Federal Judge knocks Jack Smith: questions "the legal propriety"

[Billiejeens]

Some day you’ll learn about jurisdiction.

Doubtful

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Smith held the original Grand Jury in Washington, but held a second one in Miami. That's in Florida for the geographically challenged.

Other way around...

US District Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee, on Monday ordered both sides to file briefs on how Special Counsel John “Jack” Smith’s team used a grand jury in Washington to continue gathering evidence after it had already indicted Trump in Florida using a grand jury in Miami.

Trump Documents Case Judge Is Reviewing DOJ Use of Two Grand Juries

The federal judge presiding over the prosecution of Donald Trump over his handling of classified documents is reviewing the “legal propriety” of the government using grand juries in both Florida and Washington to build its case against the former president.

www.bloomberg.com

Justice Department policies prohibit prosecutors from going back to a grand jury solely to get more evidence against a defendant they’ve already indicted. But they can keep using the grand jury — and its subpoena power — to explore other investigative threads, former prosecutors said.

“If you’ve got a defendant and you want to supersede, to add additional charges or additional defendants, you can use the grand jury,” said Joan Meyer, a former senior Justice Department official. “You can’t use it to shore up your case after it’s charged.”

The Trump Indictments Won’t End Special Counsel’s Investigations

The federal indictments against Donald Trump this summer marked watershed moments, but the two parallel investigations by Justice Department Special Counsel Jack Smith aren’t over.

www.bloomberg.com

Jack Smith probably did not like the voting results from his original jury (the votes are often unanimous, but only 12 of 16 to 23 votes are required to return an indictment). So, he decided to shop around for more persuadable Lefties, and he should have to answer to that. Justice is supposed to be blind to politics.

 

[skews13]

Smith has no right to use a DC Grand Jury and a DC judge to get indictments for crimes that allegedly took place in Florida after Trum had left office and moved to Mar A Lago. That Florida judge asked a question that needed to be asked and Jack Smith doesn't have a good answer. That's a clear case of prosecutorial misconduct and the DOJ should pay the price for Smith's deliberate abuses of power!

The grand jury returning thise indictment ctments are in New Jersey lamebrain. Another jurisdiction. Documents were also found at the orange stains Bedminster house. Judge twat in Florida has no say so about anything regarding that indictment.

But being the unqualified hack that she is. Smith will be sure to give her a lesson in the law during the hearing, and what a superseding indictment is.

 

[Oldestyle]

The grand jury returning thise indictment ctments are in New Jersey lamebrain. Another jurisdiction. Documents were also found at the orange stains Bedminster house. Judge twat in Florida has no say so about anything regarding that indictment.

But being the unqualified hack that she is. Smith will be sure to give her a lesson in the law during the hearing, and what a superseding indictment is.

You can't have a Grand Jury in New York determine whether a trial should take place in Florida, Skews. That's not the way it works.

 

[Care4all]

He has also given thousands of dollars to the Democrat Party.

No GOP donations.

He's donated ZERO to the Democratic Party.

WHY DO YOU LIE and pass along lies?

 

[Nostra]

She's a piece of shit Trump supporter who's trying to delay the case for that fuck who appointed her, you moron.

She's already shown to be one of his asseaters.

Seek help soon.

 

[Oldestyle]

The grand jury returning thise indictment ctments are in New Jersey lamebrain. Another jurisdiction. Documents were also found at the orange stains Bedminster house. Judge twat in Florida has no say so about anything regarding that indictment.

But being the unqualified hack that she is. Smith will be sure to give her a lesson in the law during the hearing, and what a superseding indictment is.

Smith is about to GET a lesson on the law!

 

[Nostra]

Hey dimwit. It’s called a superseding indictment. Jack Smith doesn’t have to explain Jack Shit to that partisan hack, federalist society know nothing judge.

And that stupid twat just laid the groundwork for her recusal. Smith is playing her like the rookie she is.

Really? Hack Smith can just ignore this judge and her rulings?

You really think that is a good strategy, Stupid?

 

[Nostra]

He's donated ZERO to the Democratic Party.

WHY DO YOU LIE and pass along lies?

Link?

 

[Care4all]

You can't have a Grand Jury in New York determine whether a trial should take place in Florida, Skews. That's not the way it works.

Yes, you can. The indictment takes place in the place it will be tried and where most crimes took place, but several grand juries in different locations of where illegal activity took place is common....is my understanding.

The obstruction charges took place in DC, the documents in Mara Lago, the alleged espionage act breaking, in New Jersey.... all under the umbrella of this case.

Judge Cannon Comes Out Swinging in Trump’s Favor—Again

In a Monday ruling, Cannon questioned the “legal propriety” of using an “out-of-district grand jury” in Trump’s classified documents case.

www.thedailybeast.com

Former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance wrote online that Cannon’s latest order “may tee up the issue of her fitness on this case.” Andrew Weissmann, a former Assistant U.S. Attorney, suggested the same—writing that Cannon’s order is “off base.”

“Judge Cannon clearly shows her ignorance (bias? both?); the obstruction crimes that were investigated are charges that could have been brought in [Florida] or in DC and thus could be investigated in either district,” he wrote on Twitter. “And there was conduct that is alleged to have occurred outside [Florida].”

 

[Clipper]

Really? Hack Smith can just ignore this judge and her rulings?

You really think that is a good strategy, Stupid?

She's an idiot who revealed that a grand jury in D.C. is still investigating that retard Trump. Grand jury proceedings are to remain secret, Beavis.

That nitwit shouldn't be allowed anywhere near this case because she's another one of Trump's "best people", in search of a brain.

You & her related?

 

[Care4all]

She's an idiot who revealed that a grand jury in D.C. is still investigating that retard Trump. Grand jury proceedings are to remain secret, Beavis.

That nitwit shouldn't be allowed anywhere near this case because she's another one of Trump's "best people", in search of a brain.

You & her related?

She really is very inexperienced, and not up for this complicated case.

Judge Cannon Comes Out Swinging in Trump’s Favor—Again

In a Monday ruling, Cannon questioned the “legal propriety” of using an “out-of-district grand jury” in Trump’s classified documents case.

www.thedailybeast.com

Questions surrounding Cannon’s fitness have swirled since she was assigned to handle a lawsuit Trump filed last year to challenge the seizure of documents at Mar-a-Lago. She went out of her way to slow down the FBI’s investigation by issuing bizarre rulings in Trump’s favor, including the appointment of a “special master” to review the seized files. That ruling was later tossed out by an appeals court.

A Trump appointee with little experience on the bench, Cannon was then randomly assigned to preside over the criminal case when Trump was indicted in June.

Meanwhile, a string of errors she’s made in her short time as a judge has come to light. Her most recent hiccup came in June, when she closed jury selection in a child pornography case—denying the defendant’s family and others a seat in the courtroom to watch jury selection. The misstep, an apparent violation of the constitutional right to a public trial, nearly invalidated the proceedings entirely.

She also neglected to swear in a prospective jury pool—a mandatory procedure.

Cannon, 42, was appointed by Trump in the waning days of his presidency in 2020. She’d been a federal prosecutor for seven years, but has only been a part of eight criminal trials that resulted in jury verdicts—four as a prosecutor and four as a judge. She’s spent a total of just 14 days in trial as a federal judge, The New York Times reported.

 

[Care4all]

Link?

You or Rhody needs to provide the link to your FALSE claims. First, he's a registered independent. Not a registered Democrat or Republican, and has never donated to any campaign, ever. He's been a career public servant most of his life, not a partisan political appointee.

His wife, not him, donated $2000 in total, to Joe Biden in the 2020 election cycle. I'd hardly call his wife's donations anything stellar.

The point is Rhody is passing along a lie about Jack Smith.

Here's a link.

Who is Special Counsel Jack Smith in the Trump documents case?

Jack Smith, the U.S. special counsel who on Thursday is summoning Donald Trump to court to face a second federal criminal indictment, has a reputation for winning tough cases against war criminals, mobsters and crooked cops.

www.reuters.com

 

[Rye Catcher]

So what? I mixed the name up. That means you know Smith fucked up and continues to do so. Anything else?

You owe Jack Smith an apology. Write him one, and admit there are others who made the claim in my post.

 

[Oldestyle]

Yes, you can. The indictment takes place in the place it will be tried and where most crimes took place, but several grand juries in different locations of where illegal activity took place is common....is my understanding.

The obstruction charges took place in DC, the documents in Mara Lago, the alleged espionage act breaking, in New Jersey.... all under the umbrella of this case.

Judge Cannon Comes Out Swinging in Trump’s Favor—Again

In a Monday ruling, Cannon questioned the “legal propriety” of using an “out-of-district grand jury” in Trump’s classified documents case.

www.thedailybeast.com

Former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance wrote online that Cannon’s latest order “may tee up the issue of her fitness on this case.” Andrew Weissmann, a former Assistant U.S. Attorney, suggested the same—writing that Cannon’s order is “off base.”

“Judge Cannon clearly shows her ignorance (bias? both?); the obstruction crimes that were investigated are charges that could have been brought in [Florida] or in DC and thus could be investigated in either district,” he wrote on Twitter. “And there was conduct that is alleged to have occurred outside [Florida].”

Oh, bullshit! It's obvious what Smith is doing. He's going after someone for crimes that allegedly took place in Florida but he knows the judge there won't allow him to discard things like attorney-client privilege or executive privilege like the judge in Washington DC allowed him to do so he uses a grand jury there instead of Florida. The judge in Florida is 100% correct in challenging him for what he's done. Smith is both jury shopping and judge shopping.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Bob Mcdonnell, an it was qui-pro-quo corruption.

You have the DUMBEST avatar, sucker.

 

[Nostra]

She's an idiot who revealed that a grand jury in D.C. is still investigating that retard Trump. Grand jury proceedings are to remain secret, Beavis.

That nitwit shouldn't be allowed anywhere near this case because she's another one of Trump's "best people", in search of a brain.

You & her related?

What a moron you are.

How is asking why he is using a DC grand jury “revealing” their proceedings?

This should be good.

 

[Nostra]

She's an idiot who revealed that a grand jury in D.C. is still investigating that retard Trump. Grand jury proceedings are to remain secret, Beavis.

That nitwit shouldn't be allowed anywhere near this case because she's another one of Trump's "best people", in search of a brain.

You & her related?

Your leftwing source didn’t back up your claims, Simp.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Really, Debbie? Unless I'm mistaken the following would apply?
"1. The Constitution of the United States, Article III. Section 2, Paragraph 3, provides:

The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed."

So why is Smith having a Grand Jury in Washington DC indict a citizen for crimes that were alleged to have taken place in Florida??

You reference the passage concerning trials. The grand jury is not a trial

 

[BackAgain]

She's a piece of shit Trump supporter who's trying to delay the case for that fuck who appointed her, you moron.

She's already shown to be one of his asseaters.

Fuckwit ^ says what?