would you support your church performing gay marriage ceremonies?

Jesus is talking about marriage not homosexuality. Newby, give His condemnation of it, literally, please.

According to Jesus' word, you have no literal condemnation of homosexuality or of marriage equality.

I am glad you have never been divorced; neither have I.

No Christian and follower of Our Lord and Savior has any problem with marriage equality, except for heretics.

No follower of Christ supports gay marriage. Jesus spoke about sexual immorality which gay is. God created Man and Woman, period. Your idiotic argument is nothing but satans hot air.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Leviticus 18:22

22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

What's the connection? What's the similarity?

The connection is you can't solely live by the Old Testament. Jesus died for your sins, thus making your point a moot one.

You Can t Quote Leviticus to Prove God Hates Homosexuality Bible-Thumping Liberal


Remember, God loves all. To hate in the name of God, is Blasphemy.

howey 11.22

God hates sin, the Bible says that, and homosexuality is sin. Why do idiots like you use the Bible when you refuse to believe it?

Fortunately your ridiculous, subjective myths are legally irrelevant.

No they are not. Satan worshipers like you are irrelevant in the end. Good luck idiot.

 

[JakeStarkey]

AmericanFirst and Newby obviously do not know our Lord and Savior but are relying on literalism falsely to define Him. I have Newby spinning like a top, but he is showing some progress.

Doesn't work, boys.

Jesus never spoke about homosexuality and never condemned marriage equality. If He did, then show us where He said it.

The heretics of the social on right can't do that.

 

[Syriusly]

Well if it is true with abortion then it must be true for this issue as well. Not hardly. Like I said, the debate will continue well after the SC rules.

It will continue until it's been accepted as normal by a majority of the population, which is what the gay movement is about. Or as long as there are people making money off of the 'discrimination of gays', it will be a manufactured issue and bled dry, just like the bogus race wars.

Poll after poll shows that majority of Americans do support gay getting married. The startling reversal of opinions concerning this issue over the last 15 years has been remarkable. Though I do agree with you to an extent, the business of discrimination (legitimate or not) is a money making industry. I often read cases about gays claiming to be discriminated against for being fired for violating a morality clause they sign. This happens most often in religious institutions. I have no sympathy for these folks because you singed the contract knowing damn well that you could be fired if your bosses found out that you were gay.

What's remarkable about it? The public has been indoctrinated via the media on a pretty constant basis, targeting the youngest generation, that it's normal and should be accepted, and to shun and belittle those who still insist that it's not normal behavior. .

Are we talking about mixed race relationships?

Or gay relationships.

Actually your comment would apply to both.

We are moving forward.

So you're equating being black to wanting to have sex with the same gender as yourself?

I didn't mention black at all.

Are we talking about mixed race relationships?

Or gay relationships.

Actually your comment would apply to both.

We are moving forward

 

[JakeStarkey]

Newby, you are a hetertic and a literalist, so you don't get it.

Jesus is talking about marriage not homosexuality. He does not exclude others, does he?

And how many in your congregation, or you yourself perhaps, have divorced?

I am glad you are willing for me to show you the light.

Is this thread about marriage, specifically gay marriage, or not?

That you would make the comment that He does not exclude others is assinine.

The church does not perform divorces, Jake, and sorry, but I've never been divorced, so wrong again!

Would you support your church performing gay marriage ceremonies?

Jesus is talking about marriage not homosexuality. Newby, give His condemnation of it, literally, please.

According to Jesus' word, you have no literal condemnation of homosexuality or of marriage equality.

I am glad you have never been divorced; neither have I.

No Christian and follower of Our Lord and Savior has any problem with marriage equality, except for heretics.

No follower of Christ supports gay marriage. Jesus spoke about sexual immorality which gay is. God created Man and Woman, period. Your idiotic argument is nothing but satans hot air.

Who says you speak for Christians, pretender?

Your opinions are not any sort of authoritative statement.

Move along.

 

[Syriusly]

Well if it is true with abortion then it must be true for this issue as well. Not hardly. Like I said, the debate will continue well after the SC rules.

It will continue until it's been accepted as normal by a majority of the population, which is what the gay movement is about. Or as long as there are people making money off of the 'discrimination of gays', it will be a manufactured issue and bled dry, just like the bogus race wars.

Poll after poll shows that majority of Americans do support gay getting married. The startling reversal of opinions concerning this issue over the last 15 years has been remarkable. Though I do agree with you to an extent, the business of discrimination (legitimate or not) is a money making industry. I often read cases about gays claiming to be discriminated against for being fired for violating a morality clause they sign. This happens most often in religious institutions. I have no sympathy for these folks because you singed the contract knowing damn well that you could be fired if your bosses found out that you were gay.

What's remarkable about it? The public has been indoctrinated via the media on a pretty constant basis, targeting the youngest generation, that it's normal and should be accepted, and to shun and belittle those who still insist that it's not normal behavior. .

Are we talking about mixed race relationships?

Or gay relationships.

Actually your comment would apply to both.

We are moving forward.

So you're equating being black to wanting to have sex with the same gender as yourself?

And still waiting for you to show how I lied.

I mean a 'good Christian' like you wouldn't bear false witness would you?

Please feel free to point out anything I have lied about- I will make it easier for you- I will put in red my words- the rest are a direct quote from the Bible:

Yet not once does Jesus condemn homosexuality.

He doesn't even mention it as one of the commandments that his followers must follow in order to go heaven

8Jesus replied, “Moses permitted divorce only as a concession to your hard hearts, but it was not what God had originally intended. 9And I tell you this, whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery—unless his wife has been unfaithful.d”

10Jesus’ disciples then said to him, “If this is the case, it is better not to marry!”

11“Not everyone can accept this statement,” Jesus said. “Only those whom God helps. 12Some are born as eunuchs, some have been made eunuchs by others, and some choose not to marrye for the sake of the Kingdom of Heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.”

16Someone came to Jesus with this question: “Teacher,f what good deed must I do to have eternal life?”

17“Why ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. But to answer your question—if you want to receive eternal life, keepg the commandments.”

18“Which ones?” the man asked.

And Jesus replied: “‘You must not murder. You must not commit adultery. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely.19Honor your father and mother. Love your neighbor as yourself.

 

[AmericanFirst]

AmericanFirst and Newby obviously do not know our Lord and Savior but are relying on literalism falsely to define Him. I have Newby spinning like a top, but he is showing some progress.

Doesn't work, boys.

Jesus never spoke about homosexuality and never condemned marriage equality. If He did, then show us where He said it.

The heretics of the social on right can't do that.

Read the Bible starting with the book of Matthew. But first you will have to find your brain you lost while playing with it. Good luck.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Newby is bearing false witness, saying that Jesus said something he did not. Show us exactly where Jesus condemns homosexuality and marriage equality.

Marriage equality for the nation is almost here, it will be the law of the land, and your sole act that you disagree will be to not marry someone of your own sex.

You can disbelieve all you want, and no one will care.

 

[JakeStarkey]

AmericanFirst and Newby obviously do not know our Lord and Savior but are relying on literalism falsely to define Him. I have Newby spinning like a top, but he is showing some progress.

Doesn't work, boys.

Jesus never spoke about homosexuality and never condemned marriage equality. If He did, then show us where He said it.

The heretics of the social on right can't do that.

Read the Bible starting with the book of Matthew. But first you will have to find your brain you lost while playing with it. Good luck.

AF the Heretic is babbling.

Show us exactly where Jesus condemned homosexuality and marriage equality.

 

[AmericanFirst]

It will continue until it's been accepted as normal by a majority of the population, which is what the gay movement is about. Or as long as there are people making money off of the 'discrimination of gays', it will be a manufactured issue and bled dry, just like the bogus race wars.

Poll after poll shows that majority of Americans do support gay getting married. The startling reversal of opinions concerning this issue over the last 15 years has been remarkable. Though I do agree with you to an extent, the business of discrimination (legitimate or not) is a money making industry. I often read cases about gays claiming to be discriminated against for being fired for violating a morality clause they sign. This happens most often in religious institutions. I have no sympathy for these folks because you singed the contract knowing damn well that you could be fired if your bosses found out that you were gay.

What's remarkable about it? The public has been indoctrinated via the media on a pretty constant basis, targeting the youngest generation, that it's normal and should be accepted, and to shun and belittle those who still insist that it's not normal behavior. .

Are we talking about mixed race relationships?

Or gay relationships.

Actually your comment would apply to both.

We are moving forward.

So you're equating being black to wanting to have sex with the same gender as yourself?

And still waiting for you to show how I lied.

I mean a 'good Christian' like you wouldn't bear false witness would you?

Please feel free to point out anything I have lied about- I will make it easier for you- I will put in red my words- the rest are a direct quote from the Bible:

Yet not once does Jesus condemn homosexuality.

He doesn't even mention it as one of the commandments that his followers must follow in order to go heaven

8Jesus replied, “Moses permitted divorce only as a concession to your hard hearts, but it was not what God had originally intended. 9And I tell you this, whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery—unless his wife has been unfaithful.d”

10Jesus’ disciples then said to him, “If this is the case, it is better not to marry!”

11“Not everyone can accept this statement,” Jesus said. “Only those whom God helps. 12Some are born as eunuchs, some have been made eunuchs by others, and some choose not to marrye for the sake of the Kingdom of Heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.”

16Someone came to Jesus with this question: “Teacher,f what good deed must I do to have eternal life?”

17“Why ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. But to answer your question—if you want to receive eternal life, keepg the commandments.”

18“Which ones?” the man asked.

And Jesus replied: “‘You must not murder. You must not commit adultery. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely.19Honor your father and mother. Love your neighbor as yourself.

What a great non answer. Reference the correct Bible verses and you might be believed. Matthew 19 5,9 Jesus reinforces marriage between Man an Woman and condemns sexuall immorality which gay is. I have said it before, non believers trying to use the Bible to support their stupidity are a joke.

 

[JakeStarkey]

To paraphrase Hitchens: "The babyish rumor-fueled tantrums [of the Newbys and the AmericanFirsts] that erupt all the time, especially in the [so-called social con 'Christian'] world, show yet again that [unreasoning] faith belongs to the spoiled and selfish childhood of our species."

Where does Jesus condemn homosexuality or marriage equality?