FEDS fund resettlement of climate change refugees

[flacaltenn]

Thank you President Obama (two-term, President). He gets what happens when you add together relentless pillaging of the environment by the extraction industries and the resultant climate change

Resettling the First American ‘Climate Refugees’

For over a century, the American Indians on the island fished, hunted, trapped and farmed among the lush banana and pecan trees that once spread out for acres. But since 1955, more than 90 percent of the island’s original land mass has washed away. Channels cut by loggers and oil companies eroded much of the island, and decades of flood control efforts have kept once free-flowing rivers from replenishing the wetlands’ sediments. Some of the island was swept away by hurricanes.

What little remains will eventually be inundated as burning fossil fuels melt polar ice sheets and drive up sea levels, projected the National Climate Assessment, a report of 13 federal agencies that highlighted the Isle de Jean Charles and its tribal residents as among the nation’s most vulnerable.

Discuss.....

You did this topic 3 or 4 weeks ago and abandoned the thread then. You suppose it will be different this time?? That island is not disappearing from "climate change".. It's disappearing BY DESIGN of the Army Corps of Engineers.. When you protect cities on the banks of the river by building levees and controllable flood plains -- tiny islands in the MIDDLE OF THE CHANNEL ---- go bye-bye...

Lord -- the left has so little knowledge of how things actually work -- it's easy to impress them with folklore and sad stories... .

 

[elektra]

Is not the government great, $48 million dollars to move 60 people? How could it cost so much?

One of those grants, $48 million for Isle de Jean Charles, is something new: the first allocation of federal tax dollars to move an entire community struggling with the impacts of climate change

 

[elektra]

Democrats will fabricate a story to fit the narrative, power and money, man is driven by greed.

The Mississippi is changing direction and man believes he can control nature. This story is old. Like all things the Democrats can only take the old and try to make it sound new, like it is something they discovered.. Socialist, they literally are vultures.

Unfortunately, most folks ain't read much.
The Control of Nature - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The book begins by describing how the Atchafalaya River drains 30 percent of theMississippi River at its source 300 miles upriver from New Orleans. Thanks to its steeper gradient and more direct route, the Atchafalaya seeks to change the course of the Mississippi as has happened in its long geological history. Due to the Mississippi's vital importance to industry, the Army Corps of Engineers constructed a control structure at the Atchafalaya's source to prevent this from occurring and to maintain the 30 percent drainage. McPhee explains how Morgan City, Louisiana would be destroyed if the river's banks increase. Three million cubic feet of water would inundate the town in the case of a hundred-year flood, though the Corps of Engineers has been trying its hardest to build a more stable flood structure.[2]

 

[Dot Com]

Thank you President Obama (two-term, President). He gets what happens when you add together relentless pillaging of the environment by the extraction industries and the resultant climate change

Resettling the First American ‘Climate Refugees’

For over a century, the American Indians on the island fished, hunted, trapped and farmed among the lush banana and pecan trees that once spread out for acres. But since 1955, more than 90 percent of the island’s original land mass has washed away. Channels cut by loggers and oil companies eroded much of the island, and decades of flood control efforts have kept once free-flowing rivers from replenishing the wetlands’ sediments. Some of the island was swept away by hurricanes.

What little remains will eventually be inundated as burning fossil fuels melt polar ice sheets and drive up sea levels, projected the National Climate Assessment, a report of 13 federal agencies that highlighted the Isle de Jean Charles and its tribal residents as among the nation’s most vulnerable.

Discuss.....

You did this topic 3 or 4 weeks ago and abandoned the thread then. You suppose it will be different this time?? That island is not disappearing from "climate change".. It's disappearing BY DESIGN of the Army Corps of Engineers.. When you protect cities on the banks of the river by building levees and controllable flood plains -- tiny islands in the MIDDLE OF THE CHANNEL ---- go bye-bye...

Lord -- the left has so little knowledge of how things actually work -- it's easy to impress them with folklore and sad stories... .

by design? Link?

 

[flacaltenn]

Thank you President Obama (two-term, President). He gets what happens when you add together relentless pillaging of the environment by the extraction industries and the resultant climate change

Resettling the First American ‘Climate Refugees’

For over a century, the American Indians on the island fished, hunted, trapped and farmed among the lush banana and pecan trees that once spread out for acres. But since 1955, more than 90 percent of the island’s original land mass has washed away. Channels cut by loggers and oil companies eroded much of the island, and decades of flood control efforts have kept once free-flowing rivers from replenishing the wetlands’ sediments. Some of the island was swept away by hurricanes.

What little remains will eventually be inundated as burning fossil fuels melt polar ice sheets and drive up sea levels, projected the National Climate Assessment, a report of 13 federal agencies that highlighted the Isle de Jean Charles and its tribal residents as among the nation’s most vulnerable.

Discuss.....

You did this topic 3 or 4 weeks ago and abandoned the thread then. You suppose it will be different this time?? That island is not disappearing from "climate change".. It's disappearing BY DESIGN of the Army Corps of Engineers.. When you protect cities on the banks of the river by building levees and controllable flood plains -- tiny islands in the MIDDLE OF THE CHANNEL ---- go bye-bye...

Lord -- the left has so little knowledge of how things actually work -- it's easy to impress them with folklore and sad stories... .

by design? Link?

Damn kiddo -- I checked and the ORIGINAL THREAD on this sad story was NOT yours.. Sorry -- I thought you had done this before. It was Matthew..

You can read my responses starting at 'There's no more land'

 

[elektra]

Thank god for the saving grace of the government.
So Now We’re Shelling Out Money For 'Climate Refugees'

The latest development in the fundamental transformation of America involves throwing money to resettle "climate refugees."

The New York Times reports that the Department of Housing and Urban Development will shell out $48 million to Isle de Jean Charles, LA "to move an entire community struggling with the impacts of climate change." The program will attempt to resettle 60 people and the money has to be spent by 2022.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Thank you President Obama (two-term, President). He gets what happens when you add together relentless pillaging of the environment by the extraction industries and the resultant climate change

Resettling the First American ‘Climate Refugees’

For over a century, the American Indians on the island fished, hunted, trapped and farmed among the lush banana and pecan trees that once spread out for acres. But since 1955, more than 90 percent of the island’s original land mass has washed away. Channels cut by loggers and oil companies eroded much of the island, and decades of flood control efforts have kept once free-flowing rivers from replenishing the wetlands’ sediments. Some of the island was swept away by hurricanes.

What little remains will eventually be inundated as burning fossil fuels melt polar ice sheets and drive up sea levels, projected the National Climate Assessment, a report of 13 federal agencies that highlighted the Isle de Jean Charles and its tribal residents as among the nation’s most vulnerable.

Discuss.....

You did this topic 3 or 4 weeks ago and abandoned the thread then. You suppose it will be different this time?? That island is not disappearing from "climate change".. It's disappearing BY DESIGN of the Army Corps of Engineers.. When you protect cities on the banks of the river by building levees and controllable flood plains -- tiny islands in the MIDDLE OF THE CHANNEL ---- go bye-bye...

Lord -- the left has so little knowledge of how things actually work -- it's easy to impress them with folklore and sad stories... .

by design? Link?

Damn kiddo -- I checked and the ORIGINAL THREAD on this sad story was NOT yours.. Sorry -- I thought you had done this before. It was Matthew..

You can read my responses starting at 'There's no more land'

But they were both breathless and panicking.. Funny how not checking the facts and listening to the lies and hype makes them this way... These are the types who would give up every single unalienable right they have and I have for the lies.. they use their feelings to guide them rather than facts.

 

[Dot Com]

Thank you President Obama (two-term, President). He gets what happens when you add together relentless pillaging of the environment by the extraction industries and the resultant climate change

Resettling the First American ‘Climate Refugees’

For over a century, the American Indians on the island fished, hunted, trapped and farmed among the lush banana and pecan trees that once spread out for acres. But since 1955, more than 90 percent of the island’s original land mass has washed away. Channels cut by loggers and oil companies eroded much of the island, and decades of flood control efforts have kept once free-flowing rivers from replenishing the wetlands’ sediments. Some of the island was swept away by hurricanes.

What little remains will eventually be inundated as burning fossil fuels melt polar ice sheets and drive up sea levels, projected the National Climate Assessment, a report of 13 federal agencies that highlighted the Isle de Jean Charles and its tribal residents as among the nation’s most vulnerable.

Discuss.....

You did this topic 3 or 4 weeks ago and abandoned the thread then. You suppose it will be different this time?? That island is not disappearing from "climate change".. It's disappearing BY DESIGN of the Army Corps of Engineers.. When you protect cities on the banks of the river by building levees and controllable flood plains -- tiny islands in the MIDDLE OF THE CHANNEL ---- go bye-bye...

Lord -- the left has so little knowledge of how things actually work -- it's easy to impress them with folklore and sad stories... .

by design? Link?

Damn kiddo -- I checked and the ORIGINAL THREAD on this sad story was NOT yours.. Sorry -- I thought you had done this before. It was Matthew..

You can read my responses starting at 'There's no more land'

Apology accepted.

Back to topic.

 

[mudwhistle]

This is just the beginning of what this is going to cost our nation. Sea level rise, the degradation of the ocean, both from acidification and pollution, and the climate change are going to take an increasing toll on the funds available to government at all levels.

And the only solution is doubling taxes every year until the problem goes away.

 

[flacaltenn]

Thank you President Obama (two-term, President). He gets what happens when you add together relentless pillaging of the environment by the extraction industries and the resultant climate change

Resettling the First American ‘Climate Refugees’

For over a century, the American Indians on the island fished, hunted, trapped and farmed among the lush banana and pecan trees that once spread out for acres. But since 1955, more than 90 percent of the island’s original land mass has washed away. Channels cut by loggers and oil companies eroded much of the island, and decades of flood control efforts have kept once free-flowing rivers from replenishing the wetlands’ sediments. Some of the island was swept away by hurricanes.

What little remains will eventually be inundated as burning fossil fuels melt polar ice sheets and drive up sea levels, projected the National Climate Assessment, a report of 13 federal agencies that highlighted the Isle de Jean Charles and its tribal residents as among the nation’s most vulnerable.

Discuss.....

You did this topic 3 or 4 weeks ago and abandoned the thread then. You suppose it will be different this time?? That island is not disappearing from "climate change".. It's disappearing BY DESIGN of the Army Corps of Engineers.. When you protect cities on the banks of the river by building levees and controllable flood plains -- tiny islands in the MIDDLE OF THE CHANNEL ---- go bye-bye...

Lord -- the left has so little knowledge of how things actually work -- it's easy to impress them with folklore and sad stories... .

by design? Link?

Damn kiddo -- I checked and the ORIGINAL THREAD on this sad story was NOT yours.. Sorry -- I thought you had done this before. It was Matthew..

You can read my responses starting at 'There's no more land'

But they were both breathless and panicking.. Funny how not checking the facts and listening to the lies and hype makes them this way... These are the types who would give up every single unalienable right they have and I have for the lies.. they use their feelings to guide them rather than facts.

Mostly -- they wouldnt have the story they WANT -- if they didn't attempt to toss in the "Global Warming" mantras. Without the hype --- the story would really be about side effects of protecting THOUSANDS against the welfare of 60.. And the inefficiencies when the Govt tries to "fix" their self-created problem by wadding up large sums of cash and flushing it down the Mississippi River.

 

[Dot Com]

The gov't doesn't own the oil and logging co's. Read the OP

 

[flacaltenn]

The gov't doesn't own the oil and logging co's. Read the OP

What does cutting channels for logging or oil access have to do with "climate change"? These people are NOT climate refugees. They are in the wrong place for efforts to PROVIDE flood protection to millions of OTHERS.

Isle de Jean Charles, Louisiana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The island and its semi-abandoned village are located in eroding wetlands beyond the main levee systems of south Louisiana. The oil drilling, logging and the Army Corps of Engineers’ levee building on the Mississippi River have contributed to erosion of the wetlands, threatened also by sea level rise and intense hurricanes such as Katrina in 2005.[5] In the 1950s, the island was 11 miles long and five miles wide. In 2016, it has been reduced to a quarter-mile wide and two miles long, and the causeway to it is also threatened. Today, only 25 families remain on the island, with many tribal members displaced.

Recent coastal restoration measures have not been able to salvage the island. This Tribal Homeland was not included within the Louisiana State Master Plan nor Morganza to the Gulf 72-mile authorized levee alignment, currently under construction for the Mexico Hurricane Protection Project.

This is all about the huge pots of money available from the UN efforts to redistribute money as they see fit and BLAME it all on "climate change". They were PURPOSELY left out of consideration when levee plans were devised. Making the BUILDING of the LEVEEs the PRIMARY CAUSE of erosion to the island. Water has to go ELSEWHERE when levees are planned and built.

 

[flacaltenn]

From the official "Resettlement" website..


The Environment

Causes

There are many causes of this crisis: some natural, many more man-made. Natural causes include hurricanes, which erode marshes and introduce excess salt water into wetland systems, as well as subsidence, the gradual sinking of coastal land into the ocean. These forces are minor, however, in comparison to the massive changes that people have created.

The main forms of man-made disturbance are the river-control structures such as dams and levees, and the dredging of canals for shipping and oil pipelines. Beginning in the 1920’s, large-scale river-control structures, such as levees and water diversion systems, were built to ease flooding along the banks of the Mississippi. These structures led to a dramatic decrease in the sedimentary load, which formed the basis of new coastal land and regeneration of existing marshes. River water from flooding also helped to reduce marsh salinity and provide nutrients, and its loss has resulted in the breakup and dispersal of large amounts of nutrient-starved marshlands. Canal dredging has had one of the most dramatic effects on wetland growth and regeneration, especially around Isle de Jean Charles. Canals for oil and gas pipelines and drilling have been carved all around Isle de Jean Charles. These canals bring in saltwater from the Gulf of Mexico, which kills the surrounding freshwater marsh. Once a canal is dredged and saltwater is introduced, the canal will continue to expand, converting marshland into open water. The widening canals allow more water to rush in during hurricanes and storms, which pull more land away as the tide rushes back out, resulting in increased land loss.

Calling this "climate change" is opportunistic and dramatic. And just opens the right pots of money to pay for resettling these "refugees".. Leftist media is just turning news into folklore and fairy tales.

 

[flacaltenn]

This is actual a very instructive story to explain the collusion between government and the leftist media.
Because

Spoiler: What this story is REALLY ABOUT !!!

--- Is Eminent Domain

These folks are in the path of Commerce and Infrastructure Improvements. And the Government has excersized "a taking" of their land without actually invoking the eminent domain process. Instead, they have consistently APPROVED projects that leave these 60 people with less and less island to live on..

So -- the NY Times (the OP link) LOVES to cooperate with the SPINNING of stories like this when it can be made into the kind of folklore that FEEDS their readership base. Thus -- the excuse that these folks are VICTIMS of Climate Change and NOT government abuse of eminent domain.. It takes a relatively ugly story and turns it into a WIN for the team..

This occurs to me a couple days after watching a news special about how the Duke LaCrosse team got skewered by the media. A journalist from the NYTimes comes on and says they were "enticed" because that story "had all the components that fits their readership narratives".. It was rich against poor -- white against black -- educated against not so educated. IOW -- it was MADE to spin..

And that's what's happening here with all the hand-wringing about Isle Jean Charles being a "test case" for "climate refugees"...

 

[Old Rocks]

Lassie, have you taken even one high school science class? Do you know what a GHG is? Do you understand what water does when it warms?

All we have seen from you is silly one line posts reflecting zero thought processes, and vast ignorance. How about posting some reasons and evidence of those reasons for your opions.

How about you run around squawking we're all going to burn and I'll laugh at you....like all informed normal people do. "climate change" is ripe with fraud and nothing more than wealth redistribution. Silly old fool, you've been duped like the excellent little tool you are.

Some are burning right now.




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Fort McMurray fire: Evacuees try to outrun inferno -- again

The raging wildfire in Fort McMurray, Alberta, raced toward his home, swallowing everything in its path.

"We had next to no warning," the 27-year-old said. "I was able to grab some clothes, toiletries, a hard drive and laptop, passport and my Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu belt."

Spring escaped just in time. His entire neighborhood of over 100 homes burned to the ground.



"Absolutely everything was leveled," he said. The only things left standing: burnt trees, a light post and a few chimneys.

But Spring doesn't have time to think about losing his home. He's also the safety and operations director at Phoenix Heli-Flight, which is busy evacuating hospital patients and helping firefighters by dropping water from the sky.

"It's not difficult at all to keep working and not think of it," he said. "Just knowing that everything we lost is replaceable is comforting."

1,600 homes destroyed

The mammoth inferno, which started Sunday, has torched at least 1,600 homes, Alberta Premier Rachel Notley said.





It's also scorched more than 100 square kilometers (39 square miles) of land -- twice the size of Manhattan.

Authorities ordered more than 88,000 people to evacuate -- including the entire city of Fort McMurray.

But not everyone would leave, Spring said.

"We took a lot of women and children" in helicopters, he said. "A lot of the husbands, they wanted to stay. ... A lot of them built their houses themselves. That's the spirit up here."

If the fire got too close, they reasoned, the men would try to flee on their boats on the Clearwater River, Spring said.

On the run again

But many who heeded the evacuation orders had to flee a second time as the unpredictable fire headed toward an emergency shelter in Anzac.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Lassie, have you taken even one high school science class? Do you know what a GHG is? Do you understand what water does when it warms?

All we have seen from you is silly one line posts reflecting zero thought processes, and vast ignorance. How about posting some reasons and evidence of those reasons for your opions.

How about you run around squawking we're all going to burn and I'll laugh at you....like all informed normal people do. "climate change" is ripe with fraud and nothing more than wealth redistribution. Silly old fool, you've been duped like the excellent little tool you are.

Some are burning right now.




620 x 516 | 78.5KB

www.cbc.ca

• 

Fort McMurray fire: Evacuees try to outrun inferno -- again

The raging wildfire in Fort McMurray, Alberta, raced toward his home, swallowing everything in its path.

"We had next to no warning," the 27-year-old said. "I was able to grab some clothes, toiletries, a hard drive and laptop, passport and my Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu belt."

Spring escaped just in time. His entire neighborhood of over 100 homes burned to the ground.



"Absolutely everything was leveled," he said. The only things left standing: burnt trees, a light post and a few chimneys.

But Spring doesn't have time to think about losing his home. He's also the safety and operations director at Phoenix Heli-Flight, which is busy evacuating hospital patients and helping firefighters by dropping water from the sky.

"It's not difficult at all to keep working and not think of it," he said. "Just knowing that everything we lost is replaceable is comforting."

1,600 homes destroyed

The mammoth inferno, which started Sunday, has torched at least 1,600 homes, Alberta Premier Rachel Notley said.





It's also scorched more than 100 square kilometers (39 square miles) of land -- twice the size of Manhattan.

Authorities ordered more than 88,000 people to evacuate -- including the entire city of Fort McMurray.

But not everyone would leave, Spring said.

"We took a lot of women and children" in helicopters, he said. "A lot of the husbands, they wanted to stay. ... A lot of them built their houses themselves. That's the spirit up here."

If the fire got too close, they reasoned, the men would try to flee on their boats on the Clearwater River, Spring said.

On the run again

But many who heeded the evacuation orders had to flee a second time as the unpredictable fire headed toward an emergency shelter in Anzac.

So this is the first drought in history? LOL

 

[Old Rocks]

This is in northern Alberta. First week of may. Temperature of 90+. I fought forest fires for two summers in Eastern Oregon over 40 years ago. We never saw fires like we have seen in the last summer, and now this year. They are predicting another hot, dry summer for the Pacific Northwest. You idiots are going to have a real hard time convincing the people here that we are not seeing some fundemental changes in our weather.

 

[elektra]

This is in northern Alberta. First week of may. Temperature of 90+. I fought forest fires for two summers in Eastern Oregon over 40 years ago. We never saw fires like we have seen in the last summer, and now this year. They are predicting another hot, dry summer for the Pacific Northwest. You idiots are going to have a real hard time convincing the people here that we are not seeing some fundemental changes in our weather.

Changes in weather? Old Crock, you just admitted that you saw fires over 40 years ago, and now you saw them again, you have established that fire is a normal part of the climate.

It is a shame that Alberta had not managed their lands better, but that would of cost money, and now they pay the price. Just like Oregon has failed to manage their forests, which results in worst fires.