Fewer illegal aliens means more jobs and a better economy for American citizens

[Dragonlady]

In fact deporting illegal alien workers - including illegals without a criminal record - forces employers to hire American workers and pay higher wages

But it enrages globalist America-last libs

Except for the fact that this is NOT what is happening. Americans are not harvesting crops, or working in restaurants. Businesses are closing for lack of workers.

It would be different if you had high unemployment to start with but you had 5 million job openings you couldn't fill. You didn't need more jobs. You needed more workers. You need higher wages for your workers. Since you stubbornly refuse to raise the minimum wage, all you've done is force marginal businesses to close because they can't afford to pay a living wage.

Until you raise ALL wages for hourly workers, things will only continue to get worse.

 

[Hafar1014]

Except for the fact that this is NOT what is happening. Americans are not harvesting crops, or working in restaurants. Businesses are closing for lack of workers.

It would be different if you had high unemployment to start with but you had 5 million job openings you couldn't fill. You didn't need more jobs. You needed more workers. You need higher wages for your workers. Since you stubbornly refuse to raise the minimum wage, all you've done is force marginal businesses to close because they can't afford to pay a living wage.

Until you raise ALL wages for hourly workers, things will only continue to get worse.

There is still food in the stores so someone is working

 

[Lisa558]

Except for the fact that this is NOT what is happening. Americans are not harvesting crops, or working in restaurants. Businesses are closing for lack of workers.

It would be different if you had high unemployment to start with but you had 5 million job openings you couldn't fill. You didn't need more jobs. You needed more workers. You need higher wages for your workers. Since you stubbornly refuse to raise the minimum wage, all you've done is force marginal businesses to close because they can't afford to pay a living wage.

Until you raise ALL wages for hourly workers, things will only continue to get worse.

We need to reduce welfare so that people will take jobs.

 

[Hafar1014]

Lets have prisoners harvest crops at no cost at all

 

[Winston]

Better that they do them for $12 an hour than go on welfare. Remember….these people have no job skills and no education. There are limits to what they can do.

If you are serious about moving people from welfare to work you have to address the benefits cliff.

https://aspe.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/private/aspe-files/260661/brief2-overviewmtranalyses.pdf

Among households with children, when earnings increase by $2,000 (see Figure1, dark red line), median marginal tax rates rise precipitously from negative 22 percent1 (when family income is 24 percent of poverty or less) to 51 percent(when family income is just above poverty). Marginal tax rates then stay fairly high, with median families netting between $980 to $1,160 after the $2,000 earnings increase (reflecting marginal tax rate
That is just the average. Marginal tax rates can exceed one hundred percent in some cases. Funny, you don't expect the wealthy to pay fifty cents on the dollar, but the person, living just at the poverty level, you fully expect them to only keep fifty cents on the dollar of any additional income.

The ripples of the benefits cliff go beyond a single family. Businesses also lose. The benefits cliff is one reason why employers might struggle to fill key roles in their companies. It keeps people out of the workforce who might otherwise step into jobs. In some career paths, it holds back strong workers who are otherwise ready and able to move up into higher-level roles in a workplace.

Employers may not know that the benefits cliff is a reason people aren’t taking jobs and promotions. They can misinterpret the reluctance as people not wanting to work or advance in their careers. Even if they do understand the problem, employers sometimes can’t afford to keep employees who refuse more hours or a promotion for fear of a cliff.

Ultimately, the benefits cliff can end up affecting everyone in the economy. People trying to move up years-long career ladders in fields like nursing, home health care, child care, and social work may be held back by one or more benefits cliffs along that path.

Those cliffs impact staffing levels at hospitals, schools, and care facilities. That means there may not be someone in a vital role to help or care for you or a family member when and where you need them most.

The benefits cliff, explained

Why is the benefits cliff issue so hard to address? And what are some communities doing to take on the problem in the face of that challenge?

fedcommunities.org

 

[Lisa558]

Lets have prisoners harvest crops at no cost at all

With the money we save getting the illegals out of here, we can build prisons in farm areas.

 

[Care4all]

I say we go back to the system that Trump has: let them wait in Mexico. The slim minority who truly need asylum will wait there. The majority who are liars won’t bother and will stay where they are.

We need immigration judges...our entire illegal problem stems from not having enough immigration judges....

We have 70,000 illegals in detention centers, paying a fortune to house them, and only 7 % are rapists, murderers and violent criminals.....it is costing us more than all welfare combined spent on illegal entry aliens.... to house illegals in these detention centers owned privately by his FRIENDS for most of them, of which trump is looking to build a dozen more....again costing us more!

He is really messing up on this......

 

[Rambunctious]

Are you under the impression that there’s a lot of Americans who aren’t working because of illegal aliens?

Bingo!!!!! its a fact jack!... Fish cutting operations are now hiring legal citizens only for the first time in 25 years....
Its a good job with great benefits...

 

[cnm]

I class 99% of asylum seekers as liars told to claim it because it allows them to stay in the system as long as possible.

Yet they're abiding by the supreme law of the land, which your way of life has you respecting, apparently.

 

[cnm]

There is a legal process that will vet that out.....if you want it quicker, have Trump hire more immigration judges instead of spending billions building detention centers and paying to keep illegals there.....for years till they get their court hearing.

Chump told them to not pass Biden's bill that would have sped up clearing the backlog. The cult cheered.

 

[Lisa558]

We need immigration judges...our entire illegal problem stems from not having enough immigration judges....

We have 70,000 illegals in detention centers, paying a fortune to house them, and only 7 % are rapists, murderers and violent criminals.....it is costing us more than all welfare combined spent on illegal entry aliens.... to house illegals in these detention centers owned privately by his FRIENDS for most of them, of which trump is looking to build a dozen more....again costing us more!

He is really messing up on this......

He stopped the massive inflow of illegals. That right there is a HUGE accomplishment, thus reversing Biden and the Dems efforts to import as many illegals as possible.

 

[Lisa558]

Yet they're abiding by the supreme law of the land, which your way of life has you respecting, apparently.

Not if they’re lying about it. There is nothing in the law that says it is OK to make up bogus asylum claims.

 

[Winston]

Here’s the thing that libtards don’t understand: if unskilled, semi-literate, low-paid people get enough of OPM to live comfortably, what’s the incentive to focus in school and get post-school career training?

And yet it is not always unskilled, semi-literate, low-paid individuals now is it? You know my story well, although I did work, just not much and backloaded every bit of income I could. I was not going to pay a marginal tax rate north of fifty percent. I didn't get rental assistance. I got EBT and the EITC.

You asked about the incentive and that is a legitimate question. But take it from someone that has done it. When my kids were grown I climbed over that benefits cliff. At that point, the marginal tax rate was only a bit over 20%. That move, from poverty level to more than twice poverty level, was pretty damn tough. It should not be that hard.

 

[candycorn]

In fact deporting illegal alien workers - including illegals without a criminal record - forces employers to hire American workers and pay higher wages

But it enrages globalist America-last libs

Meanwhile back in reality, there is a rash of layoffs.

 

[Care4all]

Chump told them to not pass Biden's bill that would have sped up clearing the backlog. The cult cheered.

Yes....Trump stopped Rs in the Senate from passing the very very good and strong immigration Bill that could be carried consistency from president to president instead of each president using executive orders and changing from President to President.

 

[candycorn]

Why? Fewer mouths to feed means lower food prices due to the LAW of Supply and Demand.
Deporting millions of illegals has to lower food and housing prices.

Your partisan lies are easy to disprove.

Look back. When Biden's open borders let in 12,000,000 or so illegals, and then gave them free food and free housing, inflation skyrocketed. Simple fact. The LAW of Supply and Demand.

Here Are The Benefits Asylum Seekers Actually Get In New York City - Documented

Can asylum seekers receive cash assistance? Free housing? This guide clarifies what public assistance is available to these migrant groups.

documentedny.com

Would you agree that importers import less because of the tariffs?
Would you agree that less imports mean less supply?
Would you agree with what you just stated--less supply means higher prices?

 

[kevinthrowe]

That’s because they are getting so much on welfare. Reduce it, and they’ll work.

I knew someone who was paying $87 a month to rent a 3-bedroom townhouse (the rest paid by taxpayers), several hundreds of tax-free dollars for food, and free Medicaid. Why would she want to get a job?

You really want those people handing your food?
Most of the need for social safety nets are our inability to create the better America
Create the reward for corporations hiring rather than downsizing
Create a healthcare system that is based on providing healthcare rather than immoral profits
Create a tax system that discourages greed
Stop finding small examples to show hate

 

[drudge X]

The ametican way of life is survival. The so called dream is a life of work, like a robot. Get up, go to work, come home. Wash rinse, repeat. Mundane.

I guess the Somalis committed fraud are smart after all. Why work when gullible Americans are working to support them.

 

[drudge X]

Meanwhile back in reality, there is a rash of layoffs.

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So the country does not have a shortage of workers it seems. AI is disrupting just about every industry with the exception of the hands on type of industry.

 

[Lisa558]

Yes....Trump stopped Rs in the Senate from passing the very very good and strong immigration Bill that could be carried consistency from president to president instead of each president using executive orders and changing from President to President.

The one that let in 5000 illegals per day? LOL