Fewer illegal aliens means more jobs and a better economy for American citizens

[Lesh]

And prejudice. Remember, their data source is "driving through the ghetto" and seeing all the people on welfare who they think are going to get jobs.

And they also talked about shipping these people to, like, Alabama for some reason? Maybe they'll load them on trains or something. Who knows?

What was that sign over the entrance to Auschwitz?

Arbecht Mach Frei?

 

[Lisa558]

Your number is a very dubious source.

CATO did a thorough review of the data earlier this month.

https://www.cato.org/white-paper/immigrants-recent-effects-government-budgets-1994-2023

Table 10

Illegal immigrants likely reduced deficits by $1.7 trillion​

How about linking to Table 10 rather than send me to a 100-page document!

 

[struth]

I don’t know where you get the idea that illegal aliens are a net negative. Facts show that for the 12 years leading up to 2023 they are a net POSITIVE to the tune of 1.7 trillion.

As far as “exploiting cheap labor”… you must be a proponent of major increases in minimum wage

I suspect not

Because exploiting people for cheap labor is a stain on our country

 

[Marener]

How about linking to Table 10 rather than send me to a 100-page document!

The entitled generation strikes again!

As though you're incapable of scanning a document to find the relevant information.

https://www.cato.org/white-paper/immigrants-recent-effects-government-budgets-1994-2023#why-illegal-immigrants-were-fiscally-positive

 

[LeftofLeft]

Inflation was world wide you dope. It wasn’t due to either Trump or Biden

It was due to Covid

I recognized the worldwide impact of it. The Co-Presidents and Democrat Congress exacerbated the impacts of COVID Inflation when they passed the largest spending bill in history. If you are so smart, prove me wrong.

 

[Lesh]

I recognized the worldwide impact of it. The Co-Presidents and Democrat Congress exacerbated the impacts of COVID Inflation when they passed the largest spending bill in history. If you are so smart, prove me wrong.

Prove you wrong?

I already noted how much both Biden and Trump dumped into the economy to keep it running

 

[Lesh]

Because exploiting people for cheap labor is a stain on our country

Yeah. Good thing THAT never happened in this country

 

[Lisa558]

You chose the word, not me.



This is not a plan. It's campaign rhetoric. A fantasy.

YOU were the one who just came up with the phrase “forced labor” - not me.

You are showing the problems with Left Think we every post, You think that unless we give other people’s money to those who refuse to work, we would be “forcing” them to get a job.

THAT is a good thing! Do you wan to have to pay for your adult child’s rent, food, medical care while he lazes home on the couch for years at age 30, 40, and 50?

The entitled generation strikes again!

As though you're incapable of scanning a document to find the relevant information.

https://www.cato.org/white-paper/immigrants-recent-effects-government-budgets-1994-2023#why-illegal-immigrants-were-fiscally-positive

Theres no table of contents - just 100 pages of figures and tables and content. But from what I saw, they’re linking immigrants into one pot.

Legal immigrants are totally different than the 3rd-world illiterates coming in and ruining neighborhoods and schools,

 

[Marener]

Because exploiting people for cheap labor is a stain on our country

Conservatives love exploiting people for cheap labor.

Principally young people.

 

[Mr Natural]

Conservatives love exploiting people for cheap labor.

Principally young people.

It’s what they do best.

 

[Lisa558]

Conservatives love exploiting people for cheap labor.

Principally young people.

Leftists love keeping Americans on welfare, so they can buy their votes with more free shit.

 

[martybegan]

What was that sign over the entrance to Auschwitz?

Arbecht Mach Frei?

That phrase was actually something from a German novel and had a positive connotation. It was then bastardized by the Nazis, like so many other things.

The expression comes from the title of an 1873 novel by the German philologist Lorenz Diefenbach, Arbeit macht frei: Erzählung von Lorenz Diefenbach, in which gamblers and fraudsters find the path to virtue through labour.[4][5] "The truth will set you free" (Vēritās līberābit vōs) is a statement of Jesus found in John 8:32—"And ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free" (KJV).

Arbeit macht frei - Wikipedia

 

[Lesh]

It would be cheaper for us to build subsidized housing in Alabama and relocate some welfare bums in Detroit, NY, Baltimore, wherever, to do those jobs.

If that doesn’t sound like the government imposing forced labor…

And a Jew talking about “relocating people for their labor”?

Jesus

 

[martybegan]

Conservatives love exploiting people for cheap labor.

Principally young people.

So we want both cheap labor AND to have costs of labor rise due to wanting to get rid of illegal workers?

You can't have both, shithead.

 

[Lesh]

That phrase was actually something from a German novel and had a positive connotation. It was then bastardized by the Nazis, like so many other things.



Arbeit macht frei - Wikipedia

That changes nothing

 

[Mr Natural]

And you people think millennials are gonna put down their phones and go pick lettuce?

 

[Marener]

YOU were the one who just came up with the phrase “forced labor” - not me.

You are showing the problems with Left Think we every post, You think that unless we give other people’s money to those who refuse to work, we would be “forcing” them to get a job.

It was literally your choice to use the word "forced", so either retract your own statement or stop whining.

THAT is a good thing! Do you want to have to pay for your adult child’s rent, food, medical care while he lazes home on the couch for years at age 30, 40, and 50?

I don't, but plenty of older people do. Don't ask me how it came to that. It's not my problem.

Your problem is dramatically overestimating the population of able Americans surviving off government benefits who chose not to work. Moreover, you're dramatically overestimating the effect policy changes will have on their choice not to work.

Theres no table of contents - just 100 pages of figures and tables and content. But from what I saw, they’re linking immigrants into one pot.

Legal immigrants are totally different than the 3rd-world illiterates coming in and ruining neighborhoods and schools,

I have no idea what you're talking about. On desktop, the website has a very nice navigation meny on the left. On mobile, the website has a very nice navigation menu in the top right. I didn't link to the PDF document, but if you somehow wandered into the PDF document, the table of contents is on the 4th page.

If that's what you saw, then you really didn't look over the information. Your prejudice just oozes from every post.

 

[martybegan]

That changes nothing

It changes everything. The idea that work is liberating isn't something the Nazis invented, as you are implying.

It's something they mocked and bastardized.

Your attempted correlation is bullshit.

 

[Marener]

Leftists love keeping Americans on welfare, so they can buy their votes with more free shit.

Shithole states like Florida want to loosen child labor laws so teenagers can work as many hours as they want instead of focusing on school.

Sounds pretty exploitative to me.

 

[martybegan]

And you people think millennials are gonna put down their phones and go pick lettuce?

For those jobs we have temporary worker programs in place.

They come here, they work, they go home. All legal, all on the books.

We might just need to expand them.