Federal Judge orders Trump to fully reinstate DACA

[Hellbilly]

Its ok for the people whose land you stole.

I did not steal anyones land

and no mexican has rights to my land

Are you really that stupid?

 

[pknopp]

They both did it. No excuse for either.

We cannot allow catch and release because the illegals never show up for the court hearing

if we allow the border patrol to send illegals back the same day they arrive no children would have to be removed from the adults who brought them here

We have this thing in our Constitution known as Due Process. I understand many are not a fan of Due Process and the Constitution but you are always going to be on the losing side of that argument.

 

[OldLady]

Great news - So much winning of late for the Rumpster eh?

Federal judge orders Trump admin to fully restore Obama-era DACA program

A federal judge in New York on Friday ordered the Trump administration to fully restore the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program (DACA), also known as DACA, according to NBC New…

www.google.com

Yes. A judicial branch member ordering the executive branch to continue an illegal prior executive action.
Let’s see....

Overstepping executive authority by making immigration law not by the legislature, but by calling it “executive action”... check.

Telling a current executive he is bound by a prior executive action, which flies in the face of the entire history of our government (executives and legislatures are not bound by prior of the same).... check.

The judicial branch over stepping its authority and ordering an executive to act on a prior executive action, getting points for violating the separation of powers... check.

And why does our liberal poster here cheer it?? Because orange man bad, and because if it’s done by liberals he loves it. Is it legal, constitutional, good for the country??
Who gives a fuck.

If it were unconstitutional, wouldn't the Supreme Court had said so?

I think it is good for these folks caught in the middle; imagine never knowing if you would be able to stay in the country you've always lived in. They are model citizens, they are working, paying taxes, attending school or serving in the military. What is so horrible about giving them permanent residence status?

Ok. Fair enough.
I see the humanitarian side of it.
I can imagine being raised somewhere and all I ever know is that place, and then being told to leave because my parents brough me illegally as a child.
That would be pretty terrible.

The problem I see it is that allowing DACA or things like it causes major unintentional consequences. Now people know... smuggle those kids/minors in, and they can stay. Get the kids in, and now the parents can stay. So you have thousands/millions of people unloading their kids into this country. I don’t need to explain the consequences of that.
And that’s assuming they are kids.
What’s to stop Pico the 18 year old from some Aztec village in central Nowhere to come over, and when he is picked up claim he was raised here and been living here since he was 5?
What’s to stop the 30 year old from getting picked up and claiming he has been here since he was 5 years old?

I can imagine being raised somewhere and all I ever know is that place, and then being told to leave because my parents brough me illegally as a child.
That would be pretty terrible.

Thank you.

The problem I see it is that allowing DACA or things like it causes major unintentional consequences. Now people know... smuggle those kids/minors in, and they can stay.

I understand that. I also believe in making it harder to enter this country, or remain here, illegally. It seemed reasonable to me that Trump wanted to tie DACA to additional ways to stop illegal immigration. I see nothing wrong with the Wall in strategic areas. It's an over simplistic and very expensive way to address a very complicated problem, though, the way he was proposing it.

E-Verify and REALLY prosecuting employers who hire illegals would do as much, if not more. I think the Dems should have thrown that on the table, but they won't because they all, Democrats and Republicans alike, get their contributions from big businessmen who abuse it. There is no real will to stop it.

 

[jknowgood]

We’ll look at it this way ... You only had a few weeks left to terrorize immigrants anyway

Illegal aliens are not immigrants

they are trespassers

Gonna be sad times ahead. No more toddler snatching and caging. You may have to find another outlet for your cruelty. Maybe burning ants with a magnifying glass?

Look on the bright side Mac .. Stephen Miller will have time on his hands. The two of you can hijack a taco truck and claim it for Amurca!

Just more sex trafficking, maybe you will get laid.

 

[OldLady]

What’s to stop Pico the 18 year old from some Aztec village in central Nowhere to come over, and when he is picked up claim he was raised here and been living here since he was 5?

I don't know how they do it, but if they couldn't prove how long they'd been here--school records, maybe? -- there would be a whole lot more DACA people.

 

[pknopp]

Great news - So much winning of late for the Rumpster eh?

Federal judge orders Trump admin to fully restore Obama-era DACA program

A federal judge in New York on Friday ordered the Trump administration to fully restore the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program (DACA), also known as DACA, according to NBC New…

www.google.com

Yes. A judicial branch member ordering the executive branch to continue an illegal prior executive action.
Let’s see....

Overstepping executive authority by making immigration law not by the legislature, but by calling it “executive action”... check.

Telling a current executive he is bound by a prior executive action, which flies in the face of the entire history of our government (executives and legislatures are not bound by prior of the same).... check.

The judicial branch over stepping its authority and ordering an executive to act on a prior executive action, getting points for violating the separation of powers... check.

And why does our liberal poster here cheer it?? Because orange man bad, and because if it’s done by liberals he loves it. Is it legal, constitutional, good for the country??
Who gives a fuck.

If it were unconstitutional, wouldn't the Supreme Court had said so?

I think it is good for these folks caught in the middle; imagine never knowing if you would be able to stay in the country you've always lived in. They are model citizens, they are working, paying taxes, attending school or serving in the military. What is so horrible about giving them permanent residence status?

Ok. Fair enough.
I see the humanitarian side of it.
I can imagine being raised somewhere and all I ever know is that place, and then being told to leave because my parents brough me illegally as a child.
That would be pretty terrible.

The problem I see it is that allowing DACA or things like it causes major unintentional consequences. Now people know... smuggle those kids/minors in, and they can stay. Get the kids in, and now the parents can stay. So you have thousands/millions of people unloading their kids into this country. I don’t need to explain the consequences of that.
And that’s assuming they are kids.
What’s to stop Pico the 18 year old from some Aztec village in central Nowhere to come over, and when he is picked up claim he was raised here and been living here since he was 5?
What’s to stop the 30 year old from getting picked up and claiming he has been here since he was 5 years old?

I can imagine being raised somewhere and all I ever know is that place, and then being told to leave because my parents brough me illegally as a child.
That would be pretty terrible.

Thank you.

The problem I see it is that allowing DACA or things like it causes major unintentional consequences. Now people know... smuggle those kids/minors in, and they can stay.

I understand that. I also believe in making it harder to enter this country, or remain here, illegally. It seemed reasonable to me that Trump wanted to tie DACA to additional ways to stop illegal immigration. I see nothing wrong with the Wall in strategic areas. It's an over simplistic and very expensive way to address a very complicated problem, though, the way he was proposing it.

E-Verify and REALLY prosecuting employers who hire illegals would do as much, if not more. I think the Dems should have thrown that on the table, but they won't because they all, Democrats and Republicans alike, get their contributions from big businessmen who abuse it. There is no real will to stop it.

I said they should have done the same and then the bill dies. No the Dems don't support it either but no way McConnell could have brought it to the floor. (Mandatory e-verify)

 

[OldLady]

We’ll look at it this way ... You only had a few weeks left to terrorize immigrants anyway

Illegal aliens are not immigrants

they are trespassers

Gonna be sad times ahead. No more toddler snatching and caging. You may have to find another outlet for your cruelty. Maybe burning ants with a magnifying glass?

Look on the bright side Mac .. Stephen Miller will have time on his hands. The two of you can hijack a taco truck and claim it for Amurca!

I really hope you aren’t an actual doctor.
Your posts are consistently illogical, emotionally driven, and often lack any grounding in reality.
You seem to have a narrative you like or a conclusion you want, not by any critical thinking of your own, mind you. You seem to merely parrot idiotic talking points. And then you spout off idiotic comments in support of your spoon fed narratives.
Every time I read something you post, I’m left shaking my head at what an intellectual light weight you are. Your thought process is about as deep as a puddle, and you seem to lack even the slightest insight into any subject matter beyond the most surface layers.
In summation, you’re a joke. And I’m fairly certain everyone else thinks the same thing. Even your fellow libs consider you a dumb ass, just a useful one. Kind of like the useless soldier you March in front of you in a mine field. They won’t admit this to you, but I’d bet on it.

Well that was excessive. You insult like a junior high girl.

BeefyBoy just earned himself a zesty IG. ;-)

You might want to take him off. He straightened out.

 

[DrLove]

We’ll look at it this way ... You only had a few weeks left to terrorize immigrants anyway

Illegal aliens are not immigrants

they are trespassers

Gonna be sad times ahead. No more toddler snatching and caging. You may have to find another outlet for your cruelty. Maybe burning ants with a magnifying glass?

Look on the bright side Mac .. Stephen Miller will have time on his hands. The two of you can hijack a taco truck and claim it for Amurca!

I really hope you aren’t an actual doctor.
Your posts are consistently illogical, emotionally driven, and often lack any grounding in reality.
You seem to have a narrative you like or a conclusion you want, not by any critical thinking of your own, mind you. You seem to merely parrot idiotic talking points. And then you spout off idiotic comments in support of your spoon fed narratives.
Every time I read something you post, I’m left shaking my head at what an intellectual light weight you are. Your thought process is about as deep as a puddle, and you seem to lack even the slightest insight into any subject matter beyond the most surface layers.
In summation, you’re a joke. And I’m fairly certain everyone else thinks the same thing. Even your fellow libs consider you a dumb ass, just a useful one. Kind of like the useless soldier you March in front of you in a mine field. They won’t admit this to you, but I’d bet on it.

Well that was excessive. You insult like a junior high girl.

BeefyBoy just earned himself a zesty IG. ;-)

You might want to take him off. He straightened out.

Done - I trust you and actually like the guy. His arguments are more reasoned than most of our pals round here.

 

[BrokeLoser]

We’ll look at it this way ... You only had a few weeks left to terrorize immigrants anyway

Illegal aliens are not immigrants

they are trespassers

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Awww...so moving and heart wrenching....
THEN reality smacks sane folks in the face.

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[Hellbilly]

Awww...so moving and heart wrenching....

Its called truth.

 

[OldLady]

Great news - So much winning of late for the Rumpster eh?

Federal judge orders Trump admin to fully restore Obama-era DACA program

A federal judge in New York on Friday ordered the Trump administration to fully restore the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program (DACA), also known as DACA, according to NBC New…

www.google.com

Yes. A judicial branch member ordering the executive branch to continue an illegal prior executive action.
Let’s see....

Overstepping executive authority by making immigration law not by the legislature, but by calling it “executive action”... check.

Telling a current executive he is bound by a prior executive action, which flies in the face of the entire history of our government (executives and legislatures are not bound by prior of the same).... check.

The judicial branch over stepping its authority and ordering an executive to act on a prior executive action, getting points for violating the separation of powers... check.

And why does our liberal poster here cheer it?? Because orange man bad, and because if it’s done by liberals he loves it. Is it legal, constitutional, good for the country??
Who gives a fuck.

If it were unconstitutional, wouldn't the Supreme Court had said so?

I think it is good for these folks caught in the middle; imagine never knowing if you would be able to stay in the country you've always lived in. They are model citizens, they are working, paying taxes, attending school or serving in the military. What is so horrible about giving them permanent residence status?

Ok. Fair enough.
I see the humanitarian side of it.
I can imagine being raised somewhere and all I ever know is that place, and then being told to leave because my parents brough me illegally as a child.
That would be pretty terrible.

The problem I see it is that allowing DACA or things like it causes major unintentional consequences. Now people know... smuggle those kids/minors in, and they can stay. Get the kids in, and now the parents can stay. So you have thousands/millions of people unloading their kids into this country. I don’t need to explain the consequences of that.
And that’s assuming they are kids.
What’s to stop Pico the 18 year old from some Aztec village in central Nowhere to come over, and when he is picked up claim he was raised here and been living here since he was 5?
What’s to stop the 30 year old from getting picked up and claiming he has been here since he was 5 years old?

I can imagine being raised somewhere and all I ever know is that place, and then being told to leave because my parents brough me illegally as a child.
That would be pretty terrible.

Thank you.

The problem I see it is that allowing DACA or things like it causes major unintentional consequences. Now people know... smuggle those kids/minors in, and they can stay.

I understand that. I also believe in making it harder to enter this country, or remain here, illegally. It seemed reasonable to me that Trump wanted to tie DACA to additional ways to stop illegal immigration. I see nothing wrong with the Wall in strategic areas. It's an over simplistic and very expensive way to address a very complicated problem, though, the way he was proposing it.

E-Verify and REALLY prosecuting employers who hire illegals would do as much, if not more. I think the Dems should have thrown that on the table, but they won't because they all, Democrats and Republicans alike, get their contributions from big businessmen who abuse it. There is no real will to stop it.

I said they should have done the same and then the bill dies. No the Dems don't support it either but no way McConnell could have brought it to the floor. (Mandatory e-verify)

I'm not sure what you're saying, but the only true solution to this is legislative action. Until then, the people taking the brunt of the wrath are people the least able to defend themselves, so broke they actually chanced sneaking into another country TO WORK. Oh, my.

 

[colfax_m]

Because some unelected demigod in a black robe says so

It doesn’t. Do you know what this ruling is about?

Chad Wolf ordered the end to DACA. One problem. Chad Wolf is not legally the head of the DHS therefore any actions he takes are invalid.

So the judge isn’t legislating from the bench, he’s telling the Trump administration to follow the laws when it comes to who is and isn’t allowed to head a cabinet level department.

Trump is the ultimate head of all the cabnet departments and has the authority to end DACA

this judge is exceeding his authority

Trump exceeded his authority by appointing Chad Wolf as secretary.

Trump can end DACA but he has to do so in a legal manner. He didn’t.

 

[Mac-7]

Are you really that stupid?

If you think I stole land from mexicans you are the one who is stupid

 

[Mac-7]

We have this thing in our Constitution known as Due Process.

The illegal aliens can be given court dates to show up at the border for their “due process” while they remain in mexico

 

[Hellbilly]

If you think I stole land from mexicans you are the one who is stupid

Thats not what I meant and you know it, or you really are that stupid.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Awww...so moving and heart wrenching....

Its called truth.

Isn’t it also true that the British conquered this land and declared sovereignty?
Aren’t you glad they did?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Then DACA is back, secure,

Great news - So much winning of late for the Rumpster eh?

Federal judge orders Trump admin to fully restore Obama-era DACA program

A federal judge in New York on Friday ordered the Trump administration to fully restore the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program (DACA), also known as DACA, according to NBC New…

www.google.com

Whoa! I thought this was going before the Supreme Court already?

It did.

“Wolf had issued his memo after the U.S. Supreme Court had ruled in June that President Donald Trump failed to follow rule-making procedures when he tried to end the program.” ibid

Congress needs to codify DACA in Federal immigration law.

Needless to say that’s not going to happen and this will be an ‘issue’ again the next Republican administration.

And finally new DACA applications will be accepted! Hope this is over for awhile.

You have a bit of a celebratory tone...Can you or DrLove enlighten us and tell us how do good Americans benefit from this ruling?
I mean, I’m certain you wouldn’t celebrate a loss for American’s while Mexico’s people win...right?

 

[pknopp]

We have this thing in our Constitution known as Due Process.

The illegal aliens can be given court dates to show up at the border for their “due process” while they remain in mexico

Due process. No one is illegal until a court decides so. The country is barred from stopping any citizen from entering the United States.

Learn the Construction.

 

[OldLady]

Then DACA is back, secure,

Great news - So much winning of late for the Rumpster eh?

Federal judge orders Trump admin to fully restore Obama-era DACA program

A federal judge in New York on Friday ordered the Trump administration to fully restore the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program (DACA), also known as DACA, according to NBC New…

www.google.com

Whoa! I thought this was going before the Supreme Court already?

It did.

“Wolf had issued his memo after the U.S. Supreme Court had ruled in June that President Donald Trump failed to follow rule-making procedures when he tried to end the program.” ibid

Congress needs to codify DACA in Federal immigration law.

Needless to say that’s not going to happen and this will be an ‘issue’ again the next Republican administration.

And finally new DACA applications will be accepted! Hope this is over for awhile.

You have a bit of a celebratory tone...Can you or DrLove enlighten us and tell us how do good Americans benefit from this ruling?
I mean, I’m certain you wouldn’t celebrate a loss for American’s while Mexico’s people win...right?

They are model citizens, they are working, paying taxes, attending school or serving in the military. The kind of productive people we want here.
How does it hurt us?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Then DACA is back, secure,

Great news - So much winning of late for the Rumpster eh?

Federal judge orders Trump admin to fully restore Obama-era DACA program

A federal judge in New York on Friday ordered the Trump administration to fully restore the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program (DACA), also known as DACA, according to NBC New…

www.google.com

Whoa! I thought this was going before the Supreme Court already?

It did.

“Wolf had issued his memo after the U.S. Supreme Court had ruled in June that President Donald Trump failed to follow rule-making procedures when he tried to end the program.” ibid

Congress needs to codify DACA in Federal immigration law.

Needless to say that’s not going to happen and this will be an ‘issue’ again the next Republican administration.

And finally new DACA applications will be accepted! Hope this is over for awhile.

You have a bit of a celebratory tone...Can you or DrLove enlighten us and tell us how do good Americans benefit from this ruling?
I mean, I’m certain you wouldn’t celebrate a loss for American’s while Mexico’s people win...right?

They are model citizens, they are working, paying taxes, attending school or serving in the military. The kind of productive people we want here.
How does it hurt us?

“THEY” are all “model citizens” huh?
I'm thinking he was spot on according to this editorial...huh?
More Than 100,000 DACA Applicants Have Been Arrested—Murder, Rape, DUI - Judicial Watch