Federal judges side with mechanic suing Huntsville, AL: ‘The public is free to ignore’ police questions

[AZrailwhale]

it was in the court case you posted,,
also the 4th amendment to our constitution specifically says it,,


ignorant is no way to go through life my boy,,

Neither is being a supercilious jerk like you are.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I said "what I've seen" not what I experienced,,, dummass,,,

So were you there or not? Dickhead!

 

[progressive hunter]

Neither is being a supercilious jerk like you are.

at least I am not wrong,,

you still havent answered why you hate our bill of rights,,

 

[AZrailwhale]

at least I am not wrong,,

you still havent answered why you hate our bill of rights,,

I don’t hat it at all, but for every right come ten responsibilities. That’s what you don’t understand.

 

[progressive hunter]

I don’t hat it at all, but for every right come ten responsibilities. That’s what you don’t understand.

and one of those is not being forced to provide identity if a crime has not been committed,,

do you even know what R.A.S. is??

 

[pknopp]

I don’t hat it at all, but for every right come ten responsibilities. That’s what you don’t understand.

No it doesnt. A right is a right whether you are responsible or not.

 

[AZrailwhale]

No it doesnt. A right is a right whether you are responsible or not.

Responsibilities always outweigh rights or privileges.

 

[progressive hunter]

Responsibilities always outweigh rights or privileges.

we have a responsibility to stand up to tyrants like you and defend those rights,,

so **** off,,

law enforcement has a responsibility to protect the rights of the people not abuse them by asking for id when you havent committed a crime

did I say **** off already??

 

[pknopp]

we have a responsibility to stand up to tyrants like you and defend those rights,,

so **** off,,

law enforcement has a responsibility to protect the rights of the people not abuse them by asking for id when you havent committed a crime

did I say **** off already??

Dont take posts like you replied to seriously.

 

[progressive hunter]

Dont take posts like you replied to seriously.

you are free at anytime to show what I got wrong,,

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

and one of those is not being forced to provide identity if a crime has not been committed,,

do you even know what R.A.S. is??

Replenishment At-Sea?

 

[progressive hunter]

Dont take posts like you replied to seriously.

I figured you had nothing,,

move along kid youre bothering us,,

 

[Darkwind]

cops are getting to authoritarian and thinking they make the laws and can treat people any way they want to,,

makes it really hard to not cheer when one gets shot in the back of the head while sitting in their car,,

You know what? **** you.

That is a 4 year old response.

You don't fight the cops on the streets. You fight them in the courts.

Know your rights and just don't give them the ammunition to bury you.

 

[pknopp]

You know what? **** you.

That is a 4 year old response.

You don't fight the cops on the streets. You fight them in the courts.

Know your rights and just don't give them the ammunition to bury you.

Never cede a right to the government.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Three federal judges sided with a mechanic suing Huntsville officers for false arrest, writing in an opinion this week that Alabamians do not have to show identification when asked by the police.

Roland Edger sued the city and two Huntsville officers, alleging they wrongly arrested him outside a church four years ago as he attempted to repair a customer’s car. Body camera video shows the officers arresting Edger as he, at first, declined to show them his driver’s license.

“So to summarize, it has been clearly established for decades prior to Mr. Edger’s arrest that the police are free to ask questions, and the public is free to ignore them,” a three-judge panel for the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals said in a unanimous opinion issued this week.

..

Judge Charles R. Wilson, writing for the panel, said that Edger had not committed any crime, therefore police had no basis for arresting him. The judges also noted that Edger was not driving at the time and therefore was not required to show his license.

..

“Further, neither the parties nor our own research can identify any Alabama law that generally requires the public to carry physical identification — much less an Alabama law requiring them to produce it upon demand of a police officer,” Judge Wilson wrote. “There simply is no state law foundation for Officer McCabe’s demand that Mr. Edger produce physical identification.”

Edger’s lawsuit can go forward against Huntsville Officers Krista McCabe and Cameron Perillat, the judges ruled. The judges found that the officers are not entitled to qualified immunity — a legal doctrine that shields public officials from lawsuits when they are performing official duties — because they went beyond the bounds of the law when arresting Edger.

Federal judges side with mechanic suing Huntsville: ‘The public is free to ignore’ police questions

Bodycam video shows Huntsville police arrest man for initially declining to show his ID.

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I've noticed that the new hotness in police interactions is for them to charge people with "obstruction" when they don't want to answer their questions or don't tell the truth. Never mind that the whole point of obstruction laws was for physically obstructing/impeding an officer.

Freedom is scary.

Good. The judges (in rare form) are 100% right. We're not living in Communist China.

 

[progressive hunter]

You know what? **** you.

That is a 4 year old response.

You don't fight the cops on the streets. You fight them in the courts.

Know your rights and just don't give them the ammunition to bury you.

imagine that,,
after for yrs a bootlickers feelings are still hurt,,

 

[Darkwind]

Never cede a right to the government.

What right is being ceded?

They have the right to pull you over if they see a violation.

You don't have to answer their questions.

But you don't have to get ******* mouthy either, do you? And if you get hurt or killed, well I'm sure that will be a great comfort to your family that you didn't cede your right to mouth off.

Or, you could be smart and just ask a simple question.

Am I being detained?

If the answer is yes, then you have a simple action to take.

I refuse to answer questions without my lawyer.

AND THEN SHUT THE **** UP.

not hard at all.

 

[Darkwind]

imagine that,,
after for yrs a bootlickers feelings are still hurt,,

Whose feelings are hurt, spectrum boi?

 

[progressive hunter]

Whose feelings are hurt, spectrum boi?

you seem upset and on the verge of a breakdown

 

[Jarlaxle]

It's sadly true though. The police in general are poorly trained, and have little to no understanding of a civilians rights.

Worse, they go out of their way to attack legit people, who have no record of any criminal activity.

Then, they lie about the interactions and pursue retaliatory indictments when you sue them.

Those cops are scum and give all the good ones a bad name.

There are no good cops. All cops are bad.