Federal Reserve now predicts Q2 Gdp growth of 3.8%

From your own link:

The growth rate of real gross domestic product (GDP) is a key indicator of economic activity, but the official estimate is released with a delay. Our GDPNow forecasting model provides a "nowcast" of the official estimate prior to its release by estimating GDP growth using a methodology similar to the one used by the US Bureau of Economic Analysis.

GDPNow is not an official forecast of the Atlanta Fed. Rather, it is best viewed as a running estimate of real GDP growth based on available economic data for the current measured quarter. There are no subjective adjustments made to GDPNow—the estimate is based solely on the mathematical results of the model.

You need to understand something.............estimates are based on existing reports but in Trump's case, they are not dependable because his tariff actions have not YET shown what the results of them are going to be!!!!!
 
..estimates are based on existing reports but in Trump's case, they are not dependable because his tariff actions have not YET shown what the results of them are going to be!!!!!
‘Five exclamation marks, the sure sign of an insane mind.’ -Terry Pratchett.

Except the effects of the tariffs are already in.

In April, the trade imbalance dropped by 46%. This is a known effect and baked into the algorithmically generated prediction.

Your need for President Trump to fail is not baked into the algorithm... hence a conclusion of 3.8% growth.

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GDPNow is not an official forecast of the Atlanta Fed.

Why do they use it as a tool/source?


EconomyNow: An Atlanta Fed Research App

Stay up to date on the economy by using the Atlanta Fed's EconomyNow app. The app allows you to view some of our most popular tools that incorporate timely data on the labor market, inflation, and growth—like GDPNow and the Wage Growth Tracker. It also offers interactive and shareable charts as well as analysis of the latest data. The EconomyNow app is ideal for economists, financial market professionals, academics, students, and anyone else interested in economic data.
 
‘Five exclamation marks, the sure sign of an insane mind.’ -Terry Pratchett.

Except the effects of the tariffs are already in.

In April, the trade imbalance dropped by 46%. This is a known effect and baked into the algorithmically generated prediction.

Your need for President Trump to fail is not baked into the algorithm... hence a conclusion of 3.8% growth.

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You do know that I have been an "official" analyst of the market for 48 years, don't you?

That means that you better know this kind of stuff better than I do, to have a hope of beating me in a debate!

Here is an explanation (according to AI) that will give you additional information that proves "you do not know what you are talking about and what you say is all misinformed thinking"

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The effects of the 2025 tariffs are becoming clearer, though their full impact is still unfolding and subject to ongoing legal challenges
.
Here's a summary of the known and predicted effects:
Economic Impacts:

  • Reduced GDP Growth: Economists generally agree that the tariffs are negatively impacting US GDP growth. The Budget Lab at Yale estimated a 0.6% reduction in long-run GDP growth due to the tariffs. Other estimates, like those from the Penn Wharton Budget Model, project even larger reductions.
  • Higher Consumer Prices: Tariffs are essentially taxes on imports, and a portion of these costs are being passed on to consumers in the form of higher prices. While the initial impact may be modest, economists expect a more sustained rise in consumer prices as tariffs continue.
  • Potential for Job Losses: Some companies, particularly in industries reliant on imports, may reduce hiring or implement layoffs to manage increased costs.
  • Uncertainty and Market Volatility: The unpredictable nature of tariff policy and the ongoing legal battles are creating uncertainty for businesses and investors, contributing to market volatility.
Trade Impacts:
  • Reduced Imports: Businesses are reducing imports due to tariffs and uncertainty. This may boost GDP growth in the short term if inventories don't decline as much, but economists expect stockpiles to decrease, mitigating this effect.
  • Shift in Supply Chains: Companies may adjust their supply chains to mitigate the effects of tariffs, potentially leading to a reconfiguration of global trade patterns.
  • Retaliation: The imposition of tariffs has prompted retaliatory measures from other countries, further disrupting trade flows and negatively impacting the global economy.
Important Considerations:
  • Distributional Effects: Tariffs tend to disproportionately impact lower-income households as a larger share of their income is spent on goods.
  • Legal Challenges: The legality of some tariffs is being challenged in court, creating uncertainty about their future and potential impact.
  • Reshoring: While tariffs are intended to incentivize domestic production, the effectiveness of reshoring manufacturing remains to be seen, and it may come at a higher cost.
In Conclusion:
While the full extent of the tariffs' effects is still unfolding, early indications suggest a negative impact on US economic growth, consumer prices, and trade. The uncertainty surrounding trade policy and legal challenges adds to the complexity of the situation.
 
There is absolutely no way our economy will grow 3.8% in a single quarter.
 
Wow your debate skills are quite impressive! LOL
All you do is repeat your mentally disturbed, MAGA lies ad nauseum.

You "debate" in bad faith, you don't know anything, you're not very smart, and you're boring to talk to.

So kindly fuck off.
 
You mean this country is taking it up the ass from Trump's derangement and idiocy.

Why do you pretend that Trump is sane? It's really pathetic.

I don't pretend he is sane. I'm just trying to figure out why you leftys want to go back to America being on the losing end all the time with trade.
 
You do know that I have been an "official" analyst of the market for 48 years, don't you?

That means that you better know this kind of stuff better than I do, to have a hope of beating me in a debate!

Here is an explanation (according to AI) that will give you additional information that proves "you do not know what you are talking about and what you say is all misinformed thinking"

AI Overview
Learn more

The effects of the 2025 tariffs are becoming clearer, though their full impact is still unfolding and subject to ongoing legal challenges
.
Here's a summary of the known and predicted effects:
Economic Impacts:

  • Reduced GDP Growth: Economists generally agree that the tariffs are negatively impacting US GDP growth. The Budget Lab at Yale estimated a 0.6% reduction in long-run GDP growth due to the tariffs. Other estimates, like those from the Penn Wharton Budget Model, project even larger reductions.
  • Higher Consumer Prices: Tariffs are essentially taxes on imports, and a portion of these costs are being passed on to consumers in the form of higher prices. While the initial impact may be modest, economists expect a more sustained rise in consumer prices as tariffs continue.
  • Potential for Job Losses: Some companies, particularly in industries reliant on imports, may reduce hiring or implement layoffs to manage increased costs.
  • Uncertainty and Market Volatility: The unpredictable nature of tariff policy and the ongoing legal battles are creating uncertainty for businesses and investors, contributing to market volatility.
Trade Impacts:
  • Reduced Imports: Businesses are reducing imports due to tariffs and uncertainty. This may boost GDP growth in the short term if inventories don't decline as much, but economists expect stockpiles to decrease, mitigating this effect.
  • Shift in Supply Chains: Companies may adjust their supply chains to mitigate the effects of tariffs, potentially leading to a reconfiguration of global trade patterns.
  • Retaliation: The imposition of tariffs has prompted retaliatory measures from other countries, further disrupting trade flows and negatively impacting the global economy.
Important Considerations:
  • Distributional Effects: Tariffs tend to disproportionately impact lower-income households as a larger share of their income is spent on goods.
  • Legal Challenges: The legality of some tariffs is being challenged in court, creating uncertainty about their future and potential impact.
  • Reshoring: While tariffs are intended to incentivize domestic production, the effectiveness of reshoring manufacturing remains to be seen, and it may come at a higher cost.
In Conclusion:
While the full extent of the tariffs' effects is still unfolding, early indications suggest a negative impact on US economic growth, consumer prices, and trade. The uncertainty surrounding trade policy and legal challenges adds to the complexity of the situation.
And I've been the Greek god of war for four millennia. Seen it all, done it all.

What's your point?
 
I don't pretend he is sane. I'm just trying to figure out why you leftys want to go back to America being on the losing end all the time with trade.
They'll lose everything as long as a republican takes a stand for the people against the leftist radical agenda. Right now it's Trump in their crosshairs, and it'll be any other republican after that when the torch is passed.

All anyone has to do in order to realize the extent of the problem in this country right now, is to be very observant of the generational change that has been brought about by tolerance and complacency for Democrat radical leftist agendas that was heavily reliant upon the seizing of government power (whether it was state or federal), in order to force the agenda's that they've put forth against the will of the American people.
 
No, he did not, Simp. God damn you're stupid as fuck.

Obama was smart.....he didn't extend pointless tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires. Like imbecile Trump. Like imbecile Bush.
Here, educate yourself, moron.


After a protracted debate, Congress and President Obama agreed at the end of 2010 to extend the Bush tax cuts for two years, 2011 and 2012. They allowed the Making Work Pay Credit to expire but replaced it with a payroll tax “holiday,” which reduced Social Security payroll taxes paid in 2011, and this was eventually extended through 2012. Lawmakers also extended expansions in the EITC and Child Tax Credit for two years.

After another protracted debate, Congress and President Obama agreed at the start of 2013 to make most, but not all, of the Bush tax cuts permanent. The same legislation extended the expansions of the EITC and Child Tax Credit for five years.

 
You do know that I have been an "official" analyst of the market for 48 years, don't you?

That means that you better know this kind of stuff better than I do, to have a hope of beating me in a debate!

Here is an explanation (according to AI) that will give you additional information that proves "you do not know what you are talking about and what you say is all misinformed thinking"

AI Overview
Learn more

The effects of the 2025 tariffs are becoming clearer, though their full impact is still unfolding and subject to ongoing legal challenges
.
Here's a summary of the known and predicted effects:
Economic Impacts:

  • Reduced GDP Growth: Economists generally agree that the tariffs are negatively impacting US GDP growth. The Budget Lab at Yale estimated a 0.6% reduction in long-run GDP growth due to the tariffs. Other estimates, like those from the Penn Wharton Budget Model, project even larger reductions.
  • Higher Consumer Prices: Tariffs are essentially taxes on imports, and a portion of these costs are being passed on to consumers in the form of higher prices. While the initial impact may be modest, economists expect a more sustained rise in consumer prices as tariffs continue.
  • Potential for Job Losses: Some companies, particularly in industries reliant on imports, may reduce hiring or implement layoffs to manage increased costs.
  • Uncertainty and Market Volatility: The unpredictable nature of tariff policy and the ongoing legal battles are creating uncertainty for businesses and investors, contributing to market volatility.
Trade Impacts:
  • Reduced Imports: Businesses are reducing imports due to tariffs and uncertainty. This may boost GDP growth in the short term if inventories don't decline as much, but economists expect stockpiles to decrease, mitigating this effect.
  • Shift in Supply Chains: Companies may adjust their supply chains to mitigate the effects of tariffs, potentially leading to a reconfiguration of global trade patterns.
  • Retaliation: The imposition of tariffs has prompted retaliatory measures from other countries, further disrupting trade flows and negatively impacting the global economy.
Important Considerations:
  • Distributional Effects: Tariffs tend to disproportionately impact lower-income households as a larger share of their income is spent on goods.
  • Legal Challenges: The legality of some tariffs is being challenged in court, creating uncertainty about their future and potential impact.
  • Reshoring: While tariffs are intended to incentivize domestic production, the effectiveness of reshoring manufacturing remains to be seen, and it may come at a higher cost.
In Conclusion:
While the full extent of the tariffs' effects is still unfolding, early indications suggest a negative impact on US economic growth, consumer prices, and trade. The uncertainty surrounding trade policy and legal challenges adds to the complexity of the situation.
48 years, and you still know less than Jack shit.

You must be really stupid, Short Bus.
 
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