FDR Admiration Society

[Unkotare]

So why do America's most noted historians keep voting for FDR as one of America's top three presidents? Do you not believe the historians or you simply write your own history-as many conservatives on these boards do?

Those lists are no more than popularity contests driven by individual political ideology.

FDR advanced socialism in America. At that time most Americans didn't have the faintest idea what socialism was. His programs did nothing to drag America out of the Depression. The war did that.

He was a "great wartime president" because he let the generals conduct the war.

So it was the war that caused the immense spending that brought us out of the Great Depression, So Keynes was right and FDR should have followed Keyne's advice. Of course the Republican plan for the Great Depression was to balance the budget.

"FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate"
FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate




NEXT!!!!!

More faulty revisionist history

The Depression ended in 1939, ending it seven years earlier would have ended it in 1932, BEFORE FDR took over in March 1933

All the anti-FDR crew has is revisionist crap.

Presenting facts YOU are afraid to address is not revision.

 

[Camp]

Those lists are no more than popularity contests driven by individual political ideology.

FDR advanced socialism in America. At that time most Americans didn't have the faintest idea what socialism was. His programs did nothing to drag America out of the Depression. The war did that.

He was a "great wartime president" because he let the generals conduct the war.

So it was the war that caused the immense spending that brought us out of the Great Depression, So Keynes was right and FDR should have followed Keyne's advice. Of course the Republican plan for the Great Depression was to balance the budget.

"FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate"
FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate




NEXT!!!!!

More faulty revisionist history

The Depression ended in 1939, ending it seven years earlier would have ended it in 1932, BEFORE FDR took over in March 1933[/QUOE]
All the anti-FDR crew has is revisionist crap.

Presenting facts YOU are afraid to address is not revision.

You are just so pissed off about FDR and his Japanese internment program you will hate him forever and nothing will ever change your grudge.

 

[Camp]

Japanese bombed America, captured more in the Philippines, tortured and murdered thousands, became animals in China, etc. FDR fucked them up and wreaked vengeance without mercy. He took no chance with Japanese living on the west coast.

 

[rightwinger]

OP likes to use a silly example of unemployed people standing in a line stretching across America. Problem is her unemployed workers were busy building bridges, highways, Navy Port, Army Airforce airports and facilities, schools, post offices, highways, dams, etc., etc. would have had to take the day off from work on their "RELIEF", "WELFARE" jobs.

PC isn’t concerned with the welfare of struggling Americans, she only cares about the banks

 

[rightwinger]

FDR gave support to the birth of the early military-industrial complex during the mid and late 30's by financing the development of virtually all the modern weapons used to defeat Germany and Japan. Importance of developing modern weapons was something he learned as an assistant Sec. of rhe Navy in WWI. He guided the development of everything from the M1 Garrand to the B-17 and modern aircraft carriers. All the fighter aircraft that took out Japan and Germanies airforces were developed under the guidance of FDR.

This is one of your easiest lies to deflate.

"...a historian’s July 22, 2010, article on President Franklin Roosevelt and Great Britain in WW II. David Woolner wrote that in June 1939, which was three months before England declared war on Germany, "the roughly 180,000-man U.S. Army ranked 19th in the world--smaller than Portugal’s!"
U.S. army was smaller than the army for Portugal before World War II



Because Roosevelt wanted nothing more than to swim with the sharks....to be one with the other dictators, not fight them.



It was a terrible decision for Roosevelt to have to choose between Stalin and Hitler.


" Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."

Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48




It wasn't until 1940 that FDR recognized the need for the military.


WWII was the only thing that prevented FDR from becoming King or Czar!!!!

He suddenly needed capitalism!


1. Careful students of the Roosevelt presidency knew that war must be near because FDR had decided to change the tone of the political debate in Washington. For almost eight years, Wall Street bankers and corporate leaders had been his favorite scapegoats for explaining why the Great Depression was persisting. The premise of his New Deal, after all was that businessmen had failed and that government should regulate, plan and direct much of the American economy to break the hold of the Great Depression.”

2. On May 16, 1940, Roosevelt had addressed Congress and asked for more than a billion dollars for defense, with a commitment for fifty thousand military aircraft. He knew, also, that he needed the good will of business to win the war: no longer would he call them “privileged princes…thirsting for power.”


3. On May 26, 1940 his Fireside Chat signaled a new relationship with business: he would insure their profits, and assuage their fears that he would nationalize their factories.
a. “…we are calling upon the resources, the efficiency and the ingenuity of the American manufacturers of war material of all kinds -- airplanes and tanks and guns and ships, and all the hundreds of products that go into this material. The Government of the United States itself manufactures few of the implements of war. Private industry will continue to be the source of most of this material, and private industry will have to be speeded up to produce it at the rate and efficiency called for by the needs of the times…. Private industry will have the responsibility of providing the best, speediest and most efficient mass production of which it is capable.” On National Defense - May 26, 1940

You have deflected away from the point and focus of my post. FDR's genius during this period was that knowing he could not get support for building military forces, he instead used his skills learned as an Assistant Sec. of the Navy during WWI, along with New Deal funds, to develop modern weapons that in time, would be instrumental to win WWII. When war broke out with the bombing of Pearl Harbor, American industrial might was ready to begin production of mass quantities of these weapons. Three of the worlds most modern aircraft carriers, Essex Class, were already in the production, one, already being build since 1940. A new combat rifle, the high powered semi-automatic M-1 Garrand as was the M-1 Carbine, was already in production. B-17's and B-24's were tested and flying. Fighter planes, the best ever developed were ready to be mass produced.

Everything I post is linked, documented, and sourced.....while you have become our best source of greenhouse gases.

Really, you pretend to be some kind of educated intellectual but need cartoons to respond to criticism.

Everything I post is linked, documented, and sourced.....while you have become our best source of greenhouse gases.

Everything you post is cut and paste that is deceptively edited, misrepresented or blatant conservative propaganda

 

[Camp]

OP likes to use a silly example of unemployed people standing in a line stretching across America. Problem is her unemployed workers were busy building bridges, highways, Navy Port, Army Airforce airports and facilities, schools, post offices, highways, dams, etc., etc. would have had to take the day off from work on their "RELIEF", "WELFARE" jobs.

PC isn’t concerned with the welfare of struggling Americans, she only cares about the banks

FDR saved the banks.

 

[Camp]

OP likes to use a silly example of unemployed people standing in a line stretching across America. Problem is her unemployed workers were busy building bridges, highways, Navy Port, Army Airforce airports and facilities, schools, post offices, highways, dams, etc., etc. would have had to take the day off from work on their "RELIEF", "WELFARE" jobs.

PC isn’t concerned with the welfare of struggling Americans, she only cares about the banks

FDR transitioned banks from bankruptcy to profits.

 

[danielpalos]

OP likes to use a silly example of unemployed people standing in a line stretching across America. Problem is her unemployed workers were busy building bridges, highways, Navy Port, Army Airforce airports and facilities, schools, post offices, highways, dams, etc., etc. would have had to take the day off from work on their "RELIEF", "WELFARE" jobs.

PC isn’t concerned with the welfare of struggling Americans, she only cares about the banks

she would be happier with full body massage with happy ending.

 

[Camp]

On June 5, 1933, FDR took America off the Gold Standard and began the resolving of the Great Depression and a building of American infrastructure as never before and never matched since. His plan was pure genius as he filled Fort Knox with American gold to be used as collateral for guaranteed loans for state governments to build infrastructure projects and paid back later with state taxes. Every state gladly paid back the loans as their incomes surged from their investments in infrastructure. The effort also made America the richest country in rhe world.

 

[Camp]

You can not build a factory without being able to provide the factory with electricity. FDR built the dams that would provide the electricity Was how rhe phrase "Build it and they will come" was coined but included highways, bridges and such.

 

[Unkotare]

Japanese bombed America, captured more in the Philippines, tortured and murdered thousands, became animals in China, etc. FDR fucked them up and wreaked vengeance without mercy. He took no chance with Japanese living on the west coast.

Illogical and anti-American

 

[Camp]

Japanese bombed America, captured more in the Philippines, tortured and murdered thousands, became animals in China, etc. FDR fucked them up and wreaked vengeance without mercy. He took no chance with Japanese living on the west coast.

Illogical and anti-American

My family fought Jap's in WWII. One in particular on rhe USS Enterprise. He lost many friends and saw a lot of horrors. Another was a WAC. Guess she saw her share of horror also.
So, what did your family do during WWII?

 

[Unkotare]

Japanese bombed America, captured more in the Philippines, tortured and murdered thousands, became animals in China, etc. FDR fucked them up and wreaked vengeance without mercy. He took no chance with Japanese living on the west coast.

Illogical and anti-American

My family fought Jap's in WWII. ...

Who asked?

 

[Camp]

Japanese bombed America, captured more in the Philippines, tortured and murdered thousands, became animals in China, etc. FDR fucked them up and wreaked vengeance without mercy. He took no chance with Japanese living on the west coast.

Illogical and anti-American

My family fought Jap's in WWII. ...

Who asked?

I was responding to your anti-American response and comment.

 

[Unkotare]

Japanese bombed America, captured more in the Philippines, tortured and murdered thousands, became animals in China, etc. FDR fucked them up and wreaked vengeance without mercy. He took no chance with Japanese living on the west coast.

Illogical and anti-American

My family fought Jap's in WWII. ...

Who asked?

I was responding to your anti-American response and comment.

Mine was a highly accurate comment.

 

[rightwinger]

OP likes to use a silly example of unemployed people standing in a line stretching across America. Problem is her unemployed workers were busy building bridges, highways, Navy Port, Army Airforce airports and facilities, schools, post offices, highways, dams, etc., etc. would have had to take the day off from work on their "RELIEF", "WELFARE" jobs.

PC isn’t concerned with the welfare of struggling Americans, she only cares about the banks

FDR saved the banks.

Saved the country

 

[Camp]

Japanese bombed America, captured more in the Philippines, tortured and murdered thousands, became animals in China, etc. FDR fucked them up and wreaked vengeance without mercy. He took no chance with Japanese living on the west coast.

Illogical and anti-American

My family fought Jap's in WWII. ...

Who asked?

I was responding to your anti-American response and comment.

Mine was a highly accurate comment.

Subjective opinion.

 

[Unkotare]

Illogical and anti-American

My family fought Jap's in WWII. ...

Who asked?

I was responding to your anti-American response and comment.

Mine was a highly accurate comment.

Subjective opinion.

Not at all.