FDR Admiration Society

[Camp]

Illogical, unlawful, un-American. Your idol was the worst scumbag to ever sully the office, and your clumsy attempts at playing the apologist are shameful.

So why do America's most noted historians keep voting for FDR as one of America's top three presidents? Do you not believe the historians or you simply write your own history-as many conservatives on these boards do?

Those lists are no more than popularity contests driven by individual political ideology.

FDR advanced socialism in America. At that time most Americans didn't have the faintest idea what socialism was. His programs did nothing to drag America out of the Depression. The war did that.

He was a "great wartime president" because he let the generals conduct the war.

So it was the war that caused the immense spending that brought us out of the Great Depression, So Keynes was right and FDR should have followed Keyne's advice. Of course the Republican plan for the Great Depression was to balance the budget.

"FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate"
FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate




NEXT!!!!!

More faulty revisionist history

The Depression ended in 1939, ending it seven years earlier would have ended it in 1932, BEFORE FDR took over in March 1933

All the anti-FDR crew has is revisionist crap.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Illogical, unlawful, un-American. Your idol was the worst scumbag to ever sully the office, and your clumsy attempts at playing the apologist are shameful.

So why do America's most noted historians keep voting for FDR as one of America's top three presidents? Do you not believe the historians or you simply write your own history-as many conservatives on these boards do?

Those lists are no more than popularity contests driven by individual political ideology.

FDR advanced socialism in America. At that time most Americans didn't have the faintest idea what socialism was. His programs did nothing to drag America out of the Depression. The war did that.

He was a "great wartime president" because he let the generals conduct the war.

So it was the war that caused the immense spending that brought us out of the Great Depression, So Keynes was right and FDR should have followed Keyne's advice. Of course the Republican plan for the Great Depression was to balance the budget.

"FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate"
FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate




NEXT!!!!!

How many UCLA economists agreed with the two UCLA authors, and what was the UCLA plan to fight depressions? Why didn't FDR at least use parts of the UCLA plan to fight the depression?

FDR's responsibility for the 'Great Depression:
Don't take my word for the ineptitude, here is Roosevelt BFF, secretary of the treasury, expert on finance and compendium of statistics on the economy of the 1930's:

" “We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong…somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises…I sayafter eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started…And an enormous debt to boot!”
Morgenthau Diary, May 9, 1939, Franklin Roosevelt Presidential Library

a. In 1935, the Brookings Institution (left-leaning) delivered a 900-page report on the New Deal and the National Recovery Administration, concluding that “ on the whole it retarded recovery.” article - AEI

 

[Unkotare]

The Great Depression Was Ended by the End of World War II, Not the Start of It

How ridiculous

There was near full employment in WWII.
There was a recession AFTER WWII

You can’t be this stupid.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Those lists are no more than popularity contests driven by individual political ideology.

FDR advanced socialism in America. At that time most Americans didn't have the faintest idea what socialism was. His programs did nothing to drag America out of the Depression. The war did that.

He was a "great wartime president" because he let the generals conduct the war.

So it was the war that caused the immense spending that brought us out of the Great Depression, So Keynes was right and FDR should have followed Keyne's advice. Of course the Republican plan for the Great Depression was to balance the budget.

"FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate"
FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate




NEXT!!!!!

Haha, that must be why FDR achieved the #1 GDP growth of any USA President.

A worldwide global Depression was in its fourth year when FDR became President. The first thing he did was save the US banks, which were closing and going bankrupt. He then began policies of putting people to work building American infrastructure. He placed big business on the back burner. They still haven't gotten over it and whine about the depression lasting longer for them than it did for rhe common working people.

It lasted longer for everyone, which hurt the poor hardest.

Here is an interesting visual: imagine a triple line of the unemployed, three across, consisting of those unemployed under Hoover, in 1931. The line would have gone from Los Angeles, across the country, to the border of Maine.

What effect did Roosevelt have on the line?

Well, eight years later, in 1939, the length of the line would have gone further, from the Maine border, south to Boston, then on to New York City, then to Philadelphia, on to Washington, D.C.- and finally, into Virginia.
Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal"


Think Folsom was wrong?

Check it out at the US Bureau of the Census, 'Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970, I-126 and Unemployment Statistics during the Great Depression

 

[PoliticalChic]

So why do America's most noted historians keep voting for FDR as one of America's top three presidents? Do you not believe the historians or you simply write your own history-as many conservatives on these boards do?

Those lists are no more than popularity contests driven by individual political ideology.

FDR advanced socialism in America. At that time most Americans didn't have the faintest idea what socialism was. His programs did nothing to drag America out of the Depression. The war did that.

He was a "great wartime president" because he let the generals conduct the war.

So it was the war that caused the immense spending that brought us out of the Great Depression, So Keynes was right and FDR should have followed Keyne's advice. Of course the Republican plan for the Great Depression was to balance the budget.

"FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate"
FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate



Here is an interesting visual: imagine a triple line of the unemployed, three across, consisting of those unemployed under Hoover, in 1931. The line would have gone from Los Angeles, across the country, to the border of Maine.

What effect did Roosevelt have on the line?

Well, eight years later, in 1939, the length of the line would have gone further, from the Maine border, south to Boston, then on to New York City, then to Philadelphia, on to Washington, D.C.- and finally, into Virginia.
Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal"


Think Folsom was wrong?

Check it out at the US Bureau of the Census, 'Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970, I-126 and Unemployment Statistics during the Great Depression


NEXT!!!!!

More faulty revisionist history

The Depression ended in 1939, ending it seven years earlier would have ended it in 1932, BEFORE FDR took over in March 1933

All the anti-FDR crew has is revisionist crap.

Here is an interesting visual: imagine a triple line of the unemployed, three across, consisting of those unemployed under Hoover, in 1931. The line would have gone from Los Angeles, across the country, to the border of Maine.

What effect did Roosevelt have on the line?

Well, eight years later, in 1939, the length of the line would have gone further, from the Maine border, south to Boston, then on to New York City, then to Philadelphia, on to Washington, D.C.- and finally, into Virginia.
Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal"


Think Folsom was wrong?

Check it out at the US Bureau of the Census, 'Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970, I-126 and Unemployment Statistics during the Great Depression


If you can't refute this.....you've proven that all of my posts are 100% correct, accurate, and true.


Waiting.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Great Depression Was Ended by the End of World War II, Not the Start of It

How ridiculous

There was near full employment in WWII.
There was a recession AFTER WWII

You can’t be this stupid.

They seem to treat that as a challenge.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So why do America's most noted historians keep voting for FDR as one of America's top three presidents? Do you not believe the historians or you simply write your own history-as many conservatives on these boards do?

Those lists are no more than popularity contests driven by individual political ideology.

FDR advanced socialism in America. At that time most Americans didn't have the faintest idea what socialism was. His programs did nothing to drag America out of the Depression. The war did that.

He was a "great wartime president" because he let the generals conduct the war.

So it was the war that caused the immense spending that brought us out of the Great Depression, So Keynes was right and FDR should have followed Keyne's advice. Of course the Republican plan for the Great Depression was to balance the budget.

"FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate"
FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate




NEXT!!!!!

How many UCLA economists agreed with the two UCLA authors, and what was the UCLA plan to fight depressions? Why didn't FDR at least use parts of the UCLA plan to fight the depression?

Desperation has made you irrational.

Perhaps born that way......

 

[Camp]

Debunked immediately as nonsense. Two partisan hacks and goofballs made a ridiculous claim. They were laughed at.

Proof of the debunking?

They used a faulty system of calculating unemployment which ignored workers employed building American infrastructure and classified them as "welfare recipients" and designated their paychecks as government charity.

That’s not faulty.

They counted men who builtr thousands of schools, armories, post offices, bridges, airports, Naval Ports, highways, schools, hospitals, sewers systems, parks, Electric generating Dams, etc.....

On government make-work programs designed to occupy the time of the unemployed, not production spurred by market forces. They were receiving assistance from the government rather than working jobs created by demand. There is a reason why make-work programs never work in the long term. In the end, they ARE a form of welfare and not sustainable.

Might as well have been Pharaoh building a new pyramid.

Your only defense is that employed workers were not really employed because of how they got paid, not whether they were actually working on important jobs and building infrastructure, much of which is still standing and serving.

 

[PoliticalChic]

FDR gave support to the birth of the early military-industrial complex during the mid and late 30's by financing the development of virtually all the modern weapons used to defeat Germany and Japan. Importance of developing modern weapons was something he learned as an assistant Sec. of rhe Navy in WWI. He guided the development of everything from the M1 Garrand to the B-17 and modern aircraft carriers. All the fighter aircraft that took out Japan and Germanies airforces were developed under the guidance of FDR.

This is one of your easiest lies to deflate.

"...a historian’s July 22, 2010, article on President Franklin Roosevelt and Great Britain in WW II. David Woolner wrote that in June 1939, which was three months before England declared war on Germany, "the roughly 180,000-man U.S. Army ranked 19th in the world--smaller than Portugal’s!"
U.S. army was smaller than the army for Portugal before World War II



Because Roosevelt wanted nothing more than to swim with the sharks....to be one with the other dictators, not fight them.



It was a terrible decision for Roosevelt to have to choose between Stalin and Hitler.


" Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."

Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48




It wasn't until 1940 that FDR recognized the need for the military.


WWII was the only thing that prevented FDR from becoming King or Czar!!!!

He suddenly needed capitalism!


1. Careful students of the Roosevelt presidency knew that war must be near because FDR had decided to change the tone of the political debate in Washington. For almost eight years, Wall Street bankers and corporate leaders had been his favorite scapegoats for explaining why the Great Depression was persisting. The premise of his New Deal, after all was that businessmen had failed and that government should regulate, plan and direct much of the American economy to break the hold of the Great Depression.”

2. On May 16, 1940, Roosevelt had addressed Congress and asked for more than a billion dollars for defense, with a commitment for fifty thousand military aircraft. He knew, also, that he needed the good will of business to win the war: no longer would he call them “privileged princes…thirsting for power.”


3. On May 26, 1940 his Fireside Chat signaled a new relationship with business: he would insure their profits, and assuage their fears that he would nationalize their factories.
a. “…we are calling upon the resources, the efficiency and the ingenuity of the American manufacturers of war material of all kinds -- airplanes and tanks and guns and ships, and all the hundreds of products that go into this material. The Government of the United States itself manufactures few of the implements of war. Private industry will continue to be the source of most of this material, and private industry will have to be speeded up to produce it at the rate and efficiency called for by the needs of the times…. Private industry will have the responsibility of providing the best, speediest and most efficient mass production of which it is capable.” On National Defense - May 26, 1940

 

[danielpalos]

So why do America's most noted historians keep voting for FDR as one of America's top three presidents? Do you not believe the historians or you simply write your own history-as many conservatives on these boards do?

Those lists are no more than popularity contests driven by individual political ideology.

FDR advanced socialism in America. At that time most Americans didn't have the faintest idea what socialism was. His programs did nothing to drag America out of the Depression. The war did that.

He was a "great wartime president" because he let the generals conduct the war.

So it was the war that caused the immense spending that brought us out of the Great Depression, So Keynes was right and FDR should have followed Keyne's advice. Of course the Republican plan for the Great Depression was to balance the budget.

"FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate"
FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate




NEXT!!!!!

How many UCLA economists agreed with the two UCLA authors, and what was the UCLA plan to fight depressions? Why didn't FDR at least use parts of the UCLA plan to fight the depression?

FDR's responsibility for the 'Great Depression:
Don't take my word for the ineptitude, here is Roosevelt BFF, secretary of the treasury, expert on finance and compendium of statistics on the economy of the 1930's:

" “We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong…somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises…I sayafter eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started…And an enormous debt to boot!”
Morgenthau Diary, May 9, 1939, Franklin Roosevelt Presidential Library

a. In 1935, the Brookings Institution (left-leaning) delivered a 900-page report on the New Deal and the National Recovery Administration, concluding that “ on the whole it retarded recovery.” article - AEI

Hoover accomplished less.

 

[danielpalos]

The Great Depression Was Ended by the End of World War II, Not the Start of It

How ridiculous

There was near full employment in WWII.
There was a recession AFTER WWII

You can’t be this stupid.

Statistics showed a rise in GDP during the war. But that just reflects misdefined statistical analysis. The military guns, tanks, ships, and planes produced and counted as showing rising GDP did not reflect improved standards of living for working people, or anyone else. Yes, they did win the war, and that victory was a social good, just as removing Saddam Hussein from power was a social good. But these were not economic goods and services, and should not be counted as such.

Improved standards for working people would have been obtained through full employment.

 

[Camp]

FDR gave support to the birth of the early military-industrial complex during the mid and late 30's by financing the development of virtually all the modern weapons used to defeat Germany and Japan. Importance of developing modern weapons was something he learned as an assistant Sec. of rhe Navy in WWI. He guided the development of everything from the M1 Garrand to the B-17 and modern aircraft carriers. All the fighter aircraft that took out Japan and Germanies airforces were developed under the guidance of FDR.

This is one of your easiest lies to deflate.

"...a historian’s July 22, 2010, article on President Franklin Roosevelt and Great Britain in WW II. David Woolner wrote that in June 1939, which was three months before England declared war on Germany, "the roughly 180,000-man U.S. Army ranked 19th in the world--smaller than Portugal’s!"
U.S. army was smaller than the army for Portugal before World War II



Because Roosevelt wanted nothing more than to swim with the sharks....to be one with the other dictators, not fight them.



It was a terrible decision for Roosevelt to have to choose between Stalin and Hitler.


" Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."

Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48




It wasn't until 1940 that FDR recognized the need for the military.


WWII was the only thing that prevented FDR from becoming King or Czar!!!!

He suddenly needed capitalism!


1. Careful students of the Roosevelt presidency knew that war must be near because FDR had decided to change the tone of the political debate in Washington. For almost eight years, Wall Street bankers and corporate leaders had been his favorite scapegoats for explaining why the Great Depression was persisting. The premise of his New Deal, after all was that businessmen had failed and that government should regulate, plan and direct much of the American economy to break the hold of the Great Depression.”

2. On May 16, 1940, Roosevelt had addressed Congress and asked for more than a billion dollars for defense, with a commitment for fifty thousand military aircraft. He knew, also, that he needed the good will of business to win the war: no longer would he call them “privileged princes…thirsting for power.”


3. On May 26, 1940 his Fireside Chat signaled a new relationship with business: he would insure their profits, and assuage their fears that he would nationalize their factories.
a. “…we are calling upon the resources, the efficiency and the ingenuity of the American manufacturers of war material of all kinds -- airplanes and tanks and guns and ships, and all the hundreds of products that go into this material. The Government of the United States itself manufactures few of the implements of war. Private industry will continue to be the source of most of this material, and private industry will have to be speeded up to produce it at the rate and efficiency called for by the needs of the times…. Private industry will have the responsibility of providing the best, speediest and most efficient mass production of which it is capable.” On National Defense - May 26, 1940

You have deflected away from the point and focus of my post. FDR's genius during this period was that knowing he could not get support for building military forces, he instead used his skills learned as an Assistant Sec. of the Navy during WWI, along with New Deal funds, to develop modern weapons that in time, would be instrumental to win WWII. When war broke out with the bombing of Pearl Harbor, American industrial might was ready to begin production of mass quantities of these weapons. Three of the worlds most modern aircraft carriers, Essex Class, were already in the production, one, already being build since 1940. A new combat rifle, the high powered semi-automatic M-1 Garrand as was the M-1 Carbine, was already in production. B-17's and B-24's were tested and flying. Fighter planes, the best ever developed were ready to be mass produced.

 

[rightwinger]

So why do America's most noted historians keep voting for FDR as one of America's top three presidents? Do you not believe the historians or you simply write your own history-as many conservatives on these boards do?

Those lists are no more than popularity contests driven by individual political ideology.

FDR advanced socialism in America. At that time most Americans didn't have the faintest idea what socialism was. His programs did nothing to drag America out of the Depression. The war did that.

He was a "great wartime president" because he let the generals conduct the war.

So it was the war that caused the immense spending that brought us out of the Great Depression, So Keynes was right and FDR should have followed Keyne's advice. Of course the Republican plan for the Great Depression was to balance the budget.

"FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate"
FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate




NEXT!!!!!

How many UCLA economists agreed with the two UCLA authors, and what was the UCLA plan to fight depressions? Why didn't FDR at least use parts of the UCLA plan to fight the depression?

1. Republican Harding faced as serious a recession as Roosevelt did, and solved it in a year and a half.

2. Roosevelt took a recession and expanded it into a decade long Depression.


3. For comparison:

a. While "The Depression" is probably the only economic downturn ever studied in government schools, few ever speak of any depressions or recessions prior to the "Great Depression."

Know how many there were?

Over thirty. And the average length was a year or so.

List of recessions in the United States - List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia


b. "The Great Depression (1929-39) was the deepest and longest-lasting economic downturn in the history of the Western industrialized world. In the United States, ..."The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

Know why? 'Cause Roosevelt wanted it to be.

OK....so maybe Franklin Roosevelt was actually trying to end the depression.....never mind that he made it last longer, by a multiple of five, from most previous depressions/recessions.....

It sure was a good excuse for overturning the Constitution.



4. Mull this over: FDR was good friends with Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin.
His New Deal was copied from Mussolini's economic plans.
He wanted the same power that other dictators had.
And he knew how to get it: keep the recession going.


And he did.

Yet more revisionist nonsense

1. Republican Harding faced as serious a recession as Roosevelt did, and solved it in a year and a half.

Frau Braun (PC) has her own timeline in ignoring that the Great Depression was in effect THREE AND A HALF YEARS before FDR took office in March 1933

Longer than Hardings embarrassing Presidency

 

[Camp]

OP likes to use a silly example of unemployed people standing in a line stretching across America. Problem is her unemployed workers were busy building bridges, highways, Navy Port, Army Airforce airports and facilities, schools, post offices, highways, dams, etc., etc. would have had to take the day off from work on their "RELIEF", "WELFARE" jobs.

 

[PoliticalChic]

FDR gave support to the birth of the early military-industrial complex during the mid and late 30's by financing the development of virtually all the modern weapons used to defeat Germany and Japan. Importance of developing modern weapons was something he learned as an assistant Sec. of rhe Navy in WWI. He guided the development of everything from the M1 Garrand to the B-17 and modern aircraft carriers. All the fighter aircraft that took out Japan and Germanies airforces were developed under the guidance of FDR.

This is one of your easiest lies to deflate.

"...a historian’s July 22, 2010, article on President Franklin Roosevelt and Great Britain in WW II. David Woolner wrote that in June 1939, which was three months before England declared war on Germany, "the roughly 180,000-man U.S. Army ranked 19th in the world--smaller than Portugal’s!"
U.S. army was smaller than the army for Portugal before World War II



Because Roosevelt wanted nothing more than to swim with the sharks....to be one with the other dictators, not fight them.



It was a terrible decision for Roosevelt to have to choose between Stalin and Hitler.


" Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."

Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48




It wasn't until 1940 that FDR recognized the need for the military.


WWII was the only thing that prevented FDR from becoming King or Czar!!!!

He suddenly needed capitalism!


1. Careful students of the Roosevelt presidency knew that war must be near because FDR had decided to change the tone of the political debate in Washington. For almost eight years, Wall Street bankers and corporate leaders had been his favorite scapegoats for explaining why the Great Depression was persisting. The premise of his New Deal, after all was that businessmen had failed and that government should regulate, plan and direct much of the American economy to break the hold of the Great Depression.”

2. On May 16, 1940, Roosevelt had addressed Congress and asked for more than a billion dollars for defense, with a commitment for fifty thousand military aircraft. He knew, also, that he needed the good will of business to win the war: no longer would he call them “privileged princes…thirsting for power.”


3. On May 26, 1940 his Fireside Chat signaled a new relationship with business: he would insure their profits, and assuage their fears that he would nationalize their factories.
a. “…we are calling upon the resources, the efficiency and the ingenuity of the American manufacturers of war material of all kinds -- airplanes and tanks and guns and ships, and all the hundreds of products that go into this material. The Government of the United States itself manufactures few of the implements of war. Private industry will continue to be the source of most of this material, and private industry will have to be speeded up to produce it at the rate and efficiency called for by the needs of the times…. Private industry will have the responsibility of providing the best, speediest and most efficient mass production of which it is capable.” On National Defense - May 26, 1940

You have deflected away from the point and focus of my post. FDR's genius during this period was that knowing he could not get support for building military forces, he instead used his skills learned as an Assistant Sec. of the Navy during WWI, along with New Deal funds, to develop modern weapons that in time, would be instrumental to win WWII. When war broke out with the bombing of Pearl Harbor, American industrial might was ready to begin production of mass quantities of these weapons. Three of the worlds most modern aircraft carriers, Essex Class, were already in the production, one, already being build since 1940. A new combat rifle, the high powered semi-automatic M-1 Garrand as was the M-1 Carbine, was already in production. B-17's and B-24's were tested and flying. Fighter planes, the best ever developed were ready to be mass produced.

Everything I post is linked, documented, and sourced.....while you have become our best source of greenhouse gases.

 

[PoliticalChic]

OP likes to use a silly example of unemployed people standing in a line stretching across America. Problem is her unemployed workers were busy building bridges, highways, Navy Port, Army Airforce airports and facilities, schools, post offices, highways, dams, etc., etc. would have had to take the day off from work on their "RELIEF", "WELFARE" jobs.

Get on the line.

 

[Camp]

The libraries and internet are loaded and full of inaccurate and false links and books and sources. Your stuff would never be accepted for a college thesis. Mostly your stuff is subjective opinion or outright political hackery.
Explain Manly. I have asked you for years to explain him. Near as I have learned is it was just a pen name for a radical FDR libertarian hate group connected to the cabal that leaked American WWII military contingency plans to Hitler via the Chicago Tribune. Do you contest the analysis? Hitler used rhe leaked document in his Declaration of War on America.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The libraries and internet are loaded and full of inaccurate and false links and books and sources. Your stuff would never be accepted for a college thesis. Mostly your stuff is subjective opinion or outright political hackery.
Explain Manly. I have asked you for years to explain him. Near as I have learned is it was just a pen name for a radical FDR libertarian hate group connected to the cabal that leaked American WWII military contingency plans to Hitler via the Chicago Tribune. Do you contest the analysis? Hitler used rhe leaked document in his Declaration of War on America.

Everything I post is linked, documented, and sourced.....while you have become our best source of greenhouse gases.

 

[Camp]

FDR gave support to the birth of the early military-industrial complex during the mid and late 30's by financing the development of virtually all the modern weapons used to defeat Germany and Japan. Importance of developing modern weapons was something he learned as an assistant Sec. of rhe Navy in WWI. He guided the development of everything from the M1 Garrand to the B-17 and modern aircraft carriers. All the fighter aircraft that took out Japan and Germanies airforces were developed under the guidance of FDR.

This is one of your easiest lies to deflate.

"...a historian’s July 22, 2010, article on President Franklin Roosevelt and Great Britain in WW II. David Woolner wrote that in June 1939, which was three months before England declared war on Germany, "the roughly 180,000-man U.S. Army ranked 19th in the world--smaller than Portugal’s!"
U.S. army was smaller than the army for Portugal before World War II



Because Roosevelt wanted nothing more than to swim with the sharks....to be one with the other dictators, not fight them.



It was a terrible decision for Roosevelt to have to choose between Stalin and Hitler.


" Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."

Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48




It wasn't until 1940 that FDR recognized the need for the military.


WWII was the only thing that prevented FDR from becoming King or Czar!!!!

He suddenly needed capitalism!


1. Careful students of the Roosevelt presidency knew that war must be near because FDR had decided to change the tone of the political debate in Washington. For almost eight years, Wall Street bankers and corporate leaders had been his favorite scapegoats for explaining why the Great Depression was persisting. The premise of his New Deal, after all was that businessmen had failed and that government should regulate, plan and direct much of the American economy to break the hold of the Great Depression.”

2. On May 16, 1940, Roosevelt had addressed Congress and asked for more than a billion dollars for defense, with a commitment for fifty thousand military aircraft. He knew, also, that he needed the good will of business to win the war: no longer would he call them “privileged princes…thirsting for power.”


3. On May 26, 1940 his Fireside Chat signaled a new relationship with business: he would insure their profits, and assuage their fears that he would nationalize their factories.
a. “…we are calling upon the resources, the efficiency and the ingenuity of the American manufacturers of war material of all kinds -- airplanes and tanks and guns and ships, and all the hundreds of products that go into this material. The Government of the United States itself manufactures few of the implements of war. Private industry will continue to be the source of most of this material, and private industry will have to be speeded up to produce it at the rate and efficiency called for by the needs of the times…. Private industry will have the responsibility of providing the best, speediest and most efficient mass production of which it is capable.” On National Defense - May 26, 1940

You have deflected away from the point and focus of my post. FDR's genius during this period was that knowing he could not get support for building military forces, he instead used his skills learned as an Assistant Sec. of the Navy during WWI, along with New Deal funds, to develop modern weapons that in time, would be instrumental to win WWII. When war broke out with the bombing of Pearl Harbor, American industrial might was ready to begin production of mass quantities of these weapons. Three of the worlds most modern aircraft carriers, Essex Class, were already in the production, one, already being build since 1940. A new combat rifle, the high powered semi-automatic M-1 Garrand as was the M-1 Carbine, was already in production. B-17's and B-24's were tested and flying. Fighter planes, the best ever developed were ready to be mass produced.

Everything I post is linked, documented, and sourced.....while you have become our best source of greenhouse gases.

Really, you pretend to be some kind of educated intellectual but need cartoons to respond to criticism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

FDR gave support to the birth of the early military-industrial complex during the mid and late 30's by financing the development of virtually all the modern weapons used to defeat Germany and Japan. Importance of developing modern weapons was something he learned as an assistant Sec. of rhe Navy in WWI. He guided the development of everything from the M1 Garrand to the B-17 and modern aircraft carriers. All the fighter aircraft that took out Japan and Germanies airforces were developed under the guidance of FDR.

This is one of your easiest lies to deflate.

"...a historian’s July 22, 2010, article on President Franklin Roosevelt and Great Britain in WW II. David Woolner wrote that in June 1939, which was three months before England declared war on Germany, "the roughly 180,000-man U.S. Army ranked 19th in the world--smaller than Portugal’s!"
U.S. army was smaller than the army for Portugal before World War II



Because Roosevelt wanted nothing more than to swim with the sharks....to be one with the other dictators, not fight them.



It was a terrible decision for Roosevelt to have to choose between Stalin and Hitler.


" Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."

Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48




It wasn't until 1940 that FDR recognized the need for the military.


WWII was the only thing that prevented FDR from becoming King or Czar!!!!

He suddenly needed capitalism!


1. Careful students of the Roosevelt presidency knew that war must be near because FDR had decided to change the tone of the political debate in Washington. For almost eight years, Wall Street bankers and corporate leaders had been his favorite scapegoats for explaining why the Great Depression was persisting. The premise of his New Deal, after all was that businessmen had failed and that government should regulate, plan and direct much of the American economy to break the hold of the Great Depression.”

2. On May 16, 1940, Roosevelt had addressed Congress and asked for more than a billion dollars for defense, with a commitment for fifty thousand military aircraft. He knew, also, that he needed the good will of business to win the war: no longer would he call them “privileged princes…thirsting for power.”


3. On May 26, 1940 his Fireside Chat signaled a new relationship with business: he would insure their profits, and assuage their fears that he would nationalize their factories.
a. “…we are calling upon the resources, the efficiency and the ingenuity of the American manufacturers of war material of all kinds -- airplanes and tanks and guns and ships, and all the hundreds of products that go into this material. The Government of the United States itself manufactures few of the implements of war. Private industry will continue to be the source of most of this material, and private industry will have to be speeded up to produce it at the rate and efficiency called for by the needs of the times…. Private industry will have the responsibility of providing the best, speediest and most efficient mass production of which it is capable.” On National Defense - May 26, 1940

You have deflected away from the point and focus of my post. FDR's genius during this period was that knowing he could not get support for building military forces, he instead used his skills learned as an Assistant Sec. of the Navy during WWI, along with New Deal funds, to develop modern weapons that in time, would be instrumental to win WWII. When war broke out with the bombing of Pearl Harbor, American industrial might was ready to begin production of mass quantities of these weapons. Three of the worlds most modern aircraft carriers, Essex Class, were already in the production, one, already being build since 1940. A new combat rifle, the high powered semi-automatic M-1 Garrand as was the M-1 Carbine, was already in production. B-17's and B-24's were tested and flying. Fighter planes, the best ever developed were ready to be mass produced.

Everything I post is linked, documented, and sourced.....while you have become our best source of greenhouse gases.

Really, you pretend to be some kind of educated intellectual but need cartoons to respond to criticism.

Everything I post is linked, documented, and sourced.....while you have become our best source of greenhouse gases.